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USA vs North Korea

Namaland
26-11-2004, 20:10
If the US invaded north korea what would happen?
Spurland
26-11-2004, 20:11
US would loose.
Johnistan
26-11-2004, 20:12
The North Korean army would be destroyed.
Stroudiztan
26-11-2004, 20:17
WW3. Sounds fun to me!
The True Right
26-11-2004, 20:19
US would loose.


I don't think we'd "loose". BTW I never was in prison so I never got loose.

Anywho, China has way too much to lose if they got involved. Heck they might even want us to invade as long as we let them help, and agree the people would select their own government. Stability in the area would ensure their financial growth. The people of NK would stop starving to death for once.
Katganistan
26-11-2004, 20:20
I'd be surprised if the US did invade North Korea.
Johnistan
26-11-2004, 20:23
China wouldn't care if NK was invaded by the US. China sees Kim as much of a loose cannon as the US does.
Namaland
26-11-2004, 20:23
I'd be surprised if the US did invade North Korea.
so would i but at one time before we invaded iraq it was a total possiblity, so i was just wondering what other people thought about a war in north korea
Tactical Grace
26-11-2004, 20:23
North and South Korea would be mutually destroyed, China would sue the US for fallout damages, and the UN would probably say fuck it and disband.
Terranah
26-11-2004, 20:25
We would go in, they would use their overwhelming numbers and kick us out and take the rest if the damned peninsula.
Terranah
26-11-2004, 20:27
I meant OF.
IncognitoX
26-11-2004, 20:33
what a bunch of ignorant bullshit. If the US attacked North Korea nukes will get used and North Korea will cease to exist. They have maybe 5 nukes. Nukes which are small and obsolete by American or Russian/Chinese standards.

They might be able to lob one to Alaska if in fact Kim decided to say "screw it, lets do this" North Korea has nothing to win by actually using one though. His threat if larger if he mearly threatens to use one. Once the deed is done all bets are off and America would be within thier rights to level the place.

War is not supposed to be antisceptic or clean. In WWII we killed men, women, children, cats, dogs, goldfish, everything.

War should be something that you really want to avoid. Damn smart weapons are great sure but war should be sloppy, messy, deadly for everyone involved.

Besides Iran is going to be the bigger problem anyway.

Seriously doubt that if America decided to attack Korea, that America would lose. And fuck China, They would complain but they don't want to fight a pissed off US either.

The UN needs to disband. Corrupt, ineffectual group that it is.
Namaland
26-11-2004, 20:35
We would go in, they would use their overwhelming numbers and kick us out and take the rest if the damned peninsula.
overwhelming numbers? i mean really how many peopl edoes north korea have? the US has liek the 4th largest population in the world
The Peoples Pride
26-11-2004, 20:43
America will not invade as Nk has nukes

however if they did

weapons fly both ways america is ripped apart on the world stage for dfoing such a thing to an introvert nation and pulls out in disgrace

if they continue china will back nk ww3 starts and the us is raped.
Sunkite Islands
26-11-2004, 20:45
America is too afraid to attack NK. NK was testing nukes in the sky whilst America speculated that Iraq "may" have WMDs, and that was cause for invasion. NK is unassailable, as King Jong-Il is a psychopath with a shitload of nukes aimed at every country he doesn't like.
Erehwon Forest
26-11-2004, 20:48
overwhelming numbers? i mean really how many peopl edoes north korea have? the US has liek the 4th largest population in the worldThe North Korean standing army is, what, 1.2 million? Of course the US has a far greater population, but how many soldiers could it realistically send at first? For the US alone to send a numerically superior force into North Korea, NK would pretty much have to fire some nukes. For comparison, "As of mid-April 2004 the number of troops in the Central Command Area of Responsibility [for Operation Iraqi Freedom, in Iraq and neighboring countries] was officially estimated at between 200,00 and 225,000 total." (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_orbat.htm)

This is only in response to Namaland's post, not at all a comment on the probability of the conflict or the outcome of such a fictional conflict.
The Peoples Pride
26-11-2004, 20:49
omg your so stupid

So you think because america has a big population it will oputnumber NK on home turf?

what you gonna do chopper in your entire population you fucking stupid yeeharing cock

your military is a hell of a lot less than the population of NK.

and china is over 1/6 of the worlds population so if any war occurs china will be way ahead. Nukes sent to cuba which then rips open the us


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Sorry for being offensive i got very frustrated at the ignorance of some people.
Gladdis
26-11-2004, 21:05
first off. before the u.s ever invades nk china would whip their ass...seeing as how the nukes nk are developing can't reach the u.s. china is the one that has to worry about a lunatic with nukes...and china would back the u.s. if it ever came to it. they rely far to heavily on u.s. money.
Gladdis
26-11-2004, 21:10
omg your so stupid

So you think because america has a big population it will oputnumber NK on home turf?

what you gonna do chopper in your entire population you fucking stupid yeeharing cock

your military is a hell of a lot less than the population of NK.

and china is over 1/6 of the worlds population so if any war occurs china will be way ahead. Nukes sent to cuba which then rips open the us


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Sorry for being offensive i got very frustrated at the ignorance of some people.


dude if the u.s were to invade china it would not come down to troop numbers..before one u.s. person set foot on nk soil there would be weeks if not months of missiles and bombs setting foot on nk soil....air force and navy have extensive amounts of missiles and bombs...and nk would never be able to make it to the u.s. too attack anyone...they will i think start hurlling nukes around the area they could reach..china, japan, sk..which would spur those countries to assisst in the obliteration of nk..thanx
Sensible Human
26-11-2004, 21:43
The might of the world's most powerful air and navy rips apart any "homeground" turf the Koreans have unless they start placing human shields around their bases (and lord knows they would, damn bastards) before a single US soldier has to step foot on their soil.

Of course, SK's capital is a bombed-out crater thanks to 11,000+ artillery pieces aimed at it, unless we want to take all of those out with nukes or massive air strikes
Gladdis
26-11-2004, 21:54
The might of the world's most powerful air and navy rips apart any "homeground" turf the Koreans have unless they start placing human shields around their bases (and lord knows they would, damn bastards) before a single US soldier has to step foot on their soil.

Of course, SK's capital is a bombed-out crater thanks to 11,000+ artillery pieces aimed at it, unless we want to take all of those out with nukes or massive air strikes

i gotta agree nk would use human shields..but once they started whipping artillerry around the region and taking lives in sk the world at large might suck it up enogh to understand the necesary loss of life of the aforementioned human shields...also with nukes flying around the region china would step in and we know they could give a shit less about human life or international opinion..hell they run their on people down with tanks for non-violent protests..just imagine what they would do to koreans in an actual military offensive
Namaland
26-11-2004, 22:03
would china step in? i mean are they interested in anyone elses prosperity other than their own, i mean u say they are dependant on the american dollar, but they export to a hell of alot of other nations as well. i think chinas well on its way to become the worlds next super power
Gladdis
26-11-2004, 22:10
would china step in? i mean are they interested in anyone elses prosperity other than their own, i mean u say they are dependant on the american dollar, but they export to a hell of alot of other nations as well. i think chinas well on its way to become the worlds next super power

they do have the potential to be a super-power..land, population, money,weaponry..they are semi-capitalist so they got money and financial connections. I think they need to open themselves up more to the rest of the world before they can become a sustainable super-power tho..
as far as not intervening..i just gotta think that the instant they saw nk was crazy enough to launch a nuke they would not want to run the risk that the next was aimed at them..i think that would spur them into action
Sapex
26-11-2004, 22:20
I think that the US would win because of the fact they have superior technology. They have better nukes, planes, equipment for soldiers and etc. Even though I don't think it'll ever happen, I do think the US would win.
Helioterra
26-11-2004, 22:45
what a bunch of ignorant bullshit. If the US attacked North Korea nukes will get used and North Korea will cease to exist. They have maybe 5 nukes. Nukes which are small and obsolete by American or Russian/Chinese standards.


Why you assume that they would try to bomb US? I quess that if US attacks NK will attack South Korea. Kim might be insane but he's not stupid enough to attack US.
Sgt Peppers LHCB
27-11-2004, 01:34
You are all idiots, NK has a horribly trained army and they are all very hungry, but better fed then the people, who would mostly flock to the US troops, there would be guerrilla warfare, with the nutjobs who actually like Jong-Il, North Korean would probably nuke itself to kill us but they would just wipe out that peninsula, if they had time, the US army would kick so much butt that Jong-Il would probably just go berserk and start pushing things up his ass. While half the army surrendered to us knowing we would win and they hate Jong-Il, another 1/3 would run away and the remaining 16% would fight and within minutes be destroyed. Who knows what China would do, if we had UN aproval the UN and US allies would rip apart China and NK, if we didnt have UN approval, We would have to spread troops within China and NK, but after awhile we would amerge victorious, but many many troops would be dead.
Sgt Peppers LHCB
27-11-2004, 01:39
omg your so stupid

So you think because america has a big population it will oputnumber NK on home turf?

what you gonna do chopper in your entire population you fucking stupid yeeharing cock

your military is a hell of a lot less than the population of NK.

and china is over 1/6 of the worlds population so if any war occurs china will be way ahead. Nukes sent to cuba which then rips open the us


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Sorry for being offensive i got very frustrated at the ignorance of some people.

No your so stupid, the Iraqi population outnumbers us, and we are winning, I dont support this war dont get me wrong, but there is guerrilla warfare, there would be a lot less guerrilla warfare because half of NK is starving and over 3/4 hate Jong-Il, if you think even half of the NK army would fight your wrong, no, Cuba is smarter now, they would take no part, if they did our intelligence would report it than the UN would help us and tear apart all oposing countries.
Armed Bookworms
27-11-2004, 01:47
The might of the world's most powerful air and navy rips apart any "homeground" turf the Koreans have unless they start placing human shields around their bases (and lord knows they would, damn bastards) before a single US soldier has to step foot on their soil.

Of course, SK's capital is a bombed-out crater thanks to 11,000+ artillery pieces aimed at it, unless we want to take all of those out with nukes or massive air strikes
Even with nukes and air strikes there would be severe SK civvie casualties.
The eternal-dragons
27-11-2004, 02:10
You fools copied my thread.......... :mad:
Unaha-Closp
27-11-2004, 02:25
China does not want am invasion to occur in the neighbourhood. So no invasion will happen.
Imperial Puerto Rico
27-11-2004, 03:16
China sees Kim as a loose cannon. I wouldn't be suprised if China was the one to invade NK but it won't happen.

To be realistic, this is what will happen. US invades NK and then China invades Taiwan.

That's the answer and I'm willing to bet everything I have. China will respond by invading Taiwan.