Bush's "big win"
I've seen some things that make out that Bush's win was much bigger than it really is. But, then I drew a graph. Its only a very poor quality Excel graph, but there it is. I think it illustrates much better how evenly split the country is than the maps showing electoral votes by state or by county.
http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/M70620D92QUZ/picserver.jpeg
An even better one would be this, showing the number represented by neither political party:
http://picserver.student.utwente.nl/view_image.php/923H94S1OY5Z/picserver.jpeg
Lacadaemon
21-11-2004, 03:43
Oooh oooh,
Do one for Clinton now. So we can see his "big win."
Vittos Ordination
21-11-2004, 03:43
That is a great depiction. (poor quality be damned)
Those county by county red/blue maps were getting almost as annoying as those stupid State IQ by vote charts.
Siljhouettes
21-11-2004, 03:47
Oooh oooh,
Do one for Clinton now. So we can see his "big win."
Actually, Clinton never won an absolute majority. In 1992 he got just 43% of the popular vote. Even in 1996 he only got 49.6% of it.
Oooh oooh,
Do one for Clinton now. So we can see his "big win."
I can't be arsed, but feel free to do one yourself. Its pretty old news by now though don't you think?
International Terrans
21-11-2004, 03:48
Interesting, very interesting.
To me, though, that merely shows hopelessness, indecision and apathy in the modern American political process, by the fact that so many people did not/cannot vote.
Oh, I did want to add it the number of those who were registered but didn't vote. I couldn't find numbers for them though. Basicly, it would be a chunk taken out of the yellow that was just a bit smaller than the Bush+Kerry section.
Andaluciae
21-11-2004, 03:50
I think I've heard enough about these charts.
Interesting, very interesting.
To me, though, that merely shows hopelessness, indecision and apathy in the modern American political process, by the fact that so many people did not/cannot vote.
The second one yes. Also that only about 1/6 of the country actually voted for Bush there.
What percentage of those 179,393,041 are ineligible to vote?
Legit Business
21-11-2004, 03:52
But to be true the popular vote is not what elects the president and even if it was the popular vote a wins a win.
I think I've heard enough about these charts.
Well, don't read the thread then maybe?
What percentage of those 179,393,041 are ineligible to vote?
I couldn't find that stat actually. I think its about 40% of the Bush+Kerry bloc (about 60% of registered turnout, right?) and that 40% would be taken out of the yellow.
EDIT: Ignore this, this is wrong.
According to the U.S. Census Bureau in 2002, 74.7% of the U.S. population was 18 or older. That's the best I can find.
Markreich
21-11-2004, 04:02
Normal election map:
http://www.time.com/time/election2004/electionmap/
Click on the link on the cyan bar. I think the best one is on the third page, which shows the comparitive level in which each candidate won his states.
As you can see, while it was close, it was a very territorial election on both sides.
I couldn't find that stat actually. I think its about 40% of the Bush+Kerry bloc (about 60% of registered turnout, right?) and that 40% would be taken out of the yellow.
Ignore this, I'm being hugely stupid.
Keruvalia
21-11-2004, 04:09
Click on the link in my sig. All the numbers you need should be there. :)
Falklenburg
21-11-2004, 04:11
Oh, I did want to add it the number of those who were registered but didn't vote. I couldn't find numbers for them though. Basicly, it would be a chunk taken out of the yellow that was just a bit smaller than the Bush+Kerry section.
The second one yes. Also that only about 1/6 of the country actually voted for Bush there.
Spoffin, your math is not quite working out. there are approx. 295 million people in the US. Approx 70 million under the age of 18 so are unable to vote. there are another 20 or so million that can not vote due to felony convictions, being legally incompetent/insane, or are legal aliens not (yet) citizens.
That brings us down to about 200 million that have the right to vote. I believe (dont have the numbers) that about 75-80% are registered (160-160 million). So sixty person or so of those that could vote did, and more than 75% of registared voters voted. Not a bad turnout :cool:
Spoffin, your math is not quite working out. there are approx. 295 million people in the US. Approx 70 million under the age of 18 so are unable to vote. there are another 20 or so million that can not vote due to felony convictions, being legally incompetent/insane, or are legal aliens not (yet) citizens.
That brings us down to about 200 million that have the right to vote. I believe (dont have the numbers) that about 75-80% are registered (160-160 million). So sixty person or so of those that could vote did, and more than 75% of registared voters voted. Not a bad turnout :cool:
Yeah, I did actually say there that I looked for a breakdown of those who could vote/ were registered to vote, but I couldn't find the number.
Keruvalia
21-11-2004, 04:20
The voting age population of the United States is 217,800,000.
115,809,878 people voted.
http://news.yahoo.com/electionresults
Bush is up to 60,645,844
Kerry is at 57,313,461
Bush's 3.51 million vote lead on election day is down to 3.33 million.
His electoral victory is 286-252.
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Do one for Clinton now. So we can see his "big win."
1996
Clinton 47,402,357
Dole 39,198,755
An 8.2 million vote win.
His electoral victory was 379-159.
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1992
Clinton 44,908,254
Bush Sr. 39,102,343
A 5.8 million vote win.
His electoral victory was 370-168.
Halloccia
21-11-2004, 05:59
The second one yes. Also that only about 1/6 of the country actually voted for Bush there.
You're right that only 1/6 os the country voted for Bush..... but less than that voted for Kerry ;)