NationStates Jolt Archive

The "no child left behind" act by Bush was a way for him to help kids with their education. The only problem was that Bush underfunded the program. The plan to help the children was good, but there was not enough money to do so. Schools want to hire better/more teachers, but the available funds given to them weren't enough. Schools that didn't perform well would then be punished by receiving no money.

In a way, I do commemorate Bush for increasing the amount of money given to schools. But I wish he had spent more money on it. Some school districts did well, but some did poorly also.

Anyway, the problem now is that, buried within the 670 page law, it requires schools to give the list of names AND contact information of every student to military institutions. The "No Child Left Behind" isn't just for helping children. It's also a way for Bush to recruit your kids into the army.

http://www.motherjones.com/cgi-bin/print_article.pl?url=http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2002/11/ma_153_01.html

If you don't give them the information, they will punish you by taking away the school's funds.

Do they even right laws these days that don't somehow violate the 6th Ammendment? Right now in the senate there is law on the floor that will require pharmacies to report to the government the names, addresses and phone numbers as well as prescribing information for every Class II - IV drug they fill - without notifying the public they have to do it. The government will then pass this on to Law Enforcement as they see fit (and who knows who else) if they think someone is getting too many scripts. Patients with chronic pain or anxiety problems are screwed if this passes.

I hate you libreals for saying that Bush did this to get kids in the army.

I hate you libreals for saying that Bush did this to get kids in the army.



I hate the army for trying to recrute you when you go shopping at a mall. When we were in North Dakota, the recruters called these teenagers over and were asking if they considered joining the army. Fortunatly, they didn't ask me.

yay for Canada not actively recruiting teenagers!

yay for Canada not actively recruiting teenagers!



Canada doesn't give a damn our military, and they have a hard enough time recruiting adults, I mean, who wants to be in the Canadian Army anyway?

I hate the army for trying to recrute you when you go shopping at a mall. When we were in North Dakota, the recruters called these teenagers over and were asking if they considered joining the army. Fortunatly, they didn't ask me.
Listen to me there will be no draft.

Well, the whole program is illegal to begin with. The Bill of Rights states that States have certain powers that the Federal government cannot control. Education is one of them. By instituting this law he thereby ignores the Bill of Rights.
Of course, my purpose is not to bash Bush, for this piece of legistlation would never have been passed if it wasn't for Congress.

Listen to me there will be no draft.

He never said anything about a draft...

Listen to me there will be no draft.
Recruiting and drafting are very different.

Recruiting means they come up to you and pitch you a whole lot of propoganada on why you SHOULD join and serve your country.

Drafting means you get a card in the mail saying you must report for duty or else.

Canada doesn't give a damn our military, and they have a hard enough time recruiting adults, I mean, who wants to be in the Canadian Army anyway?
People who otherwise can't get a decent education? ;) j/k... People who want to serve our nation. ^_^

Is this RX-8 guy being sarcastic or something?

In Sweden we dont' even have an army... maybe thats better?

(There are some regiments left, but they are just there to defend, for example, if a terrorist attack happens)

www.mil.se (http://www.mil.se)

I hate you libreals for saying that Bush did this to get kids in the army.

I presume you meant "liberals", and I don't think that every single liberal would say that, or every person who wasn't liberal would not and you are stamping on other peoples opinion.

I think that this violation of privacy is disgusting, especially when simply given to the Army.

Is this RX-8 guy being sarcastic or something?
Yup.

Recruiting and drafting are very different.

Recruiting means they come up to you and pitch you a whole lot of propoganada on why you SHOULD join and serve your country.

Drafting means you get a card in the mail saying you must report for duty or else.

But it is not that different, is it, eh? Recruiting/draft, same thing. :rolleyes:

Yup.

Phew, I envisioned a frustrating argument ahead of me for a moment there...
You might want to start using [/sarcasm] tags, just so that there's no misunderstanding. You do actually get people who argue like that.

I presume you meant "liberals", and I don't think that every single liberal would say that, or every person who wasn't liberal would not and you are stamping on other peoples opinion.

I think that this violation of privacy is disgusting, especially when simply given to the Army.

Quite, quite.

i guess America's Army hasn't been paying for itself

The "no child left behind" act by Bush was a way for him to help kids with their education. The only problem was that Bush underfunded the program. The plan to help the children was good, but there was not enough money to do so. Schools want to hire better/more teachers, but the available funds given to them weren't enough. Schools that didn't perform well would then be punished by receiving no money.

In a way, I do commemorate Bush for increasing the amount of money given to schools. But I wish he had spent more money on it. Some school districts did well, but some did poorly also.

Anyway, the problem now is that, buried within the 670 page law, it requires schools to give the list of names AND contact information of every student to military institutions. The "No Child Left Behind" isn't just for helping children. It's also a way for Bush to recruit your kids into the army.

http://www.motherjones.com/cgi-bin/print_article.pl?url=http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2002/11/ma_153_01.html

If you don't give them the information, they will punish you by taking away the school's funds.
You had to read a Mother Jones article to figure that out? I figured that out in a simpler way that didn't involve Bush, or No Child Left Behind.
I figured it out by watching those 'Stay in School' commercials. At the end there's an ad for the US Army.

Duh!