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JFK Assassination...the game?

Neo-Tommunism
22-11-2004, 01:10
Link: http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/21/kennedy.game.reut/index.html

In an attempt to show that a lone gunman could have shot President Kennedy, a new video game is being released where the player gets to assassinate the president. Everything is digitally recreated, and the player gets to shoot three times at the president. Points are awarded for making the shots historically correct. Apparently, you lose points for shooting the first lady.

I don't think there is much wrong with this game, as long as it historically recreates the event. I guess it's just my curiosity, but I think the game would be interesting. What do you think?
New Genoa
22-11-2004, 01:14
It's freedom of speech. People need to grow thicker skin.
Andaluciae
22-11-2004, 01:14
I guess it doesn't seem that bad, just so long as it is to enlighten people.
Santa Barbara
22-11-2004, 01:21
Link: http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/21/kennedy.game.reut/index.html

In an attempt to show that a lone gunman could have shot President Kennedy, a new video game is being released where the player gets to assassinate the president. Everything is digitally recreated, and the player gets to shoot three times at the president. Points are awarded for making the shots historically correct. Apparently, you lose points for shooting the first lady.

I don't think there is much wrong with this game, as long as it historically recreates the event. I guess it's just my curiosity, but I think the game would be interesting. What do you think?

It's bad, wrong, and immoral!

Video games these days are informative... TOO informative. This is an excellent example! teaching children how to assassinate the President?

Just goes to show, thanks to the LIBERALS, and their computer games, kids everywhere learn everything there is to know to shoot people, deal drugs, engage in prostitution, and tower rush vs night elf!
Vittos Ordination
22-11-2004, 01:22
So a Scottish gaming firm takes a stand and tries to show that the Kennedy assassination conspiracies are bunk? Bullshit, they don't care about that, that may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Remember that these are the assholes who released "State of Emergency" that was a right in which the goal was to kill as many people as possible. Now they are taking a stand on history?!! Bullshit. This is foreign profiteering on a national tragedy.
CSW
22-11-2004, 01:24
It's bad, wrong, and immoral!

Video games these days are informative... TOO informative. This is an excellent example! teaching children how to assassinate the President?

Just goes to show, thanks to the LIBERALS, and their computer games, kids everywhere learn everything there is to know to shoot people, deal drugs, engage in prostitution, and tower rush vs night elf!
GOD DAMN LIBERALS!

(Lol tower rush v night elfs)
Bobdia
22-11-2004, 01:26
Eh, it's a game. Though shooting aliens is more fun.
Neo-Tommunism
22-11-2004, 01:33
So a Scottish gaming firm takes a stand and tries to show that the Kennedy assassination conspiracies are bunk? Bullshit, they don't care about that, that may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Remember that these are the assholes who released "State of Emergency" that was a right in which the goal was to kill as many people as possible. Now they are taking a stand on history?!! Bullshit. This is foreign profiteering on a national tragedy.

It wasn't made by the same people who made "State of Emergency", just released by them. Traffic Games developed it, I believe. Besides, let me know if I'm wrong, but didn't the Kennedys immigrate from Scotland or Ireland?
Andaluciae
22-11-2004, 01:34
So a Scottish gaming firm takes a stand and tries to show that the Kennedy assassination conspiracies are bunk? Bullshit, they don't care about that, that may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Remember that these are the assholes who released "State of Emergency" that was a right in which the goal was to kill as many people as possible. Now they are taking a stand on history?!! Bullshit. This is foreign profiteering on a national tragedy.

Didn't Rockstar make State of Emergency?
Quaint Svengali
22-11-2004, 01:35
It's bad, wrong, and immoral!

Video games these days are informative... TOO informative. This is an excellent example! teaching children how to assassinate the President?

Just goes to show, thanks to the LIBERALS, and their computer games, kids everywhere learn everything there is to know to shoot people, deal drugs, engage in prostitution, and tower rush vs night elf!

What the HELL does a liberal political orientation (assuming that this was even the case) have to do with this game? Remember that it is mostly you simple-minded, flag-draped, Bible-toting, moralizing conservative cultists (sorry, that's redundant) pushing the "government's always right and knows what's best for you" mantra at everyone!

Given this, and the game's goal of disproving the conspiracy theories, it is more likely a conservative yes-man is behind this game.
Neo-Tommunism
22-11-2004, 01:36
Didn't Rockstar make State of Emergency?

Yes, and it was released by this Scottish firm called VIS.
Vittos Ordination
22-11-2004, 01:39
My bad, I misinterpreted the article. I still, however, feel that they are profiteering with this game, and simply offering up bullshit reasons.
Chodolo
22-11-2004, 01:40
It's freedom of speech. People need to grow thicker skin.
Exactly. If you don't like it, don't play it.
IDF
22-11-2004, 01:48
I've killed over 25,000 people on GTA:SA. I don't see why people complain when you are only killing 1 man in a game. Sheesh!!!
Neo-Tommunism
22-11-2004, 01:49
My bad, I misinterpreted the article. I still, however, feel that they are profiteering with this game, and simply offering up bullshit reasons.

For me, it really depends on how the game is presented. If they throw stars, and smiley faces all over the place, with fast-paced assassination musak, then I think they went a little too far.

*Congratulations! You've killed the President!!*

It all really depends on if this game is classified as a first person shooter or edutainment. Plus they aren't making too much money, the game is only $9.99.
Utonium
22-11-2004, 01:54
Actually, it looks like VIS had nothing at all to do with the game, except for this executive Ewing.

As for State of Emergency, it was developed by VIS and published by Rockstar. (VIS brought that same engine to the Powerpuff Girls' PS2 game Relish Rampage, so I'm assuming they were the actual coders.) And the point wasn't to kill everyone: it was to overthrow the corrupt corporate government. Even in Chaos mode, there are penalties for killing civilians. *loves that game*

But instead of critiquing the morality of the game, why not critique its gameplay? Kennedy or no, 10 bucks is way too much for one level and three shots. Even Pong had more variety than this.
Superpower07
22-11-2004, 01:59
Hey, do you get to play as the person who shot Lee Harvey Oswald?
Neo-Tommunism
22-11-2004, 02:03
Very true, gameplay doesn't look that inviting. You can only assassinate JFK so many times, and you can only "accidently" shoot the first lady so many more. But then again, has there ever been a fun edutainment game? I suspect the game will be used in future shows on the history channel, however. It is a good way to graphically show what happened.
Hammolopolis
22-11-2004, 02:04
My bad, I misinterpreted the article. I still, however, feel that they are profiteering with this game, and simply offering up bullshit reasons.
Welcome to capitalism.
What are you some kind of commie!?

But seriously, it is just about free enterprise. Its not a whole lot different than those country stars who made songs about 9/11, they profited from a national tragedy.
Neo-Tommunism
22-11-2004, 02:09
Welcome to capitalism.
What are you some kind of commie!?

But seriously, it is just about free enterprise. Its not a whole lot different than those country stars who made songs about 9/11, they profited from a national tragedy.


At least these guys waited a couple decades. The country singers had songs out within months.
My country not yours
22-11-2004, 02:10
i personally dont have any problem with this game, but to me it sounds like a complete waste of money. $9.99 in a game that all you do is shoot one guy?
that sucks

you dont learn how to shoot a gun from a video game, there are so many factors in shooting such as wind, breathing, stance ect. that not all video games have and pushing buttons with your thumb and holding a controler is nowhere near like actually shooting a gun. If i play a game on brain surgery does that mean i can now do brain surgery? or even if i read a book on flying a plane but have never even seen a plane can i now a fly a plane?
Utonium
22-11-2004, 02:14
Hey, do you get to play as the person who shot Lee Harvey Oswald?
Now that would be a fun sequel.

RUBY '63:
He can't go above the law.
He can't go around the law.
He'll have to go through it.

And in each round, you have to fight your way past more dim-witted officers in order to plug Oswald. Do I smell profit?
New Genoa
22-11-2004, 03:53
What the HELL does a liberal political orientation (assuming that this was even the case) have to do with this game? Remember that it is mostly you simple-minded, flag-draped, Bible-toting, moralizing conservative cultists (sorry, that's redundant) pushing the "government's always right and knows what's best for you" mantra at everyone!

Given this, and the game's goal of disproving the conspiracy theories, it is more likely a conservative yes-man is behind this game.

*sarcasm alert* *sarcasm alert*
New Genoa
22-11-2004, 03:54
i personally dont have any problem with this game, but to me it sounds like a complete waste of money. $9.99 in a game that all you do is shoot one guy?
that sucks

True, true.
Zincite
22-11-2004, 04:19
I think that's despicable. It doesn't disprove conspiracy theories as a video game is nothing like a real gun, and frankly JFK's memory ought to be respected, not turned into a video game experiment.

But no censoring it, free speech and all. *sigh* It's a trademark of me that I can think something is utterly sick and wrong and yet still believe it should be allowed.
Layarteb
22-11-2004, 04:27
I just have no idea how I feel about it. I think I am going to get it but I still don't know how I feel about it. Wierd...
JRV
22-11-2004, 04:32
All I can say is wtf? I find it kind of disturbing personally that people would actually make a game like that and furthermore that people would actually buy it.

If you're going to make a game on the JFK assassination, then why not make one on every damn controversial murder... to set the records straight? Set the records straight my foot. The animation video they made was sufficient enough without having to make it into an actual video game...
Neo-Tommunism
22-11-2004, 06:38
Just to let you all know, you can download the game for free at www.jfkreloaded.com. The $9.99 comes in if you want to be able to shoot and win $100,000 dollars from the contest....
G Dubyah
22-11-2004, 06:45
Extremely distasteful.

Next we will see videogames on how to lynch a black man.

Let the good times roll!
Goed Twee
22-11-2004, 06:49
Very true, gameplay doesn't look that inviting. You can only assassinate JFK so many times, and you can only "accidently" shoot the first lady so many more. But then again, has there ever been a fun edutainment game? I suspect the game will be used in future shows on the history channel, however. It is a good way to graphically show what happened.

Hey, Oregon Trail was the shit back in the day :p

And Real Life, while not TOO educational and really not all THAT entertaining, was at least humerous at times :p
Neo-Tommunism
22-11-2004, 07:14
Did I mention you can win $100,000 dollars for correctly assassinating JFK the best? Check out www.jfkreloaded.com.
JRV
22-11-2004, 07:27
Very true, gameplay doesn't look that inviting. You can only assassinate JFK so many times, and you can only "accidently" shoot the first lady so many more. But then again, has there ever been a fun edutainment game? I suspect the game will be used in future shows on the history channel, however. It is a good way to graphically show what happened.

Still, making it into a game? Making it into entertainment? I think it's in very bad taste and utterly sick. It's also disrespectful and insensitive.

Mind you, many video games are sick. So this wouldn't be the first. But I suspect it is the first game in which you actually get to accurately re-enact a RL murder - which in my opinion is what makes it all the more despicable. Like I said, imagine if they were to take other controversial murders and make entertainment out of them... I think the only reason people don't mind this is because they some how see it as 'different'. But it most certainly is not.
Presgreif
22-11-2004, 07:32
Meeh. Give me Halo instead.
G Dubyah
22-11-2004, 07:36
Just to let you all know, you can download the game for free at www.jfkreloaded.com. The $9.99 comes in if you want to be able to shoot and win $100,000 dollars from the contest....

But you cannot shoot.

This game sucks.
Neo-Soviet Russia
22-11-2004, 07:42
Truthfully I find this, mixed with Santa Barbara's incredibly saracastic post damned humerous. Well..not humerous but entertaining.

Frankly, how i see it, this game's more of one of those quirks that'll arise for a few days before dropping away into nothing this. That quirk, and the thought that someone's actually willing to make a game like this makes it entertaining. The thought of all the hell that'll arise because of people who'll manage to get their panties in a bunch'll entertain me.

We'll put it like this: It's a game. It's a game attempting to be historically accurate. That is all. Sure, it's about an important person of history, but it's a game.

My only problem is the idea that they're wishing to sale this. For some reason that irks me. It irks me due to what it relates to as well as the gameplay, the only having 3 shots and 1 level.

*shrugs*
Tuesday Heights
22-11-2004, 07:48
Isn't there some sort of government law that would prohibit such a game from being released?
New York and Jersey
22-11-2004, 08:17
Isn't there some sort of government law that would prohibit such a game from being released?

Not exactly. Your not learning to kill a President. It is in bad taste but this kind of situation is no longer likely. The open topped motorcade ended with the Kennedy assassination. This is a rather unfortunate game which does disrespect to the entire Kennedy family..

As for the Kennedy family, they had been in the US for quiet sometime..so whether they're from Ireland or not is irrelavent.
Tuesday Heights
22-11-2004, 08:21
Your not learning to kill a President. It is in bad taste but this kind of situation is no longer likely. The open topped motorcade ended with the Kennedy assassination. This is a rather unfortunate game which does disrespect to the entire Kennedy family.

Obviously, you're not learning how to kill a President, but you're still "killing a President."