NationStates Jolt Archive


Ah, those fundamentalist Eurpoeans! TSK! ;)

Eutrusca
30-11-2004, 20:39
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200411/CUL20041130b.html
Asurnahb
30-11-2004, 20:46
I'll tade you One of them for Fifty of ours.

I wouldn't be complaining if they put: "In God We Trust. Hail Satan!" on the Dollar Bill. :P
What about references to *my* preffered religion?! I should form a group of whiny little spoiled brats so I can bitch, moan and throw hissy fits about insignificant things too! /sarcasm
Sdaeriji
30-11-2004, 21:02
Why should Christianity get unique mention in the EU constitution over any other relgion?
Eutrusca
30-11-2004, 21:05
Why should Christianity get unique mention in the EU constitution over any other relgion?
Why indeed? Any thoughts on this???
Paxania
30-11-2004, 21:09
Europeans' Christian heritage, maybe, be they Catholic, Protestant, or Church of England?

Why does Islam deserve mention in the new Iraqi Constitution?
Sdaeriji
30-11-2004, 21:10
Why indeed? Any thoughts on this???

I think it's ridiculous. 1.3 million people out of 379.5 million want Christianity to get special mention in the EU constitution. I don't see what right they have to make that sort of demand.
Texan Hotrodders
30-11-2004, 21:12
I think it's ridiculous. 1.3 million people out of 379.5 million want Christianity to get special mention in the EU constitution. I don't see what right they have to make that sort of demand.

They can demand what they like, as far as I'm concerned. That doesn't mean they should get what they demand, however...
Sdaeriji
30-11-2004, 21:14
Europeans' Christian heritage, maybe, be they Catholic, Protestant, or Church of England?

Why does Islam deserve mention in the new Iraqi Constitution?

Because Iraq is 97% Islamic, and I would imagine that they want it there, although I have no proof of that. On the other hand, this is 1.3 million out of 380 million, a much less impressive .3% of the population.
Asurnahb
30-11-2004, 21:18
I'm not going to put my personal, extremely biased opinion on this thread, it will more than likely get me banned.

But, perhaps it has some of the same aspects as the Christian endevour here to fight for 'their right' to have their God mentioned in any text, be it personal or political. The sad thing is that it's done blindly, with no consideration for other beliefs whatsoever. Fundimentalists tend to believe their religion is higher than others, so therefore, should be mentioned before others. It's strictly religious, ceremonial, a chance for them to feel all warm and fuzzy inside when they say: "God bless us, everyone," at the end of an unbiased speech about social equality.

Just like this post is unbiased. *Wink wink, nudge nudge*

But then again, Fundimentalist Christians of America may be different than their counterparts of Europe. I went to one Southern Baptist Church (for the sheer sport of it), and the preacher there claimed that the EU would be the tool for the AntiChrist, and that America would be incapacitated.

If you ask me, he was merely trying to placate the blame from themselves (and myself) to my friends in the EU. Everyone is my friend, even the Fundimentalists, I merely don't agree with them. Feel the love?
Myrth
30-11-2004, 21:24
It will never go through. Europe is very secular. With the obvious exception of Britain, of course.
Eutrusca
30-11-2004, 21:27
It will never go through. Europe is very secular. With the obvious exception of Britain, of course.
But of course! How silly of us! :D
Sdaeriji
30-11-2004, 21:29
But of course! How silly of us! :D

That doesn't even make sense. "Us"?? You're from North friggin Carolina.
Erehwon Forest
30-11-2004, 21:47
Ain't gonna happen. When the constitution was being drafted, some morons in Poland whined about it not being a "christian constitution". The general attitude in Europe was "STFU, this is politics, not religion".

[This is not a jab at Poland or Poles, there just happens to be a significant number of silly catholic clergy in Poland.]
Sploddygloop
30-11-2004, 22:13
Europeans' Christian heritage, maybe, be they Catholic, Protestant, or Church of England?Did you know that only 14% of Brits go to church?

That's one reason why it doesn't belong in the constitution - no one much believes in all that stuff over here.
Dakini
30-11-2004, 22:16
"The word 'Christianity' is an all-encompassing word that includes Judaism and tolerance of other religions," she said.

umm... what?

since when?
Gnostikos
30-11-2004, 22:26
The general attitude in Europe was "STFU, this is politics, not religion".
Why can't people think like that in the U.S.? Why the hell not? It would make me feel so, oh so good. If science was added to that, I would probably have multiple orgasms on the spot. ;)
Shizzleforizzleyo
30-11-2004, 22:37
the murder of theo van gogh doesn't help this at all.