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Jesus would be a hippy.

Definitely not. There are any number of passages in the Bible which indicate that all Christians are to be subject to civil authority. Some examples:

"Render unto Caeser things which are Caeser's, and unto God things which are God's."

"The magistrate does not wield the sword in vain, for he is God's representative for order."

There are lots more, but you will have to look them up for yourself. :)

Nope.

"Give to Ceasar what is Caesar's, give to God what is God's."

Implied recognition of secular governmental authority. :D

"Render unto Caeser things which are Caeser's, and unto God things which are God's."

of course, the bit right before this explicitly tells you that jesus was being a tricky bastard when he said it.

"The magistrate does not wield the sword in vain, for he is God's representative for order."

sound's like paul - where's it from?

Nope.

"Give to Ceasar what is Caesar's, give to God what is God's."

Implied recognition of secular governmental authority. :D

13Later they sent some of the Pharisees and Herodians to Jesus to catch him in his words. 14They came to him and said, "Teacher, we know you are a man of integrity. You aren't swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are; but you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not? 15Should we pay or shouldn't we?"
16But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. "Why are you trying to trap me?" he asked. "Bring me a denarius and let me look at it." They brought the coin, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?"
"Caesar's," they replied.
17Then Jesus said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's."
And they were amazed at him.

the meaning is more like, let caesar have his stupid money, we do not need it or want it.

Hardly. Jesus believes that God should be deferred to and worshipped.

Any Hierarchist cannot be an anarchist.

Jesus would be a liberal in any case, higher taxes, health care for all, rehabilitation over punishment.... The good stuff....

Sadly, Moses (from my religion) would be a conservative, authoritarianist, hatred of anyone who opposes him..... that sorta thing....

Jesus would be a liberal in any case, higher taxes, health care for all, rehabilitation over punishment.... The good stuff....

Sadly, Moses (from my religion) would be a conservative, authoritarianist, hatred of anyone who opposes him..... that sorta thing....


Ah, of course. The good stuff... :rolleyes:

Your definition of anarchist is someone who rebels against authority. However, that is not what anarchism is, so the question is rather void.

sound's like paul - where's it from?

Romans 13:3-4 ...

3. "For civil authorities are not a terror to people of good conduct, but to those of bad behavior. Would you have no dread of him who is in authority? Then do what is right and you will recieve his approval and commendation."

4. "For he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, you should dread him and be afraid, for he does not bear and wear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant to execute His wrath ( punishment, vengence ) on the wrongdoer."

Originally Posted by mark 12
13Later they sent some of the Pharisees and Herodians to Jesus to catch him in his words. 14They came to him and said, "Teacher, we know you are a man of integrity. You aren't swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are; but you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not? 15Should we pay or shouldn't we?"
16But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. "Why are you trying to trap me?" he asked. "Bring me a denarius and let me look at it." They brought the coin, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?"
"Caesar's," they replied.
17Then Jesus said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's."
And they were amazed at him.



someone that interprets correctly wrote: the meaning is more like, let caesar have his stupid money, we do not need it or want it.


Thank you for understanding the truth to that. Money don't mean fucking shit to God. "No formalities" and "no labels" sums that up fairly well.

To the person saying anarchism does not involve rebellion to authority. Dictionary defi: Rejection of all forms of coercive control and authority: “He was inclined to anarchism; he hated system and organization and uniformity” (Bertrand Russell