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Ok can you spot the racism?

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/37C77508F507E9F886256F520014B354?OpenDocument&Headline=METROPOLITAN+AREA+DIGEST

Wasn't this a red state? ;)

This isn't any sort of 'new level', I've heard far more ridiculous examples than this.

It just ain't worth the time it's taking me to type this to say this is nothing big in any way shape or form.

that's very wierd.
apparently you can't call a blackboard such, instead a chalk board. same with a whiteboard, its a dry-wipe board...now i really don't want to be offending any boards out there! :rolleyes:

This isn't any sort of 'new level', I've heard far more ridiculous examples than this.

It just ain't worth the time it's taking me to type this to say this is nothing big in any way shape or form.

And you have soooo little time in the world. ;)

You from Missura? ;)

Unfortunately, racism and discrimination remains a very real part of American society that we all must be on the outlook and be wary of. Naturally, though, in any situation where people must guard against something negative they can become oversensitive and start tilting at windmills. It sucks, and its stupid, but it happens.

I hate political correctness. I got very uppity in Religious Studies when I was told to put "Before Christian Era" and "Christian Era" instead of: "Before Christ" and "Anno Domini". Political correctness (and the compensation culture also!) has gone way too far. You're not going to solve racism by banning Christmas (seriously! Winterfest now - sod that) or whatever.

Come to think of it, BCE and CE offend my religious sensibilities. Oh dear, PC has failed!.

I hate political correctness. I got very uppity in Religious Studies when I was told to put "Before Christian Era" and "Christian Era" instead of: "Before Christ" and "Anno Domini". Political correctness (and the compensation culture also!) has gone way too far. You're not going to solve racism by banning Christmas (seriously! Winterfest now - sod that) or whatever.

Come to think of it, BCE and CE offend my religious sensibilities. Oh dear, PC has failed!.

That's not being PC, that's acknowledging 2/3 of the world. When Muslims out populate Christians, I wonder what your reaction would be when they use "majority" principles to back government policy changes.

I wonder if Spike Lee will make a movie about Hip, the monkey...

That's not being PC, that's acknowledging 2/3 of the world. When Muslims out populate Christians, I wonder what your reaction would be when they use "majority" principles to back government policy changes.

By the way, I think that saying we are living in the the year of 2004 of the Christian Era is really frightening. Here in Brasil is "Antes de Cristo" (Befor Christ) and "Depois de Cristo" (After Christ), I don´t have a problem with that as it´s only a reference, it´s like saying "after x comet passesd through the earth" it´s only reference, now, assuming that we live in a christian era it´s to assume that christians rule this era and that´s just wrong...

I hate political correctness. I got very uppity in Religious Studies when I was told to put "Before Christian Era" and "Christian Era" instead of: "Before Christ" and "Anno Domini". Political correctness (and the compensation culture also!) has gone way too far. You're not going to solve racism by banning Christmas (seriously! Winterfest now - sod that) or whatever.

Come to think of it, BCE and CE offend my religious sensibilities. Oh dear, PC has failed!.
Umm...actually, B.C.E. and C.E. mean "Before the Common Era" and "Common Era", respectively. I would never force anyone else to use those terms, but I prefer them simply because I hate saying that I believe there is a "Year of our Lord".

Wow, I hate PC more than ever

Umm...actually, B.C.E. and C.E. mean "Before the Common Era" and "Common Era", respectively.
Wrongo!

They stand for "Before Cosmic Era," and "Cosmic Era," the latter being the calendar system the Earth and space colonists use in Gundam SEED!

Gawd I hate political correctness...

I once had to use "person-first" language to write a paper about mentally ill kids in the criminal justice system. For example, I had to use "boy with mental illness " instead of "mentally ill boy" . I think the theory is that by some magical, mystical method, putting the person before the disability will make it disappear to the rest of society. I don't know about that, but what I do no is that person-first language makes for a tedious and horrible paper.

-snip person-first -snip-
LOL - Imagine if then the moral majority started regulating first-person shooters to be person-first shooters; imagine how messed up that would be!

They stand for "Before Cosmic Era," and "Cosmic Era," the latter being the calendar system the Earth and space colonists use in Gundam SEED!

When they aren't busy ripping off the original Mobile Suit Gundam. :p

"I'd rather be right than politically correct." - Bumper Sticker

Gawd I hate political correctness...

I once had to use "person-first" language to write a paper about mentally ill kids in the criminal justice system. For example, I had to use "boy with mental illness " instead of "mentally ill boy" . I think the theory is that by some magical, mystical method, putting the person before the disability will make it disappear to the rest of society. I don't know about that, but what I do no is that person-first language makes for a tedious and horrible paper.



I wouldnt use "boy with mental illness" because it uses one more word than is necessary. English has a wealth of adjectives and adverbs and it is a disgrace to our language to ignore them and instead use this "person first" nonsense.

If i were writing in spanish, which I do not know with perfect fluency, I would use "con [mental illness]" because of my ignorance. I would assume anyone who used a similar construction in english to be just as ignorant.

That's pretty bad... there's other ridiculous examples of PC though. I absolutely hate PC....

It is good for comical purposes though, namely PC titles for jobs.

A food service worker = guy who flips burgers at McDonalds.

That's pretty bad... there's other ridiculous examples of PC though. I absolutely hate PC....

It is good for comical purposes though, namely PC titles for jobs.

A food service worker = guy who flips burgers at McDonalds.
Sanitation engineer = garbage man.
Maintenance engineer = janitor.
Group for the Mentally Challenged = U.S. Congress.

And you have soooo little time in the world. ;)

You from Missura? ;)

Ooh! I am! I live 40 miles west of St Louis, however.

And it's spelled Missourah, if you're going to say it that way. Yes, Missouri was red (thank god), but in St. Louis county, blacks outnumber whites at least 5 to 1.

IMO theres PC, which is either a) a coverup for a person's prejudicial attitudes, b) a load of crap or c) an excuse for bigots to be dickheads and something they can throw in the face of people who disagree with them.

Then we have the much much better option, i.e. not being a racist/sexist/homophobic/otherwise discriminatory arse.

Not trying to sound stupid or anything but....
What was racist about the monkey again?
I'm trying to envision maybe a dark colored tap dancing monkey, and that could be offensive i suppose.
But they also said that they had to change the name from "Hip" to "Hap".
Seriously, whats offensive about the name Hip? I don't get it. Can someone please fill me in?

Thanks:)

[QUOTE=New Granada]I wouldnt use "boy with mental illness" because it uses one more word than is necessary. English has a wealth of adjectives and adverbs and it is a disgrace to our language to ignore them and instead use this "person first" nonsense.[QUOTE]

Unfortunately, it was a requirement to use person-first language. I think the professor ran out of red ink because I didn't use that language for much of the paper. Using person-first language makes a paper very awkward.

I hate it when racists throw their views in peoples' faces or people make insensitive dumb jokes.

People who complain about political correctness just need to get around to realize that ethnic jokes/jokes on serious things can hurt. Americans, consider this one*:
"How many 9/11 victims can you fit inside a Honda?
Answer: 5 in the seats, 40 in the ash trays (a reference to all the people who got burned to death when the planes hit)."

Less funny? Thought so :p .

Jokes like "how many Poles do you need to screw in a light bulb" are OK, though, as they don't really target Poles (you just need to put something between "many" and "do" ;) ).

I hate political correctness. I got very uppity in Religious Studies when I was told to put "Before Christian Era" and "Christian Era" instead of: "Before Christ" and "Anno Domini". Political correctness (and the compensation culture also!) has gone way too far. You're not going to solve racism by banning Christmas (seriously! Winterfest now - sod that) or whatever.

Come to think of it, BCE and CE offend my religious sensibilities. Oh dear, PC has failed!.
Sigh :rolleyes: . And I get upset when people talk first and then think, but do they listen?

As for Christmas:
Celebrate it all you want. If you want to call it Christmas that's fine with me, too, even if you don't believe in Christ and do it just for the gifts and food and fun. I do think it's ridiculous and absurd ( :D ), but it's a free world, right?

[Tongue-to-cheek]
As for political correctness: Yeah, it sucks, let's go back to calling Africans niggers and Americans yankee doodles and homosexuals faggots! Who cares if it annoys people who's got a rod up their asses :D .

My point is that things change. So what if you have to change your language? Others have done it before you, right?

But that article... So a monkey's named something, big freakin' deal! Is "Hap" a name in some African country or something :confused: ? I'm honestly clueless.

I once had to use "person-first" language to write a paper about mentally ill kids in the criminal justice system. For example, I had to use "boy with mental illness " instead of "mentally ill boy" . I think the theory is that by some magical, mystical method, putting the person before the disability will make it disappear to the rest of society. I don't know about that, but what I do no is that person-first language makes for a tedious and horrible paper.
Did your instructor ever tell you why? Mental illness is an illness just like other illnesses. Yes, depression can make you feel bad and unable to do things, but.. so can the flu, right?

Sad how people act like that. Sure, you shouldn't make fun of people for being mentally ill, but cushioning mentally ill people like that's ridiculous (and before you say I'm biased, I've got Major Depression and I've once tried to take my life). I'd say that the fact that you're not using "retard" does it :D .

That's not being PC, that's acknowledging 2/3 of the world. When Muslims out populate Christians, I wonder what your reaction would be when they use "majority" principles to back government policy changes.
Common Era is more neutral, simple as that. And as far as I'm concerned, it's the same to me what you use. History indicates that Jesus did live and that he was born about 2000 years ago. Whether or not he's the son of a god or not, though... well, that's another discussion, right ;) ?

an excuse for bigots to be dickheads and something they can throw in the face of people who disagree with them.
That works both ways, you know. Some people who utter offensive statements say that the opposition has a "rod up its butt", right?

Politics is such that both sides need something they can throw when out of arguments. It's like NRA's trademark "guns don't kill people, people kill people".

To finish, let me say that what I hate is that if someone makes an ethnic joke, you must laugh at it, or you've "got a rod up your ass". So if you don't think the joke's good, too bad, you have to laugh or the joker will yell at you for "h4t1ng 1T b3Cazz u r 4 r0d uP ur 4SsSSSSSs!!!!!111111111" :rolleyes: .

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* I'm affected by the 9/11 attacks as much as the next guy and didn't consider the joke to be funny. I just needed an example.

How extreme can political correctness get? What is the opposite to that? Which do you prefer?

that's very wierd.
apparently you can't call a blackboard such, instead a chalk board. same with a whiteboard, its a dry-wipe board...now i really don't want to be offending any boards out there! :rolleyes:


Funny, I call 'em blackboard and whiteboard, and no one ever is offended....
And may I say that the blackboard is clearly superior to the whiteboard in terms of cleansing.... :p

How extreme can political correctness get? What is the opposite to that? Which do you prefer?

PC is like anything else. Ok in small doses and always taken in moderation.
Example:
In some schools in the US they are trying to stop using the honor roll system for rewarding kids who have a high grade point average. The reason used is that it might hurt the feelings of the kids who didn't make it.

This, imo, is utter nonsense. There must be rewards for high acheivement. It give the kids who make it a sense of self-worth and helps to get them scholarships. It also give the ones who didn't make it a worthy goal. It shows everyone that hard work pays off. Otherwise, most will say "Why bother?"

This is just one example. I'm sure that others will come up with better ones. I've eaten enough to feed a small village today and am honestly just to damn lazy to try.

Later taters,
BoNe

Common Era is more neutral, simple as that. And as far as I'm concerned, it's the same to me what you use. History indicates that Jesus did live and that he was born about 2000 years ago. Whether or not he's the son of a god or not, though... well, that's another discussion, right ?

Believe me, he's the son of God ;)