NationStates Jolt Archive

I see lot of war threads, but I think that one is new.
not like most of the other "war threads", this could happen.

so now let's say some jewish radicals explode the temple mount (they want to, maybe they did). from that situation war is about minutes to start.
and when the fire start and burn the middle east, when all the world see the fights on life and death, when it over and only one nation will stay on the holy land:
who would it be?
Israel with the technology and her glory history of victories against the arabs? (USA will stay neutral for now)
or the arabs with their huge amount of soldiers, suciders and supporter through the world, and also the israeli arab who could help them attac from inside?

If the US stays neutral on it, I'd say the Arabs would win. Israel would put up one hell of a fight, but, in the end, I'd say Arab victory.

Now ... if the US got involved ... Japan would win.

If the US stays neutral on it, I'd say the Arabs would win. Israel would put up one hell of a fight, but, in the end, I'd say Arab victory.

Now ... if the US got involved ... Japan would win.

The IDF is the most experienced Army in the world and the best equipped in the world...

Israel has also proven that it can take on the Arab world and win so I think they would easily win in another war against the Arabs.

Depends. If they can conjure up the same ammount of luck or 'devine intervention' like they did before in certain wars. :D, if not, theoretically they could be screwed.

But Isreal have nukes.

Plus, the temple on the mount, I think it's sooner or later going to collapse. I don't know how true, but my friend told me that the Jewish Wailing wall, the water that oozes out of the wall? It's from some underground stream and the ground where the temple is, would most likely collapse sooner or later. :p

Well when you say US is "neutral" do you mean merely not directly militarily involved, or do you mean the current US "neutrality" whereby we provide Israel with the wherewithal to feed their war machine?

In either case, the Israelis have the military advantage, probably without even using nukes.

i think that teh arabs would win, sur the israils have won before and they have better technology, but the wars that they have won havent been against the all the arab nations, the arabs simply have so many ppl compared to the isralies, it sliek china versus the US, sure the US is advanced bit china had 2 billion ppl, u cant much about that, they just keep coming

i think that teh arabs would win, sur the israils have won before and they have better technology, but the wars that they have won havent been against the all the arab nations, the arabs simply have so many ppl compared to the isralies, it sliek china versus the US, sure the US is advanced bit china had 2 billion ppl, u cant much about that, they just keep coming


Ahh didnt Isreal win a war VS syria, egypt, jordan, lebs, palestine and the saudis? What other arbas are der lol.

The Arabs would get completly destoryed. If this was all out war, the normal terrorist tactics wouldnt apply as isreal would basically wipe out any and all arabs and not have to worry about public opinion. Wouldnt even be close, would even take long either....

Israel will always win, because the Arabs seek an impure reason to destroy the Israelies.

Whether or not you want to believe that God intervenes, whether or not you want to believe that there is a force protecting them, the Israelis will always have something important to fight for, that they will do so to the last man.

The Israelies are fighting for their very existence, the Arabs are fighting to destroy that existence. The PLO-IDF conflict has nothing to do with land, it has to do with the complete extermination of the Jewish race.

i think that teh arabs would win, sur the israils have won before and they have better technology, but the wars that they have won havent been against the all the arab nations, the arabs simply have so many ppl compared to the isralies, it sliek china versus the US, sure the US is advanced bit china had 2 billion ppl, u cant much about that, they just keep coming

Israel took on the entire Arab world in 6 days...

O.k., so you think I srael could easily win in neutral world.
but what will be if the world is not neutral.
still USA is neutral- in whole the previous threads her side always win. I want "fair fight", so for now she out.
but than, what side europe will go?
what actions the islamic world will do?
and how it affect on terror attacks through the world?

Israel took on the entire Arab world in 6 days...

/agrees and the tatics arabs use when confronted with overwhelming force would not work in a total war.

Using women + children as shields? Dont matter blam
Hiding out in mosques? Dont matter blam
Hiding out with non combantants? dont matter, blam

Isreal could probably conquer the entire region if it could kick out or kill the population.

Although I doubt that the European nations would go to war because Isreal is at war, maybe US might intervene, and so to those other muslim nations.

But we may never know actually. Europe has alot of muslims now, don't know if that would eventually effect the government. (doubt it would though).China is neutral, Russia seems neutral. What else? Japan? Nah.

Good question. Concerning terrorism. The world terrorism would go ballistic though. We'll see tons of bombings in all the muslim countries, and maybe Europe and America. Maybe.

Using women + children as shields? Dont matter blam
Hiding out in mosques? Dont matter blam
Hiding out with non combantants? dont matter, blam.

Thats right. :) Not like USA and follow by the geneva conventions crap.

This is a stupid question because it's been answered many times.

Israel took on the Arab world 3 times and won big each time. Today it would be no different, even with Egyptian and Saudi Abrams.

The IDF is the most experienced Army in the world and the best equipped in the world...


Mmhmm ... that may be ... but I feel their cockiness would be their downfall.

Just look at the US.

"We're the greatest military force on the planet and have the best trained soldiers anywhere! This Iraq thing? Pfft ... 3 weeks ... tops!"

And yet ... somehow ... it continues.

I think Israel would win!! hands down!! They have nuclear weapon and the arab dos not. a coupple of big booms and Arabs will submit. or they would be nuts and a coupple of more and we will have a new Israel that no one would f*** with again...

I think Israel would win!! hands down!! They have nuclear weapon and the arab dos not.

So ... ok ... what happens if Iran sides with the Arabs. Iran is very close to having - if they don't already have - nuclear weaponry.

Or do you think Iran would side with Israel ....

Israel took on the entire Arab world in 6 days...
not neccessariyl, you forget there are countries like iraq and iran that would join on the arab side and the pakistanis are all for teh arabs and they have nukes

So ... ok ... what happens if Iran sides with the Arabs. Iran is very close to having - if they don't already have - nuclear weaponry.

Or do you think Iran would side with Israel ....


Iran would be a joke against isreal, a few bombs and no more nuke making in iran.

Personally, I think isreal WILL bomb iran in the near future. I mean do you want bloody iran to get its hands on nukes? YIKES

I see lot of war threads, but I think that one is new.
not like most of the other "war threads", this could happen.

so now let's say some jewish radicals explode the temple mount (they want to, maybe they did). from that situation war is about minutes to start.
and when the fire start and burn the middle east, when all the world see the fights on life and death, when it over and only one nation will stay on the holy land:
who would it be?
According to a scary 20% of Americans, the one nation remaining would be the Kingdom of God. Because the destruction of the Temple Mount would lead to the nuclear annihilation of Israel, inevitably followed by the Rapture, and the events described in the Book of Revelations.

not neccessariyl, you forget there are countries like iraq and iran that would join on the arab side and the pakistanis are all for teh arabs and they have nukes


im pretty sure the states would pressure the pakis to remain neutral. :rolleyes:

Mmhmm ... that may be ... but I feel their cockiness would be their downfall.

Just look at the US.

"We're the greatest military force on the planet and have the best trained soldiers anywhere! This Iraq thing? Pfft ... 3 weeks ... tops!"

And yet ... somehow ... it continues.
that right, but I don't talk on the "after war situation".
I talk about who win the war, and in war terror can't help very much.
even after the war will finish, I believe that tha arab will agree to peace for some conquerd lands, but I always to optimic.

Yom Kippur war. The IDF held, but took heavy casualties. Should an attrition war insue for long (the war lasted 3 weeks) it is doubtful that Israel could hold.

Should a war start now, assuming full neutrality of everyone in the world, and no use of nukes, i'd say that israel would loose. They would take alot of Arabs down, the IDF IS the best army in the world, but they would be swarmed by the Egyptians, the Syrians, the Saudi. Remember that the Saudi have got some nice equipment from the US. And Israel itself, is a small country, i.e., its easy to invade.

Personally, I think isreal WILL bomb iran in the near future. I mean do you want bloody iran to get its hands on nukes? YIKES

I'm just as comfortable with Iran having nukes as I am the US having them.

If the US stays neutral on it, I'd say the Arabs would win. Israel would put up one hell of a fight, but, in the end, I'd say Arab victory.

Now ... if the US got involved ... Japan would win.

...Are you forgetting the 6 days war all those years ago? Virtually the entire Arab world took on Israel, Israel sent them running back to their hidey-holes! And fair play to them! Such an action on the Arabs' part does not paint them favourably in my eyes. It was cowardly, Jihadist bullying, and they paid for it. If Israel wanted to, they could kick their arses well and truly into the middle of next... whatever! Basically, Israel is definitely not to be trifled with, and if those fools thought about that for one second, then they would know that they should leave them well alone. The Jews have suffered enough persecution, for Christ's sake. I completely understand them not taking sh1t from anyone else.

...Are you forgetting the 6 days war all those years ago?


Of course not. I also remember the fact that it was "all those years ago" and know that Israel has gotten a lot more cocky lately. Japan was the same way, incapable of losing any conflict, until Pearl Harbor. It doesn't take much to drop a "tough guy" down a peg or two. Israel is becoming the bully of the middle east and most of us don't care much for bullies.

The Jews have suffered enough persecution, for Christ's sake. I completely understand them not taking sh1t from anyone else.

Yes ... I am aware of this as well ... I am a Jew. However, "not taking shit from" and "blowing up a mosque" are not the same thing. The original question involved Israeli fanatics blowing up the temple mount.

I'm just as comfortable with Iran having nukes as I am the US having them.


Are you on fucking CRACK? Im not a huge PRO Usa ~ isreal guy but IRAN is a terrorist state. ITs state controls are really crummy. It would not be crazy to think they would "leak" a nuke to a leb or plo group for use in isreal!

umm..israelis didn't take on the whole arab world in 6 days... Indonesia is actually the biggest Islamic nation..go look it up..and the IDF is not the best trained/equipped army in the world unless you compare it to the Arabs. Israel does actually belong to the Arabs, though, cause Israel was created after WW2, and they just took the land from the Arabs. Israelis' have also committed atrocities, if you didn't know that. They don't have any modern weapons; they are fighting with what they can. They do have a pure reason, cause it's their homeland. If after WW2 they had decided that the US would become Israel, you can be damn sure someone would have been pissed off. Either way Jews and Muslims are fucking retarded, and the world would probably be a better place if both of those religions didn't exist cause then there would be no conflict. Damn religions always seem to cause wars just cause each thinks their God is better then the next person. Why can't these dumbasses just stop killing each other... MOTHER FUCKERS.

Are you on fucking CRACK? Im not a huge PRO Usa ~ isreal guy but IRAN is a terrorist state. ITs state controls are really crummy. It would not be crazy to think they would "leak" a nuke to a leb or plo group for use in isreal!

Actually, you know very little about Iran ... obviously. Do a little non-propoganda related research and then we'll talk.

umm..israelis didn't take on the whole arab world in 6 days... Indonesia is actually the biggest Islamic nation

To be fair, the thread is about the Arab World, not the Muslim World.

We all know that Indonesia is no more Arab than Iran is, but we were discussing Arabs. Now ... Muslim nations - like Iran and Indonesia - would probably side with the Arabs, but it's only speculative.

I'm pretty sure at this point that Saudi Arabia could go toe to toe with Israel on its own and win.

First of all, I might be a just slightly subjective, being a Israeli Jew and all (:-P)), But it's a rather problematic argument, and I tell you why;

Arab and Israel's fighting tectics and systems are different, via the fighters, weapons or the cause. While we have the military advantage, hi-tech weapons, satellites and the ongoing wall surrounding certain parts of Israel, the Arabs has determination and no value for human life. Why? because in their belief, they're fighting the fight of justice, so as they grow up they're being taught that fighting the war of justice is holy, even at the cause of your life (And when you die fighting the holy war you go to heaven, with 70 virgins). You can't really call it a WAR, it's rather unorganized since they don't really have much of a based leadership as much as lots of different groups and terror organizations. I even believe that some if not most of the Palestinians\Israeli Arabs would like peace, most of them are not harmful and poor.
Israel's doing her best of defending herself, yet you can't really call her fighting. Sure, we guard our borders, we fly helicopters and move tanks, but we don't really FIGHT, we either kill or imprison specific terrorists, leaders. We don't see the fight eye for an eye, as we don't use the best of our weapons.
Not mentioning Nuclear weapons, of course, when you take that into consideration, of course we can win - the point is Israel won't bomb them that fast, we are a democracy and see ourselves as an advanced country, we won't something that drastic and risk all those innocent.

If we start WAR? we'll flip every damn rock.