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I'm surprised this hasn't come up yet.

http://www.jfkreloaded.net/

Its a game called JFK Reloaded, what you have to do is recreate the assasination of JFK - you play as Lee Harvey Oswald. There's a prize (£1,000,000) for the person who most acuratley recreates the famous three shots. Its causing a fair bit of contriversy up here (Scotland, where it was made). What do you guys think? The makers are claiming that it's an educational tool, the familly is obviously not pleased.

I don't see why this is such a big deal. There are war simulations available, people play them all the time.

I don't see a problem with either. Yet, I was pretty sure the Kennedy family would not be pleased with this. But there is a Titanic game and no one from the Titanic complained.

On the subject of that...

Look at the War Simulators...

Where you play as someone who actually killed someone else who had a family in war... Isn't that technically the same thing as JFK reloaded?

War widows and families of soldiers killed in war haven't said much about that either...

Like pretty much everyone else has said, I don't see why there's such a fuss made about it. Yes, it deals with an assasination but there have been conspiracy theories and want not far worse than this and it hasn't gotten this kind of attention. Touchy subject, yes but something to start a controversy over, no.

This is much worse than a war simulation. This is a simulation of premeditated murder.

This is much worse than a war simulation. This is a simulation of premeditated murder.

No its the same thing. Do you shoot people in war simulators? Yes.

Also, animation simulators are made on TV. So people see a computer animation of the assassination anyways.

This is much worse than a war simulation. This is a simulation of premeditated murder.
So is Grand Theft Auto.

Like pretty much everyone else has said, I don't see why there's such a fuss made about it. Yes, it deals with an assasination but there have been conspiracy theories and want not far worse than this and it hasn't gotten this kind of attention. Touchy subject, yes but something to start a controversy over, no.

This isn't a theory. This is a game that offers 1 million dollars to whoever can most realistically murder the president. Using this for "education" is questionable enough, but offering a prize is terrible.

So is Grand Theft Auto.

Grand Theft Auto is presented as little more than a cartoon or movie. This oversteps that boundary.

Grand Theft Auto is presented as little more than a cartoon or movie. This oversteps that boundary.
So if you'd play Homer Simpson and were to reenact the JFK assination, it would be okay?

This isn't a theory. This is a game that offers 1 million dollars to whoever can most realistically murder the president. Using this for "education" is questionable enough, but offering a prize is terrible.

Your learning about the assassination by doing it.

I'm sure EA Games has a competiton on how fast you can make it to the edge of the beach during Normandy.

This isn't a theory. This is a game that offers 1 million dollars to whoever can most realistically murder the president. Using this for "education" is questionable enough, but offering a prize is terrible.



This looks like missions in MOHAA or Call of Duty where you have to shoot a German officer driving through a town or something and you're in a tower. I know it isn't a theory but I'm saying there have been things worse than this before (if you're into conspiracies, that is).

So if you'd play Homer Simpson and were to reenact the JFK assination, it would be okay?

I would SO buy that game!

So if you'd play Homer Simpson and were to reenact the JFK assination, it would be okay?

Entertaining yes, ok? Not in my opinion. But just because I find a game offensive doesn't mean it shouldn't be released.

I more or less question their motives in releasing this game. It seems to be a profiteering scheme. Where is the "Hijack a plane, and fly into the WTC" game. We could call it "9/11 Reloaded".

This looks like missions in MOHAA or Call of Duty where you have to shoot a German officer driving through a town or something and you're in a tower. I know it isn't a theory but I'm saying there have been things worse than this before (if you're into conspiracies, that is).

JFK was a real person. He had a family and has children who now have to live with the fact that there is a video game where the goal is to murder their father.

The Point of the game is not to kill the president. The point of the game is to prove the Warren Commission is correct. They programmed the game so the reload time is the same, and the car takes the same path. The point is to see if it was possible to make those three shots in the same spots at the same times, and have the outcome the same. It is an investigative tool.

JFK was a real person. He had a family and has children who now have to live with the fact that there is a video game where the goal is to murder their father.

True...but Medal Of Honour and Call Of Duty is about killing German Soldiers... Most of them who were not with the Nazi Party and the SS and were trying to protect their families...

We re-enact that everyday... And those German Soldiers were real people...

True...but Medal Of Honour and Call Of Duty is about killing German Soldiers... Most of them who were not with the Nazi Party and the SS and were trying to protect their families...

We re-enact that everyday... And those German Soldiers were real people...

The characters in that I would assume are based on German soldiers and are not true German officers.

The Point of the game is not to kill the president. The point of the game is to prove the Warren Commission is correct. They programmed the game so the reload time is the same, and the car takes the same path. The point is to see if it was possible to make those three shots in the same spots at the same times, and have the outcome the same. It is an investigative tool.

I will believe that when I see it. If anybody plays the game, describe all of the evidence it provides, please.

Aren't the people behind it republicans? Or other weirdo's from Jezusland?

Aren't the people behind it republicans? Or other weirdo's from Jezusland?

Please, please tell me this is sarcasm. If it is, next time add some rolly eyes or something.

The fact that so many oppose this, then glorify war and war games only proves how hypocritical and sick society is.

"One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic."

Go look for yourselves - http://www.jfkreloaded.net/

The game was created to help debunk the idea that Oswald worked alone.
That's the reason behind the large amount of the game winning prize. If
you can make the same shots as Oswald they'll give you "up to" $100,000.

Ted Kennedy is just upset about this, because he had his brother killed.

I wouldn't pay 9.99 to play such a simplistic game, but the idea of playing
the bad guy appeals to me. I'd like to have a game that lets you infiltrate
the White House to assassinate GW, or even you that wants you to kill the
Queen Mater. Put it in the same style as Hitman and I'll buy it and enjoy it.

The fact that so many oppose this, then glorify war and war games only proves how hypocritical and sick society is.

"One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic."

I never glorified war games for one.

Two, to me there is a line between the two. Where as other games maintained a fictional feel where you were kill fictional characters, this one involves the murder of a true person, and one that touched the lives of many, many people.

I never glorified war games for one.

Two, to me there is a line between the two. Where as other games maintained a fictional feel where you were kill fictional characters, this one involves the murder of a true person, and one that touched the lives of many, many people.

It's a game. Deal with it.

Go look for yourselves - http://www.jfkreloaded.net/

The game was created to help debunk the idea that Oswald worked alone.
That's the reason behind the large amount of the game winning prize. If
you can make the same shots as Oswald they'll give you "up to" $100,000.

Ted Kennedy is just upset about this, because he had his brother killed.

I wouldn't pay 9.99 to play such a simplistic game, but the idea of playing
the bad guy appeals to me. I'd like to have a game that lets you infiltrate
the White House to assassinate GW, or even you that wants you to kill the
Queen Mater. Put it in the same style as Hitman and I'll buy it and enjoy it.

How about we make a video game where we get to infiltrate your house and assassinate you! Sounds like a good idea. I can't wait to beat you down with a baseball bat.

Get a life, loser.

The game is in poor taste, especially since you're Oswald.

It's a game. Deal with it.

I understand that, it's still offensive to me, and this entire thread has been about people's thoughts concerning this game.

I also understand that there is nothing I can or should do to prohibit this game.

Aren't the people behind it republicans? Or other weirdo's from Jezusland?
:rolleyes: And there it is. 1.5 pages in. Took a while to insult both christians and Republicans. Trite.

:rolleyes: And there it is. 1.5 pages in. Took a while to insult both christians and Republicans. Trite.

So do you just scroll through threads looking for some asshole to apply your worthless cynicism and :rolleyes: to?

I want to point out that that post was virtually ignored by this thread and represented the views of no one but him.

I understand that, it's still offensive to me, and this entire thread has been about people's thoughts concerning this game.

I also understand that there is nothing I can or should do to prohibit this game.

Okay, you have every right to feel offended.

So is Grand Theft Auto.
And San Andreas is actually fun.

We can all understand where those who find it offensive are coming from. However, I do feel it should not be so publicized as a video game and something for fun when they're calling it an educational tool. Sure, it'd be nice to see if one man killing President Kennedy was possible, but why encourage it to people who want to play it for the blood and gore?

Woah we're still arguing about this...?

We make games and flash videos that involve causing harm to George Bush... He's an American President... But everyone seems to think that's okay...

I mean cmon...it's a game...


Areyoukiddingme
And there it is. 1.5 pages in. Took a while to insult both christians and Republicans. Trite.

I'm a Roman Catholic Christian... And I fail to see where this "insults" us... and if it does... who cares... I'm sure I insult an atheist somehow unconciously everyday I mention that I believe in God or Jesus is our savior or something...

Entertaining yes, ok? Not in my opinion. But just because I find a game offensive doesn't mean it shouldn't be released.

I more or less question their motives in releasing this game. It seems to be a profiteering scheme. Where is the "Hijack a plane, and fly into the WTC" game. We could call it "9/11 Reloaded".


As for crashing a plane into a tower to recreate 9/11, you can do that in the new GTA game.

I for one think that this should be the beginning of a new internet fad where horrible tragedies are recreated in game-form so people can reenact them.

It's an idea i know I have had for ages (not the jfk thing specifically) and I know that others must also, others who know how to make computer games.

I suppose the only thing i'd oppose is a shoot-MLK game, because that would be throwing a bone to white trash racists.

I'm not American but I find it disturbing that people think it is ok to make an entertainment game out of someone's murder. It isn't the violence that concerns me, the violence is quite low in terms of video games, but it is the insensitivity and disrespect to the victim's family.

For goodness sake, they didn't have to make a game out of it. The animation was sufficient enough to prove that Oswald likley did it by his little old self(though this doesn't lay to rest some problems, like the shooting of Officer Tippet for example), without having to make a game. It's just a lame excuse, and people are actually buying it. War games, like say Medal of Honour, don't single out individuals. You're just some fictional guy running round in the middle of a fictional battle set in World War Whatever, fighting nameless, faceless, fictional Germans. This is different; you are recreating an actual murder, exactly how it happened in real life. Not that I'm too keen on violent video games, anyway. I generally draw the line at Age of Empires and the likes.

I'll close with saying this: what if somebody decided to make a game on another murder? Plenty spring to mind and I'm sure the same justification for JFKReloaded could be applied.

I'm not comfortable with the fact that people might potentially be ok with a game on, say, the OJ Simpson case… I wonder where you draw the line?

I for one think that this should be the beginning of a new internet fad where horrible tragedies are recreated in game-form so people can reenact them.

So you are fine with someone making a game based on, say, the JonBenet Ramsey murder? "We can prove the parents did it, come play our game."

I don't usually agree with the conservatives and their rants about moral decay, but this time they are right.

Am I the first one here to say I've played the 'game'? I made a post about this a couple days ago when it first appeared on CNN.

First, let me say it is 'edutainment' and not a first person shooter. In order to get a perfect score, not only do you have to make the same three shots in the same places, but they have to be at exactly the same time as determined in the report. You actually have to do research to get a good score. This isn't meant for fun, but it is meant to prove the lone gunman theory.

The prize is there to get more people to try and reproduce the report. If they are giving away the $100,000 dollar prize, do you realize they would have to sell over 10,000 copies of this game to make a profit? This alone tells me they aren't doing it for personal gain.

As for the actual game, it is amazing. The physics engine is unreal, and the analysis is completely in-depth. Anyone who is interested in forensics would be interested in the detail it shows of the bullet paths. Sure, it recreates a terrible and tragic part of our history, but hasn't Hollywood done that for years?

Sure, it recreates a terrible and tragic part of our history, but hasn't Hollywood done that for years?

Finally, a good point. Still though, I wonder if that is not 'different'...

BTW - I am currently watching a British documentary which is using similar animations (if not that same) to look at the assassination. Like I said, they didn't have to actually make it into a game to prove the point, the doco did just fine...

Sure, the interactive part is different from what we are used to, but how much money did movies like "Titantic" or "Pearl Harbor" make? And I didn't see them giving any money back to the people who learned a thing or two.

I am not suprised that they would use animations from the game to prove their points. Like I said, it is unbelievably in-depth.

So you are fine with someone making a game based on, say, the JonBenet Ramsey murder? "We can prove the parents did it, come play our game."

I don't usually agree with the conservatives and their rants about moral decay, but this time they are right.



That particular murder is a media circus. So is the OJ simpson murder.

Who cares if it gets turned into a game? I wouldnt mind playing a game where i shot jon benet ramses or whatever just to get my frustration out for all the time wasted by the media on it.

The only lines I draw are these:
The game should be about a celebrated crime, one that has already recieved vast media attention and the details of which are rather common knowledge.

The game should not be about a racist crime, as that is fodder for racist white trash.

That particular murder is a media circus. So is the OJ simpson murder.

The same could be said for most murders that make the headlines. But that is utterly missing the point.

Who cares if it gets turned into a game? I wouldnt mind playing a game where i shot jon benet ramses or whatever just to get my frustration out for all the time wasted by the media on it.

You wouldn't be shooting her. You'd be strangling her and possibly raping her. But I suppose you wouldn't mind that either. I'm going to pretend you didn't say that, because that is just sick and disrespectful.

The same could be said for most murders that make the headlines. But that is utterly missing the point.



You wouldn't be shooting her. You'd be strangling her and possibly raping her. But I suppose you wouldn't mind that either. I'm going to pretend you didn't say that, because that is just sick and disrespectful.


The rape part i must say i'd balk at, but by god if pushing buttons on my computer made the screen look like that object of endless media whoring was getting throttled, I'd shell out five bucks.

Disrespectful? how much money do jon benet ramses' parents have? Celebrity is well paid.