NationStates Jolt Archive


The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Gnomish Republics
30-11-2004, 03:57
Here's a link to it... see if you can corrupt some of those.
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

Here's my corruption- Due to the "equal pay for equal rights" clause, programmers in India have to get the same amount of money as programmers in the US or Europe, resulting in a collapse of the economy. That is a worst case scenario, since it could just lead to a very nice free socialist society in which almost everyone is happy.
Andaluciae
30-11-2004, 03:58
what the hell does the lower portion of this post have to do with the top?
Gnomish Republics
30-11-2004, 04:00
I said "see if you can corrupt some of those", and gave an example. There is a clause that states that you get equal pay for equal work. The following is a corruption of that.
Phaiakia
30-11-2004, 10:55
Given that the UDHR is merely an aspirational document and creates no binding obligations, does it matter whether you can corrupt it or not?
Phaiakia
30-11-2004, 10:57
Also, your 'corruption' is inherently wrong. In that, the right refers to equal treatment within the country, not in comparison to other countries.
Siljhouettes
30-11-2004, 19:28
Most countries routinely ignore this Declaration.
The disillusioned many
01-12-2004, 12:26
Awwwwww leave the poor guy alone
Zeppistan
01-12-2004, 16:24
Here's a link to it... see if you can corrupt some of those.
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

Here's my corruption- Due to the "equal pay for equal rights" clause, programmers in India have to get the same amount of money as programmers in the US or Europe, resulting in a collapse of the economy. That is a worst case scenario, since it could just lead to a very nice free socialist society in which almost everyone is happy.


And here is your flaw:

Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

IT is something to strive for, not something to mandate immediatly. And, further, member states are generally expected only to deal with these rights that affect domestic concerns within their own borders. There is no expectation of matching the highest salary in the world, but rather to grant equal pay for equal work rules within their own regions.


Of course, if you want to have more fun - try going through the list and see how many of the articles your own country violates. Look, for example, at your country's minimum wage rules and social assistance plans, and ask yourself if they meet the object of Article 25:


(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.


Or how about measuring your surveillance and search and seizure laws up to:


Article 12.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.




Looking down the list, I don't know if there is a country in the world that doesn't still have some worl to do to meet these objectives.
Bozzy
02-12-2004, 00:08
Here's my corruption- Due to the "equal pay for equal rights" clause, programmers in India have to get the same amount of money as programmers in the US or Europe, resulting in a collapse of the economy. That is a worst case scenario, since it could just lead to a very nice free socialist society in which almost everyone is happy.
I think it would make more sense to pay the American programmers the same as the programmers in India. It would be just as fair...