NationStates Jolt Archive

Just a poll. Don't turn this into a flame war.

Are you

Very liberal
Somewhat liberal
Moderate
Somewhat conservative
Very conservative


I would be the last option.

... Dutch

i would be of the "a linear spectrum is inadequate to describe the position on holds about politics and is used by people to try and justify their unintelligable points of view"

Neither, liberals are unethical and conservatives are insanely radical.

Though I'm liberal, you forgot libertarian or authoritarian. The political spectrum has two axes.

Neither, liberals are unethical and conservatives are insanely radical.

ehh, if your serious about conservatives being radical your crazy.

ehh, if your serious about conservatives being radical your crazy.
You're right! They must be reactionary!

I said somewhat conservative, because I am quite liberal on things like euthanasia and abortion, but die-hard conservative when it comes to things like crime and so-called anti-social behaviour.

ehh, if your serious about conservatives being radical your crazy.

and you're biased

libertarianism. yes, that ought to have been included as an option. i am libertarian.

anyone have any books to reccomend for political reading? not the overused orwell ones. something different

I said somewhat conservative, because I am quite liberal on things like euthanasia and abortion, but die-hard conservative when it comes to things like crime and so-called anti-social behaviour.
What about your economic view? Your political alignment is twofold--social and economic. And then are people who have mixtues of both, and thus do not really fit the political spectrum.

I hate all forms of politics and political words

I don’t claim allegiance towards any side.

libertarianism. yes, that ought to have been included as an option. i am libertarian.

anyone have any books to reccomend for political reading? not the overused orwell ones. something different

Woot for Libertarian

Whats wrong with Orwell? but Brave New World by Aldous Huxley, Give Me A Break by John Stossel(leans right), and of course Clockwork Orange whos author slips my mind at the moment

What about your economic view? Your political alignment is twofold--social and economic. And then are people who have mixtues of both, and thus do not really fit the political spectrum.
Fair point. Although I'm not terribly knowledgeable on the specifics of economics, I would say it's more to the right of the spectrum, believing to some degree in capitalism. I suppose I believe that those who can should work, but at the same time I recognise that there are those who cannot do so, and feel that the State should provide them with benefits. I hate benefit scroungers though!

anyone have any books to reccomend for political reading? not the overused orwell ones. something different
I'm guessing you've already read Huxley too, such as Brave New World. I highly reccomend America: the Book, it's extremely entertaining.

I just finished reading No Exit: and Three Other Plays by Jean-Paul Sartre. He was French, and my edition was translated by S. Gilbert and I. Abel. I swear, those four plays were incredible. At the beginning, I thought it wouldn't be a bad read, but not a particularly good one. But that completely changed. In fact, my new signature is from one of the plays, The Flies. I swear, read it or you will be deprived of great writing. Though I do admit, some of the book isn't political, but the majority is.

If you haven't read The Republic by Plato, I recommend that as well.

The Prince by Niccolò Machiavelli isn't too bad either.

Even though those last two are pretty well-known, I still thought I should add them. I just realised that all but the first two are translations...but they're still awesome. Especially No Exit.

I can't vote. My answer isn't up there. However, if it were, it would go something like Which are you?

Choice Z. I'm right.

The political spectrum has two axes.

at the very least

I am independent on every issue.

I'm Somewhat Liberal, mostly because I'm not actually sure how to judge everything.

Fair point. Although I'm not terribly knowledgeable on the specifics of economics, I would say it's more to the right of the spectrum, believing to some degree in capitalism.
That is a economically libertarian mindset. Liberals are economically authoritarian and socially libertarian. Conservatives are economially libertarian and socially authoritarian.

Here are a few good images to try to show it, the first one's the best, in my opinion:
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/bothaxes.gif
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/enParties.gif
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/axeswithnames.gif

Woot for Libertarian

Whats wrong with Orwell? but Brave New World by Aldous Huxley, Give Me A Break by John Stossel(leans right), and of course Clockwork Orange whos author slips my mind at the moment


Clockwork Orange was written by Anthony Burgess. Huxley is my favorite though, my best friend is actually a distant relative of his.

most young, tolerant people are liberals. All of the people I know at college are liberals, and all the people in my fraternity are liberals.

conservatives = old/religious

I am independent on every issue.
So you have no political trends in your beliefs? Independent merely refers, at least to me, to not belonging to a party. I am independent, but also a liberal.

I'm moderately conservative. I can accept change, but it can't be done quickly, and the change has to be a good change.

Very liberal. Accepting an unsatisfactory status quo is the gateway to tyranny.

w00t for conservatives, they rule.

I'm moderately conservative. I can accept change, but it can't be done quickly, and the change has to be a good change.
That's not what conservative means, politically. Conservative means that, in a nutshell, one believes in limiting social freedom and having a free market.

Why must we label eachother?

Why must we label eachother?
Because it just makes everything so easy.

I voted moderate, but you guys tell me:

I am pro-choice
I am against capital punishment
I am against affirmative action
I am for stringent registration of guns, but against any bans whatsoever
I believe in a heavily regulated capitalism
I am athiest
I disagree with the war in Iraq as it the cost far outweighs the benefits
I believe the "War on Terrorism" was largely invented by the government, as
we have actively fought terrorism for many years
I believe all drug possession crimes should be eliminated except for minors,
which should amount to a fine.
I believe fervently in the separation of church and state

What do you people think? Am I right?

So you have no political trends in your beliefs? Independent merely refers, at least to me, to not belonging to a party. I am independent, but also a liberal.

It basically means that i am non-partisan and i vote for whoever i believe to be the best person for the job when it comes to the stances on various issues, and the history of the said politician.

The democratic party in america is obviously the liberal party, so are you just rejecting all of that partisanship? I'm not affiliated with a party because i don't like raw partisanship, and i am have my own opinion on every issue.

If i were going to run for office, i'd be able to skip the primaries, and i'd just tell everyone what i believe in, and stuff of that nature. I will go after any opponent that gives me a reason to hammer them on a issue.

If i was going against a guy like kerry, i'd concentrate on the approval of the war, but no to sending money? I'd hammer him for implying that he would allow the troops to stop getting paid and put an end to supplies and such which will cause a problem.

If bush was my opponent, i'd concentrate on him invading a soverign nation that had less to do with 9/11 than iran. Then if he brings up "getting rid of an evil dictator", i'd ask him in that case, why not invade North Korea, or Iran? What about syria?

Afghanistan was justified. I would have voted against going into iraq, but for the money going in there as it was too late to turn back at that point.

But that's just me.

I voted moderate, but you guys tell me:

I am pro-choice
I am against capital punishment
I am against affirmative action
I am for stringent registration of guns, but against any bans whatsoever
I believe in a heavily regulated capitalism
I am athiest
I disagree with the war in Iraq as it the cost far outweighs the benefits
I believe the "War on Terrorism" was largely invented by the government, as
we have actively fought terrorism for many years
I believe all drug possession crimes should be eliminated except for minors,
which should amount to a fine.
I believe fervently in the separation of church and state

What do you people think? Am I right?

Welcome to the liberal club buddy.

Welcome to the liberal club buddy.

Really? How do you think a moderate would have responded?

I am independent on every issue.

That makes no sense at all. Being an independant means that you aren't tied to a political party, letting you vote however you wish (even though you can do that when you are in a political party). It has little to do with issues. There isn't an "independant stance" on an issue.

New Democrat. let's hear it for moderate liberals!

i would be of the "a linear spectrum is inadequate to describe the position on holds about politics and is used by people to try and justify their unintelligable points of view"
*seconds that*

I'm Libertarian myself

*coff*SIG*coff*

That makes no sense at all. Being an independant means that you aren't tied to a political party, letting you vote however you wish (even though you can do that when you are in a political party). It has little to do with issues. There isn't an "independant stance" on an issue.

Let's put it this way, instead of having you try to belittle me for attention. I look at an issue, and i decide my stance, not by some political party.

I am pro-life, but with stuff like rape, i have a pro-choice stance.

As i believe in roman law in RL, i am FOR the death penalty for the worst of people. Those who kill over anything, not a mere one time killer that has a shaky concious, he can do hard labor for life. A crucifixion perhaps. :D

I'm against affirmative action as they have proved to be bias.

I am against any civilian owning a fire arm. When you make it illegal, then we can be at liberty to enforce!

I believe in a free private sector with taxes and fair regulations. But if in hard times the nation needs something, i believe that the government can choose to nationalise something in order to get production rolling. And once the nation isn't in need of the product as it was before, then it shall be handed back to the private sector and free market with the usual competition.

I'm not a catholic as sterotyped, i'm a romanist. And yes, i submitted the actual definition into uran dictionary dot com. Look up "Italianism".

I am against the war in iraq because it wasn't justified correctly, however it is too late to turn back.

"The war on terroism!" is just something to feed the average joe, i agree.

I am hard on crime, except when it comes to "weed". Legalize it with regulations, and illegalize tobacco that contains nicotine as it is the only reason why people cannot stop smoking.

I believe in seperation of church & state.

Couldn't answer the poll. Economically I'm a leftist. Socially I'm a libertarian.

I'm libertarian, I feel left out :mad:

Well, I'd proably be fiscally conservative (more in favor of less government spending, lower taxes), but socially liberal...

You couldn't answer the poll because econ wise you were left, and socially you're a libertarian? That's... Liberal. Obviously.


Me. I'm a strict libertarian, so I just put down Very Liberal, as social issues are more important than money for me. If money was more important, I'd go conservative.

Die-hard Conservative, baby.

Couldn't answer the poll. Economically I'm a leftist. Socially I'm a libertarian.
That is the modern definition of liberal right?

Die-hard Conservative, baby.

w00t for Evinsia! Conservatives for teh w1n.