NationStates Jolt Archive


Organ-Donors, explain yourselves

Sean O Mac
03-12-2004, 11:44
I think us people who have not donated organs have had to explain ourselves plenty over the past week. It's your turn.

While it's all well and good that you donate organs yourselves, what makes you think you can force others to?

Particularly interested to hear from any heart donors out there.
Kryozerkia
03-12-2004, 11:45
Yeah...! I like my organs in MY body...why am I a jerk for keepin' 'em, eh?
Torching Witches
03-12-2004, 11:50
If Their Organs Stop Working, It's Because God Wanted Them To Die. So You Whiny Liberals Can Just Go Sell Your Children's Body Parts If You Want, But You're Going Straight To Hell!!!

Why Am I Shouting?!

EDIT: Huh? I capitalised everything, and it came out in Title Capitalisation?
Pencil Suckers
03-12-2004, 11:51
Agreed.
Well said.
Gataway_Driver
03-12-2004, 11:51
Its obviously your choice but I think theres a certain suggesestion that they could be better used. I mean if someone who was close to me needed an organ I would hope there would be someone who can help. But hey curse me for asking a favour
.I can't donate myself so mine are just gonna rot but hey.
Kryozerkia
03-12-2004, 11:52
If Their Organs Stop Working, It's Because God Wanted Them To Die. So You Whiny Liberals Can Just Go Sell Your Children's Body Parts If You Want, But You're Going Straight To Hell!!!

Why Am I Shouting?!

EDIT: Huh? I capitalised everything, and it came out in Title Capitalisation?
Because...you're a loser with no life? :D
Sean O Mac
03-12-2004, 11:53
Its obviously your choice but I think theres a certain suggesestion that they could be better used. I mean if someone who was close to me needed an organ I would hope there would be someone who can help. But hey curse me for asking a favour
.I can't donate myself so mine are just gonna rot but hey.

Agreed. Actually this is just a cheeky parody of the "Pro-Lifers, explain yourselves" post. Sorry.
Gataway_Driver
03-12-2004, 11:53
If Their Organs Stop Working, It's Because God Wanted Them To Die. So You Whiny Liberals Can Just Go Sell Your Children's Body Parts If You Want, But You're Going Straight To Hell!!!

Why Am I Shouting?!

EDIT: Huh? I capitalised everything, and it came out in Title Capitalisation?


In England we don't get money for donating organs so I didn't really see it that way. But seriously to even think about taking that kinda actions pretty messed up
Kryozerkia
03-12-2004, 11:54
Agreed. Actually this is just a cheeky parody of the "Pro-Lifers, explain yourselves" post. Sorry.
;) quite obviously so.
Torching Witches
03-12-2004, 11:55
;) quite obviously so.
Yet still some fail to realise...
Kryozerkia
03-12-2004, 11:56
Yet still some fail to realise...
Ah, the subtlties of internet sarcasm. ^_^
Torching Witches
03-12-2004, 11:57
Ah, the subtlties of internet sarcasm. ^_^
And here, on one of the least subtle joke threads going. I would have thought the "heart donors" comment would have made it pretty clear.
Kryozerkia
03-12-2004, 11:59
No kidding. But, I guess some people take life too seriously.

HEY! News flash! Don't take lie seriously, no one gets out alive!
Sean O Mac
03-12-2004, 12:00
And here, on one of the least subtle joke threads going. I would have thought the "heart donors" comment would have made it pretty clear.

Quite so. Good to hear from you Torching. That guy in the "Abstinence" thread yesterday was a twat weren't he?
Stromera
03-12-2004, 12:02
Ok, I am put on an organ donor registry. I did it so that if I die, my organs can be used instead of rotting in my grave or ashes. You are the morons and the reasons that so many people die. If we had stem cell research however.........
Torching Witches
03-12-2004, 12:03
Quite so. Good to hear from you Torching. That guy in the "Abstinence" thread yesterday was a twat weren't he?
Indeed.

"You're American, so you must be an idiot. If you express your opinion, however, you must prove your intelligence to me."
Sean O Mac
03-12-2004, 12:04
Ok, I am put on an organ donor registry. I did it so that if I die, my organs can be used instead of rotting in my grave or ashes. You are the morons and the reasons that so many people die. If we had stem cell research however.........

Lol. Oh deary me.
Torching Witches
03-12-2004, 12:05
Ok, I am put on an organ donor registry. I did it so that if I die, my organs can be used instead of rotting in my grave or ashes. You are the morons and the reasons that so many people die. If we had stem cell research however.........
From someone who doesn't read.
Sean O Mac
03-12-2004, 12:12
From someone who doesn't read.

Haw haw!
The Isle Of Reefer
03-12-2004, 12:13
cmon.... you dont need your organs when you die.... really, you dont unless you are of the ancient egyptian belief which requires you to have your brain pulled out thru your nose and put in a jar for the afterlife

organ donation should be compulsory. Hell, living people need them more than the dead

as the slogan says....

dont take your organs to heaven.... heaven knows we need them here
Pithica
03-12-2004, 15:18
Thank you...I needed a good laugh.
Sean O Mac
03-12-2004, 15:19
Thank you...I needed a good laugh.

You're welcome. :)
Reichenau
03-12-2004, 16:05
Basically because I won`t need them when I die.If it helps save a couple of lives, why not???

But they shouldn`t make it obligatory...it`s your choice after all!!!
Bobslovakia
03-12-2004, 16:13
No kidding. But, I guess some people take life too seriously.

HEY! News flash! Don't take lie seriously, no one gets out alive!

very true, but also rather depressing. I plan to donate my organs, but I'm still under 18 so I can't. Just a factoid to all people who think it should be compulsory: Many people who will not donate organs, do so because of religious beliefs. You know, bodies impurity, etc.
Gawdly
03-12-2004, 16:16
Sadly, I only have a piano.
Bobslovakia
03-12-2004, 16:18
Indeed.

"You're American, so you must be an idiot. If you express your opinion, however, you must prove your intelligence to me."

Please don't stereotype, I am an American, and extremely intellectual. I mean come on, I'm 13 and spend a good chunk of my non-school day on this. Debating against other usually older people. Please don't call all Americans stupid, it kinda ticks me off.
Bobslovakia
03-12-2004, 16:20
You know, I think I might create a sattelite nation and call it pissedoffliberal. Yeah, that's a good idea.

One pissed off liberal signing off.
UpwardThrust
03-12-2004, 16:21
Please don't stereotype, I am an American, and extremely intellectual. I mean come on, I'm 13 and spend a good chunk of my non-school day on this. Debating against other usually older people. Please don't call all Americans stupid, it kinda ticks me off.
It was A JOKE

Grr another example of why [/sarcasm] or [/joke] needs to be used more ... some people just dont get it
Der Fuhrer Dyszel
03-12-2004, 16:29
An organ saved my finacee's life, although we know the end of that story, but without that heart transplant he would have never had the chance to say goodbye.

I am an organ donor so that I can give someone else a chance to live their lives if I am no longer alive.
Christiantenople
03-12-2004, 16:36
While I am an organ donor, I don't think people should be forced to donate them and should not be looked down upon. In Christiantenople it is not, nor will ever be, compulsory to donat organs, regardless of whether you are dead or alive.
Sdaeriji
03-12-2004, 16:39
I'd like to hear Bodies Without Organs' opinion on this subject.
Zeppistan
03-12-2004, 16:45
Well, it's not like we sell off our children for no reason....

I'm sure you recall:

Dad:
The mill's closed. There's no more work, we're destitute.

I've got no option but to sell you all for scientific experiments. [The children protest with heart-rending pleas.] No no, that's the way it is my loves... Blame the Catholic church for not letting me wear one of those little rubber things... Oh they've done some wonderful things in their time, they preserved the might and majesty, even the mystery of the Church of Rome, the sanctity of the sacrament and the indivisible oneness of the Trinity, but if they'd let me wear one of the little rubber things on the end of my cock we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.

Little Boy: Couldn't Mummy have worn some sort of pessary?

Dad: Not if we're going to remain members of the fastest growing religion in the world, my boy... You see, we believe... well, let me put it like this...

[sings]

There are Jews in the world,
There are Buddhists,
There are Hindus and Mormons and then,
There are those that follow Mohammed,
But I've never been one of them...

I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics,
Is they'll take you as soon as you're warm...

You don't have to be a six-footer,
You don't have to have a great brain,
You don't have to have any clothes on -
You're a Catholic the minute Dad came...

Because...

Every sperm is sacred,
Every sperm is great,
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.
UpwardThrust
03-12-2004, 16:52
Well, it's not like we sell off our children for no reason....

snip

Damn didn’t even think of “Meaning of life” DAMN lol:)


[quote]
MR. HARRY BLACKITT: Look at them, bloody Catholics, filling the bloody world
up with bloody people they can't afford to bloody feed.
MRS. BLACKITT: What are we dear?
MR. BLACKITT: Protestant, and fiercely proud of it.
MRS. BLACKITT: Hmm. Well, why do they have so many children?
MR. BLACKITT: Because... every time they have sexual intercourse, they have
to have a baby.
MRS. BLACKITT: But it's the same with us, Harry.
MR. BLACKITT: What do you mean?
MRS. BLACKITT: Well, I mean, we've got two children, and we've had sexual
intercourse twice.
MR. BLACKITT: That's not the point. We could have it any time we wanted.
MRS. BLACKITT: Really?
MR. BLACKITT: Oh, yes, and, what's more, because we don't believe in all that
Papist claptrap, we can take precautions.
MRS. BLACKITT: What, you mean... lock the door?
MR. BLACKITT: No, no. I mean, because we are members of the Protestant
Reformed Church, which successfully challenged the autocratic power of the
Papacy in the mid-sixteenth century, we can wear little rubber devices to
prevent issue.
MRS. BLACKITT: What d'you mean?
MR. BLACKITT: I could, if I wanted, have sexual intercourse with you,...
MRS. BLACKITT: Oh, yes, Harry.
MR. BLACKITT: ...and, by wearing a rubber sheath over my old feller, I could
insure... that, when I came off, you would not be impregnated.
MRS. BLACKITT: Ooh!
MR. BLACKITT: That's what being a Protestant's all about. That's why it's
the church for me. That's why it's the church for anyone who respects
the individual and the individual's right to decide for him or herself.
When Martin Luther nailed his protest up to the church door in fifteen-
seventeen, he may not have realised the full significance of what he was
doing, but four hundred years later, thanks to him, my dear, I can wear
whatever I want on my John Thomas,... [sniff] ...and, Protestantism
doesn't stop at the simple condom! Oh, no! I can wear French Ticklers
if I want.
MRS. BLACKITT: You what?
MR. BLACKITT: French Ticklers. Black Mambos. Crocodile Ribs. Sheaths that
are designed not only to protect, but also to enhance the stimulation of
sexual congress.
MRS. BLACKITT: Have you got one?
MR. BLACKITT: Have I got one? Uh, well, no, but I can go down the road any
time I want and walk into Harry's and hold my head up high and say in a
loud, steady voice, 'Harry, I want you to sell me a condom. In fact,
today, I think I'll have a French Tickler, for I am a Protestant.'
MRS. BLACKITT: Well, why don't you?
MR. BLACKITT: But they-- Well, they cannot, 'cause their church never made
the great leap out of the Middle Ages and the domination of alien
episcopal supremacy.
NARRATOR #1: But, despite the attempts of Protestants to promote the idea of
sex for pleasure, children continued to multiply everywhere.
[/quote
Koldor
03-12-2004, 16:54
Ok, I am put on an organ donor registry. I did it so that if I die, my organs can be used instead of rotting in my grave or ashes. You are the morons and the reasons that so many people die. If we had stem cell research however.........

Where do you live that you don't?
Bobslovakia
03-12-2004, 17:25
It was A JOKE

Grr another example of why [/sarcasm] or [/joke] needs to be used more ... some people just dont get it

Well... I can usually tell when some one is using sarcasm or joking, but I have seen too many people actually think stuff like that. Also i don't know torching that well, so he may have been serious.
UpwardThrust
03-12-2004, 17:27
Well... I can usually tell when some one is using sarcasm or joking, but I have seen too many people actually think stuff like that. Also i don't know torching that well, so he may have been serious.
I thought the quotes made it clear myself but oh whell
Torching Witches
03-12-2004, 18:09
I thought the quotes made it clear myself but oh whell
Just to lay this to rest, the bit in quotation marks was the position some idiot took in a thread yesterday. Several of us spent several pages laying into him for it. I'm British by the way. I don't like a lot of American policy, but I can separate America from Americans in my mind.
Soviet Narco State
03-12-2004, 19:25
I don't think it should be a choice. I know people have religious and personal reasons for not donating organs but people are dying everyday for a lack of organs. Do we allow people to practice human sacrafice for religious reasons? OF course not. Do we allow people to kill their wives if they cheat on them becasue they have deep personal beliefs that you should do so? If we don't harvest your organs and one of those organs could save a life and someone dies then you are basically killing the person.
Dempublicents
03-12-2004, 19:29
I think us people who have not donated organs have had to explain ourselves plenty over the past week. It's your turn.

While it's all well and good that you donate organs yourselves, what makes you think you can force others to?

Particularly interested to hear from any heart donors out there.

No one (or at least very few people) believes they can force others to donate organs.

However, an opt-out program rather than an opt-in program would be best.

And why am I signed up as an organ donor? Because I actually care about my fellow human beings.
Stroudiztan
03-12-2004, 20:09
There was a fellow I knew who donated all of his organs. And a couple of grand pianos as well.
Tuesday Heights
03-12-2004, 20:59
I'm an organ donor, because when I'm dead, I'll have no use for them anymore.
Communist Opressors
03-12-2004, 21:04
It is because organs are so delicious, exspecialy with fava beens......... :D
Kislet
03-12-2004, 21:17
I too am registered as an organ donor. If there is a chance that something in my body can help make someone else's life more bearable when I no longer need it, then I am more than happy to have the chance to save somebody. What better explanation do you want?
Amyst
03-12-2004, 21:21
I'm not registered as an organ donor because I'm exercising my God-given American right to be a selfish prick. Don't try to touch my organs or I'll scream rape.
Kislet
03-12-2004, 21:22
I don't think it should be a choice. I know people have religious and personal reasons for not donating organs but people are dying everyday for a lack of organs. Do we allow people to practice human sacrafice for religious reasons? OF course not. Do we allow people to kill their wives if they cheat on them becasue they have deep personal beliefs that you should do so? If we don't harvest your organs and one of those organs could save a life and someone dies then you are basically killing the person.

At the same time, we should not infringe on somebody's personal beliefs. To die is bad enough, but to die believing you are going to be damned for eternity because you have no choice in the matter of your organs being cut out and implanted in others? That can be rather stressful, don't you think? It's called civil liberties; it's a wonderful thing if they do register, but if they don't it's not anybody's place to take the organs anyway.
Stroudiztan
03-12-2004, 21:24
I'm not registered as an organ donor because I'm exercising my God-given American right to be a selfish prick. Don't try to touch my organs or I'll scream rape.

Not if we nab your larynx first!
Amyst
03-12-2004, 21:28
Not if we nab your larynx first!

I'll sign it as loud as my fingers can possibly sign, then!
Dempublicents
03-12-2004, 21:28
At the same time, we should not infringe on somebody's personal beliefs. To die is bad enough, but to die believing you are going to be damned for eternity because you have no choice in the matter of your organs being cut out and implanted in others? That can be rather stressful, don't you think? It's called civil liberties; it's a wonderful thing if they do register, but if they don't it's not anybody's place to take the organs anyway.

Actually, very few people have any such thoughts. Many, however, would be perfectly fine with donating, and are just too lazy or apathetic to sign up.

This is why I think we should have an opt-out system, rather than an opt-in. Those that feel strongly either way easily get what they want, and those that really just don't care actually help others.
Hexubiss
03-12-2004, 21:28
I think us people who have not donated organs have had to explain ourselves plenty over the past week. It's your turn.

While it's all well and good that you donate organs yourselves, what makes you think you can force others to?

Particularly interested to hear from any heart donors out there.


::news flash::

if you are dead, you don't need your organs anymore. Give them up, and someone else can live! :rolleyes: think of the children
Amyst
03-12-2004, 21:29
Actually, very few people have any such thoughts. Many, however, would be perfectly fine with donating, and are just too lazy or apathetic to sign up.

This is why I think we should have an opt-out system, rather than an opt-in. Those that feel strongly either way easily get what they want, and those that really just don't care actually help others.

How much work does it take to sign up? Really? It's like, a little card and a sticker on your license.

... actually, yes, that's far too much work for the average person.
Hexubiss
03-12-2004, 21:32
How much work does it take to sign up? Really? It's like, a little card and a sticker on your license.

... actually, yes, that's far too much work for the average person.



yes, and opt-out set up would be good
Dempublicents
03-12-2004, 21:32
How much work does it take to sign up? Really? It's like, a little card and a sticker on your license.

... actually, yes, that's far too much work for the average person.

Exactly my point.
Presidency
03-12-2004, 21:44
Donating my organ after dying gives me piece of mind knowing that what gave me pleasure in this world, will contiune giving pleasure to others along with spreading my seed through the wonderful art of propagation. Thus ensuring my Genes and joy are shared all around.
Bobslovakia
04-12-2004, 18:22
How much work does it take to sign up? Really? It's like, a little card and a sticker on your license.

... actually, yes, that's far too much work for the average person.

About as much as registering to vote. We all know that 100% of America is signed up for that... o wait.
Bobslovakia
04-12-2004, 18:25
Donating my organ after dying gives me piece of mind knowing that what gave me pleasure in this world, will contiune giving pleasure to others along with spreading my seed through the wonderful art of propagation. Thus ensuring my Genes and joy are shared all around.

I wonder, can you say "You can have my lungs, but I smoked for 30 years. You can have my liver, but I'm an alchoholic. You can have my heart, but I'm overweight and again, I smoked for 30 years. You can't have the stuff that works fine though." That would be funny.