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I presented it today.


I’ve been told I’m not sympathetic to “psychological disorders.” Maybe a parable can explain what sort of person I am. And what sort of people deserve my sympathy. As I’ve said “mercy to those who deserve it.”
I had a good friend who now lives in Louisiana, we still keep in touch. At this time his mother was unemployed and they still had to pay for his brother’s medical expenses, which amounted to quite a lot. One day he called me, and my heart turned upside down, when he told me he hadn’t eaten for two days. So my father and I drove down and delivered a box of spaghetti and some sauce. Another time, I saw a few kids poking fun at a mentally handicapped boy. I screamed every profanity I could think of. And I’m proud of the action I took, I believe it was the right thing to do.
I find it insulting that Goths, and “depressed people” make their lives into being a horrible painful experience. Try being poor, or having a handicap, and maybe your life won’t seem so miserable. Like I’ve always said “You don’t see any poor Goths.” Why are they so unhappy with their predicament? Most of the time they use their non-existent problems to manipulate others.
It’s always strange that people make all sorts of “attempted suicides” or the plead to the court to pardon their crime because “they’re insane.” Firstly, what kind of idiot can’t slit their own wrist? Maybe they aren’t trying to kill themselves, possibly their arrogant human beings who want to feel “valuable.” In reality anyone who pulls a stunt like that is as useless as a pile of horse manure on your front porch. They also seem to have a pathological need for attention, but aren’t talented enough to receive it. If you don’t aknowledge a “cry for attention” in the first place eventually whoever you’re ignoring will quiet down.
They’re plenty of people I know who’ve come from horrible situations and are productive citizens. One of them has the best sense of humor I’ve seen in ages. But the Goths who live in beautiful houses driving around in pristine mini vans have it so bad. Bu hu-bu-hu. Your life is what you make of it, for the most part people create their own stress. Firstly they wouldn’t have stress if they did something that was somewhat productive. And they need to stop disrupting everyone’s lives, just because they might kill themselves. They’re few people who go to that extreme, anyone that outright says “I’m going to kill myself” is not planning to do so. If he really wanted to die, he would have done it quickly and without hesitation.
I don't get it. It's like those people who go around with those t-shirts and stickers that say "you laugh at me because I'm different, but I laugh at you because you're all the same." How different are you if you're wearing a mass-produced t-shirt with a registered trade mark sold through one of the largest clothing franchises in the world? You're the reason Old Navy keeps making stupid commercials, and you're the reason McDonalds gets away with selling so much unhealthy, greasy food every day. If you obsess about uniqueness, and try to be “unique” you’re not. In reality Goths are just conforming to there own sick ways, they aren’t really the “individuals” they make out to be.
Goths are incredibly annoying, but their sympathizers will drive you insane. People say to me all the time “You should feel sorry for them.” Why? Most of them live in middle to upper middle class families with both parents. And both their parents have real nice marriage. They’re spoiled, and that’s why they become “Goths.” One particular sub culture called vampires are incredibly disturbing. They drink each others blood, and fantasize about going to Hell. For a group of people so obsessed with dying their sure are a lot of them. It would seem like if they practiced what they preached they’d all have killed themselves by now. Or is it, they’re just a bunch of frightened little children, who need to find real lives, and a job. If Goths want to go to Hell so badly, the government should allow them, maybe even assist them.
Once someone came up to me and said “You’re a jerk, your against people dying their hair.” I said “What?” She said “yeah so and so told me you hate people who dye their hair.” No, your friends an idiot, who needs to listen to exactly what I say before he opens up his mouth. It’s painful to listen to the conversations around the school. The content of the conversation is always “He said, she said, he likes, you like, she likes.” With Goths it’s “I’m depressed do you guys want to get drunk and make out with dead animals?” I will discuss the Idiot Wind in later weeks.
Before you tell me I’m heartless and cruel think about the people your telling me to be sympathetic towards. Cowards, hypocrites, and attention grabbing losers that should have been slapped up-side the head when they were younger.

Yeah, that sucked.

Yeah, that sucked.

My audience didn't think so. Plus it's better than the shit you produce.

My audience didn't think so. Plus it's better than the shit you produce.

What "shit" do I produce? And who was your audience?

What "shit" do I produce? And who was your audience?

Your threads.

Bunch of students.

But I did get more of a response with my anti-bush rhetoric, so I suppose I'll stick with that.

Well, not all Goths are self-hating depress-whores. But the ones that are need to grow up and see the pain experienced in third-world countries. Maybe then they'll realize what true pain is.

Your threads.

Bunch of students.

But I did get more of a response with my anti-bush rhetoric, so I suppose I'll stick with that.

What threads have I made? Specifically which ones are "shit" and for what reason. And what age were the students? Were they college students, or, more likely, other 6th graders like yourself?

you should try to get all your essays into the letters sections of your local and school newspapers Alansysims.

Yeah, that sucked.

Yup that would be my vote.

What threads have I made? Specifically which ones are "shit" and for what reason. And what age were the students? Were they college students, or, more likely, other 6th graders like yourself?

7thh graders.

And your articles have no feeling in them. They're boring and painfully neautral.

you should try to get all your essays into the letters sections of your local and school newspapers Alansysims.

I plan on publishing a book.

7thh graders.

And your articles have no feeling in them. They're boring and painfully neautral.

I've made two threads in the past month. One had to do with football, and the other, "Exposing the hypocrisy of Christianity" you personally endorsed as being good. So you liked my boring and painfully neutral thread.

Whatever Alansyism

You seem to have a peculiar knack for ketting deleted.
BTW, you, conservative?

Whatever Alansyism

You seem to have a peculiar knack for ketting deleted.
BTW, you, conservative?

No I just already used "Liberal Alansyism"

I call myself a "Liberal Fascist"

I plan on publishing a book.
hahahahahaha don't kill the trees for that. What a waste that would be.

I've made two threads in the past month. One had to do with football, and the other, "Exposing the hypocrisy of Christianity" you personally endorsed as being good. So you liked my boring and painfully neutral thread.

God damn it, alright you win. I forgot about doing that.....

At least I know when I'm wrong.

I didn't read the thread, I just think relegion IN GENERAL is hypocritical.

What did you pull this time?

What did you pull this time?

I bashed Goths.

Well, then why did you do it again IN THIS THREAD? dont go, your biased liberal arguments bring me copious laughter

Yeah, here's a third vote for "That sucked," though I have no surprise that 7th graders gave their seal of approval on that.

I thought about smacking this down like the red-headed step child of posts that it is. I thought, "Do I start with the ridiculous generalizations? The pitiful psychological analyses? The obvious ignorance of the very subject subculture?" Then I decided not to start at all. There's no intellectual merit here, just middle-school cattiness and marginalizing thought.

I presented it today.


I’ve been told I’m not sympathetic to “psychological disorders.” Maybe a parable can explain what sort of person I am. And what sort of people deserve my sympathy. As I’ve said “mercy to those who deserve it.”...

<snip>

...Before you tell me I’m heartless and cruel think about the people your telling me to be sympathetic towards. Cowards, hypocrites, and attention grabbing losers that should have been slapped up-side the head when they were younger.


I think that was best explanation of goths I have ever heard. (or read)

Idiots. Everyone.

Try edging away from stereotypes. www.spacefem.com Would be a great place to start you re-education regarding labeling people and generalizations.

Don't be an idiot. Grow a forebrain.

And one more thing- Term is "Visogoth." They came from Gaul and sacked Rome.

I agree with your view but your paper had no style and no supportive details just your opinion. Although your view on suicide is correct. So is your view on the hypocrisy of their so called uniqueness although I too saw that episode of South Park.

I think that was best explanation of goths I have ever heard. (or read)
wow you need to get out.

Yeah, here's a third vote for "That sucked," though I have no surprise that 7th graders gave their seal of approval on that.

I thought about smacking this down like the red-headed step child of posts that it is. I thought, "Do I start with the ridiculous generalizations? The pitiful psychological analyses? The obvious ignorance of the very subject subculture?" Then I decided not to start at all. There's no intellectual merit here, just middle-school cattiness and marginalizing thought.

Well we have three for "it was good." Ahhhh, does the little Goth want us to feel bad for him :( boo-hoo.

They recieved it with open arms, becuase I have a reputation for being right. And everyone knows they're little bitches.

wow you need to get out.

Ahh another Goth that wants us to feel sorry for him. :-( boo-hoo-boo-hoo.

Here goes nothing :s

1)Disadvantaged people do not have a monopoly on mental disorders
2)Not everyone who dresses in black and listens to rock is some kind of self-obsessed goths. Most of my friends fall into the first category. I can think of... um... one person I know who vaguely fits into the second.
3)I think you'll find that with modern medical knowledge it isn't exactly difficult to "save" (debatable use of words, but not what I'm here to counter-rant about) someone who's slit their wrists, plus presumably many paniced and went for help, it's called instinct
4)Yeah, you're right, those "vampire" types are odd. But "real" (as in "fictional") vampires are totally badass, watch Hellsing and you'll know what I mean. Oh yeah, go Alucard!
5)I forgot what I was going to say next... Damn... Oh yeah, here it is, you said "With Goths it’s “I’m depressed do you guys want to get drunk and make out with dead animals?”" I dunno about you, but I've never heard ANYONE say that. What type of weirdos did they throw you in with, you poor guy...
6)About the whole middle class thing, it's probably that because of the fact they are relatively privelaged they feel unchallenged, and this leads to them feeling useless.

In conclusion, you have your opinions if you want, I'll keep mine, and as long as it doesn't lead to violence, I'm happy :)

Well we have three for "it was good." Ahhhh, does the little Goth want us to feel bad for him :( boo-hoo.

They recieved it with open arms, becuase I have a reputation for being right. And everyone knows they're little bitches.

They recieved it with open arms because they're a bunch of fucking children and don't know the difference between baseless and factless vitrol and a well thought out, coherent argument.

It's like those people who go around with those t-shirts and stickers that say "you laugh at me because I'm different, but I laugh at you because you're all the same." How different are you if you're wearing a mass-produced t-shirt with a registered trade mark sold through one of the largest clothing franchises in the world? You're the reason Old Navy keeps making stupid commercials, and you're the reason McDonalds gets away with selling so much unhealthy, greasy food every day.
I don't get it. It's like those people who go around with those t-shirts and stickers that say "you laugh at me because I'm different, but I laugh at you because you're all the same." How different are you if you're wearing a mass-produced t-shirt with a registered trade mark sold through one of the largest clothing franchises in the world? You're the reason Old Navy keeps making stupid commercials, and you're the reason McDonalds gets away with selling so much shitty food every day.http://maddox.xmission.com/personality.cgi

My negative respect you for just dropped further. Plagiarism is for the morally bankrupt and intellectually stagnant.

http://maddox.xmission.com/personality.cgi

My negative respect you for just dropped further. Plagiarism is for the morally bankrupt and intellectually stagnant.

Wow. Didn't even pick up on that.

They recieved it with open arms because they're a bunch of fucking children and don't know the difference between baseless and factless vitrol and a well thought out, coherent argument.

Fuck you asshole todays youth is some of the best informed in generations but your obviously an expert on "fucking children" ped

Wow. Didn't even pick up on that.
I was reading his essay and realized I agreed with parts of it, so I knew something must be terribly, terribly wrong.

Ahh another Goth that wants us to feel sorry for him. :-( boo-hoo-boo-hoo.

ahahahahaha wow every post you make, makes you sound that much dumber. Lets see am i a goth. Well played sports, enjoyed high school, I'm at one of the top schools in the nation, i have an amazing family, a girlfriend that i really love, and i'm right on track to obtain my life's goal. So ya i don't think i'm a goth, oh and i don't like black that much. Its ok your lack of knowledge makes you ignorant, your arrogence makes stupid.

Well we have three for "it was good." Ahhhh, does the little Goth want us to feel bad for him :( boo-hoo.

They recieved it with open arms, becuase I have a reputation for being right. And everyone knows they're little bitches.

No, I'm not a goth, but I do despise ignorant people who stereotype others (i.e. see your response to me - so much for your "reputation for being right," if Sdaeriji didn't kill it already). Of course, that's standard for middle school, which is a haven for immature thought and cutthroat prejudice to those who don't conform. Your stereotype is of one kind of goth, specifically that embodied by the kind of person who is irriatating no matter what subculture they haunt. I know plenty of goths (not that they ever use the term) who are and do none of the things you describe. See http://www.odk.com/wilson/goth/manifesto.html, for example.

Labels are for the ignorant, and generalizations for lazy minds.

They recieved it with open arms because they're a bunch of fucking children and don't know the difference between baseless and factless vitrol and a well thought out, coherent argument.

You're assuming these are real speeches he's giving in a real classroom. I can picture an anti-social little loner w/ few friends and a very active imagination. IMO all these grandiose speeches and "standing ovations" are only in his mind.

Labels are for the ignorant, and generalizations for lazy minds.
Actually, plagiarizing "your" essay from Maddox is for an ignorant, lazy mind.

Fuck you asshole todays youth is some of the best informed in generations but your obviously an expert on "fucking children" ped

"Best informed" or not, there was nothing about that opening post that even resembled an intelligent argument, and as Arammanar pointed out, a good deal of it was plagarized. They can be as informed as they want, but that does not mean they are able to elucidate it in a meaningful way. The original post is full of opinion and generalizations, without a single concrete fact to back it up. It has no merit.

And I appreciate you twisting my words in such a infantile manner. Kudos to you.

I think your quick run through there flew right by it. There are certianly many attention grabbing hypocrites who deck themselves out in black and fake angst over their latest broken nail because they believe that they now give off a cool and individualistic image. Ask them about the crux of their existential crisis and there are no rants against Heidegger or Nietzsche but rather some lame pathetic excuse about how once when they were 5 they got spanked and this apparently lead to black clothing and multiple piercings somehow but then speak to the child who was raped by her brother and nobody believed her. Her inner angst allowed her to identify with the gothic set, some of who have genuine problems and the likewise inability to fully express their pain. They're not suicidal necessarily but they are living in pain. Don't dismiss an entire group because of a few teenage kids going through a "phase."

ahahahahaha wow every post you make, makes you sound that much dumber. Lets see am i a goth. Well played sports, enjoyed high school, I'm at one of the top schools in the nation, i have an amazing family, a girlfriend that i really love, and i'm right on track to obtain my life's goal. So ya i don't think i'm a goth, oh and i don't like black that much. Its ok your lack of knowledge makes you ignorant, your arrogence makes stupid.

I rarely correct someones grammar and spelling. But that was possibly the most pathetic piece of narcissim, and bad grammar I've ever seen. My "arrogence" makes me studpid? Please explain your complex theroy on the relation of "arrogence" and stupidity.

I rarely correct someones grammar and spelling. But that was possibly the most pathetic piece of narcissim, and bad grammar I've ever seen. My "arrogence" makes me studpid? Please explain your complex theroy on the relation of "arrogence" and stupidity.
Please explain your "theroy" on why it's okay to steal other people's work.

bravo...couldnt have said it better myself

the whole essay is brilliance

You're assuming these are real speeches he's giving in a real classroom. I can picture an anti-social little loner w/ few friends and a very active imagination. IMO all these grandiose speeches and "standing ovations" are only in his mind.

I suppose it does rely on the assumption that he's not a lying little punk.

http://maddox.xmission.com/personality.cgi

My negative respect you for just dropped further. Plagiarism is for the morally bankrupt and intellectually stagnant.

Yes, I took it from Maddox. I always thought it wasa brillant qoute.

Yes, I took it from Maddox. I always thought it wasa brillant qoute.
Then why didn't you say it? You generally cite someone's work when you lift large sections of it.

4)Yeah, you're right, those "vampire" types are odd. But "real" (as in "fictional") vampires are totally badass, watch Hellsing and you'll know what I mean. Oh yeah, go Alucard!

Yeah, Alucard rocks, and Hellsing is awesome. How could you not have this little, nagging, wholly unrealistic desire to be a vampire after watching that? But then, everyone on that show is a complete badass.

I remember someone on these forums a few months ago fielding questions about the Vampire subculture, being a part of it. He made some good points, and it made a bit of sense. I wish I could remember who/where that was...

Yes, I took it from Maddox. I always thought it wasa brillant qoute.

Did you credit him in your "speech"?

And I bet you just happen to forget to give Maddox the credit for it, eh? Although I don't think it would be too hard to figure out that someone of your intelligence cannot be creative enough to think of that.

I suppose it does rely on the assumption that he's not a lying little punk.

I plan on video taping one of my speeches and posting it on the net. To prove to you assholes I'm not lying. But first I need to find a camer man.... I've got one guy that'll do it. Yeh!

"Best informed" or not, there was nothing about that opening post that even resembled an intelligent argument, and as Arammanar pointed out, a good deal of it was plagarized. They can be as informed as they want, but that does not mean they are able to elucidate it in a meaningful way. The original post is full of opinion and generalizations, without a single concrete fact to back it up. It has no merit.

And I appreciate you twisting my words in such a infantile manner. Kudos to you.

But your post was full of the things that the first wass lacking????
Your just as bad if not worse because and I assume from your tone that your an adult who needs to feel good about themself, you come off as being a small individual.

No I just already used "Liberal Alansyism"

I call myself a "Liberal Fascist"

You think alot like me only you can write (My worst subject (along with spelling)) except that thing about relegion (I am christian (some religions seem hipocritical))

All Goths need to die

http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Stage/9766/oohwee.jpg

Fuck you asshole todays youth is some of the best informed in generations but your obviously an expert on "fucking children" ped

Oh yeah, that was a mature response that supported your point.
:rolleyes:

There are quite a few very intelligent children, some who even post here. I think with the post above, you disqualified yourself from that category.

I rarely correct someones grammar and spelling. But that was possibly the most pathetic piece of narcissim, and bad grammar I've ever seen. My "arrogence" makes me studpid? Please explain your complex theroy on the relation of "arrogence" and stupidity.

ah that great. Good work. You've figured out what all my english teachers since second grade have been telling me. Well done you should be proud. As for the relationship between arrogence and stupidity. Through you arrogence you think your ingnorance is right and refuse to see accept other possabilities, which makes you wrong with the knowledge at hand and therefore stupid.

You think alot like me only you can write (My worst subject (along with spelling)) except that thing about relegion (I am christian (some religions seem hipocritical))
Hah! This? Writing?

You think alot like me only you can write (My worst subject (along with spelling)) except that thing about relegion (I am christian (some religions seem hipocritical))

I'm a christian too, it's just I don't believe in organized relegion.

Actually, plagiarizing "your" essay from Maddox is for an ignorant, lazy mind.

Well, that certainly does take it one step further.

I plan on publishing a book.
your style of writing is compelling and riveting. Its suckes the reader right in

Well, that certainly does take it one step further.

When did three sentences become the entire essay?

Oh yeah, that was a mature response that supported your point.
:rolleyes:

There are quite a few very intelligent children, some who even post here. I think with the post above, you disqualified yourself from that category.

Being intelligent dosent mean that you can't have a dig at someone and yell nasty words enough adults do it.

But your post was full of the things that the first wass lacking????
Your just as bad if not worse because and I assume from your tone that your an adult who needs to feel good about themself, you come off as being a small individual.

No. It is no generalization that the kind of person who applauds such profound statements such as

In reality anyone who pulls a stunt like that is as useless as a pile of horse manure on your front porch.

If Goths want to go to Hell so badly, the government should allow them, maybe even assist them.

Cowards, hypocrites, and attention grabbing losers that should have been slapped up-side the head when they were younger.

are children, no matter what their age.

I think your quick run through there flew right by it. There are certianly many attention grabbing hypocrites who deck themselves out in black and fake angst over their latest broken nail because they believe that they now give off a cool and individualistic image. Ask them about the crux of their existential crisis and there are no rants against Heidegger or Nietzsche but rather some lame pathetic excuse about how once when they were 5 they got spanked and this apparently lead to black clothing and multiple piercings somehow but then speak to the child who was raped by her brother and nobody believed her. Her inner angst allowed her to identify with the gothic set, some of who have genuine problems and the likewise inability to fully express their pain. They're not suicidal necessarily but they are living in pain. Don't dismiss an entire group because of a few teenage kids going through a "phase."

Indeed, this was the argument I wanted to make, but didn't want to bother taking the time to put together for something like this. Well said.

your style of writing is compelling and riveting. Its suckes
I fixed your typo.

your style of writing is compelling and riveting. Its suckes the reader right in

Too bad most of it's not his.

your style of writing is compelling and riveting. Its suckes the reader right in

I also plan on writting a novel, and finishing my OS.

You know, CA, a one-week forumban means NOT POSTING WITH OTHER PUPPETS.

You know, CA, a one-week forumban means NOT POSTING WITH OTHER PUPPETS.
Why oh why do you let him come back at all? He's easily been banned three times, if not more, never contributes anything to any discussion, and just creates idiocy and plagarism wherever he goes. Keep trash like him off these forums.

I believe you are not only confusing several vastly unrelated groups of people, but also mistaking Maddox for anything other than humour. When you're argument is taking verbatim from a joke, it tends to damage your arguments credibility.

Maddox's arguements are (probably intentionally) crap, biased and completely hypocritical. That makes Maddox really, really funny. It is, infact, a good thing.

In your case, it simply destroys your argument.

Why oh why do you let him come back at all? He's easily been banned three times, if not more, never contributes anything to any discussion, and just creates idiocy and plagarism wherever he goes. Keep trash like him off these forums.


6 times to be exact.

When did three sentences become the entire essay?

Lifting even one sentence can get you an F for the class in most college courses, especially if it's a major point in your writing. The adult world doesn't take too kindly too it, either, because then it actually means something. In short, when you swipe someone else's intellectual property, people rightly think less of you.

No. It is no generalization that the kind of person who applauds such profound statements such as







are children, no matter what their age.

Ok some of these words are what can only be described as out of it, but your way of rebuttal painted the youth of today as mindless, brainless sheep which is just not true.

I believe you are not only confusing several vastly unrelated groups of people, but also mistaking Maddox for anything other than humour. When you're argument is taking verbatim from a joke, it tends to damage your arguments credibility.

Maddox's arguements are (probably intentionally) crap, biased and completely hypocritical. That makes Maddox really, really funny. It is, infact, a good thing.

In your case, it simply destroys your argument.

I'll replace Maddox's qoute with something else. It was a speech IE not an essay. But to be incorporated into my book it must be purged of such impurities.

ahahahahaha wow every post you make, makes you sound that much dumber. Lets see am i a goth. Well played sports, enjoyed high school, I'm at one of the top schools in the nation, i have an amazing family, a girlfriend that i really love, and i'm right on track to obtain my life's goal. So ya i don't think i'm a goth, oh and i don't like black that much. Its ok your lack of knowledge makes you ignorant, your arrogence makes stupid.

Thing is, perhaps except for the not liking black terribly much, i don't see how any of that would suggest you were, or weren't a Goth.

Lifting even one sentence can get you an F for the class in most college courses, especially if it's a major point in your writing. The adult world doesn't take too kindly too it, either, because then it actually means something. In short, when you swipe someone else's intellectual property, people rightly think less of you.


IT WAS A SPEECH, NOT AN ESSAY. I HAVEN'T TURNED IT IN TO THE TEACHER.

Ok some of these words are what can only be described as out of it, but your way of rebuttal painted the youth of today as mindless, brainless sheep which is just not true.

I in no way painted the youth of today as mindless, brainless sheep. I said the audience that applauded him were of inferior intellect. I'm sorry if you're offended that I drew the comparisson between child and not smart. He could have given that speech to a group of college professors, and if they applauded him, I would similarly call them children.

And lets be honest here, there are intellectual property laws all over the place, put one foot out of line and whoever you stole from can drop on you from heaven like a ton of bricks :s Wow, a sentence full of joyful metaphors and imagery...

To summarise... actually forget it, summarise for yourself, slackers... ;)

I find it insulting that Goths, and “depressed people” make their lives into being a horrible painful experience. Try being poor, or having a handicap, and maybe your life won’t seem so miserable. Like I’ve always said “You don’t see any poor Goths.” Why are they so unhappy with their predicament? Most of the time they use their non-existent problems to manipulate others.
way to judge people you dont' know.

1. there are poor goths. i've met many in my life.
2. just because someone's not poor or physically disabled doesn't mean they don't have it tough. what about people who are abused by their parents? the kids who are picked on all through elementary school? who are ostracized from their peers... et c. a rough childhood can make people insecure in their relationships with other people, self loathing, depressed et c. just because they're not broke or in a wheelchair doesn't mean they don't have their own problems to deal with.
3. i somehow doubt that people like you who go around judging them helps them any either.

It’s always strange that people make all sorts of “attempted suicides” or the plead to the court to pardon their crime because “they’re insane.” Firstly, what kind of idiot can’t slit their own wrist? Maybe they aren’t trying to kill themselves, possibly their arrogant human beings who want to feel “valuable.” In reality anyone who pulls a stunt like that is as useless as a pile of horse manure on your front porch. They also seem to have a pathological need for attention, but aren’t talented enough to receive it. If you don’t aknowledge a “cry for attention” in the first place eventually whoever you’re ignoring will quiet down.
again, you don't know what the fuck you're talkign about. how dare you sit here and say that you know everything about the people who attempt suicide.

furthermore, it's not a "cry for attention" it's more often a cry for help. as in someone knows that they need help, they're depressed enough to want to do that to themselves, but they know that deep down, they don't want to. attempting suicide alerts other people to their problems in a way they can't ignore. it makes if obvious that a person does indeed need help dealing with their problems, they can't do it on their own.

They’re plenty of people I know who’ve come from horrible situations and are productive citizens. One of them has the best sense of humor I’ve seen in ages. But the Goths who live in beautiful houses driving around in pristine mini vans have it so bad. Bu hu-bu-hu.
yeah, i know a kid in a wheelchair who proudly calls himself wheels, he's quite comfortable in his disability, and hell, he analyses people he can sue for not having ramps and generally takes advantage of people who feel sorry for him (yeah, he's a bit of a prick about it)

and again, there are many more goths who don't have pristine mini vans, who live in run down houses, whose parents probably aren't around or don't care. you don't know every single person, you're just making a broad generalizing stereotype.

i somehow get the feeling that you're the kind of kid who ostracized them in the first place.

Your life is what you make of it, for the most part people create their own stress.
so the people with chemical imbalances in their brains making them depressed create their own stress?

Firstly they wouldn’t have stress if they did something that was somewhat productive.
you're talking about highschool kids. what kind of highschool kid is in any way productive at any rate. highschool is such a fucking joke.

And they need to stop disrupting everyone’s lives, just because they might kill themselves. They’re few people who go to that extreme, anyone that outright says “I’m going to kill myself” is not planning to do so. If he really wanted to die, he would have done it quickly and without hesitation.
you're forgetting about the cry for help...
and again, not many goths go about proclaiming suicidal intentions...

I don't get it. It's like those people who go around with those t-shirts and stickers that say "you laugh at me because I'm different, but I laugh at you because you're all the same." How different are you if you're wearing a mass-produced t-shirt with a registered trade mark sold through one of the largest clothing franchises in the world? You're the reason Old Navy keeps making stupid commercials, and you're the reason McDonalds gets away with selling so much unhealthy, greasy food every day. If you obsess about uniqueness, and try to be “unique” you’re not. In reality Goths are just conforming to there own sick ways, they aren’t really the “individuals” they make out to be.
again, you're stereotyping. not every goth wears that kind of stuff. i know some girls who wear assorted vampire-esque clothes, really quite cute if you ask me. i couldn't pull it off, but hey.

and again... i somehow get the feeling that the hottopic goths will grow out of it. just like you'll grow out of wearing your own mass produced crap from the gap and old navy. stop acting like you're better than they are.

Goths are incredibly annoying, but their sympathizers will drive you insane.
you get hassled by goths?

or does looking at them annoy you to such an extent?

People say to me all the time “You should feel sorry for them.” Why? Most of them live in middle to upper middle class families with both parents. And both their parents have real nice marriage. They’re spoiled, and that’s why they become “Goths.”
not necessarily. nice of you to continue your stereotype though.

One particular sub culture called vampires are incredibly disturbing. They drink each others blood, and fantasize about going to Hell. For a group of people so obsessed with dying their sure are a lot of them. It would seem like if they practiced what they preached they’d all have killed themselves by now. Or is it, they’re just a bunch of frightened little children, who need to find real lives, and a job. If Goths want to go to Hell so badly, the government should allow them, maybe even assist them.
umm... angry much?

what happened? they wouldn't let you in their club?

seriously though, for some people, bloodletting is a turn on. it's like any fetish. so unless you're going to go around makign fun of the men who like being dominated and are obsessed with feet or the women who have fetishes for chest hair, leave them the fuck alone.

and yes, teenagers are sexual beings, they can have fetishes.

Once someone came up to me and said “You’re a jerk, your against people dying their hair.” I said “What?” She said “yeah so and so told me you hate people who dye their hair.” No, your friends an idiot, who needs to listen to exactly what I say before he opens up his mouth. It’s painful to listen to the conversations around the school. The content of the conversation is always “He said, she said, he likes, you like, she likes.” With Goths it’s “I’m depressed do you guys want to get drunk and make out with dead animals?” I will discuss the Idiot Wind in later weeks.
Before you tell me I’m heartless and cruel think about the people your telling me to be sympathetic towards. Cowards, hypocrites, and attention grabbing losers that should have been slapped up-side the head when they were younger.

did you really write this speech?

it's quite piss poor.

aside from the obvious lack of research and understanding of the topic, not to mention the obvious bias, your structure is horrible.

Too bad most of it's not his.
the concept of plagiarism is grossly overrated and just a form of academic snobbery--all ideas are borrowed from somewhere else--theres no sucht thing as an original thought so how can anyone not be plagiarizing something else every single time they write anything at all?

I'll replace Maddox's qoute with something else. It was a speech IE not an essay. But to be incorporated into my book it must be purged of such impurities.

Will you similarly purge it of such impurities as atrocious grammar and horrific spelling?

Being intelligent dosent mean that you can't have a dig at someone and yell nasty words enough adults do it.

I intelligently "dig" at people all the time. I do it often here - and I've never needed to yell "nasty words" to do it. And, incidentally, just because "enough adults" do it does not make it intelligent. Plenty of adults are idiots, too. If you need to use profanity and baseless claims to insult someone, then no, I wouldn't call you intelligent.

Ya know... not all goths are, in fact, depressed and mopy... though its often why they BECOME goths; thing is, the whole social group thing tends to be rather soothing, up until jackasses start harrassing them. Most of its just good ol' fashioned fun, including the fun of screwing with the heads of people who don't understand them. It's about the same kick I get out of wearing my leather trench coat and pretending to be burned when in proximity of a cross, or when people refer to me as "the creepy guy" (my makeout partner calls me this, even), and I've been called a stalker (mind you, just because I share several classes with the people in my major, or from happening to walk past them on campus) about six times this semester. Funny as hell.

Frankly, I've associated with plenty of them on the net, and they're mostly just extremely bored.

I have one in my American lit class at the moment, and, while she's certainly a bit eccentric (more to do with her interests in drama than anything else), she smiles more often than I do, and is a rather sweet and amusing gal.

But, if the goths make you feel bad, and you feel the need to diss them... I'm sure they won't mind helping you deal with whatever little depression causes you to need to lash out at them. They might lend you some of the makeup, even.

I believe you are not only confusing several vastly unrelated groups of people, but also mistaking Maddox for anything other than humour. When you're argument is taking verbatim from a joke, it tends to damage your arguments credibility.

Maddox's arguements are (probably intentionally) crap, biased and completely hypocritical. That makes Maddox really, really funny. It is, infact, a good thing.

In your case, it simply destroys your argument.

I don't believe he has an argument. What he has is a short oratorical of the kind we all produce as kids when we were too lazy to do real research. A true argument is based off of well researched facts from which an author an extrapolate fallacies or use to support his opinions.

I in no way painted the youth of today as mindless, brainless sheep. I said the audience that applauded him were of inferior intellect. I'm sorry if you're offended that I drew the comparisson between child and not smart. He could have given that speech to a group of college professors, and if they applauded him, I would similarly call them children.

I dont agree with the speech but just because the audience liked it and you dont you seem to be packing a sad insted of trying to understandwhere they/he was comming from.

Why oh why do you let him come back at all? He's easily been banned three times, if not more, never contributes anything to any discussion, and just creates idiocy and plagarism wherever he goes. Keep trash like him off these forums.

Who was he before?

the concept of plagiarism is grossly overrated and just a form of academic snobbery--all ideas are borrowed from somewhere else--theres no sucht thing as an original thought so how can anyone not be plagiarizing something else every single time they write anything at all?
Ideas can be borrowed, yes. Exact phrasology is something else entirely.

7thh graders.

And your articles have no feeling in them. They're boring and painfully neautral.
you're not even in highschool?

what the fuck?

you think you can sit there and know why some people are depressed based on what life experience?

fuck man, i know that i've hardly lived and i'm 21 and in university. you're a baby in this world. fuck, that's hardly puberty! what the hell do you know? and here you are, judging everyone and making attempts at psychological assesments and you don't know shit.

and believe me, the sooner you admit that you know shit, the sooner the learning process can begin.

Why oh why do you let him come back at all? He's easily been banned three times, if not more, never contributes anything to any discussion, and just creates idiocy and plagarism wherever he goes. Keep trash like him off these forums.
why do you want to censor people you disagree with? people who advocate permanent bans are stalinists

Who was he before?

Alansyism
Neo Alansyism
New Neo Alansyism
Liberal Alansyism
Conservative Alansyism
Liberal Fascists
Mozilla-Firefox

6 times to be exact.

And you're proud of this? That is childish...and hypocritical, talk about an attention whore.

Who was he before?
Liberal Alanysists, New Alanysists, regular Alanysists, and those are only the ones I know of.

I dont agree with the speech but just because the audience liked it and you dont you seem to be packing a sad insted of trying to understandwhere they/he was comming from.

It doesn't matter where he's coming from. You can have a healthy dislike of "goths", but advocating their deaths is crossing the line, no matter what you think. And anyone who agrees with the assertion that all "goths" should be killed is an idiot.

why do you want to censor people you disagree with? people who advocate permanent bans are stalinists
Fuck you MKULTRA. Fuck you and your ideas. Fuck you. I would kill you if I fucking could. Fuck you fuck you fuck you. /sarcasm

That is the intellectual equivalent to one of Alan's post. It is nothing but flamebait, and judging by his plagarism even his posts aren't his own thoughts. He contributes nothing to these boards, except flaming and hate. He's an attention whore, and nothing else.

IT WAS A SPEECH, NOT AN ESSAY. I HAVEN'T TURNED IT IN TO THE TEACHER.

Ugh, you asked when it became true that lines stolen made the essay, so I assumed it was an essay. That's totally irrelevant, though, because you're talking about intellectual property, regardless of what form it's in. My point stands - yes, it's a big deal.

It doesn't matter where he's coming from. You can have a healthy dislike of "goths", but advocating their deaths is crossing the line, no matter what you think. And anyone who agrees with the assertion that all "goths" should be killed is an idiot.

Hitler thought Jews should die, a very evil man to be sure but stupid Im not too sure. Sure the guy may be a basket case but that dosent make him stupid

It doesn't matter where he's coming from. You can have a healthy dislike of "goths", but advocating their deaths is crossing the line, no matter what you think. And anyone who agrees with the assertion that all "goths" should be killed is an idiot.
hes just using a literary device

the concept of plagiarism is grossly overrated and just a form of academic snobbery--all ideas are borrowed from somewhere else--theres no sucht thing as an original thought so how can anyone not be plagiarizing something else every single time they write anything at all?

Not true in any respect. It's very possible to have an original take on a previously stated thesis, and write an essay on the new view of the old idea without having to rip off the original thesis. And there is a vast difference between borrowing an idea from a previous writer and lifting large portions of their essay word for word.

Hitler thought Jews should die, a very evil man to be sure but stupid Im not too sure. Sure the guy may be a basket case but that dosent make him stupid

Fine. Not stupid. But immature to be sure. Advocating the deaths of those you dislike is a very immature attitude.

hes just using a literary device

And what literary device would that be?

I intelligently "dig" at people all the time. I do it often here - and I've never needed to yell "nasty words" to do it. And, incidentally, just because "enough adults" do it does not make it intelligent. Plenty of adults are idiots, too. If you need to use profanity and baseless claims to insult someone, then no, I wouldn't call you intelligent.

What a big man you are staying out of the gutter. Were you one of those kids at school that ignored the people who gave him crap and hoped it would go away? People are naturally agressive when offended and enjoy watching people they dont like squirm

Can it even be a literary device, when it's a speech, and therefor not actually literature?

;)

Ideas can be borrowed, yes. Exact phrasology is something else entirely.

Absolutely. It is not academic snobbery. People spend years reasearching, writing, and editing their ideas before publishing them. The least you could do when you steal someone's hard work is to credit them. Its a nod of respect towards the original author and the hard work or itellectual genius that went into creating the ideas you now so blithely recite.

Fine. Not stupid. But immature to be sure. Advocating the deaths of those you dislike is a very immature attitude.

immature is like water ballons and whoopy chshions basket case or nut job is the correct term

Alansyism
Neo Alansyism
New Neo Alansyism
Liberal Alansyism
Conservative Alansyism
Liberal Fascists
Mozilla-Firefox

My, how creative...guess I never paid attention to those posters.

http://maddox.xmission.com/personality.cgi

My negative respect you for just dropped further. Plagiarism is for the morally bankrupt and intellectually stagnant.

I concur. Not only did he not credit it, he obviously made a few small changes to try and cover the fact that he stole it.

Way to ridicule people for being pathetic, while having to regurgitate someone elses opinions.

It was also not a 'quote', as proven by the fact you a) altered it and b) gave no credit for it.

What a big man you are staying out of the gutter. Were you one of those kids at school that ignored the people who gave him crap and hoped it would go away? People are naturally agressive when offended and enjoy watching people they dont like squirm

Yes, perhaps, but most of us get over those natural tendencies by the time we're adults because we realize just how little we will accomplish in the real world if we're intentionally dickheads to everyone we don't like.

I concur. Not only did he not credit it, he obviously made a few small changes to try and cover the fact that he stole it.

Way to ridicule people for being pathetic, while having to regurgitate someone elses opinions.

It was also not a 'quote', as proven by the fact you a) altered it and b) gave no credit for it.

You there. Talk to me.:)

Yes, perhaps, but most of us get over those natural tendencies by the time we're adults because we realize just how little we will accomplish in the real world if we're intentionally dickheads to everyone we don't like.

Ha ha but im still a kid and i like seeing you get wound up even if you wont admitt it.

immature is like water ballons and whoopy chshions basket case or nut job is the correct term

No immature is what I meant. "Basket case" and "nut job" are offensive terms.

why do you want to censor people you disagree with? people who advocate permanent bans are stalinists

we don't want him banned because of his view. We want him banned because he's disrespectful, chilidish, rude, uses way to much profanity, and is just flat out a jerk.

Ha ha but im still a kid and i like seeing you get wound up even if you wont admitt it.

Congratulations. Hopefully you'll get over it.

Alansyism
Neo Alansyism
New Neo Alansyism
Liberal Alansyism
Conservative Alansyism
Liberal Fascists
Mozilla-Firefox


Alansyist Eurasia
Alansyist Utopia
Novo Neo Alansyism
Neo Brave New World

Alansyist Eurasia
Alansyist Utopia
Novo Neo Alansyism
Neo Brave New World

Wow. I missed quite a few there, didn't I. I wasn't even aware of "Neo Brave New World."

No immature is what I meant. "Basket case" and "nut job" are offensive terms.

immature can be offensive aswell, based on that we should all go around like the three monkeys not hearing seeing or saying anything

Fine. Not stupid. But immature to be sure. Advocating the deaths of those you dislike is a very immature attitude.

No. I just think if they want to go to Hell so badly, we should let them.

Ha ha but im still a kid and i like seeing you get wound up even if you wont admitt it.

And with that attitude you show how childish your arguments are and they get less respect. When you want to be treated like an adult you have to act like one.

we don't want him banned because of his view. We want him banned because he's disrespectful, chilidish, rude, uses way to much profanity, and is just flat out a jerk.
dont say that you might hurt his feelings

What a big man you are staying out of the gutter.

Thank you, I do my best. ;)

Were you one of those kids at school that ignored the people who gave him crap and hoped it would go away? People are naturally agressive when offended and enjoy watching people they dont like squirm

What the hell are you talking about? Not a thing you've said here makes sense, save for possbily being another one of those ignorant, baseless attacks...is that all you have left, little boy? How about you call me "gay" next? That'd be right in line with the current level of your debate.

Congratulations. Hopefully you'll get over it.

maby but you shouldnt be so uptight all the time, its ok to make a joke at others expence

Oh, and with the vampire thing, much of that stems from the fact that many people find biting extremely erotic, especially, but not always, on the neck.

I've had a girl leave a bruise on my arm from when she bit me that lasted about ten days, and I heal quickly. My current female associate has a tendancy to bite my tongue or edge of my cheek to produce the same effect. And that's just the cleaner details... *coughs*

Ears are also extremely good targets on some people, they're just not as easy to make a group around... elves, maybe...

Okay, folks, I've made my point here, and I don't plan to waste my night intellectually smacking around children over mundane subject material. This thread is really, really not worth 9 pages.

Oh, and with the vampire thing, much of that stems from the fact that many people find biting extremely erotic, especially, but not always, on the neck.

I've had a girl leave a bruise on my arm from when she bit me that lasted about ten days, and I heal quickly. My current female associate has a tendancy to bite my tongue or edge of my cheek to produce the same effect. And that's just the cleaner details... *coughs*

Ears are also extremely good targets on some people, they're just not as easy to make a group around... elves, maybe...

I don't want anyone biting me, ever.

Okay, folks, I've made my point here, and I don't plan to waste my night intellectually smacking around children over mundane subject material. This thread is really, really not worth 9 pages.

You're not worth blood in your veins.

huh. well good to see that my specific rebuttals went ignored.

and the thread progressed 4 pages while i wrote them too. :(

oh wait, i did a sad face, now i'm going to get called a goth and told "boo hoo, your life isn't so bad and if it is, i'll kill you because goths suck"

Rant on the whiny little shits that fool themselves into believing that noone has ever pretended to be a sad clown before.

My friend, these are what we call "attention whores", they all congregate on LiveJournal and bitch and moan about everything/nothing. Come to think of it, I have an image macro for just this situation.

It amazes me that they let themselves live. I am good friends with a truly depressed person, he dresses like anyone else and has the greatest, most cynical sense of humor I've heard in a long time, he functions like anyone should, but he hates his his family and general living conditions. He bites the bullet and puts up with the crap thats thrown his way.

While Goths put on a facade every morning when they wake up and take it off before bed. Goths put off a terrible impression to me, they just scream "I have horribly minor social and coping problems, if you pay attention to me it might have some marginal effect on my self esteem. But should you do more than that I'll accuse you of being a lemming and conforming to 'social norms' and 'The Man' or some such nonsense". I'm wondering if genocide is strictly race or faith related.

The current fad of vampirism is a farce, there is infact a disease in which the body is requiring a large amount of hemoglobin which it is being hardpressed to produce, so the body is then forced to find an alternate method of obtaining hemoglobin, namley other humans.

and said picture. http://img55.exs.cx/img55/2720/lookatme1.gif

I agree ^

Oh for fuck's sake, leave the fucking goths alone. Jesus fucking christ, how old is that movement? Fucking get over it-So what?

Ooooh, their different from you, they like something you don't-their 'same' in thier 'difference.' Big fucking deal. What, are you Gallegher? This little thing is too insurmountable for you to let go? It says less about them and more about your inability to understand complexity. Out of the pool.

Nothing is more pathetic, including Goths, than some fucking dumbass who can't seem to just fucking let it go. Why do you care so much? Did you get turned down by some Goth chick and now you're all bent about it? I mean really-grow the hell up. Fuck.

Could you people be any more stereotypical?
This thread is disgusting. No wonder the world is in the state it's in today, there is no compassion left in this world.

Maybe if you all would stop judging these "goths" and just let them live their lives how they choose, as that's the least you can do, we would all be better off. I sure don't need your pompus blabbering about how "pathetic" these humans are, just as you don't need mine on the other hand.

Stop the madness, live as you see fit. And keep your shit to yourself... or would that make you a depressed goth?

You're not worth blood in your veins.

"Yeah, so there!" Grow up.

And you base that on what? Let's see, I intellectually contributed to this thread (as much of a waste as that may have been), while you merely contributed, "Yah, I agree! Goths are teh suck!" So, if that's my worth, where does that put you then?

I never realised the Goths were this important in America. Do you think it was the Goths that swayed the vote? Do you think some anti-gothic measures are needed in the future? Which were the black states again?

I never realised the Goths were this important in America. Do you think it was the Goths that swayed the vote? Do you think some anti-gothic measures are needed in the future?

Actually, such measures have been proposed. I remember hearing about it on one of those "wackiest government actions" lists. Somewhere in the US, someone once very seriously advocated pumping much funding into programs and measures to combat the rise of the goth subculture. I forget where, and trying to Google vague terms like goth, law, and control just pop up coutless sites, so I give up trying to find specifics. I seem to recall that it was in the Midwest.

Yes, people are just that concerned when other people dare to deviate from the norm.

Ok. You've put the queers in their place. Goths next, good.

The speech at the begining of this thread blew, and I mean it stank like three week old pork chops in the august Arizona sun-stank, damn.
While I disagree with Anbar on many points, the point of this thread not deserving nine pages is spot-fecking-on.
Who cares.
I sense some mascara envy.
The obvious obsession with the Goth culture( I use the term culture loosely on this occasion) is a definate sign of a desire to be a part of it, even if that part is in opposition to it, because it still allows the obsessed to justify focusing their concentration on the subject without openly joining it.

Goth, is not what it was 15 years ago anyway.
It used to be a counter-culture now it is another branch of popculture.
And so is bashing it.
Tripe, all of it.

Dude, that speech was totally not cool. You're attacking one group of people. Why don't you try and be nice? Why don't you try and be nice to these goths, maybe all they need is a friend. Money isn't everything. You could have millions of dollars, and still be miserable, because, again, money isn't everything. I know most of them are poseurs, and that's their right, so why do you feel like you have to write a big long speech about how dumb they are?

Conforming to deviant groups is always funny to me.

Well, not all Goths are self-hating depress-whores. But the ones that are need to grow up and see the pain experienced in third-world countries. Maybe then they'll realize what true pain is.

Yeah I agree. I hate the hypocrisy of America though. We say we want such-and-such from our government, but elect those who have proven the exact opposite. All sorts of people (like these Goths you know) claim to be unique and individual, when really they are imitating it in the exact same way as the rest of their damn clique. Even cool teachers at cool alternative schools sometimes sound like they're following instructions on how to be original. It's so stupid. Plus, it makes those of us who are actually authentic but look like a clique have a harder time at it. I remember when I first started riding my skateboard to school in 6th or 7th grade everyone called me a poser. I was like, what the hell is your problem. I realize now that they thought I was trying to break into their oh-so-exclusive 'sk8r gurlz' clique. Uh, no. Now I just look like so many different stereotypes at different times of the day that nobody would mistake me for a clique person. And what about the guy I like? Externally, he looks like this stereotypical skater punk boy. But he's really school-smart, likes techno and DDR, makes music on his computer at home, and knows that a draft isn't the president's choice, it's the Senate's - which I didn't know and I like to think I'm politically educated for my age. I don't think he even has a skateboard. And now if someone is really depressed but they show it in a gothic way, they're not gonna be taken seriously. *sigh*

They also seem to have a pathological need for attention, but aren’t talented enough to receive it.

Yeah, wouldn't it suck to be like that?

Yeah, wouldn't it suck to be like that?
Zing!

Yeah, wouldn't it suck to be like that?
hehe

Quite honestly I found your speech very offensive. My best friends are goths, I have grown up with them and shared their pain over many years.
They also seem to have a pathological need for attention, but aren’t talented enough to receive it
I am school captain, my friends Jess has artworks parliament house and all over the world, Stacey has learn fluent german for a hobby, the others are exceptional academics with talent in everything from art to maths.
All of these people come from broken families, have been abused and neared suicide. No matter how rich or successful you are, if you have no love in your life it is not worth living. I'd rather be handicapped than alone wouldnt you?
Whilest I agree that they feed from each others unhappiness, I feel that you must understand that depression is a phsycological problem. People having different ways of coping with anguish and whilest their way may be different to yours it does not mean that you have a right to judge.
My friends have all read your speech and they did not react in the slightest, they accepted your opinion which makes them significantly better people than you. Do something more creative with your time, and learn to accept that life would be boring without difference.

Quite honestly I found your speech very offensive. My best friends are goths, I have grown up with them and shared their pain over many years.
They also seem to have a pathological need for attention, but aren’t talented enough to receive it
I am school captain, my friends Jess has artworks parliament house and all over the world, Stacey has learn fluent german for a hobby, the others are exceptional academics with talent in everything from art to maths.
All of these people come from broken families, have been abused and neared suicide. No matter how rich or successful you are, if you have no love in your life it is not worth living. I'd rather be handicapped than alone wouldnt you?
Whilest I agree that they feed from each others unhappiness, I feel that you must understand that depression is a phsycological problem. People having different ways of coping with anguish and whilest their way may be different to yours it does not mean that you have a right to judge.
My friends have all read your speech and they did not react in the slightest, they accepted your opinion which makes them significantly better people than you. Do something more creative with your time, and learn to accept that life would be boring without difference.

Do something more creative? What are you talking about we are so much better then the goths that we must talk badly about them online. We are so cool. We feel so good about ourselves that we can't just let them live like they want, no we must make fun of them because we are awesome. hahahahahaha how pathetic.

I rarely correct someones grammar and spelling. But that was possibly the most pathetic piece of narcissim, and bad grammar I've ever seen. My "arrogence" makes me studpid? Please explain your complex theroy on the relation of "arrogence" and stupidity.

Let's see:

"studpid"

"repbulican"

"spelling. But"

"someones"

You're not all that great either, sherlock.

Let's see:

"studpid"

"repbulican"

"spelling. But"

"someones"

You're not all that great either, sherlock.
It's "Sherlock." :)

Wow, this has gone from some retarded judgemental bullcrap about Goths, to a grammar lesson.

I luv NS!

Wow, this has gone from some retarded judgemental bullcrap about Goths, to a grammar lesson.

I luv NS!
There was no real topic to begin with. Some jackass just copied someone's work to piss people off, and it worked. So we decided to make fun of grammar.

There was no real topic to begin with. Some jackass just copied someone's work to piss people off, and it worked. So we decided to make fun of grammar.

That's the most genius form of rebellion.

That's the most genius form of rebellion.
Well, I do have an IQ of 210. And since I said it on the Internet, it must be true.

Well, I do have an IQ of 210. And since I said it on the Internet, it must be true.

Wow, your IQ, is the same number that my penis is in inches!

Wow, your IQ, is the same number that my penis is in inches!
Everytime you get aroused you must pass out from the blood relocation...

(sorry, the twelve year old in the back of my head that still thinks that funny insisted on that...)

Wow, your IQ, is the same number that my penis is in inches!
Did you remember to roll it up this morning before you got out of bed and found this lovely topic?

Did you remember to roll it up this morning before you got out of bed and found this lovely topic?

Ahh yes I did, and I put it in a large kitchen glass and straped it too my leg, so I wouldn't get it caught in my bicycle spokes on my way to school!

There was no real topic to begin with. Some jackass just copied someone's work to piss people off, and it worked. So we decided to make fun of grammar.
It is more interesting to read people going on about grammar.
Truth be told.

Ahh yes I did, and I put it in a large kitchen glass and straped it too my leg, so I wouldn't get it caught in my bicycle spokes on my way to school!
See for mine I just tie it into a lasso and fling it at the school, and reel myself in. Faster than biking.

See for mine I just tie it into a lasso and fling it at the school, and reel myself in. Faster than biking.

I could only imagine the painful bruising and swelling.

I could only imagine the painful bruising and swelling.
What can I say, Big Boy can take a licking and keep on ticking.