NationStates Jolt Archive

you know, i read these threads, day after day....and it seems like 90% of the people posting are in competition with each other to see who can sound the smartest. It gets OLD. Why are there so many redundant threads? "is God real?" "Why God isnt real", "thoughts of an Atheist", Thoughts of a Christian", "Is being gay a sin?" Is abortion a sin?" GOOD GRIEF! It seems Nation States is a place where people can come to argue with others online , when theyve run out of real life people to argue with. Everyone has their opinion. So why cant you all respect the differences that we have without pointing a finger and saying 'your wrong-i'm right." Its childish. I mean its really silly how some people in here will copy and paste things from a dictionary or encyclopedia in an effort to make themselves appear more intelligent than anyone else on the subject. Get over yourselves and realize that nobody knows everything. And if you need to argue that badly- go to law school and become an attorney.

It's called human nature. We have no other species capable of destroying us, so we destroy ourselves. The arguing on here is nothing more than the primitive contests to see who is stronger and the pack leader among animals.

Everyone has an opinion, but that doesn't mean everyone is right.

Besides what do you know?

hehehe.

Some people enjoy debating, and some people enjoy smoking crack. If people didn't wrangle over every stupid little thing, 1/2 of Jolt's message boards would be shut down, the other left to 15 year old gamers.

Now is this directed at the pseudo-know it alls who just act like they know it all, or is it directed at people like me who actually do know everything?

Everyone has their opinion. So why cant you all respect the differences that we have without pointing a finger and saying 'your wrong-i'm right." Its childish.

Can you even name a time in history where people did not do this?

Even Grog the caveman would point at Urg and club him for being wrong. ;)


I mean its really silly how some people in here will copy and paste things from a dictionary or encyclopedia in an effort to make themselves appear more intelligent than anyone else on the subject. Get over yourselves and realize that nobody knows everything. And if you need to argue that badly- go to law school and become an attorney.

Ahh but a dictionary and an encyclopedia are tools. And what seperates us from the other animals is our tool usage capability.

Personally; I don't know nothing!

;)

you know, i read these threads, day after day....and it seems like 90% of the people posting are in competition with each other to see who can sound the smartest. It gets OLD. Why are there so many redundant threads? "is God real?" "Why God isnt real", "thoughts of an Atheist", Thoughts of a Christian", "Is being gay a sin?" Is abortion a sin?" GOOD GRIEF! It seems Nation States is a place where people can come to argue with others online , when theyve run out of real life people to argue with. Everyone has their opinion. So why cant you all respect the differences that we have without pointing a finger and saying 'your wrong-i'm right." Its childish. I mean its really silly how some people in here will copy and paste things from a dictionary or encyclopedia in an effort to make themselves appear more intelligent than anyone else on the subject. Get over yourselves and realize that nobody knows everything. And if you need to argue that badly- go to law school and become an attorney.

Much as you may be right, there's nothing more dreary than a roomful of people nodding their heads in agreement.

Only thing i know is that i know almost nothing and most things i say are extremely wrong.

It's better to have fruitless debates on moral issues and politics, then to talk about cars and football, or boyfriends and shoes (yep i'm generalising here :D)
We may never convince eachother of our own opinion, but we at least train our rhetoric skills.

Note: Reposted from another thread, because the thread author originally posted this in one of my threads.

you know, i read these threads, day after day....and it seems like 90% of the people posting are in competition with each other to see who can sound the smartest.

Yep.

It gets OLD.

Yep. And replies along these lines get old too, oddly enough. :D

Why are there so many redundant threads? "is God real?" "Why God isnt real", "thoughts of an Atheist", Thoughts of a Christian", "Is being gay a sin?" Is abortion a sin?" GOOD GRIEF! It seems Nation States is a place where people can come to argue with others online

I wouldn't say that about NationStates, just the General forum.

when theyve run out of real life people to argue with. Everyone has their opinion. So why cant you all respect the differences that we have without pointing a finger and saying 'your wrong-i'm right." Its childish.

Productive debate is accomplished while respecting differences. Who cares if I think most people are wrong? That doesn't mean I don't respect them.

I mean its really silly how some people in here will copy and paste things from a dictionary or encyclopedia in an effort to make themselves appear more intelligent than anyone else on the subject.

I hope to God you are not talking about me, kid.

Get over yourselves and realize that nobody knows everything. And if you need to argur that badly- go to law school and become an attorney.

Or we could use the General forum in the manner it was intended to be used, which is much cheaper.

And as far as proving God exists, there probably is no proof that would satisfy an Atheist or non believer or whoever else questions his works. Youre all missing the point. If you worship God and believe in him -then thats all that matters. I love God and believe he exists and I dont need a scientific formula or some test tube theory to tell me otherwise. People who love god and pray and live their lives hoping to gain their reward in heaven, dont need physical proof. Its faith.Our faith is what keeps us going. And faith isnt dependant on physical proof. So please-try to find some different topics.
And for Gods sakes stop being so arrogant in your reponses. It just makes you look like an ass.

Irony Alert!
Redundancy and Arrogance Detected

yes but theres a difference between debating an issue and someone actually insisting they know better than the rest of us who offer up an opinion. like i said- its the arrogant insecure people who bug me with their displays of "intelligence'<cough cough>. thats all i meant.

yes but theres a difference between debating an issue and someone actually insisting they know better than the rest of us who offer up an opinion. like i said- its the arrogant insecure people who bug me with their displays of "intelligence'<cough cough>. thats all i meant.

Liberation comes from knowing you are an idiot! ;)

I'm a liberated idiot, it's a fun thing to be, you can say what you like and no one listens ;)

Note: Reposted from another thread, because the thread author originally posted this in one of my threads.



Yep.



Yep. And replies along these lines get old too, oddly enough. :D



I wouldn't say that about NationStates, just the General forum.



Productive debate is accomplished while respecting differences. Who cares if I think most people are wrong? That doesn't mean I don't respect them.



I hope to God you are not talking about me, kid.



Or we could use the General forum in the manner it was intended to be used, which is much cheaper.



Irony Alert!
Redundancy and Arrogance Detected


ahh...since my post bothered you, perhaps you fit the description of arrogant know it all. which is fine. people tend to make light of anothers point as you have mine when it strikes a nerve that you just may be an arrogant asshole. i have my opinion and you have yours. the difference is that i respect your right to have an opinion-therefore i dont have to put you down or be sarcastically offensive. btw- i'm not a "kid". i'm a 30 year old mother of 2.

People dont argue here all that much. Its hard to argue when 90% of the posters here have the same stance on everything and the other 10% are firmly rooted in their beliefs to be swayed but too stubborn to give up.

you know, i read these threads, day after day....and it seems like 90% of the people posting are in competition with each other to see who can sound the smartest.

I agree. God forbid bid anyone try to sound intelligent. I mean the nerve of people. Why can't everybody just talk about the latest episode of Survivor? Jeez, you would think people here have some strange, wacked out notion that discussion and debate are important in democratic societies.

Can't people just shut up and go about the business of consuming goods and stop questioning political, philosophical, or religious issues that are really none of our business. After all that is what we have leaders for, isn't it?

I mean its really silly how some people in here will copy and paste things from a dictionary or encyclopedia in an effort to make themselves appear more intelligent than anyone else on the subject. Get over yourselves and realize that nobody knows everything. And if you need to argue that badly- go to law school and become an attorney.

You mean like this?

Your knowledge, or lack or knowledge of the law is amusing. I guess I can show you better than I can tell you. The dictionary defines rape as the following: (notice the word force )

rape

Pronunciation: (rAp), [key]
—n., v., raped, rap•ing.

—n.
1. the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
3. See statutory rape.
4. an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.
5. Archaic.the act of seizing and carrying off by force.

—v.t.
1. to force to have sexual intercourse.
2. to plunder (a place); despoil.
3. to seize, take, or carry off by force.

—v.i.
to commit rape.

rape

Pronunciation: (rAp), [key]
—n.
a plant, Brassica napus, of the mustard family, whose leaves are used for food for hogs, sheep, etc., and whose seeds yield rape oil.

rape

Pronunciation: (rAp), [key]
—n.
the residue of grapes, after the juice has been extracted, used as a filter in making vinegar.


ALSO- here is the legislative authorities definition of rape:
RAPE - The carnal knowledge of a woman by a man (or vice versa) forcibly and unlawfully against her will. The knowledge of the woman's person must be forcibly and against her will; and if her consent has not been voluntarily and freely given, (when she has the power to consent,) the offence will be complete, nor will any subsequent acquiescence on her part do away the guilt of the ravisher. A consent obtained from a woman by actual violence, by duress or threats of murder, or by the administration of stupefying drugs, is not such a consent as will shield the offender, nor turn his crime into adultery or fornication.

Quoted by Lexicon's Law Library

You are narrow sighted and have a weak unfounded argument. Dont insult my intelligence again with your condescending remarks.


I suggest that everyone look through the peechland's post history before even addressing this. It is all flamy nonsense.

People dont argue here all that much. Its hard to argue when 90% of the posters here have the same stance on everything and the other 10% are firmly rooted in their beliefs to be swayed but too stubborn to give up.


well i guess i started a thread about arguing about arguing. LOL....sorry folks- i'll try and do better next time. i was just making a point because i was tired of seeing certain members act as if they are superior to the rest of the world.

ahh...since my post bothered you, perhaps you fit the description of arrogant know it all. which is fine. people tend to make light of anothers point as you have mine when it strikes a nerve that you just may be an arrogant asshole. i have my opinion and you have yours. the difference is that i respect your right to have an opinion-therefore i dont have to put you down or be sarcastically offensive. btw- i'm not a "kid". i'm a 30 year old mother of 2.

1.) You're still a kid. We all are, in some way. Admitting it is the first step.

2.) I respect your right to have an opinion, just not your opinion itself, and certainly not the hypocritical way you expressed it.

3.) I am an arrogant asshole who doen't know it all. This is something I freely admit.

4.) You were just being arrogant while whining about arrogance. You don't need to get defensive or self-righteous when I point this out.

5.) You put down pretty much the whole General forum. I find it odd that you suddenly don't approve of put downs.

You mean like this?



I suggest that everyone look through the peechland's post history before even addressing this. It is all flamy nonsense.


wow - i bet you were a hall monitor in school. if you will read the other replies and conversations of that thread, youd see that we were actually discussing text definition of the word rape. someone had said the definition of rape has nothing to do with force, which is clearly not true. my use of the dictionary was to show this person that yes force is included in the definition of rape.

Now apparently you don't see the greatness of this forum. In my opinion it is great to see so many people expressing their opinions (sure it might get old to see the same topics covered over and over, but then you get all the opinions you'll ever need) together at once.

1.) You're still a kid. We all are, in some way. Admitting it is the first step.

2.) I respect your right to have an opinion, just not your opinion itself, and certainly not the hypocritical way you expressed it.

3.) I am an arrogant asshole who doen't know it all. This is something I freely admit.

4.) You were just being arrogant while whining about arrogance. You don't need to get defensive or self-righteous when I point this out.

5.) You put down pretty much the whole General forum. I find it odd that you suddenly don't approve of put downs.

whatever drama queen...you and national security over there can disect my words all you want and twist them into something that will make me look bad. i only stated the truth about people on here who act like they know it all. there are a lot who would agree with me i'm sure. so put your weapons down and cease fire. if you respect my right to have an opinion-then you wouldnt come on with this personal attack.

Everyone has their opinion. So why cant you all respect the differences that we have without pointing a finger and saying 'your wrong-i'm right." Its childish.
You are right: "Everyone has their own opinion." If everyone just keeps his or her opinions to his- or herself, than what use are they? If opinions are not expressed and stood up for, what do they matter? If knowledge is had but not shared, what use is it? The passing on of learning is one of social species' most important qualities, humans being the most advanced of all of them. And, besides, everyone's opinions will stagnate and never change if they aren't challenged. If you don't like reading it, don't. You have the power.

I mean its really silly how some people in here will copy and paste things from a dictionary or encyclopedia in an effort to make themselves appear more intelligent than anyone else on the subject.
Hmmm...I didn't know anyone did this. I don't ever consult outside sources just to pseudo-prove I'm intelligent or learned. I usually wouldn't need to if I did, anyways.

And if you need to argue that badly- go to law school and become an attorney.
Or we could use public fora for what they were intended for--honest and open discussion on topics that matter to the people discussing. I know this is a revolutionary idea, it's only been around since at least ancient Grecian times, but but try to get used to it. Try.

The only "know-it-alls" that bother me are the obnoxious ones that don't think anyone else's opinions matter. If you don't like the general forum, don't post here.

1.) You're still a kid. We all are, in some way. Admitting it is the first step.

2.) I respect your right to have an opinion, just not your opinion itself, and certainly not the hypocritical way you expressed it.

3.) I am an arrogant asshole who doen't know it all. This is something I freely admit.

4.) You were just being arrogant while whining about arrogance. You don't need to get defensive or self-righteous when I point this out.

5.) You put down pretty much the whole General forum. I find it odd that you suddenly don't approve of put downs.



Did you ever see the movie 'I Love You, Alice B. Toklas' with Peter Sellers? There's a great bit where Sellers and his female co-star get into an argument over being 'unhip'.

-You're being very unhip.

-I'm being unhip? You're being unhip for saying that I'm being unhip.

-That's very unhip of you.


You're making me laugh...both of you. Now quit it. Before it catches on.

DT.

wow - i bet you were a hall monitor in school. if you will read the other replies and conversations of that thread, youd see that we were actually discussing text definition of the word rape. someone had said the definition of rape has nothing to do with force, which is clearly not true. my use of the dictionary was to show this person that yes force is included in the definition of rape.


Whatever, you were doing exactly what you now complain about others doing. That makes you a hypocrite. Plus you flame and insult anyone who does not agree with you.

i just cant believe that everyone else on here can state their opinions about something and then i get attacked for doing exactly that. wtf? THATS whats hypocritical

Whatever, you were doing exactly what you now complain about others doing. That makes you a hypocrite. Plus you flame and insult anyone who does not agree with you.

no i wasnt and no i am not.

Did you ever see the movie 'I Love You, Alice B. Toklas' with Peter Sellers? There's a great bit where Sellers and his female co-star get into an argument over being 'unhip'.

-You're being very unhip.

-I'm being unhip? You're being unhip for saying that I'm being unhip.

-That's very unhip of you.


You're making me laugh...both of you. Now quit it. Before it catches on.

DT.

You're right, DT. I was being silly. My apologies.

I should have been truly condescending and ignored the post entirely. :D

no i wasnt and no i am not.


Read what you posted. In fact didn't you just say "wow - I bet you were a hall monitor."

You are a total hypocrite, you complain about people cutting and pasting from dictionaries in order to act in a condescending manner to others, yet when you do it it's perfectly justified.

That's hypocracy; by any definition.

How do you know that the other people here aren't enjoying themselves with these debates? What business is it of yours what threads are started or how people choose to interact, you are not a mod. You seem to think that just because you don't like something, or because someone disagrees with you they should be silenced.

Plus the tone of your first post in this thread could very well be considered flame bait as it insults the practically the whole of general. Maybe somone should post it in moderation and find out?

If you don't like it, don't come here, there are other fora.

you must like drama. i should have known this would get all twisted up by people like you. and i dont even know what flaming or flame baiting or whatever you said means. i think i will take your advice and seek another forum.

You mean like this?



I suggest that everyone look through the peechland's post history before even addressing this. It is all flamy nonsense.


Ummm...ouch

Strangely enough, topics like this one have become almost as common as the threads they talk about. They've been around longer than most of you have been on NS. Nothing has changed with them, and wont change with this version.

Strangely enough, topics like this one have become almost as common as the threads they talk about. They've been around longer than most of you have been on NS. Nothing has changed with them, and wont change with this version.

Yeah. I mentioned that these posts are just as OLD as any other in my first response to the thread author.

ATTENTION people who address people who think they know it all.

You don't either ;)

Yeah. I mentioned that these posts are just as OLD as any other in my first response to the thread author.


You did, too. That explains that giant red 'Irony Alert' I saw when I scrolled down to reply after only reading the first post :D

You did, too. That explains that giant red 'Irony Alert' I saw when I scrolled down to reply after only reading the first post :D

Yes. Ahem. *straightens tie*

If people didn't argue about everything, this world would be boring. It's the mixture of ideas and views which keep it interesting. It can get childish, yes but can also be productive or interesting. Just depends on the way you look at it.

you must like drama. i should have known this would get all twisted up by people like you. and i dont even know what flaming or flame baiting or whatever you said means. i think i will take your advice and seek another forum.


So you critize others about their behavior on this forum, and you haven't even bothered to read the stickies ? :rolleyes:

As I said, this is all flamy nonsense.

It seems Nation States is a place where people can come to argue with others online.

Wow, what a novel thought. Why didn't some one think of this before? We could call it a message board, or no, better yet, a forum! Freaking brilliant! :rolleyes:

you know, i read these threads, day after day....and it seems like 90% of the people posting are in competition with each other to see who can sound the smartest. It gets OLD. Why are there so many redundant threads? "is God real?" "Why God isnt real", "thoughts of an Atheist", Thoughts of a Christian", "Is being gay a sin?" Is abortion a sin?" GOOD GRIEF! It seems Nation States is a place where people can come to argue with others online , when theyve run out of real life people to argue with. Everyone has their opinion. So why cant you all respect the differences that we have without pointing a finger and saying 'your wrong-i'm right." Its childish. I mean its really silly how some people in here will copy and paste things from a dictionary or encyclopedia in an effort to make themselves appear more intelligent than anyone else on the subject. Get over yourselves and realize that nobody knows everything. And if you need to argue that badly- go to law school and become an attorney.

Democrats know that they're right, they're morally and intellectually superior.

Wow, what a novel thought. Why didn't some one think of this before? We could call it a message board, or no, better yet, a forum! Freaking brilliant! :rolleyes:

LOL

Wow, what a novel thought. Why didn't some one think of this before? We could call it a message board, or no, better yet, a forum! Freaking brilliant! :rolleyes:


Brilliant.