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Hello,

As my name suggests I live in Australia. I live near Sydney.
However I was born and raised in England. I want to talk about my experiences living there and that I would never go back to England.

I was born in Southend-on-Sea in Essex, about 1 hour drive from London. I went to school there and had an unhappy childhood. Bullying was rife and at both schoold I attended bullying was commonplace and nothing was ever done about it. I have Dyslexia and therefore had problems with reading and writing and Maths. I was called 'Thick' almost ever single day until i left school when I was 16. I attended College and sis A-levels. I have to admit I enjoyed Colege a lot more than school.
You were never allowed to be angry at how some one treated you. You were told that you should never fight no matter what someone does to you. I dont believe this anymore. Sometimes you need to fight back and use violence to get heard.
But anyway one of my problems with English people is that they dont seem to care about other people much. I never got sympathy from anyone at schoold if I broke down crying or found something difficult. If you tried to make a fuss and get the attention and support you needed, they would claim that you were giving them too much grief.
English people are very cold with their feelings and care more about football than trying to Harmonise with people around them.
I have found people in Australia more open with their feelings and a bit kinder, more thoughtful and understanding. Nobody has ever called me 'thick' in Australia and if I let them know im Dyslexic they remember and treat me fairly.
Saying Hello or Good Morning and see you later seem to be too much effort for English people as well.

I know some of the things I wrote will upset people but I needed to tell this.

Sounds more like the age difference to me.

For example - kids. Primary age kids are, everywhere in the world, bastards. Adults forget this.

When you moved to Australia, you mainly (from the sound of things) encountered the adults here.

Trust me, having gone through school here, I can say that Australian kids are just as mean spirited, cold, and downright evil as the kids you've described.

Not to try and say you're wrong... I haven't been to England, so I can't say.

But you need to remember that in England you were dealing with children, and young adults - both groups are rife with self prats, ignorant bastards, and sadists (and it's actually worse in the former group). When you got to Australia, you dealt with adults - and, for some reason, people tend to be less blatantly evil as adults. Probably scared they can't get away with it.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you, a friend of mine was bullied when we first started high school and it really upset me that someone I cared about was being hurt like that and me and my friends did our very best to help her and she didn't need to resort to violence, we encouraged her to tell a teacher and eventually the bully was asked to leave the school. It's really unfair of you to stereotype an entire country from your experiences in one place!

I have to say, having lived in England all my life, I've never found people especially unkind or cruel. Sure, we have our share of wankers, but then who doesn't?

It has to be said, though, that Australia (and maybe NZ) is the only other country in the world I would consider living in.

Hello,

As my name suggests I live in Australia. I live near Sydney.
However I was born and raised in England. I want to talk about my experiences living there and that I would never go back to England.

I was born in Southend-on-Sea in Essex, about 1 hour drive from London. I went to school there and had an unhappy childhood. Bullying was rife and at both schoold I attended bullying was commonplace and nothing was ever done about it. I have Dyslexia and therefore had problems with reading and writing and Maths. I was called 'Thick' almost ever single day until i left school when I was 16. I attended College and sis A-levels. I have to admit I enjoyed Colege a lot more than school.
You were never allowed to be angry at how some one treated you. You were told that you should never fight no matter what someone does to you. I dont believe this anymore. Sometimes you need to fight back and use violence to get heard.
But anyway one of my problems with English people is that they dont seem to care about other people much. I never got sympathy from anyone at schoold if I broke down crying or found something difficult. If you tried to make a fuss and get the attention and support you needed, they would claim that you were giving them too much grief.
English people are very cold with their feelings and care more about football than trying to Harmonise with people around them.
I have found people in Australia more open with their feelings and a bit kinder, more thoughtful and understanding. Nobody has ever called me 'thick' in Australia and if I let them know im Dyslexic they remember and treat me fairly.
Saying Hello or Good Morning and see you later seem to be too much effort for English people as well.

I know some of the things I wrote will upset people but I needed to tell this.

That's your problem there (lives in Hartlepool, used to live in Winchester).

That's your problem there (lives in Hartlepool, used to live in Winchester).

Monkey hanger.

But you're right. People in the south are all bastards. And smug ones to boot.

He the NE isn't like that.

I think this is a very unfair generalisation to make. There are many different people and places in England, you have experienced one place, I can assure you that in most of the places I have been to in England the people are not cold and uncaring! I will admit that there will be some people who are and possibly some places where a majority are but I very much resent your generalisation as I am sure that there are places in Australia where you could have experienced the exact same sort of stuff.

I also agree about the place!

I think this is a very unfair generalisation to make. There are many different people and places in England, you have experienced one place, I can assure you that in most of the places I have been to in England the people are not cold and uncaring! I will admit that there will be some people who are and possibly some places where a majority are but I very much resent your generalisation as I am sure that there are places in Australia where you could have experienced the exact same sort of stuff.


Yes in the nice bits in the north the people are excellent. But as you get further south they get worse. Once you are below the midlands it is pretty much all over.

Most of us are quite nice people, really. I think that you may have just lived somewhere unpleasant. Although bullying is a serious problem, most people I know would get involved if they saw someone being bullied.

I'm not sure about never being allowed to get angry at someone. In the past I've been treated quite badly and I've been encouraged to fight back by my mates (I tend to take a bit too much shit from people).

If people called you thick just because you're dyslexic, they probably have issues with their own intelligence. It is often true that the qualities that people hate the most are the qualities that they see in themselves (e.g. if some guy felt bad about having difficulty reading, he might have a go at you to make himself feel better).

I live in a really nice seaside town myself, so I can't really speak for the whole of England, though.

Monkey hanger.


Eh?
:confused:

Eh?
:confused:

He's from hartlepool.

They hang monkeys there.

Yes in the nice bits in the north the people are excellent. But as you get further south they get worse. Once you are below the midlands it is pretty much all over.
yep! us northerners are great! :D

Eh?
:confused:

When we were at war with the French, an abandoned French ship landed in Hartlepool. All that was on board was a single monkey. The locals (having never seen a monkey) presumed it was a French spy and proceded to interrogate it, and then to hang it when it told them nothing coherent.

Hence, Monkey Hangers (NB: I don't find this offensive, as I have no Hartlepuddlian blood or ancestry. It's damn funny).

Where was the term gentleman created errhmm Britain, i find it completly wrong that you stereotype an entire nation on one experience and actually where i live peple regularly say good morning/afternoon/night to each other even if you dont know them (i am british though so my bias may show :D)

When we were at war with the French, an abandoned French ship landed in Hartlepool. All that was on board was a single monkey. The locals (having never seen a monkey) presumed it was a French spy and proceded to interrogate it, and then to hang it when it told them nothing coherent.

Hence, Monkey Hangers (NB: I don't find this offensive, as I have no Hartlepuddlian blood or ancestry. It's damn funny).


You forgot the bit about the "trial" they held for it first.

Eh?
:confused:

I knew that someone wouldn't understand this.

Meritocratic Australia how old are you? (just for intest, if you are over 20, in 20 years places and people can change dramatically)

When we were at war with the French, an abandoned French ship landed in Hartlepool. All that was on board was a single monkey. The locals (having never seen a monkey) presumed it was a French spy and proceded to interrogate it, and then to hang it when it told them nothing coherent.

Hence, Monkey Hangers (NB: I don't find this offensive, as I have no Hartlepuddlian blood or ancestry. It's damn funny).

You live and learn...

Hang on, they actually thought that French people looked like monkeys?

Yes in the nice bits in the north the people are excellent. But as you get further south they get worse. Once you are below the midlands it is pretty much all over.

Oh, come on. Devon's brilliant, though it's difficult to buy a house there because of the influx of people moving in.
Cornwall's not as nice though.

Monkey hanger.

But you're right. People in the south are all bastards. And smug ones to boot.

He the NE isn't like that.

Oi!! :mad:
I think its a class, or money thing. I went to school in Winchester, and I too was dyslexic, and got called thick - even by the teachers - almost every day for years. Then I moved to Southampton, the larger, but much poorer, working class city neighbouring Winchester. I went to a fairly posh private school but the people there, coming from a working class town, were generally much nicer and considerate of other people than the kids in Winchester. Sure we still had our fair share of ignorant, arrogant and inconsiderate people, but they generally came from the countryside or Winchester itself!
Basically, I think posh or richer people are the type Meritocratic Australia had problems with - we're not all like that; some of us are considerate, compassionate and intelligent! And there are less of us in the South, yes.

Sounds to me like anywhere really, just a kid thing, i mean for a kid in australia, it must be the same sort of thing.
Time could also be another reason like, how schools were crap back in the 60s or 70s, didn't understand the whol dyslexia thing (sp?).

whats that about the south?!!

Cornish Pride!!! :D

I've been bullied a birt, but only in the south(Bermingham) once I came to Wharfedale I've had no trouble at all. Plus the best sport is played around here. (Rugby) I've since come to the conclusion that anyone south of Nottingham and above Jersey are buggers. Afterall the only place I've had trouble is bermingham, everywhere else I've live (Nottingham, Jersey, Lancaster, Wharfedale) I've had no problems.

Hello,

As my name suggests I live in Australia. I live near Sydney.
However I was born and raised in England. I want to talk about my experiences living there and that I would never go back to England.

I was born in Southend-on-Sea in Essex, about 1 hour drive from London. I went to school there and had an unhappy childhood. Bullying was rife and at both schoold I attended bullying was commonplace and nothing was ever done about it. I have Dyslexia and therefore had problems with reading and writing and Maths. I was called 'Thick' almost ever single day until i left school when I was 16. I attended College and sis A-levels. I have to admit I enjoyed Colege a lot more than school.
You were never allowed to be angry at how some one treated you. You were told that you should never fight no matter what someone does to you. I dont believe this anymore. Sometimes you need to fight back and use violence to get heard.
But anyway one of my problems with English people is that they dont seem to care about other people much. I never got sympathy from anyone at schoold if I broke down crying or found something difficult. If you tried to make a fuss and get the attention and support you needed, they would claim that you were giving them too much grief.
English people are very cold with their feelings and care more about football than trying to Harmonise with people around them.
I have found people in Australia more open with their feelings and a bit kinder, more thoughtful and understanding. Nobody has ever called me 'thick' in Australia and if I let them know im Dyslexic they remember and treat me fairly.
Saying Hello or Good Morning and see you later seem to be too much effort for English people as well.

I know some of the things I wrote will upset people but I needed to tell this.

Despite being English, I do understand what you're saying about the part about not being allowed to fight back. Being physically hurt is actually not as bad as the mental torture that being bullied inflicts. A friend of mine kept getting punched by this one kid, and nothing happened, until my friend fought back. My friend caused sod all damage, as his punches are, like mine, not all that hard, but he still had to do detention despite the fact that he was effectively defending himself. I was really mad about that.

Oh yeah, and I care infinitely more about people's feelings and harmonising with people around me than football. If I saw someone crying in the primary school playground (which I have done) I would assemble my friends to help them out (which I did). My problem with Australians is that they generalise too much. Or rather, that's my problem with you.

Mikorlias of Imardeavia

Oi!! :mad:
I think its a class, or money thing. I went to school in Winchester, and I too was dyslexic, and got called thick - even by the teachers - almost every day for years. Then I moved to Southampton, the larger, but much poorer, working class city neighbouring Winchester. I went to a fairly posh private school but the people there, coming from a working class town, were generally much nicer and considerate of other people than the kids in Winchester. Sure we still had our fair share of ignorant, arrogant and inconsiderate people, but they generally came from the countryside or Winchester itself!
Basically, I think posh or richer people are the type Meritocratic Australia had problems with - we're not all like that; some of us are considerate, compassionate and intelligent! And there are less of us in the South, yes.

I suppose I can't really say much - I'm as middle class as they come.

Oh, come on. Devon's brilliant, though it's difficult to buy a house there because of the influx of people moving in.
Cornwall's not as nice though.


Isn't devon the place where you all call visitors "grockles" or something behind their backs. Real nice.

At least a Geordie will call you a shandy drinker to your face, and in fun.

Hey, was the semi-posh Southampton school you went to called King Edwards by any chance?

I'm at Sixth Form there.

Isn't devon the place where you all call visitors "grockles" or something behind their backs. Real nice.

At least a Geordie will call you a shandy drinker to your face, and in fun.
We all hate torists behind there backs here to.

Mmmmyep, I know exactly what you went through, Meritocratic. Goes to show that kids are jerks no matter what continent you're on. I spent pretty much my entire life as the brunt of at least one bully's agression. It wasn't like I provoked any form of attack, I was just an easy target. Nobody seemed to give a damn, either. Not even the teachers. Plus, this was the period during which I was doped up to the eyeballs on anti-depressants 24/7 (don't ya just admire modern psychiatry?), in which case I just didn't have the heart to bring it to my mentors' attentions.

But then again, I live in possibly the worst area in the entire US: Northern Virginia. I'm right between the cousin kissing descendents of the KKK and the angry, Malcolm X-fueled "Ghetto" people. So, I don't really think I can expect any joy and happiness from this region, and I'll bet the same thing happened to you. Sounds to me like your parents just made a really big error when they decided on the region in which to move.

Hello,

As my name suggests I live in Australia. I live near Sydney.
However I was born and raised in England. I want to talk about my experiences living there and that I would never go back to England.

I was born in Southend-on-Sea in Essex, about 1 hour drive from London. I went to school there and had an unhappy childhood. Bullying was rife and at both schoold I attended bullying was commonplace and nothing was ever done about it. I have Dyslexia and therefore had problems with reading and writing and Maths. I was called 'Thick' almost ever single day until i left school when I was 16. I attended College and sis A-levels. I have to admit I enjoyed Colege a lot more than school.
You were never allowed to be angry at how some one treated you. You were told that you should never fight no matter what someone does to you. I dont believe this anymore. Sometimes you need to fight back and use violence to get heard.
But anyway one of my problems with English people is that they dont seem to care about other people much. I never got sympathy from anyone at schoold if I broke down crying or found something difficult. If you tried to make a fuss and get the attention and support you needed, they would claim that you were giving them too much grief.
English people are very cold with their feelings and care more about football than trying to Harmonise with people around them.
I have found people in Australia more open with their feelings and a bit kinder, more thoughtful and understanding. Nobody has ever called me 'thick' in Australia and if I let them know im Dyslexic they remember and treat me fairly.
Saying Hello or Good Morning and see you later seem to be too much effort for English people as well.

I know some of the things I wrote will upset people but I needed to tell this.

Firstly I would like to say that all generalisations are dangerous (except that one). Secondly I would like to refute what you are saying. I am English and have Aspergers syndrome. When I was in Primary school I too had a problem with bullying. I got lots of attention though from concerned teachers and helpers and they were willing to talk to me about it. They were however not prepared to just talk to me and listen to me, they drove me to overcome it not with vilonce but by rising above it. I did so and am now much better for it. I think you had a nasty experiance but I dont think it is nessecary to label an entire country because of it.

I have the same problem. Kid's make fun of me then I just find something that makes them unique and I try and destroy it. Filthy mother fuking kids. Need all a fucking shower. Have you actually looked in some of their hair? I tell you know a few days ago I swear I saw a cornflake!

We all hate torists behind there backs here to.

Also nice.

More evidence for my theory.

Thats just kids for ya, snotty nosed lillte twats. Theres always a bully in the crowd thats just life, i mean im sure most people have at some point or another been bullied or come across someone being bullied in a playground situation. Its part of growing up.

Isn't devon the place where you all call visitors "grockles" or something behind their backs. Real nice.

At least a Geordie will call you a shandy drinker to your face, and in fun.

hey! we call them grockles to their faces too! Its not nasty it's just in fun too!

Isn't devon the place where you all call visitors "grockles" or something behind their backs. Real nice.

At least a Geordie will call you a shandy drinker to your face, and in fun.

Nah. We call chavs "Townies", though. Personally I'm more of a cider drinker, by the way. Although I don't have a brand new combine harvester.

Surely we can be forgiven for hating tourists, because they're so damn annoying. I have nothing against visitors, but people who wander around compaining about how different everything is and refusing to comprehend the most simple things about our nation are just unbearable. I should know, I lived the first 15 years of my life in Haworth, one of the most touristy towns in the country, then the next few in York, which was like the same thing but bigger.

Besides, we English know how annoying tourists can be - we can be the worst ones!

Nah. We call chavs "Townies", though. Personally I'm more of a cider drinker, by the way. Although I don't have a brand new combine harvester.

I had never heard of townes being called chavs till a couple moths ago.
Is your combine harvester getting a bit old then?
Well anyway time to go eat some custard. . . 'Ooh arrrr it's ambrosia ooh arrrrr where the sheep go baarrrrr

Surely we can be forgiven for hating tourists, because they're so damn annoying. I have nothing against visitors, but people who wander around compaining about how different everything is and refusing to comprehend the most simple things about our nation are just unbearable. I should know, I lived the first 15 years of my life in Haworth, one of the most touristy towns in the country, then the next few in York, which was like the same thing but bigger.

Besides, we English know how annoying tourists can be - we can be the worst ones!

The annoying thing is when they walk in massive groups of about twenty or so all moving soooo slowly and you can't overtake them cos there are just so frickin many of them.

Nah. We call chavs "Townies", though. Personally I'm more of a cider drinker, by the way. Although I don't have a brand new combine harvester.


It this some obscure wurzel reference ??

Surely we can be forgiven for hating tourists, because they're so damn annoying. I have nothing against visitors, but people who wander around compaining about how different everything is and refusing to comprehend the most simple things about our nation are just unbearable. I should know, I lived the first 15 years of my life in Haworth, one of the most touristy towns in the country, then the next few in York, which was like the same thing but bigger.

Besides, we English know how annoying tourists can be - we can be the worst ones!


No tourists in newcastle and surrounding areas. Well none worth mentioning anyway.

You would think though that all these little rinky-dink towns that rely on tourism to survive would be nicer to them though.

Hey, was the semi-posh Southampton school you went to called King Edwards by any chance?

I'm at Sixth Form there.

lmao! No fuckin way! That's the one!
Im Huw, tho u probably dont remember me - I was one of the fat ones lol. I left 2 years ago, now at Cardiff Uni studying Politics.

Hello,

As my name suggests I live in Australia. I live near Sydney.
However I was born and raised in England. I want to talk about my experiences living there and that I would never go back to England.

I was born in Southend-on-Sea in Essex, about 1 hour drive from London. I went to school there and had an unhappy childhood. Bullying was rife and at both schoold I attended bullying was commonplace and nothing was ever done about it. I have Dyslexia and therefore had problems with reading and writing and Maths. I was called 'Thick' almost ever single day until i left school when I was 16. I attended College and sis A-levels. I have to admit I enjoyed Colege a lot more than school.
You were never allowed to be angry at how some one treated you. You were told that you should never fight no matter what someone does to you. I dont believe this anymore. Sometimes you need to fight back and use violence to get heard.
But anyway one of my problems with English people is that they dont seem to care about other people much. I never got sympathy from anyone at schoold if I broke down crying or found something difficult. If you tried to make a fuss and get the attention and support you needed, they would claim that you were giving them too much grief.
English people are very cold with their feelings and care more about football than trying to Harmonise with people around them.
I have found people in Australia more open with their feelings and a bit kinder, more thoughtful and understanding. Nobody has ever called me 'thick' in Australia and if I let them know im Dyslexic they remember and treat me fairly.
Saying Hello or Good Morning and see you later seem to be too much effort for English people as well.

I know some of the things I wrote will upset people but I needed to tell this.

SIR,
I myself am English, and residence in Essex, and I have a number of responses to your complaints and generalisations about the English people.

i) These problems are school and area specific. Southend-On-Sea is a rough old place, and am somewhat puzzled as to, if you were in such abject misery as you describe, you did not change school or complain. I cannot believe you received no help with your dyslexia, as your post implies (though forgive me if i am wrong); and frankly I do not believe one should judge the character of the English people on the children at oen school.
ii) The English have what has been termed a "negative-politeness" culture; this is not being impolite, as the term may be misconstrued; rather, it is a culture in which peopel do not force themselves on one another. The English are a generally (comparatively) reserved people, and more concerned wiht privacy than many other nations. They do not wish to be accosted by strangers, and do strangers the same favour, regardless of their feelings on the matter.
iii)On the grounds of not sympathising and comforting you when you are down, it is often sometimes considered impolite to do such a thing, causing yet more embarassment in the victim over causing too much of a fuss.

Thank you for your time, if you read this.

The annoying thing is when they walk in massive groups of about twenty or so all moving soooo slowly and you can't overtake them cos there are just so frickin many of them.

What's worse is when they stand blocking the pavement, chatting to someone. I tell you, they wouldn't move if there was a steamroller coming their way. [/rant]

It this some obscure wurzel reference ??

The Wurzels? Obscure?

*storms off*

No tourists in newcastle and surrounding areas. Well none worth mentioning anyway.

You would think though that all these little rinky-dink towns that rely on tourism to survive would be nicer to them though.

Hey! its easy to get annoyed with tourists, but if we say anything to their faces we are accused of trying to drive them away and if we say anything behind their backs, we are called two faced bastards. We can't win.
How the hell are we supposed to vent our frustration?

SIR,
I myself am English, and residence in Essex, and I have a number of responses to your complaints and generalisations about the English people.

i) These problems are school and area specific. Southend-On-Sea is a rough old place, and am somewhat puzzled as to, if you were in such abject misery as you describe, you did not change school or complain. I cannot believe you received no help with your dyslexia, as your post implies (though forgive me if i am wrong); and frankly I do not believe one should judge the character of the English people on the children at oen school.
ii) The English have what has been termed a "negative-politeness" culture; this is not being impolite, as the term may be misconstrued; rather, it is a culture in which peopel do not force themselves on one another. The English are a generally (comparatively) reserved people, and more concerned wiht privacy than many other nations. They do not wish to be accosted by strangers, and do strangers the same favour, regardless of their feelings on the matter.
iii)On the grounds of not sympathising and comforting you when you are down, it is often sometimes considered impolite to do such a thing, causing yet more embarassment in the victim over causing too much of a fuss.

Thank you for your time, if you read this.


Shandy drinker.

No tourists in newcastle and surrounding areas. Well none worth mentioning anyway.

You would think though that all these little rinky-dink towns that rely on tourism to survive would be nicer to them though.

Oh, believe me, if you'd lived in one, you wouldn't be saying that. :| It's awful.

You would think though that all these little rinky-dink towns that rely on tourism to survive would be nicer to them though.

I think you'll find that Teignmouth is the jewel of the South-West - our sign says so!

Hey! its easy to get annoyed with tourists, but if we say anything to their faces we are accused of trying to drive them away and if we say anything behind their backs, we are called two faced bastards. We can't win.
How the hell are we supposed to vent our frustration?
Beat them with sticks. That's how I deal with 'em. Dirty foreigners (severe sarcasm).

Really, I just try and be helpful. I only beat that italian guy with a stick because he called me a short arse prick and said he'd screwed my sister (got hold of a crass phrasebook). And it wasn't so much a stick as a cricket bat.

well i can't really say much about tourists, they make up pretty much all the income of Cornwall lol, with all the caravan parks and all lol
though i do hate how on occasions you see tourists who buy a good old traditional Cornish Pasty and ask what it is!! i mean come on!! it must be one of the most famous things from cornwall! and they come here on holiday and don't know what it is!!!! ridiculous..

On another note, did anyone hear about Birminghams latest favourite new drink: Creme du Menthe Shandy. I almost puked at the thought of it

I think you'll find that Teignmouth is the jewel of the South-West - our sign says so!

Well that is a fantastic argument! *muses* yes I like teignmouth it is pretty.
Much better than Torquay, maybe you could take all our tourists too?

I think you'll find that Teignmouth is the jewel of the South-West - our sign says so!


I've been there. !!!!!!

Beer or nowt thank you.
Also, is this not a tad off topic?

well i can't really say much about tourists, they make up pretty much all the income of Cornwall lol, with all the caravan parks and all lol
though i do hate how on occasions you see tourists who buy a good old traditional Cornish Pasty and ask what it is!! i mean come on!! it must be one of the most famous things from cornwall! and they come here on holiday and don't know what it is!!!! ridiculous..

My sisters boyfriend has never had a cream tea with clotted cream before he came down to devon. I can't believe that people eat it with, (said in disgust) whipped cream.

Beer or nowt thank you.
Also, is this not a tad off topic?


It's a proven fact that people from Essex drink shandy.

Teignmouth ... never been there lol nor heard of it hehe
been to torquay though
ever been to Truro?

It's a proven fact that people from Essex drink shandy.

Im partial to a bit of Cider maself

Well that is a fantastic argument! *muses* yes I like teignmouth it is pretty.
Much better than Torquay, maybe you could take all our tourists too?

We've got plenty, thank you. Do you reckon it would be an improvement if you got rid of all the tourists, then? I didn't think of Torquay as much of a tourist town.

Teignmouth ... never been there lol nor heard of it hehe
been to torquay though
ever been to Truro?

I have! and im going again for an audition in january

Mean-spirited and cold . . . I see.

Firstly, in response to this thread's original post, I consider it blatantly unfair that an entire nation and culture should be categorized as being one which does not offer sympathy, compassion, or support.

Children are (on average, and usually only with other children) hateful monsters who represent absolute selfishness in any given situation - I am not surprised that you were teased and taunted, but I would expect it to have been the same for everyone; it seems to be the same everywhere (although I have not been everywhere).

A very dear friend of mine (since childhood) was born and raised in England, and is the very essence of lovingkindness - definitely the nicest person I have ever met. I can't recall ever hearing her say anything rude, unkind, or in any way embarassing; nor can I recall her ever being unsympathetic to someone else's needs and being cold.

I know other people from the U.K. who are also quite friendly. Bare in mind that the same condition exists in the U.S.A., and I would be extremely surprised if it didn't exist in Australia too. (By the way, I would love to go there.)

Thank you.

We've got plenty, thank you. Do you reckon it would be an improvement if you got rid of all the tourists, then? I didn't think of Torquay as much of a tourist town.

have you not seen the number of hotels!!!
It might get rid of some of the bloody traffic. Especially through Kingskerswell.

If we're going to have idiotic stereotypes, do you not think that drinking shandy is incongruous with Essex boys and Essex girls?

My sisters boyfriend has never had a cream tea with clotted cream before he came down to devon. I can't believe that people eat it with, (said in disgust) whipped cream.

Ugh, clotted cream. Isn't that one of those things that only the tourists eat, like sheep's eyeballs?
By the way, DeaconDave, I'm glad you visited Teignmouth. If you come again, I recommend The Nautilus, though it tends to be fully booked.

I think it would be best to start a new thread for this tourism thing, though. We've pretty thoroughly hijacked poor Meritocratic Australia's thread!

have you not seen the number of hotels!!!
It might get rid of some of the bloody traffic. Especially through Kingskerswell.

To be honest, I hardly ever visit it. I go to Exeter for shopping, Newton Abbot for the Youth Council (until recently I was a youth councillor) and I live in Teignmouth.
I think Dawlish could do with a few more visitors, though.

cream with Tea? What's wrong with Milk?!

Right, I've started a "South-west" thread because it's not really very nice to stray from the intended subject of this thread so blatantly. So, if anyone wants to chat about tourists, regional politics, cream tea, whatever...

cream with Tea? What's wrong with Milk?!

Nooooo. I mean in a devon cream tea. which is made of two scones with jam and clotted cream and a cup of tea

To be honest, I hardly ever visit it. I go to Exeter for shopping, Newton Abbot for the Youth Council (until recently I was a youth councillor) and I live in Teignmouth.
I think Dawlish could do with a few more visitors, though.

You have to go through kingskerswell in that case.

Nooooo. I mean in a devon cream tea. which is made of two scones with jam and clotted cream and a cup of tea

ah... that sounds nice.
tho this should be in "The South West (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=377207)". Sorry.

It's a proven fact that people from Essex drink shandy.
Palpable nonsense. A pint of lager for the gentleman and a glass of white wine for his good lady. Bicardi breezers for the kids.

SIR,
I myself am English, and residence in Essex, and I have a number of responses to your complaints and generalisations about the English people.

i) These problems are school and area specific. Southend-On-Sea is a rough old place, and am somewhat puzzled as to, if you were in such abject misery as you describe, you did not change school or complain. I cannot believe you received no help with your dyslexia, as your post implies (though forgive me if i am wrong); and frankly I do not believe one should judge the character of the English people on the children at oen school.

Thank you for your time, if you read this.
Hi,
I did try to explain to my parents about my problems but they didnt understand. Who listens to a kid?
When my family moved to Southend their was a Primary School more and less oppositeour house. Unfortunately when my parents enrolled me their was not enough spaces left to start from the first year. So my parents had the brilliant idea of enrolling me in the second year where there was space.
I didnt get any formal help until secondary school-although the most help i got was lunch passes to skip the cue at lunch time!
Maybe i have generalised but all my experiences with England come from living until I was 20 in Essex. i have been here in Sydney for 6 years now and if i ever had to go back I wouldnt go back to Southend!

Too true. Nobody gives a rat's ass about children these days.

The worst tourists are those that suddenly slow down in the middle of the road ato look at something, thus causing a tarrfic jam.

And the Decension, don't get me started about that.....

Whoever started this pure flame thread needs a good kick up the arse.

Monkey hanger.

But you're right. People in the south are all bastards. And smug ones to boot.

He the NE isn't like that.

It's that attitude that got me years of "cockney wanker" and "southern poof" when I moved up here with my parents. Thanks a lot!

Trust me, people in the North can be just as bastardly. I think I pissed a few off when I started calling them scousers though. I'm just as much a cockney as someone from Manchester is a scouser. http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/images/icons/icon10.gif

It seems to have calmed down somewhat since people grew up though. The genuine wankers are either in prison or have zero respect from anyone, so that's all good. I think the originator of this thread just had a few bad experiences with evil children. We're really not that bad!

Honest!

Now, where did that cat o' nine tails go, there's some kids outside having fun and disturbing me...