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Math help

MuhOre
02-12-2004, 19:42
Someone explain to me this stuff...

1.Express as a single logarithm with a coefficient of 1. Assume that all logarithms in the question have the same base.

4 log z + 5 log y - log w

2. solve for x: 4^x=9

I'm pretty sure i have to convert this one to logarithmic form, correct?
if so then the answer for this would be x=log(subscript4) 9

3. solve for y: log(y^2-1)=log(y+1)



thanks to all that help. :)
LordaeronII
02-12-2004, 19:47
1.Express as a single logarithm with a coefficient of 1. Assume that all logarithms in the question have the same base.

4 log z + 5 log y - log w

2. solve for x: 4^x=9

I'm pretty sure i have to convert this one to logarithmic form, correct?
if so then the answer for this would be x=log(subscript4) 9

3. solve for y: log(y^2-1)=log(y+1)

Well if no base is given actually, then it's the common base, base 10.

Anyways.

1. log(z^4y^5/w)

2. x = log9/log4

3. y^2-1=y+1
y^2-y-2=0
(y-2)(y+1) = 0
y = 2 or y = -1
MuhOre
02-12-2004, 19:50
As much as the answers are appreciated...

I also wanted to know, how to do them?

Can you explain in steps?
MuhOre
02-12-2004, 20:03
bump? =\
LordaeronII
02-12-2004, 20:07
1.Express as a single logarithm with a coefficient of 1. Assume that all logarithms in the question have the same base.

4 log z + 5 log y - log w

Actually I read your question wrong, ignore my answer lol.

okay, 4logz = log(z^4)
5logy = log(y^5)
logw = logw

If you are adding the logs, you can put them into a single log by multiplying, subtracting is division, hence

log[(z^4)(y^5)/w]

2. solve for x: 4^x=9

I'm pretty sure i have to convert this one to logarithmic form, correct?
if so then the answer for this would be x=log(subscript4) 9

Take the log of both sides, you then have

log(4^x) = log9
log(4^x) = xlog4
xlog4 = log 9
Divide both sides by log4
x = log9/log4

3. solve for y: log(y^2-1)=log(y+1)

Okay, well both sides have a common base, log with base 10 (the common base)

Therefore, y^2-1 must = y+1

From there you should be able to solve it.
MuhOre
02-12-2004, 20:15
Therefore, y^2-1 must = y+1

From there you should be able to solve it.


So... would i move it both sides making it


Y^2-y=1-1

y^2-y=0?
LordaeronII
02-12-2004, 20:18
3.
y^2-1=y+1

y^2-y-2=0

(y-2)(y+1) = 0

y = 2 or y = -1
MuhOre
02-12-2004, 20:25
Dear G-d!

No wonder i kept thinking what was wrong!

Sorry... i didnt write the whole question....




log(y^2-1)-1=log(y+1)


Sorry :(
LordaeronII
02-12-2004, 20:31
log(y^2-1)-1=log(y+1)

Hmmmm okee dokee, first express 1 as a common log

1 = log10

So now we have

log(y^2-1)-log10
which equals
log[(y^2-1)/10]

So therefore,
(y^2-1)/10 = y+1
y^2-1 = 10y+10
y^2-10y-11 = 0
(y-11)(y+1) = 0

Therefore, y = 11 or y = -1
MuhOre
02-12-2004, 20:36
thanks i understand'


I think Oo
LordaeronII
02-12-2004, 20:42
Lol no problem, which part aren't you sure about?

I personally just finished doing the logarithms unit so it's fresh in my head.

99.6% on the unit, SO CLOSE!
MuhOre
02-12-2004, 20:45
technically the whole thing you said...


But i;m sure after reviewing your steps, i should be able to understand what you were doing.

right?
Hellshroud
02-12-2004, 20:46
If you are adding the logs, you can put them into a single log by multiplying, subtracting is division

For future questions you may get, remember you can only do that with logs of the same base. Just in case :)
LordaeronII
02-12-2004, 20:49
It might look a bit weird because I have to use ^ rather than actually writing a superscripted number.

It might make more sense to you if you try writing it out by hand with superscripted powers and such.
MuhOre
02-12-2004, 20:52
It might look a bit weird because I have to use ^ rather than actually writing a superscripted number.

It might make more sense to you if you try writing it out by hand with superscripted powers and such.


No.. i don't think it's that.

Probably because i have limited knowledge of this, i am unsure on how it works in general. Thus i dont understand...but looking through everything, although writing it out, might help a bit... it will still take a bit to understand.