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Worst book to movie adaptation.

Dempublicents
02-12-2004, 01:46
My vote = Queen of the Damned by Anne Rice.
Von Witzleben
02-12-2004, 01:47
Daredevil.
Gran Falloon
02-12-2004, 01:51
The Lords of Discipline - Pat conroy.

one of my favorite books. Horrible movie.
DeaconDave
02-12-2004, 01:51
Judge Dredd
Klonor
02-12-2004, 01:53
I'd have to say I, Robot (Gasp! What a shock!) because it really didn't have anything to do with the book. At all.
Amyst
02-12-2004, 02:01
My vote = Queen of the Damned by Anne Rice.

Second.
Draconis Nightcrawlis
02-12-2004, 02:04
My vote = Queen of the Damned by Anne Rice.

*Shudders at the thought of that film*

Man that was utter shite, I have no idea why I even sat through it.
Chess Squares
02-12-2004, 02:08
i vote all of them
Xenophobialand
02-12-2004, 02:12
Starship Troopers, hands down. An excellent study of military discipline turned into a crapfest with the sole redeeming feature being Dina Meyer's . . . erm . . . figure. Yeah, that's the word.
Jayastan
02-12-2004, 02:40
Starship Troopers, hands down. An excellent study of military discipline turned into a crapfest with the sole redeeming feature being Dina Meyer's . . . erm . . . figure. Yeah, that's the word.


I thought that movie was pretty entertaining in a campy sorta way, get dem humans goo u big beetle!

I would have to say the
POSTMAN

Kevin Costner sucks my nuts...
Fnordish Infamy
02-12-2004, 02:42
Second.

Third.

And I add Troy to the mix.
Cannot think of a name
02-12-2004, 02:46
The SciFi channel's adaptation of Riverworld. Brought to you by the same bastard as I, Robot, Dark City and The Crow. Man, I hate that guy.....
Incertonia
02-12-2004, 02:50
Didn't see that one, CTOAN, but I about popped a blood vessel when I saw the trailer for I, Robot. I was that pissed. I actually made the mistake of sitting through Daredevil, a movie I wanted so badly to like because I collected the comicbook in the Frank Miller years (God, how I would love to still own that collection now), and it wound up being a 2 hour music video. Ugh.
Fritzburgh
02-12-2004, 02:50
I don't know if I'd call it a truly bad movie, but I was really disappointed in the film version of Midnight Express. The book was much better.
Timidia
02-12-2004, 02:57
Definetly Timeline
Cannot think of a name
02-12-2004, 02:58
Didn't see that one, CTOAN, but I about popped a blood vessel when I saw the trailer for I, Robot. I was that pissed. I actually made the mistake of sitting through Daredevil, a movie I wanted so badly to like because I collected the comicbook in the Frank Miller years (God, how I would love to still own that collection now), and it wound up being a 2 hour music video. Ugh.
The two parts that really stuck me was Ben Affleck hissing "Justice" in the rafters and the feeble Bullseye showdown. I think I make excuses for that film because I, too, was a fan of the Frank Miller issues (in fact, consider Born Again one of the best comic book stories ever written) and I like all the shots that replicated famous covers. The Elektra fights where cheesy....all right-it sucked out loud.....dammit.....I was trying to find that place in me that allows me to watch Megaforce and Gymkata...couldn't do it. I think maybe I had to have seen it first when I was twelve.
Daranoth
02-12-2004, 03:00
My vote = Queen of the Damned by Anne Rice.

If its the one I'm thinking of, with Aliyah in it, I give them credit for it. It had the potential to be good but regretfully Aliyah was killed in a plane crash a quarter of the way through filming. Instead of recasting the part and reshooting they released as they had it and dedicated it to her memory.

My vote: Jurassic Park: The Lost World. Could they have gone any farther from the real plot then they did?
Land Sector A-7G
02-12-2004, 03:02
Dune done by the Sci-Fi channel, One of my favorite books ever. And the second part Children of Dune was just god awful :headbang:
The Great Sixth Reich
02-12-2004, 03:03
CBS's TV Movie: The Elizabeth Smart Story

IT SUCKED! That's all I can say. Talk about inaccurate to the book. (It was based on Bringing Elizabeth Home, which actually was an OK book.

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For Classics, I've got to say To Kill a Mockingbird. The book ruled, but the movie sucked!
Klonor
02-12-2004, 03:04
What do you mean? The Sci-Fi Dune adaption was pretty good. They cut out Thufir Hawat and really expanded the Princess Irulan, but other than that it was pretty good
Thelona
02-12-2004, 03:09
Dune done by the Sci-Fi channel, One of my favorite books ever.

Neither of the Dune movies I've seen have had much to recommend them.
Jayastan
02-12-2004, 03:10
The SciFi channel's adaptation of Riverworld. Brought to you by the same bastard as I, Robot, Dark City and The Crow. Man, I hate that guy.....


They made a movie of riverworld???????

That could have been a HUGE movie! why would they put it on cable tv? :mad:
Rossalyne
02-12-2004, 03:12
My vote: Jurassic Park: The Lost World. Could they have gone any farther from the real plot then they did?

You are very, very correct. Where was Levine, man? Levine?!
Cannot think of a name
02-12-2004, 03:14
I guess while knocking on comic book movies I should make a pre-emptive strike on the up-coming Ghost Rider (http://imdb.com/title/tt0259324/), by the same bastard who did Daredevil and staring Nick Cage as Johnny Blaze. Cage says he's a fan....I just don't have a good feeling about it.

Sucks, because I was a huge fan of Ghost Rider as a kid, collected all the old issues and Defenders because he was in it briefly.
Xenophobialand
02-12-2004, 03:15
I thought that movie was pretty entertaining in a campy sorta way, get dem humans goo u big beetle!

I would have to say the
POSTMAN

Kevin Costner sucks my nuts...

You're sort of right. It is good if you look at it from the angle of a sci-fi parody of those old WWII movies like "They Were Expendable" or something like that. The problem is, why pretend then that you were basing it on Heinlein's book? Because that is exactly what they did over and over: Vorhoevan was emphatic that this work was true to the spirit of the book form of Starship Troopers. In truth, it was almost as completely opposite the book form as you can get. The book was in many respects a dissertation on how you train soldiers to fight wars. In the movie, you had "elite" soldiers standing in a circle shooting armor-piercing rounds into/through a bug, and in general showing all the tactical coordination of your average Girl Scout troop placed in the same position.

Vorhoevan not only took no notes from Troopers, he didn't even take any notes during his stint in the Dutch Marines.
Cannot think of a name
02-12-2004, 03:15
They made a movie of riverworld???????

That could have been a HUGE movie! why would they put it on cable tv? :mad:
Dude, seriously-that was further than that version had any right to go...
Ahrelia
02-12-2004, 03:17
To Kill a Mockingbird[/i]. The book ruled, but the movie sucked!

Definitely, and also, Ella Enchanted... GAG ME WITH A SPOON!
And the same goes for Troy...
Discomanialandville
02-12-2004, 03:24
Are you kidding? to kill a mockingbird was good! Here's a question, though. Is K-19 the widowmaker a book? because the movie was the biggest shit I'd ever seen.
Land Sector A-7G
02-12-2004, 03:25
Are you kidding? to kill a mockingbird was good! Here's a question, though. Is K-19 the widowmaker a book? because the movie was the biggest shit I'd ever seen.

Not that i know of. I heard it was about a real russian sub. But yes horrible film
Gauthier
02-12-2004, 03:29
The Scarlet Letter

For the life of me, I could not find where in the book Hawthorne wrote about that Indian attack.
Jayastan
02-12-2004, 03:29
Dude, seriously-that was further than that version had any right to go...


Wow what a piss off, when i was reading that movie I kept thinking to myself that thsi could be a huge movie...

Who did they get to play the caveman?
Presidency
02-12-2004, 03:30
clock work orange
Jayastan
02-12-2004, 03:30
You're sort of right. It is good if you look at it from the angle of a sci-fi parody of those old WWII movies like "They Were Expendable" or something like that. The problem is, why pretend then that you were basing it on Heinlein's book? Because that is exactly what they did over and over: Vorhoevan was emphatic that this work was true to the spirit of the book form of Starship Troopers. In truth, it was almost as completely opposite the book form as you can get. The book was in many respects a dissertation on how you train soldiers to fight wars. In the movie, you had "elite" soldiers standing in a circle shooting armor-piercing rounds into/through a bug, and in general showing all the tactical coordination of your average Girl Scout troop placed in the same position.

Vorhoevan not only took no notes from Troopers, he didn't even take any notes during his stint in the Dutch Marines.


Probably just because its a well known book to get asses in the seats.. :(
Cannot think of a name
02-12-2004, 03:34
Wow what a piss off, when i was reading that movie I kept thinking to myself that thsi could be a huge movie...

Who did they get to play the caveman?
Here's the info. (http://imdb.com/title/tt0310952/)

No Richard Francis Burton, instead some astronaught. And for some reason they changed the name of Mark Twain's boat...There where greater injustices that my friend, who is a big fan, was screaming about. It looked like a pilot-but even sci-fi channel has to have a standard somewhere.
Gauthier
02-12-2004, 03:35
Definitely, and also, Ella Enchanted... GAG ME WITH A SPOON!

Didn't know it was a book. But when I saw the general plot outline i.e. a princess must break a spell on her that compels her to obey any request made to her...

I said to myself. "Come on, isn't Hollywood just making it a little too easy for the Knock-Off Porn Flick Industry?
Jayastan
02-12-2004, 03:38
Here's the info. (http://imdb.com/title/tt0310952/)

No Richard Francis Burton, instead some astronaught. And for some reason they changed the name of Mark Twain's boat...There where greater injustices that my friend, who is a big fan, was screaming about. It looked like a pilot-but even sci-fi channel has to have a standard somewhere.


I think i am going to reread that series of books its been like 10 years since i read them....
Eichen
02-12-2004, 03:39
Nobody's had it worse than Clive Barker (althou HellRaiser was great).
I agree with QOTD.
Some of the best are Fight Club and Clockwork Orange.
Markezins
02-12-2004, 03:39
Timeline sucked the most, damn terrible, the book was cool with technology and quantam stuff, but the movie was for stupid people
Right-Wing America
02-12-2004, 03:40
Probably just because its a well known book to get asses in the seats.. :(

At least the first Starship Troopers movie was entertaining. The sequal was just utter crap in every way possible(very low budget) and dont get me started on the horrible roughneck series....
Klonor
02-12-2004, 03:47
Didn't know it was a book. But when I saw the general plot outline i.e. a princess must break a spell on her that compels her to obey any request made to her...

I said to myself. "Come on, isn't Hollywood just making it a little too easy for the Knock-Off Porn Flick Industry?

I thought the exact same thing when I saw the previews.
Ahrelia
02-12-2004, 03:52
Didn't know it was a book. But when I saw the general plot outline i.e. a princess must break a spell on her that compels her to obey any request made to her...

I said to myself. "Come on, isn't Hollywood just making it a little too easy for the Knock-Off Porn Flick Industry?

It's actually a wonderful book by Gail Carson Levine written a rather long time ago now. Anyone who likes twisted fairytails should definitely read it.
Eridanus
02-12-2004, 03:56
Hitch Hikers GUide. I guess it was converted into a mini-series, that was soo poorly produced, it actually seemed like the book...soo...I guess that's a plus.
Soviet Narco State
02-12-2004, 03:58
Hitch Hikers GUide. I guess it was converted into a mini-series, that was soo poorly produced, it actually seemed like the book...soo...I guess that's a plus.
The hitch hiker mini series was beyond hillarious! What you didn't think Zaphods rubber second head was funny as all hell? four stars!
Amyst
02-12-2004, 04:02
If its the one I'm thinking of, with Aliyah in it, I give them credit for it. It had the potential to be good but regretfully Aliyah was killed in a plane crash a quarter of the way through filming. Instead of recasting the part and reshooting they released as they had it and dedicated it to her memory.

That's the right movie, but I don't think her death had anything to do with the movie being so far off from the book. The movie's version of Lestat just sucked - I wanted the Lestat from Interview with the Vampire, not some gothic mopy knockoff.
Eridanus
02-12-2004, 04:03
The hitch hiker mini series was beyond hillarious! What you didn't think Zaphods rubber second head was funny as all hell? four stars!

I didnt' say it was bad, I just said it was poorly produced. That guy who played Arthur made me crack up
New Foxxinnia
02-12-2004, 04:14
I, Robot your mom last night.
Amandoria
02-12-2004, 04:29
Queen of the Damned had potential. The Vampire Chronicles are very well written. I think the first mistake was skipping the second book, The Vampite Lestat. I mean, Anne Rice obviously wrote them in a specific order for a reason. As regrettable as Aliyah's death was, the movie would have been bad no matter what. As for the character Lestat, whether or not anyone thinks that he was portrayed well in Interview, they should have at least tried to make his character similar in Queen . It was just... odd. I don't know. I watch that movie with indifference and distaste, and I'm not sure which is predominant.
Armed Bookworms
02-12-2004, 06:28
You're sort of right. It is good if you look at it from the angle of a sci-fi parody of those old WWII movies like "They Were Expendable" or something like that. The problem is, why pretend then that you were basing it on Heinlein's book? Because that is exactly what they did over and over: Vorhoevan was emphatic that this work was true to the spirit of the book form of Starship Troopers. In truth, it was almost as completely opposite the book form as you can get. The book was in many respects a dissertation on how you train soldiers to fight wars. In the movie, you had "elite" soldiers standing in a circle shooting armor-piercing rounds into/through a bug, and in general showing all the tactical coordination of your average Girl Scout troop placed in the same position.

Vorhoevan not only took no notes from Troopers, he didn't even take any notes during his stint in the Dutch Marines.
It was as much a text of philosophy on human nature as it had anything to do with the military specifically. But you are correct in the statement that it was the worst adaptation ever, although the latest Harry Potter movie was an abomination as well.
Incertonia
02-12-2004, 07:16
It was as much a text of philosophy on human nature as it had anything to do with the military specifically. But you are correct in the statement that it was the worst adaptation ever, although the latest Harry Potter movie was an abomination as well.
I have to disagree with you on the latest Harry Potter movie. There were a lot of cuts--as is normal for a book that size--but Cuaron got the feel of that book just right. It's dark and dangerous and the characters are more unsure of themselves than ever. The problems that film had are the problems any film will have when you take a book that's over 300 pages long with multiple plotlines and try to cram it into a 3 hour film. It's the general problem with adaptation, which is why damn near any film that's based on a book that comes out resembling the book in any major way is an accomplishment.
Sanctaphrax
02-12-2004, 07:22
Harry Potter 1 was so bad, I didn't even bother going to watch two and three.

However, my vote goes with the guy who said Troy. The film was barely recognizable as the famous story.
Xenophobialand
02-12-2004, 07:30
It was as much a text of philosophy on human nature as it had anything to do with the military specifically. But you are correct in the statement that it was the worst adaptation ever, although the latest Harry Potter movie was an abomination as well.

Can't be sure about the last Potter movie, as I haven't seen it. I do know that the first two movies were a little flat precisely because Chris Columbus took so freakin' few liberties with the text. In the end, I wondered why I'd just spent that money if it meant coming up with something completely predictable, yet less vivid than what I'd just imagined by reading the book.

As for the human nature angle of Heinlein's book, yeah, I suppose. I dismissed most of it as behaviorist stuff that isn't really taught or held in high regard anymore, however. Even more, I thought it kind of funny how flagrantly he makes the Naturalistic Fallacy. But yeah, I should've amended my statement.
Dobbs Town
02-12-2004, 07:33
The only film I have ever seen an audience get up and leave, angrily, halfway through, on opening night - was David Lynch's Dune. That ranks highly, but has already been mentioned. So...choice number two:

David Cronenberg's film 'Crash' derived from J.G. Ballard's Crash, an insightful snapshot of the breakdown in relationships and the creeping malaise that permeated the post-Imperial Britain of the 1970s. Cronenberg changed the setting to a nameless, present-day North American city, and rendered it into a soft-porn fetish flick, peopled with Cronenberg's stock-in-trade, two-dimensional characters and wooden performances. A waste of hype.
Armed Bookworms
02-12-2004, 07:38
It's actually a wonderful book by Gail Carson Levine written a rather long time ago now. Anyone who likes twisted fairytails should definitely read it.
Coming out in 2005-2006 is the new movie :D :D :D
Centrist
02-12-2004, 07:40
Lord of the Rings was by far the worst





























Just kidding! Best movies out there actually. Can't really think of a horrible book to movie, but I was disappointed in the third Harry Potter, not so much where I hated it though.
Greater Alvashi
02-12-2004, 07:41
The first thing that comes to mind is Dreamcatcher.
CthulhuFhtagn
02-12-2004, 08:16
My vote: Jurassic Park: The Lost World. Could they have gone any farther from the real plot then they did?
That's the first movie that popped into my head when I read the OP. They slashed out most of the characters, (Where was Arby? Or Thorne? Or Levine?) removed the central idea of the plot, and decided halfway through the movie that they had too many people and killed off about 30 extras.

Come to think of it, Jurassic Park was pretty far away from the book as well. They cut Wu, they killed off Muldoon and Gennaro, and they left Hammond alive. Not to mention that they made Lex older than Tim.
St Heliers
02-12-2004, 08:22
I would say George Orwell's the Time Machine, great book, horrible movie
St Heliers
02-12-2004, 08:24
Whoever sed troy i agree with that as well, it was nothing like the Illiad
Dobbs Town
02-12-2004, 08:24
H.G. Wells.
Kryogenerica
02-12-2004, 09:58
Personally, I could happily torture to death whoever it was that butchered Gormenghast.

One of the best books ever made into a parody on film :sniper:

What do you mean? The Sci-Fi Dune adaption was pretty good. They cut out Thufir Hawat and really expanded the Princess Irulan, but other than that it was pretty good How could they do that? Hawat is a major character. I'm really sick of these morons who feel they have to "politically correctify" classic fiction :mad:
Destroyer Command
02-12-2004, 10:49
At least the first Starship Troopers movie was entertaining. The sequal was just utter crap in every way possible(very low budget) and dont get me started on the horrible roughneck series....

there was a sequel? I mean, other than that computer animated crap?
Torching Witches
02-12-2004, 10:55
I would say George Orwell's the Time Machine, great book, horrible movie
You mean HG Wells' The Time Machine. The first film was actually quite good. Didn't see the remake though.
Rasputin the Thief
02-12-2004, 10:56
Starship Troopers, hands down. An excellent study of military discipline turned into a crapfest with the sole redeeming feature being Dina Meyer's . . . erm . . . figure. Yeah, that's the word.

we did not see the same film. Xenophobics are usually not very good at understanding movies :rolleyes:
Nazbeckistan
02-12-2004, 11:19
I know its been said but i have to say David Lynch's Dung...err Dune.
Great idea David, take the best SciFi creation of the 20th Century, slash all the meaning out of it and attatch special effects that would have looked bad in the 60's.
Honourable mention to JP: The Lost World and Timeline. Michael Chricton should never licence his work again.
Jamotto
02-12-2004, 11:33
Fahrenheit 451
Legless Pirates
02-12-2004, 11:42
Jurassic was a bad adaptation

The new Bourne Identity too
Torching Witches
02-12-2004, 11:42
Fahrenheit 451
Ooh, that's harsh.
Nashwan
02-12-2004, 11:51
The Star Wars Trilogy:

The worst film adaptations of Dune, Lord of the Rings and The Hidden fortress ever!

LOL :D
Stripe-lovers
02-12-2004, 12:22
Nobody's had it worse than Clive Barker (althou HellRaiser was great).
I agree with QOTD.
Some of the best are Fight Club and Clockwork Orange.

Fight Club is an interesting one. It's the only case I'm familiar with of a book to film adaptation where the film deviates significantly (not in the sense that there's a lot of changes, just that those there are are significant) from the book yet it's still hard to judge which is better.
Stripe-lovers
02-12-2004, 12:32
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned The Lawnmower Man yet.

Oh, and Paycheck. I haven't read the original short story but I'd be willing to bet my monthly paycheck (about $350) that it can't possibly be worse than that turgid piece of predictable, badly acted, over directed shite.
Kryogenerica
02-12-2004, 13:34
I forgot to mention - The Running Man. Talk about deviating significantly..... :rolleyes:
Ravea
02-12-2004, 14:14
Either I Robot or THE HULK!!!!
Legless Pirates
02-12-2004, 14:15
Either I Robot or THE HULK!!!!
I, Robot, the book and movie, had nothing to do with each other except the title
Dempublicents
02-12-2004, 23:24
If its the one I'm thinking of, with Aliyah in it, I give them credit for it. It had the potential to be good but regretfully Aliyah was killed in a plane crash a quarter of the way through filming. Instead of recasting the part and reshooting they released as they had it and dedicated it to her memory.

Have you read the book? The entire feel of the movie was wrong. The facts were wrong. The characters were all badly cast. The entire movie was nothing but a big MTV video with nothing but the barebones of the actual idea of the book - all of the pertinent info was completely left out.

Inverview was a wonderful move, which had a near uncanny capture of the atmosphere of the book, regardless of some of the details getting changed. Queen of the Damned could only be called a good movie if it *wasn't* supposed to be based on the book.

My vote: Jurassic Park: The Lost World. Could they have gone any farther from the real plot then they did?

Hehe, yeah that one was bad too.
The Bolglands
02-12-2004, 23:57
GAH!!! Now I want to read that Vampire series ev1s talking about >.< Someone tell me what the series is called please?

As for worst films from books? Scarlet Letter. The book sucked. The movie sucked.

Oh, Question!

Did anyone enjoy Edward Scissor hands? I personally did.
Dobbs Town
03-12-2004, 00:02
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned The Lawnmower Man yet.

Oh, and Paycheck. I haven't read the original short story but I'd be willing to bet my monthly paycheck (about $350) that it can't possibly be worse than that turgid piece of predictable, badly acted, over directed shite.

The short story was indeed much better. Nowhere near as many strategically-placed startled pigeons, extraneous sparks, or digitally-composited mud spatters as John Woo's overblown turd of a flick. And no underfed blonde skank we're supposed to drool over, either.
Dempublicents
03-12-2004, 00:02
GAH!!! Now I want to read that Vampire series ev1s talking about >.< Someone tell me what the series is called please?

Anne Rice's?

It's called The Vampire Chronicles.

Interview with the Vampire, The Vampire Lestat, Queen of the Damned, Tale of the Body Thief, Memnoch the Devil, Armand, Blood and Gold, Pandora, Merrick -- I know I'm leaving one or two out, but the first five are in order and then you can go from there.
Jayastan
03-12-2004, 00:22
Anne Rice is very overated IMO.

Get it if your a chick and you enjoy reading about romantic vamps, who while evil still need love and need to express that love with hottie eurotrash...
Dempublicents
03-12-2004, 00:32
Get it if your a chick and you enjoy reading about romantic vamps, who while evil still need love and need to express that love with hottie eurotrash...

Eh? You apparently haven't even thought about reading the books.
Jayastan
03-12-2004, 00:40
I read one, one is more than enough... :sniper:
Madesonia
03-12-2004, 00:41
Heart's in Atlantis


GAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
The Bolglands
03-12-2004, 00:43
I am actually a huge fan of vampires (dated one in fact). So, I am interested in the series. Thanks Dem, I'll check it out next chance I get. The series by Amelia Atwater Rhodes wasn't bad. I just hope they don't turn it into a movie, gah, they would ruin it -sniff-
Mr Basil Fawlty
03-12-2004, 00:46
"Band of Brothers".

Rather nice book, by Ambrose, but (book and series) a continuation of the new legend and propaganda of the importance of the US in the EU theatre towards the USSR importance. Stalingrad, Kursk ((both to overimportant in the history of the Eastern Front regarding the destruction of Army corps Mitte in the Bagration operation in summer 1944) (1 million death/captured Germans.)
Most westerns forget this (specially us from the Western Hemisphre).
Roach-Busters
03-12-2004, 00:58
Heart's in Atlantis


GAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

The book sucked, too. It was pure garbage.
Ogiek
03-12-2004, 01:05
For Classics, I've got to say To Kill a Mockingbird. The book ruled, but the movie sucked!

Are you insane! To Kill a Mockingbird gets my vote as one of the only great books to become a great movie. Gregory Peck is Atticus Finch.

It has been mentioned several times but I think Dune has to be the best example of a great book being trashed by the movies - TWICE.
The Black Forrest
03-12-2004, 01:45
Lord of the Rings was by far the worst


Just kidding! Best movies out there actually. Can't really think of a horrible book to movie, but I was disappointed in the third Harry Potter, not so much where I hated it though.

As opposed to the first two, it's closer to the story.....
The Black Forrest
03-12-2004, 01:54
"Band of Brothers".

Rather nice book, by Ambrose, but (book and series) a continuation of the new legend and propaganda of the importance of the US in the EU theatre towards the USSR importance. Stalingrad, Kursk ((both to overimportant in the history of the Eastern Front regarding the destruction of Army corps Mitte in the Bagration operation in summer 1944) (1 million death/captured Germans.)
Most westerns forget this (specially us from the Western Hemisphre).

Yea right whatever.

The US did nothing about the war.

*SNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOORREEEEEEEEEE*

Heard it all before.

So do explain how a story about one American unit has to include discussions about the UK and the USSR?
Conceptualists
03-12-2004, 01:57
I have a copy of "The Pit and the Pendulum" which is absolutely dire. I mean, really, really apalling
The Black Forrest
03-12-2004, 02:10
Wow. Nobody ever saw Battlefield Earth or the catwoman?

Still there are more
Ishtar
Leonard, Part 6
Friday the 13th, Part IV (The Final Chapter)
The Lonely Lady
From Justin to Kelly
Gigli
Battlefield Earth: A Saga of the Year 3000
Captain America
RoboCop 3
Cat in the Hat
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
Catwoman
The Avengers
Grease 2

Now some of that will get a few people contimplating suicide!

Now if I had to pick out of all that

Herucles with Lou "The Hulk" Ferigno!
Ogiek
03-12-2004, 02:12
Wow. Nobody ever saw Battlefield Earth or the catwoman?

Still there are more
Ishtar
Leonard, Part 6
Friday the 13th, Part IV (The Final Chapter)
The Lonely Lady
From Justin to Kelly
Gigli
Battlefield Earth: A Saga of the Year 3000
Captain America
RoboCop 3
Cat in the Hat
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
Catwoman
The Avengers
Grease 2

Now some of that will get a few people contimplating suicide!

Now if I had to pick out of all that

Herucles with Lou "The Hulk" Ferigno!

I think my criteria would be that the original book had to be good to begin with.
Eran Flicker
03-12-2004, 02:20
the third Lord of the Rings was a terrible movie, awesome book
New Fubaria
03-12-2004, 02:22
Well, not the worst, but the first to leap into my mind is The Stand (Steven King). The TV miniseries was OK, but just didn't capture the "feel" of the book, IMHO. In my mind, The Stand is by far King's best novel, and I didn't think the movie did it justice...

Worst comic book to movie adaption would have to be a tie between Spawn and Judge Dredd... :(
The Black Forrest
03-12-2004, 02:22
I think my criteria would be that the original book had to be good to begin with.

Yea I have learn to read some time! ;)
Ecria
03-12-2004, 02:23
Mists of Avalon Defeats them all.

Brilliant costuming, hair design and soundtrack cannot make up for poor script writing and artistic licence of story altering.

EVER
New Granada
03-12-2004, 02:35
Well, not the worst, but the first to leap into my mind is The Stand (Steven King). The TV miniseries was OK, but just didn't capture the "feel" of the book, IMHO. In my mind, The Stand is by far King's best novel, and I didn't think the movie did it justice...

Worst comic book to movie adaption would have to be a tie between Spawn and Judge Dredd... :(



Judge Dredd is one of the worst movies ever made.

Not as bad as that heap of trash "equilibrium" though.
Via Ferrata
03-12-2004, 02:47
Yea right whatever.

The US did nothing about the war.

*SNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOORREEEEEEEEEE*

Heard it all before.

So do explain how a story about one American unit has to include discussions about the UK and the USSR?

Loser, you are way out of line.
Follow the topic,you revisionist US-Hitler :upyours:
The Black Forrest
03-12-2004, 03:31
Loser, you are way out of line.
Follow the topic,you revisionist US-Hitler :upyours:

Hey stop flashing your IQ

I know I should let it sink it before I write. Just get annoyed at this so called propganda claims all the time. The series is about one unit and what they went through and I just don't get why Europeans seem to think everything has to discuss what the others were doing at that moment in time.

I guess Basil probably would have like it better if at the end of everyshow the director said "You should know the Russians were...."

Ah well ;)
Stripe-lovers
03-12-2004, 04:50
Wow. Nobody ever saw Battlefield Earth or the catwoman?

Still there are more
Ishtar
Leonard, Part 6
Friday the 13th, Part IV (The Final Chapter)
The Lonely Lady
From Justin to Kelly
Gigli
Battlefield Earth: A Saga of the Year 3000
Captain America
RoboCop 3
Cat in the Hat
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
Catwoman
The Avengers
Grease 2


I don't think any of these were actually books per se, well I know some of them definitely weren't, apart from Cat in the Hat and Battlefield Earth. I stand to be corrected.
Keaiah
03-12-2004, 04:58
I'm probably going to have people look at this and roll their eyes, but whatever.

Harry Potter. All three movies. They were complete trash. The casting was horrible, and they were really untrue to the book. True, in a few places they used the exact lines from the books but they are incredibly rare times. In the third, especially, they took out incredibly important parts of the book, and added their own scenes so they could show off their special effects. Stupid special effects should never take precendence over the purity of the story.

Let's see, the Cat in the Hat was horrid. Let's not even go into that one.

Um, The Neverending Story movies were pretty bad. I liked them when I was younger, but they pale so much when compared to the book. Hard book to adapt to the screen though, so I forgive them. :P
Kryogenerica
03-12-2004, 13:23
Well, not the worst, but the first to leap into my mind is The Stand (Steven King). The TV miniseries was OK, but just didn't capture the "feel" of the book, IMHO. In my mind, The Stand is by far King's best novel, and I didn't think the movie did it justice...

I have made a point of not watching either "the Stand" or "It" for exactly this reason. People have told me bits and pieces about the movie "It" and it sounds really bad. I agree about "The Stand" being his best, btw. :)
Gataway_Driver
03-12-2004, 14:56
Jurassic Park II Lost world
Sean O Mac
03-12-2004, 14:58
I don't know but the best is "Lord of the Rings". Terrible books. Brilliant films!

I enjoyed "I, Robot", "Midnight Express" and "Starship troopers". They entertained me, but to be fair I have not touched the books so I cannot comment. "Troy" was ok but not brilliant.
Ogiek
03-12-2004, 16:08
the third Lord of the Rings was a terrible movie, awesome book

I don't know but the best is "Lord of the Rings". Terrible books. Brilliant films!

The red, bound Lord of the Rings series was the first book I ever bought with my own money ($45 - I worked all summer for my dad and that was my total pay). In the 30 years since I have read the books numerous times and turned my son on to the story as well. I even made a point of popping into the Eagle and Child pub in Oxford where Tolkein read portions of LOTR to C.S. Lewis.

Having said all that, I recognize that Tolkein was pretty mediocre at character development and, perhaps because he lived in an all male world of academics, was a horrible writer of women's characters. Whether human, elf, or hobbit, his characters were two-dimensional with no sense of any inner life at all. Most mythology - and LOTR is mythology - tends to be weak on characters and strong on story. LOTR is a rousing story.

The characters in the movies, especially the female ones, were more fleshed out than the ones on the page. Also, I think Tolkein would have been impressed with the attention to detail, as well as the special effects in the movies.

Although both books and movies are classics, neither is the epitome of art in their respective genres.
Great Scotia
03-12-2004, 17:15
The Disney version of T.H White's The Sword in the Stone.
Man that was awful. I loved the book so much, it was complex and beautiful and sad and understated
and the film just completely mullered it. There was no subtlety or pathos or ambiguity- it was just all clumsy and obvious and Hollywood and EASY.
Particularly what they did to Kay.

I realise there are a lot of conjunctions in this post- I just get so worked up.
Helioterra
03-12-2004, 17:31
American psycho. So lame.

I don't like to watch movies if I've already read it. Adaptations of old (or new) classics usually suck. But there has been some good ones too. Like adaptations of Eco's and Irving's books, or Clockwork Orange (I saw it first) or 2001.

Of course I've seen several good adaptations which I don't know about (meaning, never heard of the book or writer)
Freaky Freakers
03-12-2004, 17:35
Daredevil.

There wasn't any books with Daredevil - only comics :p
Chess Squares
03-12-2004, 17:37
There wasn't any books with Daredevil - only comics :p
close enough

just like the mario brothers movie