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Bush and McKinley: Similar Presidencies

Andaluciae
19-11-2004, 01:34
Bush=McKinley in many ways.

Let's face it, Bush is not equal to Lincoln, or FDR, or Washington. He's a mediocre President, most likely to be forgotten by everybody except a few psycho historians (like me)

Bush was elected on an economic growth through easing taxes and the like platform.

McKinley was elected on an economic growth through easing taxes and the like platform.

Bush led America into a successful (if somewhat poorly managed) war followin an unprecedented attack on American Interests

McKinley led America into a successful (if somewhat poorly managed) war followin an unprecedented attack on American Interests (or so it seemed at the time).

Bush's second war (related to the first one) was initially successful, and fueled by wild public support, but a determined insurgency spoiled the success and the wild public support.

McKinley's second war (related to the first one) was initially successful, and fueled by wild public support, but a determined insurgency spoiled the success and the wild public support.

Bush claims to get inspiration from God.

McKinley claimed to get inspiration from God.

Germany and France dislike Bush's behaviors, whilst Britain supports Bush's behaviors.

Germany disliked McKinley's behaviors (an tried to take the Phillipines), whilst Britain supported McKinley's behaviors.

Both were involved in disputes involving China.

Both were involved in disputes involving Korea.

Both were elected with the aid of industry.


I'd say they're pretty similar.
Liberal Alansyism
19-11-2004, 01:37
You forgot to include on more thing

Both are assholes that effectively bankrupt the country.
Zincite
19-11-2004, 01:38
McKinley was a president? So that's where Denali got its second name.

Apparently he is pretty forgettable. Did the economy go down the drain as soon as McKinley was elected?
Letila
19-11-2004, 01:53
One more thing:

McKinley was assasinated by an anarchist.

Bush will hopefully be assasinated by an anarchist.

Ok, bad attempt at dark humor.
Andaluciae
19-11-2004, 01:58
I'd have to say that there's probably more comparisons, but I don't have enough info on the time to be totally sure. Who knows...
Roach-Busters
19-11-2004, 01:58
Bush=McKinley in many ways.

Let's face it, Bush is not equal to Lincoln, or FDR, or Washington. He's a mediocre President, most likely to be forgotten by everybody except a few psycho historians (like me)

Bush was elected on an economic growth through easing taxes and the like platform.

McKinley was elected on an economic growth through easing taxes and the like platform.

Bush led America into a successful (if somewhat poorly managed) war followin an unprecedented attack on American Interests

McKinley led America into a successful (if somewhat poorly managed) war followin an unprecedented attack on American Interests (or so it seemed at the time).

Bush's second war (related to the first one) was initially successful, and fueled by wild public support, but a determined insurgency spoiled the success and the wild public support.

McKinley's second war (related to the first one) was initially successful, and fueled by wild public support, but a determined insurgency spoiled the success and the wild public support.

Bush claims to get inspiration from God.

McKinley claimed to get inspiration from God.

Germany and France dislike Bush's behaviors, whilst Britain supports Bush's behaviors.

Germany disliked McKinley's behaviors (an tried to take the Phillipines), whilst Britain supported McKinley's behaviors.

Both were involved in disputes involving China.

Both were involved in disputes involving Korea.

Both were elected with the aid of industry.


I'd say they're pretty similar.

Second war? I thought he only got us involved in one war (Spanish-American War). (Don't flame if this is a stupid question, please)
Andaluciae
19-11-2004, 02:03
Second war? I thought he only got us involved in one war (Spanish-American War). (Don't flame if this is a stupid question, please)
Don't worry, the second war is often easily forgotten, even though it lasted a whole lot longer, and killed more americans than the Spanish-American War. The Phillipine Insurrection was a result of our seizing the Phillipines as a colony after the Spanish American war.
Random Explosions
19-11-2004, 02:16
Don't worry, the second war is often easily forgotten, even though it lasted a whole lot longer, and killed more americans than the Spanish-American War. The Phillipine Insurrection was a result of our seizing the Phillipines as a colony after the Spanish American war.
Although it's only a factor, not even an indirect connection, don't forget that the stupidity of the leaders of the American invasion force didn't impress the visiting Germans as much of a force to be reckoned with.
Andaluciae
19-11-2004, 02:18
I'm not saying that Bush is McKinley. I'm basically saying all these people who go off and compare Bush to Lincoln (if positive portrayal) or Harding (if negative portrayal) are taking it too much to the extremes.
DeaconDave
19-11-2004, 03:05
Don't worry, the second war is often easily forgotten, even though it lasted a whole lot longer, and killed more americans than the Spanish-American War. The Phillipine Insurrection was a result of our seizing the Phillipines as a colony after the Spanish American war.


I thought that that was part of the spanish american war. You know, "You may fire when ready Gridley."

Or was the seizure considered a seperate action ?
Ninurta
19-11-2004, 03:14
I thought that that was part of the spanish american war. You know, "You may fire when ready Gridley."

Or was the seizure considered a seperate action ?

Spain ceded the Philippines to the United States. The entire war in the Philippines was against Filipinos. So it was a seperate action, yes.
DeaconDave
19-11-2004, 03:17
Spain ceded the Philippines to the United States. The entire war in the Philippines was against Filipinos. So it was a seperate action, yes.

Ok. Thanks.
Saipea
19-11-2004, 04:02
One more thing:

McKinley was assasinated by an anarchist.

Bush will hopefully be assasinated by an anarchist.

Ok, bad attempt at dark humor.

Letila, do you know how much I've been praying for the 20 year curse to come (one last time)?!
I don't even believe in God, and one of the reasons why is because Bush isn't dead yet.
Andaluciae
19-11-2004, 04:05
Letila, do you know how much I've been praying for the 20 year curse to come (one last time)?!
I don't even believe in God, and one of the reasons why is because Bush isn't dead yet.
Think about this: If Bush is knocked out of the Presidency somehow you get...President Cheney. Would you prefer that? Somehow I don't think so.

And anyways, it's morally wrong to wish for harm unto any human being.
Free Soviets
19-11-2004, 06:25
McKinley was assasinated by an anarchist.

though at least some in the anarchist movement suspected czolgosz of not being on the up and up - or at least not quite right in the head. there was actually an article calling him a spy in 'free society' some time before the assassination. there is some speculation that he may have done it to prove he was legit. which is at least as good an excuse as trying to impress jodie foster