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Either that or no understanding of biological concepts.

I think he's Loco in the head.

I think he's Loco in the head.
Me 2

Come on peeps vote vote vote.

I don't think it's a sign of mental illness, but it's certainly not very practical.

Once again, I agree with B-states

I read this question, and all I could hear was a voice yelling in the background....

"I'M NOT GETTING ANY AND DAMNIT NO ONE ELSE WILL GET ANY EITHER!"

Wait, um... little question. Are we talking ALL consensual sex, or just certain subsets? (Gaietude, prostitution, incest, etc.) Because anyone who wants to ban all of it is certainly ****ed up. In the other case, well, it depends on their motives and reasoning.

Then again, who's to say what's consent? A wife may submit to her husband because the church tells her to. A woman may sell her body because her job was outsourced by Halliburton. A goat may allow itself to be sodomized because, quite frankly, it can't tell the difference and it doesn't care. No choice is truly free, aye? So instead of posing a question fraught with uncertainty, say what you want to say:

"Homophobes are mean!!!1!1!!!one!!!"

Sex is good.

Wait, um... little question. Are we talking ALL consensual sex, or just certain subsets? (Gaietude, prostitution, incest, etc.) Because anyone who wants to ban all of it is certainly ****ed up. In the other case, well, it depends on their motives and reasoning.

Then again, who's to say what's consent? A wife may submit to her husband because the church tells her to. A woman may sell her body because her job was outsourced by Halliburton. A goat may allow itself to be sodomized because, quite frankly, it can't tell the difference and it doesn't care. No choice is truly free, aye? So instead of posing a question fraught with uncertainty, say what you want to say:

"Homophobes are mean!!!1!1!!!one!!!"

To clarify this poll is in response to the proposal by New Anthrus to ban *all* sex- I just wanted to check I wasnt the only one who thought it suggested mental illness.

Oh? Er... um... whoops. Is it too late for me to change my vote to "yes?" Sorry for misreading this. ^^;;;

Oh? Er... um... whoops. Is it too late for me to change my vote to "yes?" Sorry for misreading this. ^^;;;
No worries :D

Sexual repression, it's the stepping stone to fascism if you ask me.

straight sex,homosexual sex,incest,rape,bestiality,masturbation,group sex,partner swapping,pedophilia,necrophilia.what type of sex are you talking about?you need to restate the question much clearer.
Government controlled reproduction?Disease control?To purify the gene pool?Or simply a religious or moralistic objection to anything that is not strictly penis and vagina in the missionary position in the bonds of marriage?

straight sex,homosexual sex,incest,rape,bestiality,masturbation,group sex,partner swapping,pedophilia,necrophilia.what type of sex are you talking about?you need to restate the question much clearer.
Read the thread- it refers to another poster saying he wanted to ban *all* sex.

Read the thread- it refers to another poster saying he wanted to ban *all* sex.
Why ban all sex?(see above)

Why ban all sex?(see above)
Well my theory is wanting to ban all sex is suggestive of some form of psychiatric problem but the guy who wants to ban all sex has a thread here http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=378431
I am sure he will answer your questions cos I sure as hell cant ;)

Sexual repression, it's the stepping stone to fascism if you ask me.

Well, then fascism reigns in Africa and parts of Arabia due to the practice of genital mutilation performed on women. Then again, there's now reports of it among immigrant communities in Europe. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some cases here in North America as well. Apparently, the process makes the victims unable to feel pleasure during sex. Ouch, indeed.

Anyone who wants to ban sex outright or pervert it in some way so it's almost not considered sex by the definition probably has flown over the cuckoo's nest.

Well, then fascism reigns in Africa and parts of Arabia...
Duh. ;)

Apparently, the process makes the victims unable to feel pleasure during sex. Ouch, indeed.
And the process itself is gut-wrenchingly painful to boot. The whole practice of female genital mutilation is quite barbaric and mean. I'm just wondering why it hasn't been declared a "human rights violation," or if it has, why we aren't bombing the ever-loving crap out of countries that condone this form of torture. (Hey, Africa may not have oil, but it has diamonds, right? Diamonds are worth untold bloodshed, right? Pwease, Mr. Bush?)

I dont think this person has the required organ to have a mental illness

After reading his posts I was like, dude... O_O

That person's a nutcase, lol.

I'd like to hear from the 10 (so far) people who think that wanting to ban all sex is not a sign of mental illness! What exactly do you think it is a sign of?
(and please don't be pedantic about the meaning of the word sign)

I'd like to hear from the 10 (so far) people who think that wanting to ban all sex is not a sign of mental illness! What exactly do you think it is a sign of?
(and please don't be pedantic about the meaning of the word sign)


Whenever you ask a ridiculous question, some people are always going to choose the answer that will piss others off.

Whenever you ask a ridiculous question, some people are always going to choose the answer that will piss others off.

Ah. Nuff said!

C-r-r-r-aaaazy, toys in the attic, he is c-r-r-r-aaaazy, truly gone fishing -

Must have taken all of his marbles awa-a-a-a-y!

I'd like to hear from the 10 (so far) people who think that wanting to ban all sex is not a sign of mental illness! What exactly do you think it is a sign of?
(and please don't be pedantic about the meaning of the word sign)

It's a sign of being a dumbass. Not the same thing as being mentally ill. 'twould sure be nice if we could lock up all dumbasses in mental institutions though...

And the process itself is gut-wrenchingly painful to boot. The whole practice of female genital mutilation is quite barbaric and mean. I'm just wondering why it hasn't been declared a "human rights violation," or if it has, why we aren't bombing the ever-loving crap out of countries that condone this form of torture. (Hey, Africa may not have oil, but it has diamonds, right? Diamonds are worth untold bloodshed, right? Pwease, Mr. Bush?)
It has been declared a human rights violation. Many tribes have stopped (not sure whether "most" would have been accurate, but I suspect so) these practices, but some continue - tricky one because it's not seen as a problem by them, whereas other issues are, so it's easier to tackle them. If you interfere too much with these issues, then they might not let you help them on other things.

Must qualify that by saying it needs to be tackled, of course, because lack of women's and children's rights is one of the major factors in poverty and the spread of HIV. How to go about it is the tricky part. Subtlety is the answer.

And Africa does have oil in many places. And gold. You can go to Ghana and get gold. Except the multinationals have nicked most of it already.

Vote vote vote people.

Obviously, I voted that it is not a sign of mental illness. But many of the world's geniuses were clinically insane. And don't the insane ones come up with original thoughts?

Whatever, dude you need help, Im not dissing you go and see a shrink.

Whatever, dude you need help, Im not dissing you go and see a shrink.
Not right now. Let's see how this thought evolves. Humanity is better off without a few emotions, I think we can agree. I just chose sex because I knew that'd get the most posts. And I really don't want a worldwide ban on it, but just said it to attract posters. However, I wish more people moved away from it. Many people are very happy, yet celibate.

Yes

Wasn't there a 1984 agency which enforced the 'No Sex!' rule?

Yes

Wasn't there a 1984 agency which enforced the 'No Sex!' rule?
Orwell put it in there because, like all leftists, he never separates life from emotions. Well, I have news for him: emotions do not gain one knowledge of one's surroundings, but reason, and only reason.

Orwell put it in there because, like all leftists, he never separates life from emotions. Well, I have news for him: emotions do not gain one knowledge of one's surroundings, but reason, and only reason.
Firstly, I see what you're getting at man, and I don't think your mental. However, what exactly is it you think worthy of our attention? The betterment of the human race? Power over our environment? Pretty useless without the emotion to enjoy it, surely?

Firstly, I see what you're getting at man, and I don't think your mental. However, what exactly is it you think worthy of our attention? The betterment of the human race? Power over our environment? Pretty useless without the emotion to enjoy it, surely?
Sure it is. But as I argue, sex generates only physical emotions. Only humans are capable of emotions separate from the physical environment.

Sure it is. But as I argue, sex generates only physical emotions. Only humans are capable of emotions separate from the physical environment.

crap, youre having to battle this at two threads.....you sure you dont want some inlaws to lash out at ? ;-) (inside joke)

Duh. ;) (Hey, Africa may not have oil, but it has diamonds, right? Diamonds are worth untold bloodshed, right? Pwease, Mr. Bush?)

Why holler at Bush? What is Coffee Cup Annan doing about the situation in Africa? Oh, I know! Let's talk about the situation. More coffee? Now let's talk some more. etc, etc.:headbang:

Sure it is. But as I argue, sex generates only physical emotions. Only humans are capable of emotions separate from the physical environment.
1. Sex is about more than physical sensation.
2. I agree, emotions are a load of crap but so is everything else.
3. I think it would be a shame to deprive yourself of "higher" pleasures.. just as it would be to deprive yourself of other ones.

Many people are very happy, yet celibate.

Celibate or took "solution in hand?" :)

Dude

What is your point? Only religions ban weird sex. The only governments that (pretend to) ban such practices are unelected psuedo-religious dictatorships.

1. Sex is about more than physical sensation.
2. I agree, emotions are a load of crap but so is everything else.
3. I think it would be a shame to deprive yourself of "higher" pleasures.. just as it would be to deprive yourself of other ones.
Instincts are an emotional reaction to the physical environment. But humans are capable of so much more.

Instincts are an emotional reaction to the physical environment. But humans are capable of so much more.
Hmm, I had instincts down as defined what is hardwired in your mind; not a result of physical stimulus or logical deduction. I agree most are fuzzy approximations to a good way of getting your genes to survive in a long forgotten context, but then why are the logical axioms in our mind? Are they instinctual or a result of instinctual pattern finding?

It sounds like someone's trying to define anyone who disagrees with them as insane.

perhaps we should just decide that he was wrong and be done with it? it was a stupid suggestion because sex is inevitable and consentual and many people love it, so why ruin a good thing?

Hmm, I had instincts down as defined what is hardwired in your mind; not a result of physical stimulus or logical deduction. I agree most are fuzzy approximations to a good way of getting your genes to survive in a long forgotten context, but then why are the logical axioms in our mind? Are they instinctual or a result of instinctual pattern finding?
Neither. I find logic to be above instinct.

It sounds like someone's trying to define anyone who disagrees with them as insane.
Well, I'm not surprised. My suggestion is quite radical, and the idea is probably among just one or two intellects in the Ivory Towers.

Neither. I find logic to be above instinct.
While I certainly will agree that logic is the purest and most worthy way of thinking, I can't help but believe it's a part of our brain that's responsible for it's application in human thought, just like everything else.

Why holler at Bush? What is Coffee Cup Annan doing about the situation in Africa?
What power does Kofi Annan have, compared to Bush?

Despite what you neocons think, the UN is not a country and Annan is not a head of state.

I'd like to hear from the 10 (so far) people who think that wanting to ban all sex is not a sign of mental illness! What exactly do you think it is a sign of?
(and please don't be pedantic about the meaning of the word sign)

A sign of irrationality, perhaps. Banning sex would certainly be impractical, as artificial insemination amounts to doing with costly medical procedures what could easily be done naturally for free. Irrationality, however, is not a mental illness. There are plenty of people who are in perfect mental health and completely irrational.

A sign of irrationality, perhaps. Banning sex would certainly be impractical, as artificial insemination amounts to doing with costly medical procedures what could easily be done naturally for free. Irrationality, however, is not a mental illness. There are plenty of people who are in perfect mental health and completely irrational. It is a sign of mental illness - but where is the line between genius and crazyness - eh?

Purest, possibly unGodly, and efficient - there is one female. She is specifically bred for breeding, and is built in much the same way as a termite queen (you may have noticed that I have watched "Aliens" too many times). Her solitary role is to birth new offspring into the world - they will be engineered to protect her, but will be raised by nurses.

The epitome of evolution! (for anyone who's seen my *other* posts, is this a little strange, coming from me?)

Well, I'm not surprised. My suggestion is quite radical, and the idea is probably among just one or two intellects in the Ivory Towers. I still think that a human breeder (I like termites a LOT) would be a good idea. The only problem is: romance is such a good thing, and would you lose that as well?

The Bible says: Do not lust.
Surely this would be solved? But the Bible talks of marriage.

I really would like to see this human breeder we will have in the future.

As I said in his thread...


Sex0rz is good!

Neither. I find logic to be above instinct.

Are you seriously suggesting that you do not have emotional reactions to external stimuli. If not, then the logic you claim to be the only reason for your behaviour is inherently influenced by emotion, as it cannot be seperated from the individual applying the logic.

Earlier in the thread you dismissed the ideas of orwell by appealing to an error in his thinking as being a general error associated with left wing politics. Since politics is a socially constructed entity, any political stance will be based, at least in part, on emotion, and so your dismissal of left-wing views betrayed a degree of emotion in your thinking.

Are you seriously suggesting that you do not have emotional reactions to external stimuli. If not, then the logic you claim to be the only reason for your behaviour is inherently influenced by emotion, as it cannot be seperated from the individual applying the logic.
I never said I had those feelings. And I find nothing wrong with emotions on outside stimuli. But I think that, in instances like sex and fear, this stimulation is allowed to control one's life, and rational thought cannot override it.
Earlier in the thread you dismissed the ideas of orwell by appealing to an error in his thinking as being a general error associated with left wing politics. Since politics is a socially constructed entity, any political stance will be based, at least in part, on emotion, and so your dismissal of left-wing views betrayed a degree of emotion in your thinking.
Well, you are correct. But I find that left-wing thinking, or at least that far left, is so emotional, that it forgets objective reasoning. That is why a pure communist state has never formed: no reason was applied to it, but only ideas that gave it a fuzzy, feel-good quality.

Well, you are correct. But I find that left-wing thinking, or at least that far left, is so emotional, that it forgets objective reasoning.
I believe I'm not alone among the left in attributing that defect to the right.

I believe I'm not alone among the left in attributing that defect to the right.

I believe it is more a fault of both extreme right and extreme left views.

I never said I had those feelings. And I find nothing wrong with emotions on outside stimuli. But I think that, in instances like sex and fear, this stimulation is allowed to control one's life, and rational thought cannot override it.

I was trying to suggest that, in the case of human beings, Rational thought and emotion are inextricably linked. When someone attempts to apply reason this is always underpinned by there emotional situation.

It is a sign of mental illness - but where is the line between genius and crazyness - eh?

Purest, possibly unGodly, and efficient - there is one female. She is specifically bred for breeding, and is built in much the same way as a termite queen (you may have noticed that I have watched "Aliens" too many times). Her solitary role is to birth new offspring into the world - they will be engineered to protect her, but will be raised by nurses.

The epitome of evolution! (for anyone who's seen my *other* posts, is this a little strange, coming from me?)

this would decrease genetic biodiversity, which is a bad thing mate.

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I just want to ask what you think about the fact that 3/4 of the forum thinks your crazy? :D

It is a sign of mental illness

Really? Specifically which mental illness is it a sign of?

I don't think the DSM-IV recognizes it.

As said, sex is good. Well, usually. (Yes, Virginia, you can have lousy sex)

On the flip side, with the ever-expanding world population, I do believe there is a legitimate need to bring in check the amount of procreation going on. Do most poeple, especially in industrialized nations and nations with an allready huge population, really need to have five, six, or more children. Two seems like a pretty good number, maybe three.

I say keep the sex, but more use of condoms and birth control pills.

As far as the whole cutting off the clitoris thing goes - that's just messed up. There was an episode of Law and Order that dealt with the subject. (Hey, it's a good show sometimes so back off!)

The thing is that it was used as a way for patriarchal societies to prevent women from straying. If a woman can't experience sexual pleasure then she won't cheat on her husband. Yeah, like that's a good reason. NOT!

Anhwho, totally barbaric and assanine. But then, mutilation as social control is generally pretty stupid. And I'm not including tatoos, body scarification, or self-mutilation in this mindset as that's a diferent issue entirely. So there!

I just want to ask what you think about the fact that 3/4 of the forum thinks your crazy? :D
I think that's good. It means three fourths of the forum will feel really embarrased one day.

I think that's good. It means three fourths of the forum will feel really embarrased one day.

Maybe. Maybe not. You're obviously delusional, though you don't seem to meet to many other criterion for diagnosis of anything. Of course, I'm not a psychologist, and I've never met you in person, so I can't be certain.

I would recommend that you see a psychologist soon, though.

Hmm. If there are really huge rates of HIV transmission, or there's an urgent overpopulation situation, then banning sex may be a good idea as a last resort.

Oh, and you can't say that somebody with a different viewpoint has that viewpoint because they are "mentally ill". That would just lead me to think that the accuser has autism or some other disease that prevents them from being a social human being.

I think that's good. It means three fourths of the forum will feel really embarrased one day.


Embarrased that they knew someone that attained such a high level of mental illness, or embarrased that they had been fooled with this front you put on of being so ill?

I think that's good. It means three fourths of the forum will feel really embarrased one day.
im sure four "fourths" :) will be embarrassed one day but sorry to say mate I think it will only be one "fourth" that will be embarrassed of this thread


I wonder what happened to quarters ;)

this would decrease genetic biodiversity, which is a bad thing mate. Each human would contribute their genetic material, and the best would be selected. But this will never happen if I'm around to prevent it. Go to the original thread - it's getting interesting now! It's on P. 1 of General.

I wonder what people in the Middle east think of Gay marriage?
Start a thread about it and find out.

Start a thread about it and find out.
good idea

Very idiotic! ;)

Hmm. If there's an urgent overpopulation situation, .

HELLO
Been living on Earth Much????

is wanting to ban consentual sex a sign of mental illness? maybe, maybe not. it is clearly a sign of extrordinary arrogance and self-importance, and any person who is that concerned with what other people do in the bedroom is obviously not getting out enough. the need to control the genetalia of other adult citizens is a perverse fixation that, unfortunately, is held by all too many Americans who are currently judged "sane," so i think it is not insanity per se. it is, rather, a mark of immaturity and ignorance.

Humanity is better off without a few emotions, I think we can agree.
no, we can't. first you need to defend this idea, then perhaps you can continue with the discussion.

If your parents hadn't been allowed to have sex, folks, you wouldn't be in this discussion.

I think that countries like China and India should encourage usage of the pill and condoms; they have enough reproduction as it is.

Well, if I had my privates torn off in an accident, and I couldn't have sex anymore, then I damn well wouldn't want anyone else to have any either.

But I'm sure the Lord would see through such a cheap trick as that...

He believes that it is bad because it "creates obsession" and should be replaced with artificial methods. He seems to think that sex causes obsession in itself. This is just not true. If that were the case, everyone would be a rapist.

Jaffa Cakes are tasty.

Jaffa Cakes are tasty.
are they from israel?

are they from israel?
Nah man they are British and they fucking rock.

A wife may submit to her husband because the church tells her to.
The reverse is true as well. ;)

I've read in a couple of places that hyper-religiousity is a frequent sign of mental illness. Since most people who want to ban many forms of consensual sex wish to do so based on religious grounds, this could bolster the theory that it is a sign of mental illness.

I think it's a sign that they never had great sex.

It seems that when people's values are confronted by sound arguments that they can't answer to, they are most vocal in calling it out as wrong, stooping to the level of insulting and calling it 'a sign of mental illness' rather than looking at facts.

Eh, I'm still hoping humans will eventually evolve into having asexual reproduction, like amoebas. Think how much less complicated life would be! :D

sex is great

sex is great
agreed

He's not crazy, asexual maybe but not crazy, stop jumping to conclusions.

If youre referring to Anthrus as being a crazy, thats just not so. He believes what he believes and he debates in a respectful manner. I certainly dont agree with him on banning sex, but he respects the opinions of others. So while you may think him crazy.....he's actually quite sane. And a nice person to boot.

If youre referring to Anthrus as being a crazy, thats just not so. He believes what he believes and he debates in a respectful manner. I certainly dont agree with him on banning sex, but he respects the opinions of others. So while you may think him crazy.....he's actually quite sane. And a nice person to boot.
You voted yes in the poll.

Wow, me and Anthrus have a forum dedicated to us. What an honor.

Sure if the one calling for it is a member of the religious right in the USA.... :p

It is not a sign of mental illness. It is a sign of stupidity and emotional issues.

As a reproductive method, should sex ever be replaced, it would become a part of culture, practised solely for aesthetic purposes. And Anthrus would still remain a bitter virgin.

Wow, me and Anthrus have a forum dedicated to us. What an honor.

I argued on your side as well, you know.

Bumpty bumpty bump, bumpty bumpty bump ci-a -bo -la
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Dude

Dude!

Dude!
Britannic States cant answer ya he is deleted ;)

WHY?

*cries*

I hate it when people die. Or try to ban sex. When I am married I plan to have lots of it.

You voted yes in the poll.


No I didnt. If it shows I did, then I must have clicked where I should have clacked :confused: . I tend to do 6 or 7 things at once, so maybe I voted incorrectly....anyway, my point is that everyone is saying what a nutjob Anthrus is, and he's not. I stated earlier that he and I disagree on this subject but he is still a respectable person.


*stays away from polls due to improper voting*

Wow, me and Anthrus have a forum dedicated to us. What an honor.

Just a topic dear, not a whole forum. ;)

WHY?

*cries*

I hate it when people die. Or try to ban sex. When I am married I plan to have lots of it.

Why wait?!