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I really don't know. Just a few things off the top of my head...


I'm pro-choice, but very morally against abortion.
I am against the death penalty.
I'm against government involvement in marriage, but pro-gay marriage if that's not an option.
I support mild forms of government-funded healthcare, welfare, and Social Security
I support capitalism and free trade, but with respect to the worker as well (minimum wage laws, unions, etc.)
I'm against affirmative action
I'm against hate crime laws
I support free speech in all forms - whether it be by conservatives, liberals, Nazis, Communists, etc. I'm very anti-FCC and anti-censorship.
I do not support privatizing the public school system
I do support the right to bear arms with several restrictions (a well-regulated militia, anyone?)
I support the legalization of all drugs.
I wish that US troops would be withdrawn from unneccessary locations and a foreign policy that does not ignore the plight of the world, but DOES NOT just invade nations left and right.
I believe in protecting the environment, but not to the point of setting up EPA death squads or any such thing. In other words, some environmental regulations, but not a Nazi-esque type of regulated environment.


these are the things I got off the top of my head

All of those except the gun thing are democratic veiws.

Plus you seem to agree with me an awful lot.

You're a Canadian, or at least we'd be happy to have you.

You're a Canadian, or at least we'd be happy to have you.

Too cold.

Genoa, you seem to be either Libertarian or Democratic to me

I'd put you in the libertarian party, but if you were going for one of the major two, then the democrats.

If you were British I'd say Lib Dem

I'd say you're an independent. I know that's not what you're asking, but you wouldn't be happy with either party. You could be a bitter democrat, an angry Republican, or a happy independent. You are slightly left of the middle, but not enough to be Democrat, and not right enough to be Republican.

Genoa, you seem to be either Libertarian or Democratic to me
Not Liberatarian because of your soft socialist economic views, and not democrat because youre against certain issues. But I guess youll have to settle for a party that doesnt follow every one of your views.

I'm pro-choice, but very morally against abortion.
I am against the death penalty.
I'm against government involvement in marriage, but pro-gay marriage if that's not an option.
I support mild forms of government-funded healthcare, welfare, and Social Security
I support capitalism and free trade, but with respect to the worker as well (minimum wage laws, unions, etc.)
I'm against affirmative action
I'm against hate crime laws
I support free speech in all forms - whether it be by conservatives, liberals, Nazis, Communists, etc. I'm very anti-FCC and anti-censorship.
I do not support privatizing the public school system
I do support the right to bear arms with several restrictions (a well-regulated militia, anyone?)
I support the legalization of all drugs.
I wish that US troops would be withdrawn from unneccessary locations and a foreign policy that does not ignore the plight of the world, but DOES NOT just invade nations left and right.
I believe in protecting the environment, but not to the point of setting up EPA death squads or any such thing. In other words, some environmental regulations, but not a Nazi-esque type of regulated environment.



I agree with EVERY one of your points.

I side with the Democrats, but would prefer a more libertarian social approach, namely towards guns and special minority rights which I vehemently disagree with (affirmative action, hate crime laws, etc). The government is getting way too involved in our daily lives. Less laws, less restrictions, less control. But I see the necessity of welfare, and would like to see socialized healthcare as well.

I would have to say Left-leaning Libertarian.

Here's a question. Pro free trade, anti free trade, or pro abusing free trade? (Guess which one the current American administration practices.)

I really don't know. Just a few things off the top of my head...


I'm pro-choice, but very morally against abortion.
I am against the death penalty.
I'm against government involvement in marriage, but pro-gay marriage if that's not an option.
I support mild forms of government-funded healthcare, welfare, and Social Security
I support capitalism and free trade, but with respect to the worker as well (minimum wage laws, unions, etc.)
I'm against affirmative action
I'm against hate crime laws
I support free speech in all forms - whether it be by conservatives, liberals, Nazis, Communists, etc. I'm very anti-FCC and anti-censorship.
I do not support privatizing the public school system
I do support the right to bear arms with several restrictions (a well-regulated militia, anyone?)
I support the legalization of all drugs.
I wish that US troops would be withdrawn from unneccessary locations and a foreign policy that does not ignore the plight of the world, but DOES NOT just invade nations left and right.
I believe in protecting the environment, but not to the point of setting up EPA death squads or any such thing. In other words, some environmental regulations, but not a Nazi-esque type of regulated environment.


these are the things I got off the top of my head
libertarian..you would just stay pissed at the dems..they are pro affirmitave action..anti-free speech..but only with certain groups...they love hate-crime laws..they want a large welfare system...i personally think of it as a way to buy votes..."vote dem more welfare"...they want nobody to have guns except their armies...the dems have actually proposed the need to have regulated licenses to raft on certain river, with a limited number given each year..hmm i wonder who will get those..all in the name of protecting the enviroment..lots more reasons but to list them would probably turn this into a flamewar...themm liberals get rreal upset when you question their methods

I'd say you're an independent. I know that's not what you're asking, but you wouldn't be happy with either party. You could be a bitter democrat, an angry Republican, or a happy independent. You are slightly left of the middle, but not enough to be Democrat, and not right enough to be Republican.

Well, when I turn 18, I will be going independent. I'd just like to know which party best fits my description for the heck of it.

Here's a question. Pro free trade, anti free trade, or pro abusing free trade? (Guess which one the current American administration practices.)

I'm all for free trade, but definitely against the abuse of it.

I'd also like to note that I favor the legalization of prostitution too to add to the social scale more.

You're a Canadian, or at least we'd be happy to have you.

No, not really.

libertarian..you would just stay pissed at the dems..they are pro affirmitave action..anti-free speech..but only with certain groups...they love hate-crime laws..they want a large welfare system...i personally think of it as a way to buy votes..."vote dem more welfare"...they want nobody to have guns except their armies...the dems have actually proposed the need to have regulated licenses to raft on certain river, with a limited number given each year..hmm i wonder who will get those..all in the name of protecting the enviroment..lots more reasons but to list them would probably turn this into a flamewar...themm liberals get rreal upset when you question their methods
As if the Republicans do any better towards the libertarian ideal. With exception of guns, they have the most notorious civil rights record. Anything involving sex is subject to regulation, banning, attacking, legislation, etc. In any case New Genoa is fine with welfare, healthcare, and other programs, something the Republicans try to dismantle.

I agree with each point New Genoa listed, and I feel the Republicans' transgressions are far worse than the Democrats'.

If I could though, I would vote for some mix of a Green and a Libertarian.

No, not really.

You're from Alberta?

You're from Alberta?

No, Ontario. Alberta is full of red neck gun-totting conservatives. :)

I'm a Marxist-Leninist Party member in Ontario.

Interesting political views... you will be waiting a long time for all drugs and prostitution to be decriminalised. A few countries have declassified cannabis with some success but no one has ever seriously spoke of allowing the others to follow suit, as far as I know there are no western governments that allow prostitution, some countries have tolerance zones were its vaguely allowed, but thats it.
Again this is the problem of the US two party system, no chance of everyones views being represented.

You seem like a Democrat to me, but you could also go Green. The Libertarian party shares your social views but is more right-winged economically. Of course, you could just register as independent and leave it to the individual situation.

Yeah, registering independent and voting on each candidate seems right for you.

definitely Libertarian, pal. definitely.

If I could though, I would vote for some mix of a Green and a Libertarian.

Exactly.

You seem like a rational human being, but maybe that's because I (and most of the world) agree with (the majority of) your views.

I say never to vote along party lines, only on what the candidate stands for.
If you can't tell, or hate both candidates, go for which party's ideals happen to look better to you.

Right now I'd say Libertarians (or maybe Independents)... (while voting usually for Democrats)

Ideology conflicts with Dem Party:

affirmative action: (race vs. socioeconomic based ?)
hate crime laws: (eh ?)
legalization of drugs: (mixed party opinions/unrealistic in current era)
against death penalty: (mixed party opinions)
private schools: (mixed party opinions)

Interesting political views... you will be waiting a long time for all drugs and prostitution to be decriminalised. A few countries have declassified cannabis with some success but no one has ever seriously spoke of allowing the others to follow suit, as far as I know there are no western governments that allow prostitution, some countries have tolerance zones were its vaguely allowed, but thats it.
Again this is the problem of the US two party system, no chance of everyones views being represented.

I believe prostitution is legal in the Netherlands. Besides you don't need to have street prostitutes at first. You could just go with brothels to start off.

I don't do drugs (I know you didn't say anything about me doing it, just mentioning), but I do realize people's right to their individual liberties. Plus, the US didn't have drugs laws until 1875 (?) when there was some legislation passed against opium. I know legalizing drugs and prostitution would be difficult and it definitley couldn't be done all at once.

Interesting political views... you will be waiting a long time for all drugs and prostitution to be decriminalised. A few countries have declassified cannabis with some success but no one has ever seriously spoke of allowing the others to follow suit, as far as I know there are no western governments that allow prostitution, some countries have tolerance zones were its vaguely allowed, but thats it.
Again this is the problem of the US two party system, no chance of everyones views being represented.
Yeah, that's a big problem. I'll probably never even see pot decriminalized in my lifetime (hell, it's even under fire for medical uses! If oxycontin is legal with prescription, why the hell not marijuana?!)

Yeah, registering independent and voting on each candidate seems right for you.
I thought about registering as Democrat, but settled on independant. If more people registered as independant maybe the candidates would listen to you more and not just assume you're either voting for or against them. I dunno. There's advantages to choosing a party (voting in primaries). I might change my mind and go Democrat. If I ever were to run for office I would run as a Democrat, unless I really had a chance as an independant. The nature of fundraising, political strategy, and interest groups in America kind of precludes the range of successful third parties that is more common in Europe and Australia.

In any case, I want to work for change from within. I want the Democrats to stop selling out to minority groups and end affirmative action. I would be open to such preferences only by income, which is the true reason for the poor statistics of minorities in America. I want the Democrats to stop with their inane attack on guns. Blue America may be fine with European style gun banning, but the vast majority of America regards guns as a fundamental right (as do I). I want Democrats to take a stand on gay civil unions, with FULL rights as marriage (as long as they back off the *word*, America can and will stomach it). I want Democrats to take a stand on medical marijuana...it's the first step towards decriminalization. I want Democrats to stand up for abortion rights. I want Democrats to raise more questions about the death penalty. We work with what we have, as far as national support. But we gradually push our ideas into practice.

Well, when I turn 18, I will be going independent. I'd just like to know which party best fits my description for the heck of it.

One suggestion: vote independent, but register as either a Democrat or a Republican. Why? Because as an indpendent, you have no say whatsoever as to who either of the two major parties nominate, leaving you "stuck" with having to choose between those they pick as candidates.

there's always the world's smallest political quiz:

http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html

Just note, however, that it is written and hosted by libertarian group, and has a heavy laoding in the wording of the questions to lean answers in that direction.

But in my honest opinion, you would probably mostly get along with the libertarian party. However, your opinions on welfare would go directly against the party line, and most of them would support privatization of schools and a more literal translation of the second amendment (the usual counterargument to your brief rationale on the subject would be that in the context of 18th century English, well-regulated would have meant regularly practiced with well-maintained gear rather than the more modern tendancy for the phrase to imply some sort of bureaucratic control)

Still, though, I think you do have a lot in common with most self-proclaimed but party-independent libertarians.

In any case, I want to work for change from within. I want the Democrats to stop selling out to minority groups and end affirmative action. I would be open to such preferences only by income, which is the true reason for the poor statistics of minorities in America. I want the Democrats to stop with their inane attack on guns. Blue America may be fine with European style gun banning, but the vast majority of America regards guns as a fundamental right (as do I). I want Democrats to take a stand on gay civil unions, with FULL rights as marriage (as long as they back off the *word*, America can and will stomach it). I want Democrats to take a stand on medical marijuana...it's the first step towards decriminalization. I want Democrats to stand up for abortion rights. I want Democrats to raise more questions about the death penalty. We work with what we have, as far as national support. But we gradually push our ideas into practice.

The dems' should run you as their next candidate. You'd win. You almost have my vote.

I'm pro-choice, but very morally against abortion.
I am against the death penalty.
I'm against government involvement in marriage, but pro-gay marriage if that's not an option.
I support mild forms of government-funded healthcare, welfare, and Social Security
I support capitalism and free trade, but with respect to the worker as well (minimum wage laws, unions, etc.)
I'm against affirmative action
I'm against hate crime laws
I support free speech in all forms - whether it be by conservatives, liberals, Nazis, Communists, etc. I'm very anti-FCC and anti-censorship.
I do not support privatizing the public school system
I do support the right to bear arms with several restrictions (a well-regulated militia, anyone?)
I support the legalization of all drugs.
I wish that US troops would be withdrawn from unneccessary locations and a foreign policy that does not ignore the plight of the world, but DOES NOT just invade nations left and right.
I believe in protecting the environment, but not to the point of setting up EPA death squads or any such thing. In other words, some environmental regulations, but not a Nazi-esque type of regulated environment.



You're Bill Clinton (centrist democrat). Congratulations. :)

Too cold.

Well your view make you a mainstream Canadian Liberal, unfortunately the "too cold" statement means your IQ make you unacceptable.
(Vancouver has the same average weather as Seattle,Wa. and Sydney, Australia, no-one suggested it was required to move to the North Pole to be in Canada.

Anyway ... figured I'd jump on this bandwagon, but not make a whole new thread about it. I know which party fits me, but I'll make the same list here ...

I'm very pro-choice and I have no moral objection to abortion. I am very morally opposed to forcing raped women to have the baby.
I am very against the death penalty.
I believe marriage to be a state issue and that no religion should hold a lock on it. I fully support gay marriage.
I support all forms of government-funded healthcare, welfare, and Social Security.
I support moderate capitalism and cannot abide unchecked free trade.
I'm for affirmative action.
I'm for hate crime laws.
I support free speech in all forms - whether it be by conservatives, liberals, Nazis, Communists, etc. I'm very anti-FCC and anti-censorship.
I do not support privatizing the public school system.
I support the right to bear arms, but I believe in the Texas system of regulating that right. (Cannot own guns if you are currently on felony probation, are under a restraining order, have been proven to be mentally unfit, etc) Further, I believe gun ownership must come with gun education.
I support the legalization of all drugs.
I wish that US troops would be withdrawn from unneccessary locations and a foreign policy that does not ignore the plight of the world, but DOES NOT just invade nations left and right.
I believe in protecting the environment at all costs.

I really don't know. Just a few things off the top of my head...


I'm pro-choice, but very morally against abortion.
I am against the death penalty.
I'm against government involvement in marriage, but pro-gay marriage if that's not an option.
I support mild forms of government-funded healthcare, welfare, and Social Security
I support capitalism and free trade, but with respect to the worker as well (minimum wage laws, unions, etc.)
I'm against affirmative action
I'm against hate crime laws
I support free speech in all forms - whether it be by conservatives, liberals, Nazis, Communists, etc. I'm very anti-FCC and anti-censorship.
I do not support privatizing the public school system
I do support the right to bear arms with several restrictions (a well-regulated militia, anyone?)
I support the legalization of all drugs.
I wish that US troops would be withdrawn from unneccessary locations and a foreign policy that does not ignore the plight of the world, but DOES NOT just invade nations left and right.
I believe in protecting the environment, but not to the point of setting up EPA death squads or any such thing. In other words, some environmental regulations, but not a Nazi-esque type of regulated environment.


these are the things I got off the top of my head
I'm pro-choice, but for the rest I agree with you.
I wouldn't vote Dem. Any suggestions?

free-trade is flawed in principle, fair-trade is the way

you should probably vote nader

No, Ontario. Alberta is full of red neck gun-totting conservatives. :)

I'm a Marxist-Leninist Party member in Ontario.

No, Alberta is not full of red neck gun-totting conservatives, thank you very much. But thank you for sharing your biased and shallow opinion with us all, we really appreciate it.

New Genoa : If you were Canadian, you'd probably vote for the Liberal party. The Liberals are a center party, and are our best option for people who have a mix of socialist and conservative views. By American standards, I would say that you are a Democrat through and through.

Well your view make you a mainstream Canadian Liberal, unfortunately the "too cold" statement means your IQ make you unacceptable.
(Vancouver has the same average weather as Seattle,Wa. and Sydney, Australia, no-one suggested it was required to move to the North Pole to be in Canada.

So Canadians are only allowing people into their nation on a basis of elitist IQ's nowadays? It's funny how one statement can make your IQ completely useless...

So Canadians are only allowing people into their nation on a basis of elitist IQ's nowadays? It's funny how one statement can make your IQ completely useless...

Mwaha. Indeed. :D

You can come to Alberta if you like. Its cold here, but other Canadians make derogatory cliche remarks about our IQs as well, so you'll fit right in.

Mwaha. Indeed. :D

You can come to Alberta if you like. Its cold here, but other Canadians make derogatory cliche remarks about our IQs as well, so you'll fit right in.

Well, being conservative automatically makes you an inbred hillbilly, doesn't it?! ;)

Well, being conservative automatically makes you an inbred hillbilly, doesn't it?! ;)

Yes, it does.

Yes, it does.

Fiscal conservatism means you're inbred? Funny. :rolleyes: Not supporting abortion makes you inbred? Does having moral qualms with something make you inbred? The only thing that makes you inbred is if a baby pops out after mum and dad (bro and sis) do the dance.

I really don't know. Just a few things off the top of my head...


I'm pro-choice, but very morally against abortion.
I am against the death penalty.
I'm against government involvement in marriage, but pro-gay marriage if that's not an option.
I support mild forms of government-funded healthcare, welfare, and Social Security
I support capitalism and free trade, but with respect to the worker as well (minimum wage laws, unions, etc.)
I'm against affirmative action
I'm against hate crime laws
I support free speech in all forms - whether it be by conservatives, liberals, Nazis, Communists, etc. I'm very anti-FCC and anti-censorship.
I do not support privatizing the public school system
I do support the right to bear arms with several restrictions (a well-regulated militia, anyone?)
I support the legalization of all drugs.
I wish that US troops would be withdrawn from unneccessary locations and a foreign policy that does not ignore the plight of the world, but DOES NOT just invade nations left and right.
I believe in protecting the environment, but not to the point of setting up EPA death squads or any such thing. In other words, some environmental regulations, but not a Nazi-esque type of regulated environment.


these are the things I got off the top of my head

I'll go through each issue one at a time and average things out:
Abortion: Moderate Democrat
Death Penalty: Democrat
Marriage Rights: Libertarian, second choice Democrat
Socialized Medicine and Pensions: Democrat
That next one: Centrist
Affirmative Action: Republican
Hate Crime Laws: Republican
Free Speech: Libertarian
Education: Democrat
Gun Rights: Moderate Democrat
Drugs: Libertarian
Foreign Policy: Democrat
Environment: Moderate Democrat

You would appear to be a moderate Democrat. The National Libertarian Party Website has a link to a 5-minute political analysis. It would probably answer your question better than anyone on the forums can.

Libertarian, I'd say.

So it seems the parties people have listed are either Democrat or Libertarian [and independent].

free-trade is flawed in principle, fair-trade is the way

you should probably vote nader

I don't know about Nader - his environmental policies are a bit too extreme. And I believe he also supports affirmative action and hate crime laws as well. And probably TOO much welfare.

Also , other people (like before) can post their stances on the issues, etc.

I really don't know. Just a few things off the top of my head...


I'm pro-choice, but very morally against abortion.
I am against the death penalty.
I'm against government involvement in marriage, but pro-gay marriage if that's not an option.
I support mild forms of government-funded healthcare, welfare, and Social Security
I support capitalism and free trade, but with respect to the worker as well (minimum wage laws, unions, etc.)
I'm against affirmative action
I'm against hate crime laws
I support free speech in all forms - whether it be by conservatives, liberals, Nazis, Communists, etc. I'm very anti-FCC and anti-censorship.
I do not support privatizing the public school system
I do support the right to bear arms with several restrictions (a well-regulated militia, anyone?)
I support the legalization of all drugs.
I wish that US troops would be withdrawn from unneccessary locations and a foreign policy that does not ignore the plight of the world, but DOES NOT just invade nations left and right.
I believe in protecting the environment, but not to the point of setting up EPA death squads or any such thing. In other words, some environmental regulations, but not a Nazi-esque type of regulated environment.


these are the things I got off the top of my head



You're an upstanding member of the Democratic Party.

Welcome My 'New- "European location starting with G" name' brother!