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Krapsalot
02-12-2004, 03:18
Hello...I just wanted to throw this out to any religious/philosophical discussions on these forums (there are a lot)... Point is, many people here are atheist/agnostic and most (no offense) have very little knowledge of Christianity and/or Catholicism. So I have made this thread where I can answer your questions about any issues regarding philospohy, politics, or Catholic teaching, and give you the viewpoint that a Catholic like myself should stand by. Just a few rules:

1. I am only 17, a junior in high school. I have attended Catholic school for 11 years so far, but I have not reached the fullest extent of my education (for example, I have not taken any Calculus yet) Keep that in mind.

2. Intelligent questions only please. If I get any crap like "OmG! U must beleiv in Adm nEve omg wat a moron! LOLOL!!!!1111" I will simply ignore you. If the question were reworded to "Do you really believe that the story of Adam and Eve is true?" Then I will be happy to answer your question to the best of my ability.

3. I am in the United States, be patient if I do not reply for i while...I'm probably sleeping or at school.

4. I WILL RESPECT YOUR VIEWS. PLEASE RESPECT MINE.

Ok, shoot


3.
Takuma
02-12-2004, 03:21
Are you a Creationist, Religious Evolutionist ^1, or Material Evolutionist ^2?

1. Someone who believes God started the universe, but that evolution also occured.
2. Someone who believes the universe began from nothing, or pure science.
Letora
02-12-2004, 03:23
Okay here's one...

I'm Catholic myself I just wanted to see if what I heard was indeed right...

My girlfriend is Pagan and I'm a Catholic...
Are we allowed to get married...and if so...what are the rules/guidelines?
Jayastan
02-12-2004, 03:25
Hello...I just wanted to throw this out to any religious/philosophical discussions on these forums (there are a lot)... Point is, many people here are atheist/agnostic and most (no offense) have very little knowledge of Christianity and/or Catholicism. So I have made this thread where I can answer your questions about any issues regarding philospohy, politics, or Catholic teaching, and give you the viewpoint that a Catholic like myself should stand by. Just a few rules:

1. I am only 17, a junior in high school. I have attended Catholic school for 11 years so far, but I have not reached the fullest extent of my education (for example, I have not taken any Calculus yet) Keep that in mind.

2. Intelligent questions only please. If I get any crap like "OmG! U must beleiv in Adm nEve omg wat a moron! LOLOL!!!!1111" I will simply ignore you. If the question were reworded to "Do you really believe that the story of Adam and Eve is true?" Then I will be happy to answer your question to the best of my ability.

3. I am in the United States, be patient if I do not reply for i while...I'm probably sleeping or at school.

4. I WILL RESPECT YOUR VIEWS. PLEASE RESPECT MINE.

Ok, shoot


3.

Where are you going to school? I went to catholic school grades 1 to 12 but this was in canada, so it may be different...
Superpower07
02-12-2004, 03:26
Another 'Ask a . . . ' thread

LOL
Klonor
02-12-2004, 04:06
Maybe it's time I resurrected mine, I did promise to bring it back one day.

Anyway, my question. Do you (personally) believe that Jesus was the Son of God, God Him/Her/Itself, or merely Gods Messiah.
The Psyker
02-12-2004, 04:14
Okay here's one...

I'm Catholic myself I just wanted to see if what I heard was indeed right...

My girlfriend is Pagan and I'm a Catholic...
Are we allowed to get married...and if so...what are the rules/guidelines?
Yes you can, you just have to agree to raise the kids Catholic if you want the Church to recognize the relationship.
UpwardThrust
02-12-2004, 04:35
Hello...I just wanted to throw this out to any religious/philosophical discussions on these forums (there are a lot)... Point is, many people here are atheist/agnostic and most (no offense) have very little knowledge of Christianity and/or Catholicism. So I have made this thread where I can answer your questions about any issues regarding philospohy, politics, or Catholic teaching, and give you the viewpoint that a Catholic like myself should stand by. Just a few rules:

1. I am only 17, a junior in high school. I have attended Catholic school for 11 years so far, but I have not reached the fullest extent of my education (for example, I have not taken any Calculus yet) Keep that in mind.

2. Intelligent questions only please. If I get any crap like "OmG! U must beleiv in Adm nEve omg wat a moron! LOLOL!!!!1111" I will simply ignore you. If the question were reworded to "Do you really believe that the story of Adam and Eve is true?" Then I will be happy to answer your question to the best of my ability.

3. I am in the United States, be patient if I do not reply for i while...I'm probably sleeping or at school.

4. I WILL RESPECT YOUR VIEWS. PLEASE RESPECT MINE.

Ok, shoot


3.
I think you made an error of assumption
I am agnostic and got my first 10 years in ... and I am no where near the most knowledgeable you just wait till grave gets around (speaks and writes fluent Hebrew ...and has ready access to the bible in its native format rather then the translated :) ) I think you got in over your head

Anyways since you have been so kind

1) Creationism – Do you believe it should be taught as a science class . if so why, being it doesn’t follow the scientific method nor is a direct opposition of evolution (not science)
2) Homosexual marriage – How do you justify the restriction of the LEGAL definition of marriage from homosexuals (note that legal != religious) even though Christianity is not the only religion that has a marriage ceremony nor do you need to go through the ceremony to become married in the eyes of the law
3) Abortion – I will leave that up to u as I am in a grey area on it leaning twards choice with informed father and the possibility of paper abortion (meaning he has the choice to be in no way responsible for the baby (choice having to be made before the first tri)

This is to get started

I warn you biblical quotes are NOT set in stone and are up to both the interpretation of the translators (in English … and grave will call you on this being he knows the original text) and its cultural context as well as original intention … and we have as ready access to the bible as you do to pull our on quotes (if you get to make clams based on a book we get the same resource) but we have the adage of science on our side

I warn you to the pitfalls so you can make informed replies that don’t sound dogmatic because you will be called on it
And if you think we are un informed you better re evaluate that before you make replies based on a flawed perspective.
Socalist Peoples
02-12-2004, 04:40
Another fluent in hebrew question.

what does jesus taste like?
I dont mean this in an insulting way but does the wafer taste different? and how do u answer the lutherans who say that jesus cant be in two places at once(Heaven and all the wafers and wine worldwide.)?

How can you, or any cristian disregard th pre-existing document of the old testement and go with a new one that clearly contradicts the original?

What do u think of admitting your sins and than seying some words and therefore being obsolved of the most major part of the punishment?

just wondering.
UpwardThrust
02-12-2004, 04:44
After my big ones how about this?
Do you believe shellfish is a sin to eat? Even though Leviticus clearly states that it is

How about wearing cloths of more then one fabric … also a Leviticus sin (most t-shirts are cotton polyester)

I know these were set down while there might *possibly* have been some cleanliness issues and that has changed … they are a sin none the less (they said sin specifically)
And if you don’t conceder them what is the criteria for ignoring parts of the bible? How do you decide what is not relevant now and what is not?
The Psyker
02-12-2004, 05:11
After my big ones how about this?
Do you believe shellfish is a sin to eat? Even though Leviticus clearly states that it is

How about wearing cloths of more then one fabric … also a Leviticus sin (most t-shirts are cotton polyester)

I know these were set down while there might *possibly* have been some cleanliness issues and that has changed … they are a sin none the less (they said sin specifically)
And if you don’t conceder them what is the criteria for ignoring parts of the bible? How do you decide what is not relevant now and what is not?
I think I can answer the shellfish question. The way I have always been taught the reason that Catholics, I'm Catholic so I won't speak for other christians, don't fallow the kosher food laws is that in teh Acts of the Apostles, don't know the passage sorry just going by what I was told in school, there is a pasasge where Peter has a vision where either the Holy Spirit or Jesus, sorry can't remember which, came and said that all that the Lord made is good and therefore none of his creations are unclean. As fore the cloth one I have no clue, but the best guess I could make would be that christians pretty much only seem to follow the ten commandments most of the time, which Jesus sumerized in too two rules. As for way some christians decide to to pick and chose some old testment passages to follow it beats the hell out of me and has allows been a pet peeve.
UpwardThrust
02-12-2004, 05:24
I think I can answer the shellfish question. The way I have always been taught the reason that Catholics, I'm Catholic so I won't speak for other christians, don't fallow the kosher food laws is that in teh Acts of the Apostles, don't know the passage sorry just going by what I was told in school, there is a pasasge where Peter has a vision where either the Holy Spirit or Jesus, sorry can't remember which, came and said that all that the Lord made is good and therefore none of his creations are unclean. As fore the cloth one I have no clue, but the best guess I could make would be that christians pretty much only seem to follow the ten commandments most of the time, which Jesus sumerized in too two rules. As for way some christians decide to to pick and chose some old testment passages to follow it beats the hell out of me and has allows been a pet peeve.
I agree … though I would point out that kosher laws are different they may include shellfish I don’t remember off hand

And I will look for the quote you speak of

And I understand your frustration specially when they pick from Leviticus to condemn homosexuality but ignore the rest of Leviticus because it is “not relevant”
Sdaeriji
02-12-2004, 05:28
Are you the Pope?
The Psyker
02-12-2004, 05:32
Are you the Pope?
??????
Katganistan
02-12-2004, 05:38
I agree … though I would point out that kosher laws are different they may include shellfish I don’t remember off hand

And I will look for the quote you speak of

And I understand your frustration specially when they pick from Leviticus to condemn homosexuality but ignore the rest of Leviticus because it is “not relevant”

If I recall correctly, lobster and shrimp are definitely verboten to those of the Jewish faith.
Boofheads
02-12-2004, 05:40
Are you a Creationist, Religious Evolutionist ^1, or Material Evolutionist ^2?

1. Someone who believes God started the universe, but that evolution also occured.
2. Someone who believes the universe began from nothing, or pure science.

Both evolution and creationism are in line with Catholic beliefs according to the pope. The Church doesn't, however, comment on the plausability of evolution because that is in the realm of science not religion.
UpwardThrust
02-12-2004, 05:41
If I recall correctly, lobster and shrimp are definitely verboten to those of the Jewish faith.
Lol thanks I couldent remember ... got too bussy to google it
Sdaeriji
02-12-2004, 05:43
??????

I'm just curious, since he seems qualified to speak for all Catholics.
The Psyker
02-12-2004, 05:44
Both evolution and creationism are in line with Catholic beliefs according to the pope. The Church doesn't, however, comment on the plausability of evolution because that is in the realm of science not religion.
Yeah basicaly the way I understand it is that God made the universe the how is is up to the scientists to figure out.
The Psyker
02-12-2004, 05:48
I'm just curious, since he seems qualified to speak for all Catholics.
Who the original poster, he just seems to be trying to start a forum on what christians believe. Or if you were refering to my post I just ment that I feel I have a good enough grasp on what the Catholic church teaches to make an atempt at explaining its beiliefs, but that I have no experiance in the protestant faith to make even the atempt.
Sdaeriji
02-12-2004, 05:49
Who the original poster, he just seems to be trying to start a forum on what christians believe. Or if you were refering to my post I just ment that I feel I have a good enough grasp on what the Catholic church teaches to make an atempt at explaining its beiliefs, but that I have no experiance in the protestant faith to make even the atempt.

No, not you. The original poster.
UpwardThrust
02-12-2004, 05:50
No, not you. The original poster.
Reminds me of family guy … with peters dad and the pope :p “he’s the friggin pope”
Caitalonia
02-12-2004, 05:57
Do you eat meat on Fridays? Why is that particular food law something that many Catholics still follow, is it in the New Testament?

How do you feel about the Catholic church spreading misinformation about the effectiveness of condoms as a way to prevent AIDS (ie saying that the virus can pass through latex) in countries where that disease is a huge problem?
UpwardThrust
02-12-2004, 06:01
How is it that if you do a direct translation that there are more support FOR homosexuality (or lack of condonement in very specific situations … for example Noah) then there is against it
The Psyker
02-12-2004, 06:01
Do you eat meat on Fridays? Why is that particular food law something that many Catholics still follow, is it in the New Testament?

How do you feel about the Catholic church spreading misinformation about the effectiveness of condoms as a way to prevent AIDS (ie saying that the virus can pass through latex) in countries where that disease is a huge problem?
That rule of not eating meat on fridays now only aplies to during Lent when all adults are suppose to fast on fridays. As for the second I haven't heard about it before.
UpwardThrust
02-12-2004, 06:03
That rule of not eating meat on fridays now only aplies to during Lent when all adults are suppose to fast on fridays. As for the second I haven't heard about it before.
But why … as far as I can tell there is minimal if not a complete lack of support for this practice
Independent Macedonia
02-12-2004, 06:12
It's like George Carlin suggested, "How many people do you really think are in hell for eating meat on Fridays?" I bet no one is, me being kinda Catholic (raised catholic and follow most of it but was never...oh god now i can't remember what you call it when you decide what religion you will follow...) anyway now i am leaning more towards Deism (God created the universe and is based off the fact that a watch maker makes a watch but doesn't have to keep it going.)

Anyway my only real question is....is it a sin to disagree with the Pope and some of the Catholic Beliefs?
The Psyker
02-12-2004, 06:14
How is it that if you do a direct translation that there are more support FOR homosexuality (or lack of condonement in very specific situations … for example Noah) then there is against it
My understanding on the Catholic church's stance on homosexuality involves two things it veiws on the purpouses of marriage and sex. Basicaly they see the main purpuse of marriage as an institute for sex to take place with in and to have kids and sex as properly being a union of a couple in to one body, like Jesus said "and the two shall be one flesh" ,or something to that efect, and a means of procreation, which is why it is aginst contraceptives. They say that homosexuals can't have kids through sex so don't meet the requirments for marriage. Don't ask me why they then allow sterile couples to marry the only explination I have recieved was that their could be a miracle. Personally I don't agree with the churches stance, I think if God didn't want them to be homosexuals he wouldn't have made them that way, but tha is the Churches understanding as I have been taught it.
UpwardThrust
02-12-2004, 06:16
My understanding on the Catholic church's stance on homosexuality involves two things it veiws on the purpouses of marriage and sex. Basicaly they see the main purpuse of marriage as an institute for sex to take place with in and to have kids and sex as properly being a union of a couple in to one body, like Jesus said "and the two shall be one flesh" ,or something to that efect, and a means of procreation, which is why it is aginst contraceptives. They say that homosexuals can't have kids through sex so don't meet the requirments for marriage. Don't ask me why they then allow sterile couples to marry the only explination I have recieved was that their could be a miracle. Personally I don't agree with the churches stance, I think if God didn't want them to be homosexuals he wouldn't have made them that way, but tha is the Churches understanding as I have been taught it.
Oh I understand … I ask to get others to think … don’t think any different :)

Though it really stumps me when their religious text doesn’t support them in the way it should and they just go discriminating merrily on
The Psyker
02-12-2004, 06:19
But why … as far as I can tell there is minimal if not a complete lack of support for this practice
As I understand it it originaly started as a corrupt Pope helping trying to help the fishing buesness of Rome. The current reasoning for not eating meat on Fridays in Lent is commemerating Jesus's sufering on the cross, pretty much he gave his life so we can sacrifise eating meat on fridays. There realy isn't any bases in the bible for it, its basicaly a matter of tradition, though wether capital T or lower case t I'm not sure, Capital T traditions are unchangable traditions while lower case t traditions are ones that can be changed.
The Psyker
02-12-2004, 06:20
Oh I understand … I ask to get others to think … don’t think any different :)

Though it really stumps me when their religious text doesn’t support them in the way it should and they just go discriminating merrily on
Thats alright I was just giving you their reason since you asked.
UpwardThrust
02-12-2004, 06:25
Thats alright I was just giving you their reason since you asked.
Yeah sorry being flip floppy guess I should just be patient and take the answer I get … :) oh btw I thank you for taking up one side of the argument … a lot of the time I have to do it :P
The Psyker
02-12-2004, 06:27
Your welcome, though I'm afraid I have to go now I have studying to do any way it was pleasant talking to you.
New Granada
02-12-2004, 10:03
Why is the pope catholic?
Krapsalot
03-12-2004, 03:25
I heartly apologize for being late on the post i was busy today...here are answer to some sanswers to selected questions.

Anyway, my question. Do you (personally) believe that Jesus was the Son of God, God Him/Her/Itself, or merely Gods Messiah.

Jesus is the Son of God. This is the central belief of Christianity and is what seperates us from Judaism

I dont mean this in an insulting way but does the wafer taste different?

To be wholly honest with you, it tastes like bread

I'm just curious, since he seems qualified to speak for all Catholics

I'm not a theologian but it does not take a theologian to understand Cathloic doctrine...ideally all Cathloics are supposed to believe the same central ideas, so i believe I can speak for all Cathloics, again ideally. However, people are not perfect (myself included).

Do you eat meat on Fridays? Why is that particular food law something that many Catholics still follow, is it in the New Testament?

It used to be all Fridays, but it has since been changed to just Fridays of Lent (the 40 days before Easter) where you are not supposed to eat meat. I don't believe it is found in the new testament, instead it is to remember the sacrificing our Lord made for us (He died on a Friday) by sacrificng a little ourselves.

How do you feel about the Catholic church spreading misinformation about the effectiveness of condoms as a way to prevent AIDS (ie saying that the virus can pass through latex) in countries where that disease is a huge problem?

Condoms are not the way to combat AIDS and other STDs...It is by NOT HAVING SEX. Using a condom violates one of the two main purposes of sex...the procreative, to create (or at least attempt to create) new life. Abstinence and fidelity are the only surefire ways to combat this monster.

Anyway my only real question is....is it a sin to disagree with the Pope and some of the Catholic Beliefs?

many people struggle with their faith at some point...its natural and the Church will support you in trying to stay on the path to salvation...however those who knowingly and willingly do not believe in the pope and some cathloic doctrine are in a sense disagreeing with Chirst Himself, so yes.
Klonor
03-12-2004, 03:36
Thank you, I ask merely because the different factions of Christianity hold different beliefs and I wanted clarification.
UpwardThrust
03-12-2004, 05:12
I heartly apologize for being late on the post i was busy today...here are answer to some sanswers to selected questions.



Jesus is the Son of God. This is the central belief of Christianity and is what seperates us from Judaism



To be wholly honest with you, it tastes like bread



I'm not a theologian but it does not take a theologian to understand Cathloic doctrine...ideally all Cathloics are supposed to believe the same central ideas, so i believe I can speak for all Cathloics, again ideally. However, people are not perfect (myself included).



It used to be all Fridays, but it has since been changed to just Fridays of Lent (the 40 days before Easter) where you are not supposed to eat meat. I don't believe it is found in the new testament, instead it is to remember the sacrificing our Lord made for us (He died on a Friday) by sacrificng a little ourselves.



Condoms are not the way to combat AIDS and other STDs...It is by NOT HAVING SEX. Using a condom violates one of the two main purposes of sex...the procreative, to create (or at least attempt to create) new life. Abstinence and fidelity are the only surefire ways to combat this monster.



many people struggle with their faith at some point...its natural and the Church will support you in trying to stay on the path to salvation...however those who knowingly and willingly do not believe in the pope and some cathloic doctrine are in a sense disagreeing with Chirst Himself, so yes.


Ok even though my questions were not answered (which is fine there are a lot out there)

Now my question is about your answer to the condom question

Do you think it was better to like about how condoms DO help?

You said the way to combat std’s is not through protection rather abstinence … I understand your point of view. But the question was about their lying about it. Do you find it morally right to lie to people to make your point stronger?
(sorry I had to call u on it but u dident answer the question but more of a “protection vs abstinence that was not asked)