NationStates Jolt Archive


Lemme copy Genoea...What party best fits me? :p

Imperial Puerto Rico
19-11-2004, 06:22
I'm against abortion but Pro Euthanasia
Pro Stem Cell research

Pro Death Penatly

Pro 2nd Amendment. I do not believe in gun regulation at all in any way. The right to bear arms means the right to bear arms.

Against Hate Crime Laws

Fiercely against Affirmative Action

I'm against government involvement in marriage

Against Social Welfare unless major reforms are made

For privatizing Social Security

Support Capitalism and Free Trade. Not sure about Minimum Wage Laws or allowing unions

Support free speech to an extent. No Socialist/Communist garbage, anti-FCC and censorship

For School Vouchers

I do not support the legalization of any drug for recreational use. Maybe Marijuana, but I'm not sure

I believe the US should be non-interventionalist. Only engage in war when the country or the country's national interests are threatened. No Liberation of any country no matter how genocidal/oppressive their leader is

Against Environmental Protection in nearly every way.
Chodolo
19-11-2004, 06:27
You sound mostly paleo-conservative. You'd probably agree with most of what Pat Buchanan and Michael Peroutka (of the Constitution Party) have to say.
Imperial Puerto Rico
19-11-2004, 06:30
You sound mostly paleo-conservative. You'd probably agree with most of what Pat Buchanan and Michael Peroutka (of the Constitution Party) have to say.

They're bible thumpers, correct? I loathe bible thumpers. Religion in politics is the single most biggest threat to freedom...
Imperial Puerto Rico
19-11-2004, 09:17
bump
Cosgrach
19-11-2004, 09:20
Sounds close to libertarian as I understand them anyway :D (except for that criminalization of drugs thing )
Goed Twee
19-11-2004, 09:21
Yeah, no constitution party. They want a theocracy :p

Scorched Earth Party! (http://www.ironycentral.com/scorchedearth.html)
Chodolo
19-11-2004, 09:33
They're bible thumpers, correct? I loathe bible thumpers. Religion in politics is the single most biggest threat to freedom...
Most of them are deeply religious, but you'd be surprised to hear what they have to say about the Federal Marriage Amendment: they oppose it. Although they are most often morally against gay marriage, they believe it is one further example of the feds increasing their power over the states and meddling in things that should be private.

Basically, paleo-cons are the strict constitutionalists, the small-government, states' rights crowd. In foreign policy they are isolationist. They are social conservatives, but think such things should be left to the states, not the government to enforce. They also believe immigration should be reduced.

Sounds close to libertarian as I understand them anyway
Uh uh. No way. No libertarian would criminalize abortion or drugs. I don't think libertarians like the death penalty either. I also am not sure about their position on school vouchers, but it doesn't sound very libertarian either.
Imperial Puerto Rico
19-11-2004, 09:39
Paleo-Conservative.

I've been called that many times but never knew what the hell it meant...
New Granada
19-11-2004, 09:41
I'm against abortion but Pro Euthanasia
Pro Stem Cell research

Pro Death Penatly

Pro 2nd Amendment. I do not believe in gun regulation at all in any way. The right to bear arms means the right to bear arms.

Against Hate Crime Laws

Fiercely against Affirmative Action

I'm against government involvement in marriage

Against Social Welfare unless major reforms are made

For privatizing Social Security

Support Capitalism and Free Trade. Not sure about Minimum Wage Laws or allowing unions

Support free speech to an extent. No Socialist/Communist garbage, anti-FCC and censorship

For School Vouchers

I do not support the legalization of any drug for recreational use. Maybe Marijuana, but I'm not sure

I believe the US should be non-interventionalist. Only engage in war when the country or the country's national interests are threatened. No Liberation of any country no matter how genocidal/oppressive their leader is

Against Environmental Protection in nearly every way.


You are a George Bush Republican
Imperial Puerto Rico
19-11-2004, 09:43
George Bush Republican? Hardly...
New Granada
19-11-2004, 09:46
George Bush Republican? Hardly...


Pro death penalty, anti social services and anti minority.

That plus your pro business stance makes you effectively a bush republican.
Imperial Puerto Rico
19-11-2004, 09:48
Right, because obviously Bush Republicans are non-interventionalists...
Chodolo
19-11-2004, 09:52
You are a George Bush Republican
Nah, GWB is a neo-conservative heavily influenced by the religious right.

Primary distinctions between neo-cons and paleo-cons:

1) Neo-cons are aggressive in foreign policy, strike first, secure American interests at expense of what our allies think, large military spending, boderline imperialist. Paleo-cons are more isolationist, strongly opposed to any pre-emptive war, anti-interventionalist.

2) Neo-cons believe in a powerful federal government (Patriot Act, etc). Paleo-cons believe in a weak federal government, and stronger state governments.

3) Neo-cons are willing to modify the constitution just as quickly as pass a law. Paleo-cons are averse to constitutional amendments, and advocate stricter adherence to the current constitution.
Imperial Puerto Rico
19-11-2004, 09:54
Nah, GWB is a neo-conservative heavily influenced by the religious right.

Primary distinctions between neo-cons and paleo-cons:

1) Neo-cons are aggressive in foreign policy, strike first, secure American interests at expense of what our allies think, large military spending, boderline imperialist. Paleo-cons are more isolationist, strongly opposed to any pre-emptive war, anti-interventionalist.

2) Neo-cons believe in a powerful federal government (Patriot Act, etc). Paleo-cons believe in a weak federal government, and stronger state governments.

3) Neo-cons are willing to modify the constitution just as quickly as pass a law. Paleo-cons are averse to constitutional amendments, and advocate stricter adherence to the current constitution.


The more you explain, the more I begin to believe I am aa Paleo-Con
Chodolo
19-11-2004, 10:19
Paleo-cons are also anti-free trade.

You should check out some of Pat Buchanan's writings at http://www.theamericancause.org/

There's a bunch archived http://www.theamericancause.org/patarchives.htm

And a somewhat biased but very good explanation of rise of neo-conservatism, and the fundamental differences they have with paleo-conservatives. http://www.polemics.us/archives/000557.php