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if god is all powerful and can do anything can he create an un moveable object?

if god is all powerful and can do anything can he create an un moveable object?

Indeed he can. But not that you'd notice because insstead of moving the object, he'd move everything else. :)

Indeed he can. But not that you'd notice because insstead of moving the object, he'd move everything else. :)

a very good answer i mean no offence by that question im just not religous next question how can he be all powerful and do anything if he cant move the object?

I believe he could make an unmoveable thing, but he's still be able to move it, even though he can't move it...

I don't think that God is limited to our logic. But then, that's just me...

God doens't do the impossible. He makes the impossible possible. Like David Copperfield. :)

Theres no such thing as an unmoveable object :)

I believe he could make an unmoveable thing, but he's still be able to move it, even though he can't move it...

I don't think that God is limited to our logic. But then, that's just me...

i cant say but im just interested to hear what religous people beleave

i cant say but im just interested to hear what religous people beleave

Why? what is your point in this thread.

Why? what is your point in this thread.

And whats YOURS, hmm? :p

You may as well ask, why has that man not got a beard.

"An object at rest cannot be stopped!"

Why? what is your point in this thread.

its the whole if he can then he's not all powerful if he cant then he cant do anything i just wondered peoples opinions im sorry

Just what my boss says about me.

"An object at rest cannot be stopped!"

Even if it's at rest, it's still techically moving if it is warmer than absolute zero ;)

"An object at rest cannot be stopped!"

WWTEMBWBAMD? (What would The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs At Midnight Do?)

Just what my boss says about me.

come again?

im off now i'll be back tomorrow to see how many times i have been flamed for asking a genuine question toodles :p

exactly plus how did god create something from nothing? i thought nothing wasn't anything... :confused:

exactly plus how did god create something from nothing? i thought nothing wasn't anything... :confused:

He doesn't actually create something from nothing. He simply alters nothing's property of nothingness. Since nothing isn't nothing anymore, it must be something. :)

Okay... not really sure how to do this... Never used this forum before, so excuse me if I accidently reply to the wrong post.

In all honesty, the orignial question about God being able to make something He can't move is... crazy. Questions like that have absolutely nothing to do with how God works. Mind games, really.

Okay... not really sure how to do this... Never used this forum before, so excuse me if I accidently reply to the wrong post.

In all honesty, the orignial question about God being able to make something He can't move is... crazy. Questions like that have absolutely nothing to do with how God works. Mind games, really.

mind games? its genuine i personally dont care how god works, or weither he even exsists if you guys who belive cant even agree not a good advert for sum 1 like me to be religous is it?

Are you trying to be scientific or something?

Well then, through true logic and science there cannot exist both an irresistable force and an immovable object. Looks like your argument just went down the drain.

Where's you atheist god now, bitch?

He doesn't actually create something from nothing. He simply alters nothing's property of nothingness. Since nothing isn't nothing anymore, it must be something. :)

Like a colourful balloon?

If god is god then wat's that saying of jesus being god? Are they the same? If we have god then why do we need a jesus? If god wants us to believe in him why can't he show his face to us? If god is so good and forgiven, why do he punish? Dont be hating because of the many question I have but tell me why I I should not have doubts... That is all for now...

I don't think this forum is the best medium to be talking about issues like that.

if god is all powerful and can do anything can he create an un moveable object?
Yes he could, and then he could move it.

Can't wrap your mind around it? Gee, I guess then intellect is not all it's cracked up to be.

There are already plenty of physical paradox documented by science, so a hypothetical paradox is no less possible.

if god is all powerful and can do anything can he create an un moveable object?
An immovable object is called a lump.

He doesn't actually create something from nothing. He simply alters nothing's property of nothingness. Since nothing isn't nothing anymore, it must be something. :)
But nothingness is the only property nothing can have...

I like.

Are you trying to be scientific or something?

Well then, through true logic and science there cannot exist both an irresistable force and an immovable object. Looks like your argument just went down the drain.

Where's you atheist god now, bitch?

well i guess that wraps this thread up then? and in answer to your question i have no atheist god, obviously something created us but i dont know what im keeping an open mind about that

Where is the Christian saying "Our minds weren't mean to comprehend Gods work"? Did i miss it already? Damn

Omnipotence needs to be defined. A biblical definition of omnipotence is that God is able to do anything consistent with his own nature, which naturally means there are some things he can't do. For instance, Titus 1:2 explains that God cannot lie.

Part of God's nature is that he acts rationally. That's why, as the image-bearers of God, we are rational and logical creatures. That's why we live in a rational universe and not a dimension where trees sprout apples one day and pigs the next.

As a previous poster wrote, the simultaneous existence of an unstoppable force and immovable object is irrational. Since God acts rationally, the answer to your question is no.

Gee golly, Wally! This thread has been done before. And here's the most recent one prior to this one...

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=369399

if god is all powerful and can do anything can he create an un moveable object?
It's a contradiction in terms. Since God can move anything it's impossible for Him to create an object he cannot move ... by definiton. It's sematics, not theology.

Aaaah! My post has been attached to a signature. Now I will get some sort of publicity, though since it is of questionable material, I'll have questionable responses. If anyone is wondering, I was just pointing out the logical fallacy in the question.

And the "Where's your atheist god now, bitch?" was just a joke. Seeing that atheism constitutes no God, I just thought it would be a funny thing to end on. Well, I'll be seeing reactions to that sometime soon.

God doens't do the impossible. He makes the impossible possible. Like David Copperfield. :)
couldnt have said it better myself.

And the "Where's your atheist god now, bitch?" was just a joke. Seeing that atheism constitutes no God, I just thought it would be a funny thing to end on.

So did I, or I wouldn't have quoted it. :)

exactly plus how did god create something from nothing? i thought nothing wasn't anything... :confused:
According to eastern religions/philosophies there are two types of nothing.
Nothing-that-is-something (air seems like nothing to us, vacuum in space which still has a few atoms here) and there is nothing-that-is-nothing (a total absence of anything). So there is no such thing as nothing-that-is nothing inside the universe and it was created/formed itself (pick your preference) from nothing-that-is-nothing.

Hope that makes sense but english lacks words for types of nothing :)

In fact, I enjoy Texan having quoted me in his signature. That is one of my more informative yet funny posts so far. Maybe my publicity will be of the good variety. You know, the type that doesn't get you killed.

if god is all powerful and can do anything can he create an un moveable object?
Already done to death in this forum.

"An object at rest cannot be stopped!"
Relativity... :D