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What is the Best type of Government? I think it would be a benevolent dictatorship. We wouldnt have to deal with polititions and the government could act on issues quickly and decisively. The only problem with that people are to easly corrupted by power, thus you would basicly have to have Jesus or Buhda or something ruling it in order to work.

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Yes you would. Which is why there is no such thing as a benevolent dictatorship. Hell, people often find democracies too authoritarian.

Constitutional Dictatorship, with legislature controlling expenditures? And the Dictator being elected for life might work.

A modern democratic republic works just fine in my opinion though.

What is the Best type of Government? I think it would be a benevolent dictatorship. We wouldnt have to deal with polititions and the government could act on issues quickly and decisively. The only problem with that people are to easly corrupted by power, thus you would basicly have to have Jesus or Buhda or something ruling it in order to work.
Enlightened dictatorship sounds good to me. All it needs is a sub-council which can take action if the dictator takes a turn for the "unenlightened".

Benevolent dictatorship is the most efficient. A democracy or republic is probably the best.

what is a Father-Knows-Best then, i thought it was a benevolent dictatorship

No government at all. We don't need government. It is élitist and has a negative effect on moral character.

Hey, let's try futuristic feudalism/monarchy! It would be like He-man and the Masters of the Universe. I want some of that crazy flying chariot action.

Monarchy is cool

No government at all. We don't need government. It is élitist and has a negative effect on moral character.

:headbang: :confused: :mp5: :sniper: :gundge:

No government at all. We don't need government. It is élitist and has a negative effect on moral character.
ALL RIGHT!!!!! without government i can finaly rally my peeps, Jump in my tenichal (truck with macine gun turret) go around and rape and pillage to my hearts content! whos going to stop me the police, the Amry?? oh wait they run by the governemnt. Although armed mercinaries could be a problem....

No government at all. We don't need government. It is élitist and has a negative effect on moral character.

I see you post that a lot, but I really don't understand how it would work. What would stop people from starting their own "little" governments for themselves.

ALL RIGHT!!!!! without government i can finaly rally my peeps, Jump in my tenichal (truck with macine gun turret) go around and rape and pillage to my hearts content! whos going to stop me the police, the Amry?? oh wait they run by the governemnt. Although armed mercinaries could be a problem....
Rape and Pillage! YAY! Want to join your peeps up with my drunken mob? We could probably take on the entire state of Ohio and make it our own little land of doom

ALL RIGHT!!!!! without government i can finaly rally my peeps, Jump in my tenichal (truck with macine gun turret) go around and rape and pillage to my hearts content! whos going to stop me the police, the Amry?? oh wait they run by the governemnt. Although armed mercinaries could be a problem....

Why would you want to do that? More importantly, why doesn't the government do that? They have nukes, afterall, they could do far more damage.

Why would you want to do that? .
So I can make other people do stuff for me.

Rape and Pillage! YAY! Want to join your peeps up with my drunken mob? We could probably take on the entire state of Ohio and make it our own little land of doom
Yes, Muhahahahahaha! I love Drunken mobs! AK 47s for EVERYONE! Cleveland shall be ours, ALL will fear the wrath of the Drunken Mob of DOOM! :D

Yes, Muhahahahahaha! I love Drunken mobs! AK 47s for EVERYONE! Cleveland shall be ours, ALL will fear the wrath of the Drunken Mob of DOOM! :D
YES!!!! Just like the Ghengis Khan's Golden Horde, only better.

Great,.....now we have a drunken mob rampaging across............cleveland
*pulls out his M40A3, and cocks it*
Time to get busy

Odd how government officials somehow resist the urge to go on killing sprees using weapons far nastier than anything we possess. Are you saying you are less moral than Bill Clinton?

A Centrist Democratic Constitutional Oligarchy...

Odd how government officials somehow resist the urge to go on killing sprees using weapons far nastier than anything we possess. Are you saying you are less moral than Bill Clinton?
The Government does not go on killing sprees becuase it would distablize social order and get people angry and more likly to want to over throw it. Also, killing sprees would be bad for the economy the cost of the damage to property would be enormous. Also people would flee the country and so would coperations, (it would be to muhc of a liabilty to be based there) Bill Clinton was a player that had bad choice in women. poor sod.




ALL will Fear the Wrath of The Drunken Mob of Doom! (my new signature :D )

The Government does not go on killing sprees becuase it would distablize social order and get people angry and more likly to want to over throw it. Also, killing sprees would be bad for the economy the cost of the damage to property would be enormous. Also people would flee the country and so would coperations, (it would be to muhc of a liabilty to be based there) Bill Clinton was a player that had bad choice in women. poor sod.

The same applies to you. If you kill everyone, who will grow your food and make bullets for your weapons? Would killing people even make you happy?

The same applies to you. If you kill everyone, who will grow your food and make bullets for your weapons? Would killing people even make you happy?

It dosen't matter if he personally would enjoy it what matters is there are sickos out their that would. With out goverment we revert to a state of anarchy were might makes right. Why because people are bastards.

The same applies to you. If you kill everyone, who will grow your food and make bullets for your weapons? Would killing people even make you happy?
I was being sarcastic about myself doing it. it was more to illustrate the point that someone would.



ALL will fear the Wrath of The Drunken Mob of DOOM! (my sig)

It dosen't matter if he personally would enjoy it what matters is there are sickos out their that would. With out goverment we revert to a state of anarchy were might makes right. Why because people are bastards.
Yep, out there I can assure you there are madmen who would lead a fascist revolution of conquest if there were no government holding such stuff back. And that wouldn't be good.

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Yep, out there I can assure you there are madmen who would lead a fascist revolution of conquest if there were no government holding such stuff back. And that wouldn't be good.

and those madmen currently exist anyways. only now, they fairly regularly take over an already existing government, with all the weaponry, control, and legitimaized ability to use violence that that entails. and if the old phrase "power corrupts" has any relation to how things actually work, then having all these powerful governments around actually creates more of these madmen than there would be otherwise.

No government at all. We don't need government. It is élitist and has a negative effect on moral character.

Having "no government" would have exactly the same effect as Alexander the Great's answer when asked on his deathbed to whom he would leave his empire: "The strongest."

What followed was immediate warfare between those trying to prove themselves to be "the strongest."

and those madmen currently exist anyways. only now, they fairly regularly take over an already existing government, with all the weaponry, control, and legitimaized ability to use violence that that entails. and if the old phrase "power corrupts" has any relation to how things actually work, then having all these powerful governments around actually creates more of these madmen than there would be otherwise.

I fail to follow this line of reasoning. Please elaborate.

Can any anarchist tell me what the hell they are thinking and what the hell good would it do?

I think Anarchist believe that everything can be sorted out using reasoning and sitting around in a table to talk to each other rather than using the fist.

Which unfortunately, not everybody is that 'cultured'. :D

What is the Best type of Government? I think it would be a benevolent dictatorship. We wouldnt have to deal with polititions and the government could act on issues quickly and decisively. The only problem with that people are to easly corrupted by power, thus you would basicly have to have Jesus or Buhda or something ruling it in order to work.

a Jesus or Buddha may not be suited to rule a country.

the other problem is not just about corruption but about succession. how do u institutionalise a dictatorship? what happens after the benevolent dictator is gone?

Representitive Democracy

what is a Father-Knows-Best then, i thought it was a benevolent dictatorship

It is. In real life, I live in a republic.

A minarchist benevolent dictatorship! :eek:

A government that isn't ominpotent and omniscient and doesn't try to omnipresent. Basicly,one that you hardly notice but does it's job.

Direct democracy.

Can any anarchist tell me what the hell they are thinking and what the hell good would it do?
You might be able to find the answer to that in the "Anarchism" thread, or if not, ask, and it would be answered there.

:headbang: :confused: :mp5: :sniper: :gundge:

My thoughts exactly.

The same applies to you. If you kill everyone, who will grow your food and make bullets for your weapons? Would killing people even make you happy?

What you fail to see is that people are too stupid and selfish to not do things that do not help the whole. I for one know that I am not stupid, but would I do things that are not good for the whole? If they helped me.

An experiment that my old physics teacher does every year is play a game where if everyone chooses the same letter then they all win. If one group chooses the other letter, everyone loses but that group wins a little less than if they were to go with everyone else. The key part to this is, the higher the class was (he taught physics and chemistry, physics generally had smarter people in it because it was not required), the more competitive they were. So does education really make people more ideal for an anarchist society? I for one beg to differ. I know that if it were to help me I would fuck people over, if I did not care about them.

And you might say "Why would someone do something if it hurts others and does not help them as much as if they were to go with everyone else?" Basically, why would they get 9 people and make everyone else lose instead of getting 10 points and everyone else getting 10 too. What is the point in getting 10 points if everyone else has 10 too? There is nothing special in that. Humans want to be special, better than the next.

And do not even get me into the lack of security provided by an anarchist society and the need of security by humans...

Representitive Democracy

All in favor say "Aye!"

Aye!

Humans want to be special, better than the next.
You're special...just like everybody else. :D

You're special...just like everybody else. :D

Yes I am! Wait, no I am not! Damn it! I am confused. :(

No government at all. We don't need government. It is élitist and has a negative effect on moral character.

Even the system you talk about has a government, it may be very localized and de-centralized, but there is still a form of government...

Best for of government, in my opinion would be a benevolent dictatorship, like what Mao thought he was running.

Realistically speaking though, a socialist democracy with minimal government interference on personal freedoms, basically one where the government is concerned with helping people instead of controlling and directing them.

What is the Best type of Government? I think it would be a benevolent dictatorship. We wouldnt have to deal with polititions and the government could act on issues quickly and decisively. The only problem with that people are to easly corrupted by power, thus you would basicly have to have Jesus or Buhda or something ruling it in order to work.
yes i think a benevolent dictatorship is the best!
:D

Best for of government, in my opinion would be a benevolent dictatorship, like what Mao thought he was running.
I have to disagree. Even if people make bad decisions, they should still have the right and the ability to do so.

If you're going to have to have a government, then yeh, a benevolent 'enlightened' dictatorship would be best - "for the people, not by the people" and all that. But tbh, government is a flawed idea. If people are told they need governance, they're never gonna do anything properly. The 'best government', therefore, is more a case of "if you're gonna do it, you might as well do it right." Ideally, however, government should move on from protecting the interests of people to protecting the interests of the enviroment. People can take care of themselves. So yeh, government should either be Louis XIV ... or an ecoterrorist organization.

yes i think a benevolent dictatorship is the best!
:D

The problem with this is who is to say the next person will be so benevolent? One can have a good dictator and the next one be a horrible one. Even so, giving absolute power to anyone will most likely corrupt them in some way.

First off, everyone gets a tactical nuclear weapon. Then everyone gets forty acres and a bunker.

Okay, seriously (if that's possible) the best government is one where everyone gets along, there isn't any corruption or persecution, and no one hates or hurts eachother. The question was best - nothing about having to be even remotely realistic.

Best government for any state of over 50 000 people is a representative democracy. Proof: the most comfortable places to live in the world have this form of government.

Proof: the most comfortable places to live in the world have this form of government.
Comfort = best then? :rolleyes:

I agree that benevolent dictatorship is the best form of government. The only problem is that there is no good way to always achieve a benevolent dictatorship.

The best practical form of government is a democratic republic of some sort, as it is efficient, and runs by the rule of the general people.

Benevolent dictatorship is the best government.

But can we get a benevolent dictator? Lol. :D

Collective government. This is often called "anarchy", but anarchy means that there is no government. My ideal form is where everyone governs by general consensus. I think this is democracy in its purist form, but I fully know this doesn't work outside of small communes.

Scandinavian Welfare State + an omniscient but invisible security force. Safety, freedom, and welfare for everyone with no one save xtra large size capitalists unhappy.

Collective government. This is often called "anarchy", but anarchy means that there is no government. My ideal form is where everyone governs by general consensus. I think this is democracy in its purist form, but I fully know this doesn't work outside of small communes.

Should be easily to accomplish with the power of INTERNET(!!!) and all the telecommunications technology we have. Now just to find some software engineers that can write a program that does addition. (Sorry Diebold)

I can't believe no one has thrown out Henry David Thoureau's famous quote (often falsely attributed to Thomas Jefferson):

"The government which governs best, governs least."