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My newest speech

Liberal Alansyism
19-11-2004, 01:33
I'm presenting it tommorow(friday)


I’ve been told I’m not sympathetic to “psychological disorders.” Maybe a parable can explain what sort of person I am. And what sort of people deserve my sympathy. As I’ve said “mercy to those who deserve it.”

I had a good friend who now lives in Louisiana, we still keep in touch. At this

time his mother was unemployed and they still had to pay for his brother’s

medical expenses, which amounted to quite a lot. One day he called me, and

my heart turned upside down, when he told me he hadn’t eaten for two days.

So my father and I drove down and delivered a box of spaghetti and some

sauce. Another time, I saw a few kids poking fun at a mentally handicapped

boy. I screamed every profanity I could think of. And I’m proud of the action I

took, I believe it was the right thing to do.

I find it insulting that Goths, and “depressed people” make their lives

into being a horrible painful experience. Try being poor, or having a handicap,

and maybe your life won’t seem so miserable. Like I’ve always said “You don’t

see any poor Goths.” Why are they so unhappy with their predicament? Most

of the time they use their non-existent problems to manipulate others.

It’s always strange that people make all sorts of “attempted suicides” or the

plead to the court to pardon their crime because “they’re insane.” Firstly,

what kind of idiot can’t slit their own wrist? Maybe they aren’t trying to kill

themselves, possibly their arrogant human beings who want to feel “valuable.”

In reality anyone who pulls a stunt like that is as useless as a pile of horse

manure on your front porch. They also seem to have a pathological need for

attention, but aren’t talented enough to receive it. If you don’t aknowledge a

“cry for attention” in the first place eventually whoever you’re ignoring will

quiet down.

They’re plenty of people I know who’ve come from horrible situations and

are productive citizens. One of them has the best sense of humor I’ve seen in

ages. But the Goths who live in beautiful houses driving around in pristine mini

vans have it so bad. Bu hu-bu-hu. Your life is what you make of it, for the

most part people create their own stress. Firstly they wouldn’t have stress if

they did something that was somewhat productive. And they need to stop

disrupting everyone’s lives, just because they might kill themselves. They’re

few people who go to that extreme, anyone that outright says “I’m going to

kill myself” is not planning to do so. If he really wanted to die, he would have

done it quickly and without hesitation.

I don't get it. It's like those people who go around with those t-shirts and

stickers that say "you laugh at me because I'm different, but I laugh at you

because you're all the same." How different are you if you're wearing a

mass-produced t-shirt with a registered trade mark sold through one of the

largest clothing franchises in the world? You're the reason Old Navy keeps

making stupid commercials, and you're the reason McDonalds gets away with

selling so much unhealthy, greasy food every day. If you obsess about

uniqueness, and try to be “unique” you’re not. In reality Goths are just

conforming to there own sick ways, they aren’t really the “individuals” they

make out to be.
Goths are incredibly annoying, but their sympathizers will drive you insane.

People say to me all the time “You should feel sorry for them.” Why? Most of

them live in middle to upper middle class families with both parents. And both

their parents have real nice marriage. They’re spoiled, and that’s why they

become “Goths.” One particular sub culture called vampires are incredibly

disturbing. They drink each others blood, and fantasize about going to Hell.

For a group of people so obsessed with dying their sure are a lot of them. It

would seem like if they practiced what they preached they’d all have killed

themselves by now. Or is it, they’re just a bunch of frightened little children,

who need to find real lives, and a job. If Goths want to go to Hell so badly,

the government should allow them, maybe even assist them.
Once someone came up to me and said “You’re a jerk, your against

people dying their hair.” I said “What?” She said “yeah so and so told me you

hate people who dye their hair.” No, your friends an idiot, who needs to listen

to exactly what I say before he opens up his mouth. It’s painful to listen to

the conversations around the school. The content of the conversation is

always “He said, she said, he likes, you like, she likes.” With Goths it’s “I’m

depressed do you guys want to get drunk and make out with dead animals?” I

will discuss the Idiot Wind in later weeks.
Before you tell me I’m heartless and cruel think about the people your

telling me to be sympathetic towards. Cowards, hypocrites, and attention

grabbing losers that should have been slapped up-side the head when they

were younger.
Liberal Alansyism
19-11-2004, 01:42
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Letila
19-11-2004, 01:44
I've noticed that you don't seem to like Goths much. You pick on them frequently.
CSW
19-11-2004, 01:46
Hmm. First, leave off the truely depressed people, though I agree with you, most 'goths' are just people attempting to fit in by rebelling...which I find to be counterproductive and pointless, in the end, though there are a rare few exceptions who get slapped with that label.
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 01:48
thats a excellent speech--a goth can be prolly be described as anyone whose shallow
Andaluciae
19-11-2004, 02:00
I'm agreeing with MKULTRA for the second time today...oh my...and with a variant of Alansyism...this is stunning...
New Granada
19-11-2004, 02:04
I've noticed that you don't seem to like Goths much. You pick on them frequently.


Well, goths are... scum... you know.
Hammolopolis
19-11-2004, 02:05
Hmm. First, leave off the truely depressed people, though I agree with you, most 'goths' are just people attempting to fit in by rebelling...which I find to be counterproductive and pointless, in the end, though there are a rare few exceptions who get slapped with that label.

Goths? They're teenagers, you have to remeber this. There are a lot worse things people do to fit in than act sad, dress in black, and listen to Manson. Leave them alone. Some might be self righteous assholes, but they're teenagers. Most teenagers are self righteous assholes.
CSW
19-11-2004, 02:06
Goths? They're teenagers, you have to remeber this. There are a lot worse things people do to fit in than act sad, dress in black, and listen to Manson. Leave them alone. Some might be self righteous assholes, but they're teenagers. Most teenagers are self righteous assholes.
Acting like trying to kill themselves is a good thing isn't the right thing to encourage.
Armed Bookworms
19-11-2004, 02:09
thats a excellent speech--a goth can be prolly be described as anyone whose shallow
Sooo, most Democrats are goths? Cool. /jk
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 02:12
I'm agreeing with MKULTRA for the second time today...oh my...and with a variant of Alansyism...this is stunning...
are you conservative?
New Granada
19-11-2004, 02:13
Goths? They're teenagers, you have to remeber this. There are a lot worse things people do to fit in than act sad, dress in black, and listen to Manson. Leave them alone. Some might be self righteous assholes, but they're teenagers. Most teenagers are self righteous assholes.


Appologies sir, but you confuse "asshole" with "pissant."

Just clarifying the ole' ingles.
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 02:13
Sooo, most Democrats are goths? Cool. /jk
dems represent people power--reps represent the parasite class
Right-Wing America
19-11-2004, 02:14
Goths are people who are wasting their life doing nothing rather then making something of themselves...its a pity that some people are so stupid.
Armed Bookworms
19-11-2004, 02:19
dems represent people power--reps represent the parasite class
How much crack are you on? Which group supports UHC and unlimited welfare? It ain't the republicans.
New Granada
19-11-2004, 02:20
How much crack are you on? Which group supports UHC and unlimited welfare? It ain't the republicans.



You profoundly misunderstand which group in the world is the parasite and which is the host.
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 02:21
How much crack are you on? Which group supports UHC and unlimited welfare? It ain't the republicans.
whats UHC? and reps support unlimited welfare for billionaires
Andaluciae
19-11-2004, 02:21
are you conservative?
Economically I'm a conservative, with liberties and stuff I'm a liberal.

In other words, I'm a loon.
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 02:25
Economically I'm a conservative, with liberties and stuff I'm a liberal.

In other words, I'm a loon.
no thats good
CSW
19-11-2004, 02:26
whats UHC? and reps support unlimited welfare for billionaires
Universal Health Care.
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 02:30
Universal Health Care.
Universal health care is the only way to combat corporate communism in our health care system
Armed Bookworms
19-11-2004, 02:31
You profoundly misunderstand which group in the world is the parasite and which is the host.
You see all those red states? Most of that's farm and cattle country. What happens if they stop supplying the parasite(liberal cities) with food? That's right, they're fucked. JFrancoisK and George Soros are as much parasites as any rich republicans.
Calm Minds
19-11-2004, 02:39
You see all those red states? Most of that's farm and cattle country. What happens if they stop supplying the parasite(liberal cities) with food? That's right, they're fucked. JFrancoisK and George Soros are as much parasites as any rich republicans.

and what happens when those parasite liberal cities when they stop sending there money?
thats right there fucked too, for every action there is a opposit but equal reaction.
DeaconDave
19-11-2004, 02:41
Universal health care is the only way to combat corporate communism in our health care system

Brilliant. I love that, I am going to write it down.
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 02:41
You see all those red states? Most of that's farm and cattle country. What happens if they stop supplying the parasite(liberal cities) with food? That's right, they're fucked. JFrancoisK and George Soros are as much parasites as any rich republicans.
George Soros is the only billionaire who has a soul
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 02:44
Brilliant. I love that, I am going to write it down.
vox populi vox Dei
Andaluciae
19-11-2004, 02:46
Universal health care is the only way to combat corporate communism in our health care system
I'm busily being confused by this statement. So, we substitute corporate communism (maybe a better second word could be included there) with state communism?
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 02:51
I'm busily being confused by this statement. So, we substitute corporate communism (maybe a better second word could be included there) with state communism?
yes because then we can remove the elitist aspects from it and its better to get screwed by one master then two
Hammolopolis
19-11-2004, 03:00
Acting like trying to kill themselves is a good thing isn't the right thing to encourage.
They want attention, there are alot of things people do for attention that shouldn't be encouraged. I never said goth culture should be encouraged. I just said leave them alone. First off, by doing otherwise you validate the idea that they are just misunderstood by the world and life is bleak. They don't need help in that department. I mean *gasp* teenagers are conforming to the standards of one group in order to express a group identity and feel accepted by peers in said group. Call the police!

BTW I think you're confusing goth's with other cliques. Goths are just the people who where black clothes, wear white face makeup, and listen to Manson and simliar goth artists. They write crappy poetry and make websites with black backgrounds and crappy pictures. The whole "vampire subculture" is extremely small to begin with, and its only a handful of people who actually drink eachother's blood. Thats usually saved for a seperate hardcore fetish scene. The whole suicide thing is a relatively common teenage loner depressed person cry for attention. If they were going to kill themselves, they wouldn't annouce it. In their eyes there are no other options, so looking for help would be in vain.
Liberal Alansyism
19-11-2004, 03:01
Goths are people who are wasting their life doing nothing rather then making something of themselves...its a pity that some people are so stupid.

Where are all the Goths? Everyone agrees with me! What? Something wrong is going on here.... very wrong indeed. When everyone agrees with me, something is definetly up.

I guess everyone's sick of these uselesss piles of shit. Who just fuck dead animals and threaten to kill themselves.
Hammolopolis
19-11-2004, 03:01
Appologies sir, but you confuse "asshole" with "pissant."

Just clarifying the ole' ingles.

lol fair enough, either way I think my point is valid.
Liberal Alansyism
19-11-2004, 03:02
I'm busily being confused by this statement. So, we substitute corporate communism (maybe a better second word could be included there) with state communism?


The political spectrum is like a loop. Once you become ultra-capitalist, you aren't very different from a communist.
Andaluciae
19-11-2004, 03:03
Where are all the Goths? Everyone agrees with me! What? Something wrong is going on here.... very wrong indeed. When everyone agrees with me, something is definetly up.

I guess everyone's sick of these uselesss piles of shit. Who just fuck dead animals and threaten to kill themselves.
I think you've got it man.
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 03:03
Where are all the Goths? Everyone agrees with me! What? Something wrong is going on here.... very wrong indeed. When everyone agrees with me, something is definetly up.

I guess everyone's sick of these uselesss piles of shit. Who just fuck dead animals and threaten to kill themselves.
LOL
Liberal Alansyism
19-11-2004, 03:04
Acting like trying to kill themselves is a good thing isn't the right thing to encourage.

If they want to go to Hell so badly we should help them.

Plus it's better for the gene pool.
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 03:10
If they want to go to Hell so badly we should help them.

Plus it's better for the gene pool.
I also agree with your political loop of ultra capitalists becoming communists. Once a greedy capitalist pig acquires a certain amount of wealth they think they should be granted special rights and protections just like the commies in the Kremlin got
Haloman
19-11-2004, 03:18
The one question I ask every goth:

Why?

I have several goths in my upper middle class neighboorhoods. They dress in black, do all the white make up and shit, listen to slipknot and manson, yadda yadda yadda. The thing that really bugs me is that they don't look at what they have...a $300,000 roof over their head, food when they want it, they have the good life, and still act like their lives are worthless. Their parents let them run wild, and in that way they control their parents. THey weren't smacked enough as kids.
CSW
19-11-2004, 03:29
The one question I ask every goth:

Why?

I have several goths in my upper middle class neighboorhoods. They dress in black, do all the white make up and shit, listen to slipknot and manson, yadda yadda yadda. The thing that really bugs me is that they don't look at what they have...a $300,000 roof over their head, food when they want it, they have the good life, and still act like their lives are worthless. Their parents let them run wild, and in that way they control their parents. THey weren't smacked enough as kids.

The most common answer:
"To piss off my parents."

No thanks, I'd rather not bite the hand that feeds me.
Liberal Alansyism
19-11-2004, 03:41
The most common answer:
"To piss off my parents."

No thanks, I'd rather not bite the hand that feeds me.


Now do you agree that Goths should kill themselves?
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 03:48
if you have a certain amount of wealth everything loses its values--its almost not fun to buy things anymore and you have to buy more and more because the newness of things wears off faster and all you feel the most of all is the void in betwee n
Liberal Alansyism
19-11-2004, 03:52
if you have a certain amount of wealth everything loses its values--its almost not fun to buy things anymore and you have to buy more and more because the newness of things wears off faster and all you feel the most of all is the void in betwee n

ummm... I'd love to have enough money to buy stuff. If their money isn't making them happy they should give it to me. Or kill themselves, preferably both.
MKULTRA
19-11-2004, 04:01
ummm... I'd love to have enough money to buy stuff. If their money isn't making them happy they should give it to me. Or kill themselves, preferably both.
buying stuff gets old--they need to become more then just some entity-but becoming a piece of shit and acten depressed is boring and isnt the way out of the void
Katganistan
19-11-2004, 04:22
Liberal Alansyism -- warned for trolling.