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Laura Bush has problems problems beyond Bush. Perhaps its because she is a conservative and feels that all women should do is cook and clean, but its probably because, regardless of her political stance she knows nothing about politics. How about her speach for instance, during the RNC; "When I was a kid we would go through drills where we would have to go under our desks in preperation for a nuclear attack. But now, thanks to good Republican leadership in the past, we dont have to hide under desks anymore."

Lets get a couple things straight, Democrats handled the Cuban missle crissis, JFK in particular, the funny thing is, Conservatives hated him, because he was the first Catholic president. I dont see what other "good Republican leaders" she could have been talking about, lets see there was Nixon, no, Ford, wasnt bad but did nothing against nuclear missles, no, there was Bush, no. Reagan! Many people credit him, I say bs, I dont think he was that good of a president. So that part of her theory is gone.

AND IS SHE KIDDING?!?!?! WE DONT HAVE TO HIDE UNDER DESKS ANYMORE?! Ok, she was right, but now we have duct tape, and the defcon board, I mean, these are people who do their best to scare the bajesus out of Americans, ex. saying to watch out for pens that shoot poison darts, little airplanes packed with explosives, and buying duct tape to tape up your windows in case of a chemical attack, not to mention suggesting to buy gas masks.

HOW CAN ANYBODY BELIEVE THESE LIARS!!!!

It might've been under Eishenhower...

It might've been under Eishenhower...

Yes but Eisenhower was before the drills of going under the desks, and before the CMC. Eisenhower is irrelavent to anything having to do with what she said.

With the recent rash of Reagen stuff she might have convinced herself (as the Media tried to convince everyone) that Reagen and only Reagen ended the Cold War.

Many conservatives like to credit Regan with defeating communism. Maybe she was talking about him.

I like how you skipped Reagan when talking about republican presidents. I'm pretty sure she was talking about him.

Regean makes more sense then Eishenhower. :D

Tell me exactly what Reagan did to "end" communism and the cold war.

READ THE WHOLE THING OR IT MIGHT NOT MAKE SENCE.

Laura Bush has problems problems beyond Bush. Perhaps its because she is a conservative and feels that all women should do is cook and clean, but its probably because, regardless of her political stance she knows nothing about politics. How about her speach for instance, during the RNC; "When I was a kid we would go through drills where we would have to go under our desks in preperation for a nuclear attack. But now, thanks to good Republican leadership in the past, we dont have to hide under desks anymore."

Lets get a couple things straight, Democrats handled the Cuban missle crissis, JFK in particular, the funny thing is, Conservatives hated him, because he was the first Catholic president. I dont see what other "good Republican leaders" she could have been talking about, lets see there was Nixon, no, Ford, wasnt bad but did nothing against nuclear missles, no, there was Bush, no. Reagan! Many people credit him, I say bs, I dont think he was that good of a president. So that part of her theory is gone.

AND IS SHE KIDDING?!?!?! WE DONT HAVE TO HIDE UNDER DESKS ANYMORE?! Ok, she was right, but now we have duct tape, and the defcon board, I mean, these are people who do their best to scare the bajesus out of Americans, ex. saying to watch out for pens that shoot poison darts, little airplanes packed with explosives, and buying duct tape to tape up your windows in case of a chemical attack, not to mention suggesting to buy gas masks.

HOW CAN ANYBODY BELIEVE THESE LIARS!!!!
Run along home, little boy. I hear yer momma callin' you. :D

At one point this was true, but then Clinton gave nukes to the NK's.


Also, if you really wanted me to I could bring up all the stupid shit THK has said.

At one point this was true, but then Clinton gave nukes to the NK's.

By Cliton I assume you mean Clinton, anyway, no he did not give Nukes to to North Korea.

I like how you skipped Reagan when talking about republican presidents. I'm pretty sure she was talking about him.

That's not the point. The point is that we're just as fearful a culture now as we were during the height of the Cold War. We've replaced hiding under desks with a perpetually orange terror alert.

Run along home, little boy. I hear yer momma callin' you. :D

Once again, your mental acumen impresses me.

That's not the point. The point is that we're just as fearful a culture now as we were during the height of the Cold War. We've replaced hiding under desks with a perpetually orange terror alert.

Yes that is what I am saying! Thank you sdaerljkgkgjfi!!!!

Run along home, little boy. I hear yer momma callin' you. :D

Oh wow, your really convincing me that Im wrong.

So what is up with Korea?

Half the time the Democrats are talking about how it is all Bush's fault. Then they turn around and say that North Korea is not a problem.

The Rebublicans on the other hand start by saying that Clinton gave them Nukes and then saying we need to stop them before they get WMD (which is impossible since everyone and their grandmother has chemicals).

Tell me exactly what Reagan did to "end" communism and the cold war.

He resumed the military production of things to rival the USSR, and in their attempt to keep up with us, they went bankrupt, and thus giving the end of the USSR.

if you honestly think that JFK was a better president than regan, you need to open up a textbook

Run along home, little boy. I hear yer momma callin' you. :D

That was lame.

He resumed?

I was under the impression that that was a Cold War long plan.

Or were we buying Toilets with our perpetual spending increases?

Ike was more in the center then absolute republican. Many republicans didn't like him since he was in support of American participation in NATO. And also there was that little thing called the Interstate system that many conservatives didn't support that he did. So Laura Bush probably wasn't refering to Ike. And I agree Reagan wasn't that good of a president. He was only one factor in many that brought down the East Bloc.

if you honestly think that JFK was a better president than regan, you need to open up a textbook

What, a textbook on Republican presidents?

LOL

So why is it that nobody mentioned George H.W. Bush? Not only did he kick Saddam our of Kuwait, but he also had the good sense to say, 'Right. That job's done. Time to pack it up and get back to normal business.' That's about the last sensible thing I can remember a Republican doing.

Is it true that excessive masturbation can make you go Republican?

They are both very dumb, we all know that. Perhaps she is the victim of the dumbest of both:W. That would make sense.

Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun are a good comparision in being dumb and waisting blood for money, but then, Adolf and Eva where more intelligent. Besides the intelligence, they both hate a ethnic groop.

Adolf: the Jews and Communists
Bush: the Arabs and "Communists" (wich means: everyone that is not extreme right or Bibble belt fascist)

btw, the thread maker is an idiot. She is the first lady, this is what she does. First ladies are supposed to talk a lot, and make their husbands and party look good. Hilary had an even bigger mouth with even more ridiculous things said. Just shut up and stop complaining about every little thing the first family does.

Is it true that excessive masturbation can make you go Republican?

No lack of. thats why they're pissed all the time :p

if you honestly think that JFK was a better president than regan, you need to open up a textbook

I honestly think a lot of people were better than Reagan, I know why he was bad, I know why he was good, I dont know, Reagan might have been better than JFK its hard to tell they were very different, I do not like JFK for starting Viet-Nam, but Reagan didnt do a whole lot except for getting alzheimers.

If you honestly think the Yankees are better than the Red Sox you need to go to ESPN.com

So why is it that nobody mentioned George H.W. Bush? Not only did he kick Saddam our of Kuwait, but he also had the good sense to say, 'Right. That job's done. Time to pack it up and get back to normal business.' That's about the last sensible thing I can remember a Republican doing.

Is it true that excessive masturbation can make you go Republican?

Dude! The guy gave birth to GWB! How can he be good?

By Cliton I assume you mean Clinton, anyway, no he did not give Nukes to to North Korea.

Um... yeah he did. Not nuclear weapons, but nuclear material for nuclear power plants to give energy and power to NK, only they used it to make nukes instead.

Dude! The guy gave birth to GWB! How can he be good?

Actually, Barbara Bush gave birth to GWB. Unlike Ah-nold in "Junior", GB Sr. can't give birth. And using that as a basis to say he wasn't a good guy is one of the most ignorant things I've heard.

btw, the thread maker is an idiot. She is the first lady, this is what she does. First ladies are supposed to talk a lot, and make their husbands and party look good. Hilary had an even bigger mouth with even more ridiculous things said. Just shut up and stop complaining about every little thing the first family does.

Umm, how about no, yeah I know that the Republicans and a lot of polititions (but mostly Republicans) are supposed to lie to get their way, that is why I hate them, do you expect me to say; "Oh well if she is supposed to lie than I better bow down to her for doing her job!"

No.

Hilary had an even bigger mouth .

You talk penis?

I honestly think a lot of people were better than Reagan, I know why he was bad, I know why he was good, I dont know, Reagan might have been better than JFK its hard to tell they were very different, I do not like JFK for starting Viet-Nam, but Reagan didnt do a whole lot except for getting alzheimers.

If you honestly think the Yankees are better than the Red Sox you need to go to ESPN.com

HA! Yes! Go Red Sox!

What, a textbook on Republican presidents?

LOL
the only think jfk was good for was taxes, and he followed a conservative policy on taxes anyway

Um... yeah he did. Not nuclear weapons, but nuclear material for nuclear power plants to give energy and power to NK, only they used it to make nukes instead.

Uhh, no.

but Reagan didnt do a whole lot except for getting alzheimers.

What about get the Berlin wall torn down?

I do not like JFK for starting Viet-Nam,

Hey, let's not blame him for things he didn't do. The *French* basically "started" Vietnam, by not being able to deal with things going on in what had been their colony and was a protectorate at the time (if I remember correctly). They asked us for help and we went. Then, they bailed.

Besides, if we *really* want to be honest, Vietnam was *Johnson's* war.

Oh wow, your really convincing me that Im wrong.
ROFLMAO!!!! "Convincing" someone of anything presupposes they have the ability to reason and actually ... you know ... think! You surrendered any illusions of having that ability in your original post. Actually, I should just simply report you for flamebaiting and let it go at that, but it's SO much fun to watch you make a total ... well, just go for it, dude. You're doing great! LOL!

Actually, Barbara Bush gave birth to GWB. Unlike Ah-nold in "Junior", GB Sr. can't give birth. And using that as a basis to say he wasn't a good guy is one of the most ignorant things I've heard.

The thing about Bush Sr (btw sorry about saying he gave birth to Bush that was pretty stupid lol) He was good on foreign policy, but was aweful on the econemy, and just gave the impression that he didnt care about it. Thats why Clinton was a hero for building it back up again, along with many other factors.

What about get the Berlin wall torn down?

What about it? Bonzo didn't have anything to do with that.

I honestly think a lot of people were better than Reagan, I know why he was bad, I know why he was good, I dont know, Reagan might have been better than JFK its hard to tell they were very different, I do not like JFK for starting Viet-Nam, but Reagan didnt do a whole lot except for getting alzheimers.

If you honestly think the Yankees are better than the Red Sox you need to go to ESPN.com
apparently you are illiterate because i never said that yankees were better than red sox

Umm, how about no, yeah I know that the Republicans and a lot of polititions (but mostly Republicans) are supposed to lie to get their way, that is why I hate them, do you expect me to say; "Oh well if she is supposed to lie than I better bow down to her for doing her job!"

No.

Yes. Republicans lie. SO DO DEMOCRATS!!!!! THEY ARE ALL LIARS!!!! Democrats are not the perfect angels they try to appear to be. Stop acting as if Republicans are the devil and Democrats are God, they are both from from each of those.

Run along home, little boy. I hear yer momma callin' you. :D

Now, now Eutrusca, we all know that Laura Bush spouting partisan bullshit is no better than anyone else doing it.

ROFLMAO!!!! "Convincing" someone of anything presupposes they have the ability to reason and actually ... you know ... think! You surrendered any illusions of having that ability in your original post. Actually, I should just simply report you for flamebaiting and let it go at that, but it's SO much fun to watch you make a total ... well, just go for it, dude. You're doing great! LOL!

You're the only one flamebaiting here, buddy.

What about get the Berlin wall torn down?

Yeah I remember seeing him with a sledge hammer ripping it down, no he made a quote, but had nothing to do with it.

I honestly think a lot of people were better than Reagan, I know why he was bad, I know why he was good, I dont know, Reagan might have been better than JFK its hard to tell they were very different, I do not like JFK for starting Viet-Nam, but Reagan didnt do a whole lot except for getting alzheimers.

If you honestly think the Yankees are better than the Red Sox you need to go to ESPN.com
Ya, JFK wasn't bad except for that whole brink of nuclear war thing...

The thing about Bush Sr (btw sorry about saying he gave birth to Bush that was pretty stupid lol)

Yeah, I knew what you meant, but I had to point it out. Still, you can't say that because of that he wasn't a good guy.

Yes. Republicans lie. SO DO DEMOCRATS!!!!! THEY ARE ALL LIARS!!!! Democrats are not the perfect angels they try to appear to be. Stop acting as if Republicans are the devil and Democrats are God, they are both from from each of those.

Re-read my post that you quoted.

Hey, let's not blame him for things he didn't do. The *French* basically "started" Vietnam, by not being able to deal with things going on in what had been their colony and was a protectorate at the time (if I remember correctly). They asked us for help and we went. Then, they bailed.

Exactly, the French screwed us over.

Re-read my post that you quoted.

And? Yeah, you said politicians lie, but mostly Republicans. Stop focussing on just Republicans. Because they all, they all should be blamed and yelled at, not just Republicans.

Y'know what's funny?

Bush scored higher on the SAT-Style-Military Entrance test thingy, which they both took.

If you think that that was the most ignorant thing that has come out of Laura's mouth then you have not been following her career very closely. But what right do we have to expect the Fuhrer's consort to make rational statements? Sure our social conventions give the First Lady a bully pulpit, but she does not hold any official positions of state and thus has as much of a right to be an idiot as say Paris Hilton or Dan Quail (in civilian life) does.

Y'know what's funny?

Bush scored higher on the SAT-Style-Military Entrance test thingy, which they both took.

The ASVAB.

If you think that that was the most ignorant thing that has come out of Laura's mouth then you have not been following her career very closely. But what right do we have to expect the Fuhrer's consort to make rational statements? Sure our social conventions give the First Lady a bully pulpit, but she does not hold any official positions of state and thus has as much of a right to be an idiot as say Paris Hilton does.
go fuck yourself, dont call bush the "fuhrer" that is just outright offensive and wrong. I lost a lot of my family to hitler, and you are just an idiot to compare them.

Uhh, no.
Uhhh, yesss.

go fuck yourself, dont call bush the "fuhrer" that is just outright offensive and wrong. I lost a lot of my family to hitler, and you are just an idiot to compare them.
Tsk tsk! Such languege!

Go cry me a river. Most of my family died on the battlefield and in the camps too. Many people around the world today have lost their families to Bush's junta. Are their lives worth less because Bush is your fuhrer?

Reagan! Many people credit him, I say bs, I dont think he was that good of a president. So that part of her theory is gone.

Of course. The fact that you don't think Reagan was a good president completely disproves it.

If you think that that was the most ignorant thing that has come out of Laura's mouth then you have not been following her career very closely. But what right do we have to expect the Fuhrer's consort to make rational statements? Sure our social conventions give the First Lady a bully pulpit, but she does not hold any official positions of state and thus has as much of a right to be an idiot as say Paris Hilton or Dan Quail (in civilian life) does.
Again, shall we discuss the conduct of THK?

Again, shall we discuss the conduct of THK? THK who?

...just wondering, what's the average age here? If this topic's any indication, it can't be over 12...

It would be interesting to see what would have happened had Reagan not been elected - I personally don't believe the Cold War would've ended so well - but the fact that you left out the most important Republican president and only later added your pearl of wisdom - "I think he sucks so he sucks, and that's that" - makes me think that it doesn't even matter to you what he actually did; you care only that he was a Republican, and was therefore automatically wrong.

So to answer your question, "HOW CAN ANYONE BELIEVE THESE LIARS!!!!", it is in fact quite simple - all you must do is clear your mind of such unreasonable biases and think logically and reasonably about the situation, and then realize that you actually have no argument against them. You admitted that Mrs. Bush is in fact correct about at least half of what she said; the other half you discarded out of hand because new ideas are so dangerous, but hopefully you'll come around eventually and acknowledge that maybe, just maybe, Republicans are not the spawn of Satan, nor are the Democrats God's chosen people.

Malta, Bush I passed up the chance to remove a relentlessly sadistic and homocidal dictator from power, even with the backing of the rest of the world. This is the last sensible thing you can remember a Republican doing? Too bad the Republican Guard's not hiring any more... but I'm sure al-Qaida would love to have you.

While baseless sniping at the other side may be fun, it is not good for one's IQ - I wish you'd all take that to heart.

Tsk tsk! Such languege!

Go cry me a river. Most of my family died on the battlefield and the camps too. Many people around the world today have lost their families to Bush's junta. Are their lives worth less because Bush is your fuhrer?
oh yeah, because we all know bush targets and kills innocent people based on their creed or color. We all know bush killed 6 million people. Oh and dont forget liberating 2 countries, and helping them put up a democracy. Oh God, those poor people, you can obviously see how discontented they are with that 75% vote turnout :rolleyes:

Seems to me that Laura is not as dumb as george (although thats not saying much), however, I believe that she is under the illusion that republican presidents, no matter how senile, are responsible for everything good that ever happened to this country. In a sense, she is right. Although people think of beatniks and hippies as crazy, they are some of the best things to have ever happened under a republican president. Counter cultures thrive in environments like this, yet counterculture is not the only good thing that can happen, yet it is all that happened in the Eisenhower & Nixon years. btw, Reagan did not win the cold war, the soviets just lost it.

oh yeah, because we all know bush targets and kills innocent people based on their creed or color. We all know bush killed 6 million people. Oh and dont forget liberating 2 countries, and helping them put up a democracy. Oh God, those poor people, you can obviously see how discontented they are with that 75% vote turnout :rolleyes:
let me remind you, iraq was a democracy, just an extremely corrupt one. dont pretend ours is going to be any better

let me remind you, iraq was a democracy, just an extremely corrupt one. dont pretend ours is going to be any better
sorry i didnt realize i was debating with miss cleo

i love when democrats try to argue something "will happen". Lets try to use facts instead of your biased opinion. FACT- their old "democracy" was all a sham. FACT- this past election in Afghanistan was legitimate, and the people were able to choose who they wanted. A 19 year old afghani woman was the first to vote, where else do you see that around the middle east. FACT- the president elected into office has no ties to the taliban, and therefore afghanistan is doing much better than anyone thought it would.

But you obviously dont hear about this on the news.

let me remind you, iraq was a democracy, just an extremely corrupt one. dont pretend ours is going to be any better
So in January or whenever the elections are held, the result will be 99.9% for one candidate, who was also the only one on the ballot?

:rolleyes:

So in January or whenever the elections are held, the result will be 99.9% for one candidate, who was also the only one on the ballot?

:rolleyes:
Saddam had a mandate :P

i love how people who have never picked up a newspaper or read a history book call george bush an idiot, and in turn make themselves look like idiots

Saddam had a mandate :P

Yeah, just like Bush.

i love how people who have never picked up a newspaper or read a history book call george bush an idiot, and in turn make themselves look like idiots

Most of us who *know* that George Bush is an idot know this because we *have* read the news, history, science, etc. We generally know more about these subjects than he does, hence why we can refer to him as an idiot.

What about get the Berlin wall torn down?

Hmm; wasn't that the Germans that did that in one crazy night?

Did not saw commie slasher Reagan supporting those at the time, neither senior Bush. (was there, been there, only saw Germans)

id love to hear your story on how bush stole the elections

oh yeah, because we all know bush targets and kills innocent people based on their creed or color. We all know bush killed 6 million people. Oh and dont forget liberating 2 countries, and helping them put up a democracy. Oh God, those poor people, you can obviously see how discontented they are with that 75% vote turnout :rolleyes:I never said that the fuhrer of the American empire was another Hitler. He lacks the charisma and (thank the dogs) the actual personal power. The racism that his empire is built on is also far less extreme then the Nazi sort. But being better then Hitler isn't exactly a great achievment. Tens of thousands of murdered civilians in his regime's wars of conquest don't exactly make him a hero. Maybe he'll get the Nobel peace prize one day.

Your use of the word 'liberate' is highly amusing and a high turnout in an election does not a democracy make. The democratic institutions do not exist. The Bush regime's claims of 'democracy' are shameless PR and nothing more.

THK who?
Theresa Heinz Kerry.

id love to hear your story on how bush stole the elections

If you are talking to me, I never said he did.

However, Bush doesn't have a "mandate" any more than Saddam ever did.

So in January or whenever the elections are held, the result will be 99.9% for one candidate, who was also the only one on the ballot?

:rolleyes:
wow brilliant job of missing the point, why dont you go have a meaningful conversation with a wall and "0wn" it too

Your use of the word 'liberate' is highly amusing and a high turnout in an election does not a democracy make. The democratic institutions do not exist. The Bush regime's claims of 'democracy' are shameless PR and nothing more.

please back up that statement

wow brilliant job of missing the point, why dont you go have a meaningful conversation with a wall and "0wn" it too
Missing the point? You said, "let me remind you, iraq was a democracy, just an extremely corrupt one. dont pretend ours is going to be any better".

I'm not sure how I could miss the point. Maybe you could try backing up your statements, for once.

READ THE WHOLE THING OR IT MIGHT NOT MAKE SENCE.

Laura Bush has problems problems beyond Bush. Perhaps its because she is a conservative and feels that all women should do is cook and clean, but its probably because, regardless of her political stance she knows nothing about politics. How about her speach for instance, during the RNC; "When I was a kid we would go through drills where we would have to go under our desks in preperation for a nuclear attack. But now, thanks to good Republican leadership in the past, we dont have to hide under desks anymore."

Lets get a couple things straight, Democrats handled the Cuban missle crissis, JFK in particular, the funny thing is, Conservatives hated him, because he was the first Catholic president. I dont see what other "good Republican leaders" she could have been talking about, lets see there was Nixon, no, Ford, wasnt bad but did nothing against nuclear missles, no, there was Bush, no. Reagan! Many people credit him, I say bs, I dont think he was that good of a president. So that part of her theory is gone.

AND IS SHE KIDDING?!?!?! WE DONT HAVE TO HIDE UNDER DESKS ANYMORE?! Ok, she was right, but now we have duct tape, and the defcon board, I mean, these are people who do their best to scare the bajesus out of Americans, ex. saying to watch out for pens that shoot poison darts, little airplanes packed with explosives, and buying duct tape to tape up your windows in case of a chemical attack, not to mention suggesting to buy gas masks.

HOW CAN ANYBODY BELIEVE THESE LIARS!!!!

Lisen budy, everyone knows that laura bush never wanted george to run for president, and with a microphone in her face all day whats' she suppose to say ? i saw some anti bush media show the other day talking about how she was a bad pearson because when she was 16 she ran a red light and killed a guy, thats pritty petty condiering she was a kid and that was almost 44 years ago. IF YOU DON'T LIKE HER HUSBAN ATTACK HIS CHARACHTER,AND STAY AWAY FROM SOMEONE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

Hmm; wasn't that the Germans that did that in one crazy night?

Did not saw commie slasher Reagan supporting those at the time, neither senior Bush. (was there, been there, only saw Germans)


Plus some American tourists...

Well, actually a few days later; we took a class trip.

let me remind you, iraq was a democracy, just an extremely corrupt one. dont pretend ours is going to be any better


Iraq was no more democratic than the USSR was communist.