NationStates Jolt Archive


What are your political views?

Roach-Busters
03-12-2004, 23:07
I've noticed that many polls asking the same question leave out a lot of options, hence, the reason for this poll.
Gnostikos
03-12-2004, 23:07
Which appears to be missing...
Dresophila Prime
03-12-2004, 23:09
I believe I categorize under "oblivious, curious and just a tad bit sorrowful."
Liskeinland
04-12-2004, 00:19
Go Theocratic Democratic Socialists!

I'm sort of conservative (read: moralising: if you really must), but I also do not believe in huge corporations, and I believe in helping the poor and so forth.

What are the arguments for anarchy - given that without law, the weak (ie children? women (physically weaker)) would just die?
Gnostikos
04-12-2004, 00:20
I am really a liberal, but I chose anarchy because I believe that is the ideal, but impossible form of government.
Chodolo
04-12-2004, 00:22
I would say I'm a progressive liberal influenced by libertarianism.
LordaeronII
04-12-2004, 00:28
I put in fascist... because that's probably what most people would consider me...

However I'm not really a fascist, since fascism includes the necessity for a single, self appointed authoritarian ruler....

I believe in a meritocracy... therefore not really fascism.

However in terms of the stability and the goals fascism tries to achieve, I suppose I am closer to being a fascist than anything else.

I usually say conservative though, because most of the idiots around here think fascist = nazi, and know NOTHING about fascism.... and hence wouldn't understand.

Conservative would be the next closest thing I am to.
Liskeinland
04-12-2004, 00:33
I put in fascist... because that's probably what most people would consider me...

However I'm not really a fascist, since fascism includes the necessity for a single, self appointed authoritarian ruler....

I believe in a meritocracy... therefore not really fascism.

However in terms of the stability and the goals fascism tries to achieve, I suppose I am closer to being a fascist than anything else.

I usually say conservative though, because most of the idiots around here think fascist = nazi, and know NOTHING about fascism.... and hence wouldn't understand.

Conservative would be the next closest thing I am to.

I know someone just like you. He has set up a British Imperialist Party, and I am a member.
Gnostikos
04-12-2004, 00:36
However I'm not really a fascist, since fascism includes the necessity for a single, self appointed authoritarian ruler....
Well, that pretty much defines fascism. Though not the self-appointed part. It also must be unitary. Fascism is the extreme authoritarian ideology.

I believe in a meritocracy... therefore not really fascism.
Fascism does not exclude meritocractic ideals.

However in terms of the stability and the goals fascism tries to achieve, I suppose I am closer to being a fascist than anything else.
Fascism has proven to be the least stable of all forms of government that have been tried on a national scale. And the goals of fascism are to be economically like liberals, and socially like conservatives, for those who don't know. That defines authoritarian government.

I usually say conservative though, because most of the idiots around here think fascist = nazi, and know NOTHING about fascism.... and hence wouldn't understand.
To be fair, nazism is a form of fascism. Still different, but a "branching off", shall we say.
Superpower07
04-12-2004, 00:36
Libertarian
Lunatic Goofballs
04-12-2004, 00:39
My views are like an old episode if the 'Batman' show from the 1960's;

Slightly tilted. http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/aktion/action-smiley-015.gif
Free Soviets
04-12-2004, 00:43
Go Theocratic Democratic Socialists!

I'm sort of conservative (read: moralising: if you really must), but I also do not believe in huge corporations, and I believe in helping the poor and so forth.

ah, you would probably like my plan for the democrats to stop being completely completely marginalized in america

What are the arguments for anarchy - given that without law, the weak (ie children? women (physically weaker)) would just die?

most anarchists are all in favor of order and even law (though some object to the word). we just demand that order be created through voluntary agreement and egalitarian political structures. the anarchist agrument is really the state is an instrument that the strong use to dominate the weak - anarchism is about banding together so that nobody dominates anyone.
Bosworth II
04-12-2004, 00:43
Regular Socialists?
Arkansea
04-12-2004, 00:45
Communist,
I'm an awkward combination of Debsian syndicalism and Luxembourgism with environmentalism and hints of Trotskyism.
Right-Wing America
04-12-2004, 00:53
I am a Fascist. I have lived in America for all these years and as a result I am convinced that Democracy is a weak form of government which in most cases tends to be easily corruptable. I also believe that the masses dont know whats truly good for them and consequently I believe in not allowing them to participate in government decisions(the masses elected George W Bush in 2004.....need I say more?)
Siljhouettes
04-12-2004, 01:11
I'm sort of conservative (read: moralising: if you really must), but I also do not believe in huge corporations, and I believe in helping the poor and so forth.
Conservative Left? Most unusual indeed.

I voted Progressive. It sounds good.
LordaeronII
04-12-2004, 01:21
Well, that pretty much defines fascism. Though not the self-appointed part. It also must be unitary. Fascism is the extreme authoritarian ideology.

Fascism includes extreme authoritarian ideology yes, but fascism is also characterized by many things in addition to the strict dictionary definition, such as placing the state above the individual, strong nationalism, the economic/social values, etc.

Fascism does not exclude meritocractic ideals.

Not ideals perhaps, but in a meritocracy the leader can change. Under fascism, the leader cannot change except in a coup, or if the leader abdicates (or dies I suppose)

Fascism has proven to be the least stable of all forms of government that have been tried on a national scale. And the goals of fascism are to be economically like liberals, and socially like conservatives, for those who don't know. That defines authoritarian government.

Care to explain why you believe fascism is unstable?

To be fair, nazism is a form of fascism. Still different, but a "branching off", shall we say.

No, nazism is NOT a form of fascism... the ony real similarities are the authoritarian rule and strong nationalism (okay yeah I'm probably leaving some out, but the point remains, they share a few points, but nazism is not anywhere near close enough to be called a form of fascism)

Nazism was more social oriented, and also supports state controlled economy (I think, might be a bit off on this one).

Nazism were the ideals of one specific party in history, fascism is an actual ideology (or system of government)

Personally I believe in a strong sense of nationalism, propaganda to further that (I don't really like the term propaganda... carries a strongly negative connotation where I live, anyways though, it's accurate for these purposes), mostly free-market economy, conservative morals and social values, strong military, etc. etc.
Letila
04-12-2004, 01:30
What are the arguments for anarchy - given that without law, the weak (ie children? women (physically weaker)) would just die?

You need to read up on anarchism. You seem to be confusing it with Nietzscheanism (which isn't really a political theory, anyway).
Andaluciae
04-12-2004, 02:07
far too few moderates...
Free Soviets
04-12-2004, 09:28
far too few moderates...

far too many fascists
Tekania
04-12-2004, 09:57
Libertarian....

Combine more liberal than "liberal" social policies, with lassiez-faire capitalist economics.... Great combo :D
Comandante
04-12-2004, 10:39
Democratic Communist. Read, Extreme left social beliefs, (except for breeding, that is delegated to you by the community, though sex is free for all) and ultra-extreme left economic beliefs. I'm a pretty orthodox marxist by most people's estimation, my beliefs aren't filtered into by anyone else. And I'm also not an authoritarian, unless you consider the absolute authority of the group.
Khockist
04-12-2004, 11:13
Very far left libertarian with a strong influence of Socialism and basic egalitarian views
Presgreif
04-12-2004, 12:32
At the end of the day, I would have to say that I'm pretty much smack-dab in the center of the political spectrum, so I put moderate.
PIcaRDMPCia
04-12-2004, 12:36
Though I'm all for freedom when it concerns most things, such as relationships, race, softer drugs, and the like, in the economic sense I'm very much a socialist. So, though I usually call myself a liberal, I'm more of a Democratic Socialist, which is what I selected.
Sdaeriji
04-12-2004, 12:39
I'm a fan of Divine Mandate. Specifically, my Divine Mandate to rule the world.
Soviet Haaregrad
04-12-2004, 12:53
Basically combine libertarian social beliefs with socialist economic policies.
Hebrew Heartthrobs
04-12-2004, 12:58
I'm a fan of Divine Mandate. Specifically, my Divine Mandate to rule the world.

That is a good strategy.

I'm a secular-esque Neo-con over here, and proud of it.