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Hey...Letora is back with yet another question...

Canada is a beautiful country with plenty of natural resources... And with the world slowly draining theirs and us still having a good number... What do you think is going to happen...?

Will Canada rise up in the future years and become the next "Superpower"?

Or will Canada become the next warzone as we tear ourselves apart with civil war, invasion from another country?

*Note: The Civil War scenario revolves around the provinces eventually FIGHTING each other litterally for resources...*

The US will invade Canada sooner or later. Cause they might someday want to develop WMD's. Plus those poor, opressed natural resources need to be freed.

Maybe... maybe not. I won't hold my breath though.

Land, A growing Population,a nd a Dollar that is rising. Could happen. Capital, Land and People aren't those like the three things needed?
But chances are it won't happen till after China falls from power. Not to mention "Super Power" Is overrated now that we have Nukes. :rolleyes:

i really don't see the civil war thing happening.

i can imagine a giant drunken bar room style fight in parliment for some reason... but not a civil war here. i mean, we hardly have enough of an army to fight other countries, let alone divide them up and fight amongst ourselves.

i get the feeling that things would work themselves out eventually...

It is quite possible for Canada to eventually become a superpower, but its not going to happen in the near future. Some things that would have to happen first:

1: And most importantly, Canada would have to have a much larger population. In order to be a superpower, one must have an imposing military presence. Technology and equipment isn't enough though, you must have the raw manpower to be able to occupy and secure large tracts of territory effectively. Let's say that Canada would need a minimum of 100 million citizens in order to have the military presence we speak of. Even if we assumed that our population could increase by a million people a year, mainly through immigration, which in itself is stretching the plausable, it would still take us 70 years to reach our target figure. Basically, I don't think that Canada will have the population to become a superpower for a couple hundred more years.

2: We would have to have a pro-military government, and this for scores of terms in a row, in order to perform the military build up necessary to attain superpower status. This means that there would have to be a radical shift in the Canadian voter's mentality. As is today, your average Canadian is pretty left leaning, and left leaning democracies don't tend to focus on military build up. If Canada were to become a superpower, it would, I think, have to first have a population reseptive to a far-right wing platform. Which isn't going to happen while we're pulling in all those immigrants. It could only happen once Canada experienced a period of stability and peace and quite, or under extreme conditions, such as imminent war. So ya, I say you can add another century onto the original estimate.

3: We would have to become more united as a nation. There's no such thing as a divided superpower. Which means that we would have to settle the west+Quebec v.s. Ontario fued. That's not going to happen any time soon, I don't think.

Can Canada become the next superpower? Sure, but I'd say give it about 250 years to get there.

The US will invade Canada sooner or later. Cause they might someday want to develop WMD's. Plus those poor, opressed natural resources need to be freed.
Haha! :p :p You really cracked me up there. ...You're kidding, right?

America will try to invade Canada sooner or later. The media will make up some sort of story that the Canadians are making poison maple syrup of mass destruction and the American government will use that as an excuse to invade and "liberate" the terribly opressed Canadians.

Haha! :p :p You really cracked me up there. ...You're kidding, right?
Why? You don't think that one day the Canadian military junta will decide they need WMD's? How else do you expect them to keep those resources under their thumbs and deny them their birthright? To be sold to American consumers at the lowest possible price in huge quantities.

America will try to invade Canada sooner or later. The media will make up some sort of story that the Canadians are making poison maple syrup of mass destruction and the American government will use that as an excuse to invade and "liberate" the terribly opressed Canadians.
Ah yes. Freedom syrup. I can see the headlines now.

America will try to invade Canada sooner or later. The media will make up some sort of story that the Canadians are making poison maple syrup of mass destruction and the American government will use that as an excuse to invade and "liberate" the terribly opressed Canadians.

I'm 16 and I'd fight em to the death if they tried it! :mp5: Raid a gun shop and fight like an Iraqi! (Only with better tech, more land to hide it, and a bigger population to resist)

I'm 16 and I'd fight em to the death if they tried it! :mp5: Raid a gun shop and fight like an Iraqi! (Only with better tech, more land to hide it, and a bigger population to resist)
Pfff...no you won't. Like the peoples in Iraq you'll welcome the invaders with ecological grown flowers.

no offense to you Americans, but if any of you crossed my border with the intention of taking over my country i would personally blow your head clean off you shoulders, and i'm not a violent person by nature

your damn rights we'd rise up if we felt threatened by anyone, and when Canadians fight, we tend to win even against the worst odds

Man, when I read that, it made me explode from laughter. Seriously, Canada a superpower? Then again, that's probably what everyone thought before the U.S. became one itself. I don't doubt the far, left-field possibility, but I think a lot of things would have to happen first.

And for the record, Right-Wing doesn't necessarily equal war. Maybe in Canada it does, but Centrists and even intelligent left-wingers understand that a military does have an application in today's world. Sorry, but not everything can be solved through diplomacy.

Man, when I read that, it made me explode from laughter. Seriously, Canada a superpower? Then again, that's probably what everyone thought before the U.S. became one itself.

it wasn't until near the end of WW1 that most of the world even considered the U.S a seperate country from England, and even then it took until mid-WW2 for people to accept the U.S. as a powerful country

In the near funture China will become a Super Power , and India won't be far behind. As for Canada were are already a economic and technolgcal power, but we won't beable to become a miltary Super power until we pay off are national debt(est. 200 years form now), or stop caring about it like the US has.
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/


The US is very likley to want to try to annex us some way or another, If we don't give them a reason to invade there likley to try merging with us. Probly along the lines of the united Kingdom of Great Britian and North Ireland(there name is to long), or the EU.

The best reason they may ever get for invasion would be if the water supply runs low via over use or Global Warming and we don't give huge amounts of water and thus destroying Canada as we know it (they already tried to get us to divert one of are rivers,The Fraser River which is very important to BC's trade and fisherys, to which I say "divert your own river", The Columbia River, "it's bigger anyway.") all thoug within the next 100 year or so Canada will become more and more powerful, but it will be centuies until we are strong enougth to stand alone angainst America, thus are only hope and fighting them off would be Common Wealth and/or EU miltary support. China and Asia is unlikey to help becuase huge amounts of there econimies are owned by Americans and are deeply dependent on American trade (by the end of the is China will take Canada's place as American's largest trade partner.)

Realisitically, if Canada were to become a superpower it would need a much larger and well-funded military, as far as the traditional idea of the superpower is concerned. The chance of this happening are slim. If anything, if the world economy should collapse then it may be up to Canada, the EU and possibly China (although I wouldn't count on that one, maybe east asia in general though) to fix it and they could gain more influence that way.

The EU since it is a growing organized economic center with a strong academic base.

Asia for its really high production in all areas.

Canada for its ability to innovate, its great humanitarian record and the ability to easily vulture what's left of the US to its advantage when the US goes tits up.

If World War 3 does break out I think militaries will begin to fall out of style anyway once it ends (if we are still around). Companies will make up the power vacuum in countries where capitalist ideals are held to a higher regard more than socialist ones and maybe Canada will become a superpower that way (but since its fairly socialist, who knows, eh :p ).

Will there be an OCP Corp someday? (remember RoboCop?) Maybe the day where corporations rule isn't just 80's fantasy.

In the future, I hope aggressions are taken out through gaming. Finally, you can send your teenager off to war and be totally at ease! :D

Well, that's just my ramblings about a probable future. If Orson Welles were around though I'd bet he'd predict it dead on.

Untied Kingdom of Great Britian and North Ireland

:D Hahaha...the Untied Kingdom.... :p

I strongly doubt two things.

1) That Canada will fall into civil war. Territorial unrest and dissagreement yes, nothing new there.
2) That the US will ever allow Canada to achieve 'superpower' status. America will never invade or rattle its sabre but it would use its wealth to undercut any dynamic development.

America wants and needs an economically strong northern neighbour, it would even like to see Canada 'beef up' its military. But it could not allow a military equal next door.

Will there be an OCP Corp someday? (remember RoboCop?) Maybe the day where corporations rule isn't just 80's fantasy.

Yes. They were almost bought up by the Japanese.

:D Hahaha...the Untied Kingdom.... :p
oops...well the point get across

it wasn't until near the end of WW1 that most of the world even considered the U.S a seperate country from England, and even then it took until mid-WW2 for people to accept the U.S. as a powerful country


I suppose technically, you're correct. I don't disagree. But prior to WWI Teddy Roosevelt sailed Navy warships around the world to demonstrate the power of the U.S., whether it was successful or not. Really though, I don't care what the rest of the world thinks of the U.S., just as Canada or any other country shouldn't care what the world thinks of them.

So what if I consider Canada not as militarily powerful as the U.S.? So what if 60% of Canadian teenagers think the U.S. is evil? They're entitled to that opinion, right? And as such, the nation in question has the right not to give a damn what the other thinks.

I know I'm off topic, but I'm serious. Canadians, do you really care what the United States thinks about you? U.S., do you care? I should hope not.

the only time i really care what the U.S thinks, is when they get their hands wet in something that shouldn't, and doesn't conern them, (ie. http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/05/02/us_pot_rxn030502 )

The US will invade Canada sooner or later. Cause they might someday want to develop WMD's. Plus those poor, opressed natural resources need to be freed.

Oh, you mean the Canadashluss. It'll only be because we Americans will need more Lebensraum.

Oh, you mean the Canadashluss. It'll only be because we Americans will need more Lebensraum.
Excactly. The US population grows exponantily(sp). Thanks to the clever combination of fastfood and little excersize. They'll run out of space some day.

Oh, you mean the Canadashluss. It'll only be because we Americans will need more Lebensraum.

Wha? :confused:

it wasn't until near the end of WW1 that most of the world even considered the U.S a seperate country from England,

Sorry, I have to dissagree there. America had ongoing battle plans for any possible war with GB well past WW1, into the 1930's I believe. They had been viewed as future combatants since the middle 19th century. And educated Brits even talked of the US 'taking Britains place' soon after WW1. It was called, in those unpolitically correct days 'taking the white mans burden'.

no offense to you Americans, but if any of you crossed my border with the intention of taking over my country i would personally blow your head clean off you shoulders, and i'm not a violent person by nature

your damn rights we'd rise up if we felt threatened by anyone, and when Canadians fight, we tend to win even against the worst odds

If the United States had some stupid reason to go to war with Canada.
A. Where would Americans go to run from being drafted?
B. Would it be right if I decided to fight for the Canadian side?

A. Where would Americans go to run from being drafted?
Canada of course.
B. Would it be right if I decided to fight for the Canadian side?
No. That would be unpatriotic.

Wha? :confused:

Canadashluss is a take on "Anshluss" from when Nazi Germany annexed Austria in the 1930s, due to the fact that Germans and Austrians are of the same descent. "Lebensraum" is German for "living space", which is one thing the Germans wanted during that time period.

the only time i really care what the U.S thinks, is when they get their hands wet in something that shouldn't, and doesn't conern them, (ie. http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/05/02/us_pot_rxn030502 )

I see your point, and I agree. Why should we care if Canadians wanna dope up? Not our problem. I think its weak and disrespectful to yourself to use drugs, but that's just my opinion. I have a lot of friends who take drugs, but as I've said, that's their thing. Its none of my business.

That would be like certain countries speaking out against us for fighting off terrorists. Oh wait...

Excactly. The US population grows exponantily(sp). Thanks to the clever combination of fastfood and little excersize. They'll run out of space some day.

Yep.

It is quite possible for Canada to eventually become a superpower, but its not going to happen in the near future. Some things that would have to happen first:

1: And most importantly, Canada would have to have a much larger population. In order to be a superpower, one must have an imposing military presence. Technology and equipment isn't enough though, you must have the raw manpower to be able to occupy and secure large tracts of territory effectively. Let's say that Canada would need a minimum of 100 million citizens in order to have the military presence we speak of. Even if we assumed that our population could increase by a million people a year, mainly through immigration, which in itself is stretching the plausable, it would still take us 70 years to reach our target figure. Basically, I don't think that Canada will have the population to become a superpower for a couple hundred more years.

2: We would have to have a pro-military government, and this for scores of terms in a row, in order to perform the military build up necessary to attain superpower status. This means that there would have to be a radical shift in the Canadian voter's mentality. As is today, your average Canadian is pretty left leaning, and left leaning democracies don't tend to focus on military build up. If Canada were to become a superpower, it would, I think, have to first have a population reseptive to a far-right wing platform. Which isn't going to happen while we're pulling in all those immigrants. It could only happen once Canada experienced a period of stability and peace and quite, or under extreme conditions, such as imminent war. So ya, I say you can add another century onto the original estimate.

3: We would have to become more united as a nation. There's no such thing as a divided superpower. Which means that we would have to settle the west+Quebec v.s. Ontario fued. That's not going to happen any time soon, I don't think.

Can Canada become the next superpower? Sure, but I'd say give it about 250 years to get there.


who says we have to be a military superpower?

why can't we become a scientific superpower? develop enough technology and knowledge that the rest of the world looks to us for guidance?

there's more to the world than brute force.

Canadashluss is a take on "Anshluss" from when Nazi Germany annexed Austria in the 1930s, due to the fact that Germans and Austrians are of the same descent. "Lebensraum" is German for "living space", which is one thing the Germans wanted during that time period.
Actually it's Anschluss.

Wha? :confused:
They're probably talking about some kind of beer...

Actually it's Anschluss.

Ah, thanks. I thought i was missing a letter. Did I get Lebensraum right?

I see your point, and I agree. Why should we care if Canadians wanna dope up? Not our problem. I think its weak and disrespectful to yourself to use drugs, but that's just my opinion. I have a lot of friends who take drugs, but as I've said, that's their thing. Its none of my business.

oh please, you speak of pot as though it was heroin.

pot is better for you than alcohol. way to be ignorant.

That would be like certain countries speaking out against us for fighting off terrorists. Oh wait...
did we go with you to afghanistan or not?

that's where the terrorists were... iraq had nothing to do with the "war on terror" and more to do with bush's personal vendetta against saddam.

They're probably talking about some kind of beer...

No, just look up ^

Ah, thanks. I thought i was missing a letter. Did I get Lebensraum right?
Yes.

Canada is too divided regionally to rise up as one and become a major force in the world. However, if these regional divides are mended, Canada's future as a major international player looks promising! :)

who says we have to be a military superpower?

why can't we become a scientific superpower? develop enough technology and knowledge that the rest of the world looks to us for guidance?

there's more to the world than brute force.


judging by the scientific breakthroughs made at place like UofA, UofC, UofT and dozens of other Canadian institutions in recent years, i'd say we're alreay a Scientific Superpower

No, just look up ^

Got it, though I was kidding about the beer :P

oh please, you speak of pot as though it was heroin.

pot is better for you than alcohol. way to be ignorant.
If you take one hit of a joint you'll end up with a needle in your arm lying in the gutter by default. I talked to a gazillion doctors and they all agree. ;)

that's where the terrorists were... iraq had nothing to do with the "war on terror" and more to do with bush's personal vendetta against saddam.
I think it had more to do with him wanting to do something his famouse father never did. Cause untill operation OIL all he was was the son of a famouse dad.

...and more to do with bush's personal vendetta against saddam.
after the invadion of Iraq the US stop almost all funding to the Suadi Arabian goverment, which is there primary srouce of oil...for now.

Yes.

K.

Danke

Got it, though I was kidding about the beer :P

Silence!!! Quit teasing me with your b33r speak!!!

Now... back to Canada....

oh please, you speak of pot as though it was heroin.

pot is better for you than alcohol. way to be ignorant.

Ok, I'm not going to get into it with you. I don't like alcohol either. I'm entitled to my opinion about alcohol or any other drug. I don't care what you think about it, either. If you disagree, its your problem.

And about the ignorance thing... when did I say alcohol was better? Never.

did we go with you to afghanistan or not?

that's where the terrorists were... iraq had nothing to do with the "war on terror" and more to do with bush's personal vendetta against saddam.

The only thing I can say to you is that you need to brush up on your history a bit. You're sending the vibe that Saddam should have been left alone, and the world would be better with Saddam in power. Surely, you can't be serious.

Hey...Letora is back with yet another question...

Canada is a beautiful country with plenty of natural resources... And with the world slowly draining theirs and us still having a good number... What do you think is going to happen...?

Will Canada rise up in the future years and become the next "Superpower"?

Or will Canada become the next warzone as we tear ourselves apart with civil war, invasion from another country?

*Note: The Civil War scenario revolves around the provinces eventually FIGHTING each other litterally for resources...*

Canada will remain the insignificant, sparsely-populated frozen wasteland it is today.

Silence!!! Quit teasing me with your b33r speak!!!

Now... back to Canada....
Yes. Ungratefull sob's. How quikly they forgot the US saved them in WW2.
I think I got a few cans of beer in my fridge.

Canadashluss is a take on "Anshluss" from when Nazi Germany annexed Austria in the 1930s, due to the fact that Germans and Austrians are of the same descent. "Lebensraum" is German for "living space", which is one thing the Germans wanted during that time period.

Ah. 'Kay.

Just remember to wipe your feet on the way in. We're very clean here.

Ah. 'Kay.

Just remember to wipe your feet on the way in. We're very clean here.

I'll pass that on to the troops.

judging by the scientific breakthroughs made at place like UofA, UofC, UofT and dozens of other Canadian institutions in recent years, i'd say we're alreay a Scientific Superpower
we are currently the world leaders in biocemisty, medical sceince, agurcultural science, enivomental science and hydro cells. as well are world leaders in robotics, and almost every of field that can help use along, include many miltary sciences. ( the American criuse missiles were desined and tested in Canada, and are Halifax Class frigates and said to be in the top 5 war ships in the world.)

Yes. Ungratefull sob's. How quikly they forgot the US saved them in WW2.
I think I got a few cans of beer in my fridge.

Nani desu ka? We saved Canada? Britain and France, yes. But Canada?

we are currently the world leaders in biocemisty, medical sceince, agurcultural science, enivomental science and hydro cells. as well are world leaders in robotics, and almost every of field that can helps use along, include many miltary sience. ( the American criuse missiles were desined and tested in Canada, and are Halifax Class frigates and said to be in the top 5 war ships in the world.)
No offense. But perhaps you should try harder to become world leaders in the English language as well. :D

If you take one hit of a joint you'll end up with a needle in your arm lying in the gutter by default. I talked to a gazillion doctors and they all agree. ;)


Eep! I fear I have to disagree, friend. Heh, I've never smoked a joint, hit a bong or anything in my life, but I can say the whole "gateway drug" bit is absolute bunkem. It's like saying smoking cigerettes leads to smoking pot. No it's not healthy so of course doctors are against it. And being more fanatical about health, they'll ball it into the same satagory as any drug.

Ganja is along the same lines as cigerettes or alcohol. All addictive and not exactly healthy, but nothing compared to heroin or cocaine. Only reason it's not legal is because the government can't tax it yet. That and the US has put soooo much money into the war on drugs, a lot aimed at weed that they'd look foolish to back down now and say, "oops, you know we were wrong. This ain't as bad as we said."

Ofcourse all this is kinda off topic and sutable for another thread. ;)

No offense. But perhaps you should try harder to become world leaders in the English language as well. :D

Must be French-Canadian. (no offense)

No offense. But perhaps you should try harder to become world leaders in the English language as well. :D
I have a speach impediment, thus when I try to figure out how to spells things I say them to my self wrong, so I can sound them out properly and thus spell them wrong. And i'll to lazy to spell check every thing.

Yes. Ungratefull sob's. How quikly they forgot the US saved them in WW2.
I think I got a few cans of beer in my fridge.

how did the U.S save Canada? i don't get it? we actually had a higher win/loss ratio than the U.S did in all the battles we fought. as a matter of Fact, Canada took Juno beach almost Single-handidly

It's like saying smoking cigerettes leads to smoking pot.
It does. The gazillion doctors I talked to said so. And since you never smoked any your not qualified to try and educate me about it. :p

how did the U.S save Canada? i don't get it? we actually had a higher win/loss ratio than the U.S did in all the battles we fought. as a matter of Fact, Canada took Juno beach almost Single-handidly
America saved France. Which is a province of Canada where they speak French.

we are currently the world leaders in biocemisty, medical sceince, agurcultural science, enivomental science and hydro cells. as well are world leaders in robotics, and almost every of field that can help use along, include many miltary sciences. ( the American criuse missiles were desined and tested in Canada, and are Halifax Class frigates and said to be in the top 5 war ships in the world.)

How come we absolutely have to sell each and every technology we develop to Americans?

America saved France. Which is a province of Canada where they speak French.

Quebec is a Province of Canada where they speak french, France is a seperate country with no Geographical ties to Canada

America saved France. Which is a province of Canada where they speak French.
ROFL! I think I forgot we had assimilated them, some time ago.

How come we absolutely have to sell each and every technology we develop to Americans?

cuz you can make more money accepting an American dollar over a Canadian dollar (for now...)

How come we absolutely have to sell each and every technology we develop to Americans?
Tribute to your lawfull rulers.

Quebec is a Province of Canada where they speak french, France is a seperate country with no Geographical ties to Canada
No. America saved France. You Canadians owe them.

Ok, I'm not going to get into it with you. I don't like alcohol either. I'm entitled to my opinion about alcohol or any other drug. I don't care what you think about it, either. If you disagree, its your problem.
you're still talking about pot as though it's an addictive and harmful substance.

The only thing I can say to you is that you need to brush up on your history a bit. You're sending the vibe that Saddam should have been left alone, and the world would be better with Saddam in power. Surely, you can't be serious.
well, saddam was isolated in his rule. if you wanted to take on some terrible dictarors, then why go after saddam? mugabe is doing much worse...

No. America saved France. You Canadians owe them.
canada isn't france.

America saved France. Which is a province of Canada where they speak French.

What??? France a province of Canada??? What the hell are you talking aboot?

How come we absolutely have to sell each and every technology we develop to Americans?

If we don't they'll stop broadcasting NASCAR in Canada.

No. America saved France. You Canadians owe them.

Um... dude.... seek help.

canada isn't france.
Yes it is. They speak French.

If we don't they'll stop broadcasting NASCAR in Canada.

Oh, we will.... don't tempt us.

Yes. Ungratefull sob's. How quikly they forgot the US saved them in WW2.
I think I got a few cans of beer in my fridge.
you clearly never heard of the "Last Order". the "Last Order" was the was simple. if germans troops should land of British soil, Canada and all other dominions and conlonies and to cede for the emprireand withdraw for the war. Canada would never have been threated by german ivasion. besides German was actually weaker that the Birttish Empire (they had India back then lots of soldiers there), only reason why they lots on mainland eruope was because of blitzkrieg, which is the base of all combined armies operations to day. German was just the frist to figure it out. And the Battle of birtian was won berfore the US joined the war. If the US never joined the war the allies still would have won, but it would have taken longer.

If we don't they'll stop broadcasting NASCAR in Canada.

sounds good to me, when will that happen?

Yes it is. They speak French.

Dude, no it isn't. What the hell is wrong with you? France and Canada are seperate countries. Quebec is a french-speaking province of Canada.

It does. The gazillion doctors I talked to said so. And since you never smoked any your not qualified to try and educate me about it. :p

:rolleyes: Not qualified? I'm a member of the Marijuna Party of Canada! Heh, I've lived my whole life around smokers and tokers. I've watched it grown and no more ways to take a hit then I can count. Watched the good and the bad, etc. Basically, I never smoked it but I lived my life with it all around me. I even know people with hydro growing it. I don't use, but I know what I talk about.

I've also watched as newer drugs came into my home area. Cocaine, PCP, etc. Only the hard tickets, people who'd take that crap anyway get into that stuff. So you can see where the dillusion comes from. "Oh! They smoked pot and now heroin! It's linked!" Nope. If pot never existed, these people would be injecting still. Most pot users I know are still only true to home grown goodness.

Talk to all the doctors you wish. It's like asking a politician if his political views are right. Of course he's gonna say yes!

Remember, everyone who drinks isn't an alcoholic and everyone who enjoys a spliff isn't gonna do crack.

i smoke pot on a nightly basis, i've done Acid maybe once(won't do it again), and mushrooms a couple times, i've never touched anything else and i never will

NASCAR is so repulsive...

The fact that we in the U.S. consider NASCAR, a game where you drive around for hours in a circle, a sport... is beyond me.

Now football is a different story, and a different post all together.

Oh, for the love of God people! Von Witzleben is just joking around.

How many :p 's does a man have to put in his posts before people get the hint.

(Sorry Von Witzleben, I know you were enjoying this but I'm too cranky today to sit here and watch this silliness anymore.)

Yes it is. They speak French.
so does a large portion of africa.

and the u.s. uses english as an official language, does that mean that the u.s. is part of britan?

NASCAR is so repulsive...

The fact that we in the U.S. consider NASCAR, a game where you drive around for hours in a circle, a sport... is beyond me.

Now football is a different story, and a different post all together.

Aww...but the deadly accidents are so much fun to watch!

Sure, football players have iNjUrIeS...but where is the flaming wreckage!

you clearly never heard of the "Last Order". the "Last Order" was the was simple. if germans troops should land of British soil, Canada and all other dominions and conlonies and to cede for the emprireand withdraw for the war.
Eeh no. I never heard of the last order.
besides German was actually weaker that the Birttish Empire (they had India back then lots of soldiers there)
Lot's of people is not the same as lot's of soldiers. German troops on the ground where better trained and organised then any of their opponents. And the British didn't score any significant succes against them untill the second battle of El Alamein. By then the Wehrmacht was overstretched throwing most of it's troops and material at the Russian front. Besides India was under threat of the Japanese.
only reason why they lots on mainland eruope was because of blitzkrieg, which is the base of all combined armies operations to day. German was just the frist to figure it out. And the Battle of birtian was won berfore the US joined the war. If the US never joined the war the allies still would have won, but it would have taken longer.
Hmmm....the German wolfpacks kinda where in charge of the Atlantic traderoutes. Which were the lifeblood of Britain. Who, like Germany, lacks enormouse amounts of natural resources to sustain a war economy.

so does a large portion of africa.

and the u.s. uses english as an official language, does that mean that the u.s. is part of britan?

Since when do we own Africa? :D

Oh, for the love of God people! Von Witzleben is just joking around.

How many :p 's does a man have to put in his posts before people get the hint.

(Sorry Von Witzleben, I know you were enjoying this but I'm too cranky today to sit here and watch this silliness anymore.)
Actually I was wondering how long it would take for someone to figure that out. I was starting to suspect I was in a thread filled with Americans who need [/sarcasm] tags.

Aww...but the deadly accidents are so much fun to watch!

Sure, football players have iNjUrIeS...but where is the flaming wreckage!

frankly, i'll watch a racing sport where the emphasis is on actually racing, not smoking someone into a wall every 5 minutes, Formula 1 and JGTC are great for the actual racing

Remember, everyone who drinks isn't an alcoholic and everyone who enjoys a spliff isn't gonna do crack.
Yes they are. Gazillion doctors.!!!!

Yes it is. They speak French.

Quebec doesn't speak french. They speak Quebecouis. A seriously butchered dialect of french (Not trying to insult but it is, heh. Tis much like how Newfoundland murdered english and call it Newfanese ;) ). You want truer french speaking Canadians, look for the Acadians in the Atlantic Provinces.

There are two islands just off Newfoundlands southern coast that are property of France though. St. Peirre and Miquilon... I may have spelled that wrong.

Aww...but the deadly accidents are so much fun to watch!

Sure, football players have iNjUrIeS...but where is the flaming wreckage!

I never thought of it like that. I concede to you.

Let the flaming wreckage begin!!!

Actually I was wondering how long it would take for someone to figure that out. I was starting to suspect I was in a thread filled with Americans who need [/sarcasm] tags.


Oops! Heh, my bad! I thought you were serious but just friendly about it. ^_^;;;

Big apologies for sounding like a tiwt there. ;)

i had two thoughts in my head and i wasn't sure which one was right:

1: this guys the biggest idiot i've even met
2: this guys F#$@ing with us

2: this guys F#$@ing with us
No worries. I use protection. :p

I think that the most likely thing is a peaceful union of some part of the united states and canada. the most likely portions of the us to join canada are the ones that are closest and most like us. why?

people like to be around people that have the similar values to themselves. if we are to believe the mainstream media some demographers suggest the united states is becoming more and more divided as people seek out and settle in areas where they find like minds--concentrating those areas i.e. republican areas are getting more republican as republicans move in and democrats move out. if this is true and it continues one could argue that entire regions of the country will become increasingly concentrated with people who have similar values. we all know that this happens when people emmigrate...they seek out those people that went before i.e. little italy or china town

it's interesting though since all of these people would still be americans. and presumably dividing the nation with regard to strong felt beliefs would transcend race and ethnic boundries i.e. there are black, italian, chinease and 'white' republicans. more and more interesting. how do civil wars begin in the first place?

in anycase my point is that the northern states and california mostly voted democrat and if this trend continues and strengthens then perhaps those states and canada could come to some sort of agreement. I think that this is the only way that canada will become a superpower. the combined weight of canada and those democrat states would be fearsome (lots of natural resources, lots of land, lots of heavy industry, lots of banking sector, lots of ground to make food on and lots of people)

I for one welcome the creation of The United States of Canada, but i worry about the leftover parts. Jesusland could become troublesome.

Regards
MMB

Jesusland could become troublesome.

No worries about Jesus land. Jesus will return. He'll turn water into wine. And sooner or later they'll die of abusive use of alcohol. Or from fish poisoning.

i really don't see the civil war thing happening.

i can imagine a giant drunken bar room style fight in parliment for some reason... but not a civil war here. i mean, we hardly have enough of an army to fight other countries, let alone divide them up and fight amongst ourselves.

i get the feeling that things would work themselves out eventually...

You would think that...but in actuality we have a crudload Reserve units dotting the country... And they are fairly decently equipped...

how did the U.S save Canada? i don't get it? we actually had a higher win/loss ratio than the U.S did in all the battles we fought. as a matter of Fact, Canada took Juno beach almost Single-handidly
all the battles? like three?

all the battles? like three?


Canada, like Australia and New Zealand etc were bravely fighting the nazsties with us Brits from ...............1939. ................They didn't wait to be attacked, they fought for your and my and their freedom because it was the right thing to do. And we all didn't attack a third rate power like Iraq or Vietnam. We stood up to the mightiest military machine the world had seen.
Canada needs no lectures on courage, physical and moral.

Hey...Letora is back with yet another question...

Canada is a beautiful country with plenty of natural resources... And with the world slowly draining theirs and us still having a good number... What do you think is going to happen...?

Will Canada rise up in the future years and become the next "Superpower"?

Or will Canada become the next warzone as we tear ourselves apart with civil war, invasion from another country?

*Note: The Civil War scenario revolves around the provinces eventually FIGHTING each other litterally for resources...*

Are those all the possibilities. lol

How about; Canada will continue as it is now and remain peacefull nation.