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If you could have a chance to spend a whole day with someone that you have idolized your entire life(be they dead or alive).....Who would it be and why?

Personally I would want to spend a day talking with Fredrich Nietzsche. I have read most of his books and would want to find out more about what he thinks of our society.

P.S: Please no perverted posts about how you want to spend a day with brittany spears for the obvious reasons... or any other type of posts such as that.

Edit: for those of you who dont know who Nietzsche is here is a short summary of his thoughts http://www.pitt.edu/~wbcurry/nietzsche.html

Hermann Hesse probably.

I'm a great fan of nietzche's anti-christianity but he was syphillitic afterall and the bulk of his genius is probably contained in his writings.

Maybe Fidel Castro.

Or churchill.

Jesus Christ. Hes the son of god for christs sake!

Hermann Hesse probably.

I'm a great fan of nietzche's anti-christianity but he was syphillitic afterall and the bulk of his genius is probably contained in his writings.

Maybe Fidel Castro.

Or churchill.

Hesse...I have yet to read any of his liturature though I heard that some of his novels were very good, do you have any favorites?

Hesse...I have yet to read any of his liturature though I heard that some of his novels were very good, do you have any favorites?

All of them :P

Siddhartha, Steppenwolf, and Narcissus and Goldmund are must-reads.

Is god an acceptible answer? ;)

I'd appreciate a long day of fishing or watching hockey with Lester B Pearson.

Is god an acceptible answer? ;)

hmmm.....sure why not :)

Ah, God, a day with my idol...who is my idol anyways...I have no idea.

Certainly not any living politicians, I can give you that.

I really don't have an idol. How amusing of me...

I'd like to spend a day with Oscar Wilde, because I think he's a bloody genius. :)

All of them :P

Siddhartha, Steppenwolf, and Narcissus and Goldmund are must-reads.

Didn't he write the Glass Bead Game also?

Siddartha is a very good book.

I don't know who I'd like to spend a day with. Maybe Thomas Jefferson or Churchill. Then again I've always wanted to meet Jackson Pollack so I can't choose.

I'd like to spend a day with Oscar Wilde, because I think he's a bloody genius. :)

No insult intended, but a genius who was gay wouldn't file a slander suit over being accused of being gay which Wilde did. He was a brilliant writer, but far from a genius.

Excluding Jesus Christ, God, Moses, Noah, Daniel, David, Solomon and similar figures, I'd have to say Isaac Asimov.

Carlos N Hatchcock III
Only the Greatest sniper of all time. I would learn from all of his experiences from Vietnam, and try to improve my skills with a rifle to the point that he was at. I am a pretty good shot with a rifle, but nothing compared to his skill.

to spend a whole day with adam lazarra would be a dream come true. The most talented musician alive could teach me many lessons in life.

We would spend our day shopping for girls pants at the local Amderican Eagle or what not.

Nobody famous or special. I'd spend the day with my dad and show him my life and the man I have become.

He died when I was 16.

I'd like to spend a day with Beethoven on a day when he was inspired.

Douglas Adams. Definitly.

Nobody famous or special. I'd spend the day with my dad and show him my life and the man I have become.

He died when I was 16.

Aww, that's so sad!!

I can't say I have an idol. Nobody is so great. I guess I'd rather be an idol than have one. There's this old quote, I think it goes something like "Idols are for people who have no dreams of their own so they chase after someone else's." I don't agree with that all the way, but I guess that's how I am - too busy shining to let someone else shine on me.

I would have to break this up, I cant choose just one.
Jesus, I will see soon enough, so who else?
Alexander the Great, I mean he was all the way around a bad mother f^cker.
Ghengis Khan(I have always dug him).
Edgar Allen Poe(He is pretty much my favorite writter).
....I had a longer list but I will leave it at these three.

I have minor idols (Neil Peart of Rush comes to mind....) but I'd like to spend a day with Motzart. That would be interesting!

I'm torn between Wilde and Pratchett :D

Well as a ballet dancer I would love to spend the day with Anna Pavlova. I too would also spend a day with my father, since I've never met him, or well...even seen what he looks like. And I would like more time with my grandfather, who died about 7 years ago. So yea....

Nobody famous or special. I'd spend the day with my dad and show him my life and the man I have become.

He died when I was 16.

Without a doubt the best answer of all.

Without a doubt the best answer of all.


dido....pretty sad though :(

dido....pretty sad though :(

Yes ... and it's not something you really get over. Come to terms with, yes, but not really get over. Little things still get to me from time to time, especially when I look in the mirror and see his face staring back at me or look at the keyboard and see his hands typing. Milestones, like my wedding or my first child being born or my service in the Army (he would have been proud, he was an Army pilot in Vietnam), tend to be a bit rough around the edges.

Mostly it's why I try my best to stay healthy for my kids. Lung cancer took him out at 43 years old (4 pack a day habit).

Tyler Durden... I bet thats gonna be one hell of a day :D

Without a doubt the best answer of all.

Based on what??

Lao Tzu - Founder of Taoism
Zhuang Tzu - Additional Taoist "prophet"
Buddha - Hindu prince who went on a nirvana seeking mission
Jesus Christ - The original socialist
Martin Luther King Jr - Leader of the peaceful negro revolution
Mahatma Ghandi - Leader of the peaceful Indian revolt against Britian
Ho Chi Minh - Unifier of North and South Vietnam and possibly the only sane communist leader
John Lennon - Member of the Beatles, peace activist

Those are my idols. I can't choose out of them

Based on what??
Your an idiot.

Possibly the worlds greatest swordsman, Miyamoto Musashi, who also is an important figure in Buddhist literature and art.

Spirit, culture and razor sharp blades all mixed into one. Just to train with the man would be an honour.

Without a doubt the best answer of all.

indeed.

as for me, I think (wasn't an easy decision) I'd spend a day with Ghandi - intelligent bloke, originator of peaceful & non-violent rebellion (the first Hippie :D ), fought for freedom, and really achieved something important. The kind of person I think we can all learn from (also overlooked as a Hero IMO).

indeed.

as for me, I think (wasn't an easy decision) I'd spend a day with Ghandi - intelligent bloke, originator of peaceful & non-violent rebellion (the first Hippie :D ), fought for freedom, and really achieved something important. The kind of person I think we can all learn from (also overlooked as a Hero IMO).

Looking at india today i think that it was better off being ruled by the British

Looking at india today i think that it was better off being ruled by the British


Like how iraq is so sooo much better now that it is ruled by the americans ::rolleyes::

I'd have to say...

Carlos Sainz, as officially the worlds best WRC driver. He's won 26 rallies, as opposed to McRae's 25.

Ayrton Senna, a true legend of racing.

Enzo Ferrari/Ferrucio Lamborghini, preferably meet them at the same time, that could be fun.

Lao Tzu - Founder of Taoism
Zhuang Tzu - Additional Taoist "prophet"
Buddha - Hindu prince who went on a nirvana seeking mission
Jesus Christ - The original socialist
Martin Luther King Jr - Leader of the peaceful negro revolution
Mahatma Ghandi - Leader of the peaceful Indian revolt against Britian
Ho Chi Minh - Unifier of North and South Vietnam and possibly the only sane communist leader
John Lennon - Member of the Beatles, peace activist

Those are my idols. I can't choose out of them

Jesus Christ was no socialist. Doesn't the Bible specifically say, "thou shalt not steal?" That's what socialism is. Taking money from someone who earned it (against their will), and giving it to someone who didn't.

I am appalled and disgusted that you said Ho Chi Minh. That man was one hell of a sick dude. In the late 1940s he used to bury political rivals alive so that only their heads were above ground, and then have harrows driven across the field, tearing their heads apart. In the 1950s, he launched a 'land reform' campaign that called for the extermination of 5% of the population of each village. Tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands were killed. The Viet Cong- which were controlled by Hanoi- committed the most barbarous crimes in history. They jammed wooden chopsticks into childrens' ears so that their eardrums burst, just for listening to a teacher talk about religion. They then pulled out the teacher's tongue with a crude pair of pliers and cut it out. They decapitated, disemboweled, and impaled people frequently. They beat three year old girls beyond recognition with rifle butts. They broke each of a person's fingers and toes and ripped out all their nails, one at a time. They castrated old men and stuffed their genitals in their mouths. They slashed open pregnant women's wombs, impaled little boys' heads with bamboo sticks, booby-trapped dead bodies so that when their families came to retrieve them they were blown to smithereens, gang-raped girls and forced the rest of the village to do the same, burned people to death with flamethrowers, buried people alive, beat them to death, etc. And that's just for starters. All with the explicit approval of Hanoi. If Ho Chi Minh was so great, why is that, in 1954, when the country was partitioned along the 17th parallel, over 1,000,000 refugees fled south? As for 'reunifying' the country, if that was such a great thing, why is that, in 1975, the further the communists moved south, the more flooded with refugees Saigon became? Scores of thousands of people tried desperately to board helicopters to get out before the communists took over. Since then, hundreds of thousands- maybe millions- have risked their lives crossing the ocean on flimsy boats to escape the terror. Ho Chi Minh and his thugs killed millions of people, possibly more than three million.

Martin Luther King Jr - Leader of the peaceful negro revolution

The 'peaceful' Negro revolution that produced hundreds of violent race riots and resulted in innumerable deaths (both black and white)?

I would spend the day with Stevie Nicks. She and I would probably be talking about her life/writing/songs, etc. I might even rope her into singing a duet with me. ;)

I don't really have an "idol," per se, but I do have heroes...which I will refrain from naming because I don't fancy the idea of being flamed.

Jesus Christ was no socialist. Doesn't the Bible specifically say, "thou shalt not steal?" That's what socialism is. Taking money from someone who earned it (against their will), and giving it to someone who didn't.

I am appalled and disgusted that you said Ho Chi Minh. That man was one hell of a sick dude. In the late 1940s he used to bury political rivals alive so that only their heads were above ground, and then have harrows driven across the field, tearing their heads apart. In the 1950s, he launched a 'land reform' campaign that called for the extermination of 5% of the population of each village. Tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands were killed. The Viet Cong- which were controlled by Hanoi- committed the most barbarous crimes in history. They jammed wooden chopsticks into childrens' ears so that their eardrums burst, just for listening to a teacher talk about religion. They then pulled out the teacher's tongue with a crude pair of pliers and cut it out. They decapitated, disemboweled, and impaled people frequently. They beat three year old girls beyond recognition with rifle butts. They broke each of a person's fingers and toes and ripped out all their nails, one at a time. They castrated old men and stuffed their genitals in their mouths. They slashed open pregnant women's wombs, impaled little boys' heads with bamboo sticks, booby-trapped dead bodies so that when their families came to retrieve them they were blown to smithereens, gang-raped girls and forced the rest of the village to do the same, burned people to death with flamethrowers, buried people alive, beat them to death, etc. And that's just for starters. All with the explicit approval of Hanoi. If Ho Chi Minh was so great, why is that, in 1954, when the country was partitioned along the 17th parallel, over 1,000,000 refugees fled south? As for 'reunifying' the country, if that was such a great thing, why is that, in 1975, the further the communists moved south, the more flooded with refugees Saigon became? Scores of thousands of people tried desperately to board helicopters to get out before the communists took over. Since then, hundreds of thousands- maybe millions- have risked their lives crossing the ocean on flimsy boats to escape the terror. Ho Chi Minh and his thugs killed millions of people, possibly more than three million.

Another thing to consider: in North Vietnam, POWs (not just American ones) suffered the most horrific and atrocious torture imaginable, usually on a day-to-day basis. After Ho Chi Minh died, the severity and frequency of torture decreased dramatically.

IF we could make someone up I know whod I spend my day with. But if you cant I'll say Tesla. That guy was one genious to be reckoned with. He knew how to create ball lightning for crap's sake!

I don't really have an "idol," per se, but I do have heroes...which I will refrain from naming because I don't fancy the idea of being flamed.

you idolize Hitler too eh? ;)

you idolize Hitler too eh? ;)

Eew, hell no! :mad: I hate that son of a b**** even more than I hate Ho Chi Minh.

Eew, hell no! :mad: I hate that son of a b**** even more than I hate Ho Chi Minh.

Please dont deny it. Its very immature you know :rolleyes:

I would spend the day with any of the following:

Audie Murphy-hear his war stories, maybe go hunt some rabbits
Jesus Christ-Learn from his wisdom, find the meaning of life
Stonewall Jackson-Discuss strategy and hear his stories
Clara Bow-The original "IT" girl, love to party with her for the day
Lee Harvey Oswald-Spend the day with him just to see if he did it

I would like to spend a day jamming with Yngwie J. Malmsteen, the man who got me to play guitar.

That man is just... god-like.

Yeah..

Please dont deny it. Its very immature you know :rolleyes:
Boer South Africa: Knock it off.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

Boer South Africa: Knock it off.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation


sorry sorry wont happen again...now lets kiss and make up :fluffle: lol....

Plato.... Sigh... He's dreamy


In a heterosexual way of course

Plato.... Sigh... He's dreamy


In a heterosexual way of course

You kidding? Plato loved the manlove :p. Very little hetrosexual about him

Can't believe I forgot this - James Longstreet.

I would like to spend a day jamming with Yngwie J. Malmsteen, the man who got me to play guitar.

That man is just... god-like.

Yeah..

Yngwie?
As much as he is a brilliant guitar player, he is naught compared to the gods - Steve Vai and, the master, Joe Satriani! Watch the G3 DVD with the three of them and you'll see...

Actually can I change my choice from Ghandi to Satriani? ;)

Can't believe I forgot this - James Longstreet.

C'mon, Longstreet was the most boring of the confederate generals. I would greatly prefer Jackson, Lee, Hood, Ewell or most of all Pickett.

I am appalled and disgusted that you said Ho Chi Minh. That man was one hell of a sick dude. In the late 1940s he used to bury political rivals alive so that only their heads were above ground, and then have harrows driven across the field, tearing their heads apart. In the 1950s, he launched a 'land reform' campaign that called for the extermination of 5% of the population of each village. Tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands were killed. The Viet Cong- which were controlled by Hanoi- committed the most barbarous crimes in history. They jammed wooden chopsticks into childrens' ears so that their eardrums burst, just for listening to a teacher talk about religion. They then pulled out the teacher's tongue with a crude pair of pliers and cut it out. They decapitated, disemboweled, and impaled people frequently. They beat three year old girls beyond recognition with rifle butts. They broke each of a person's fingers and toes and ripped out all their nails, one at a time. They castrated old men and stuffed their genitals in their mouths. They slashed open pregnant women's wombs, impaled little boys' heads with bamboo sticks, booby-trapped dead bodies so that when their families came to retrieve them they were blown to smithereens, gang-raped girls and forced the rest of the village to do the same, burned people to death with flamethrowers, buried people alive, beat them to death, etc. And that's just for starters. All with the explicit approval of Hanoi. If Ho Chi Minh was so great, why is that, in 1954, when the country was partitioned along the 17th parallel, over 1,000,000 refugees fled south? As for 'reunifying' the country, if that was such a great thing, why is that, in 1975, the further the communists moved south, the more flooded with refugees Saigon became? Scores of thousands of people tried desperately to board helicopters to get out before the communists took over. Since then, hundreds of thousands- maybe millions- have risked their lives crossing the ocean on flimsy boats to escape the terror. Ho Chi Minh and his thugs killed millions of people, possibly more than three million.

Yeah, Ho Chi Minh was an evil sonovabitch, but I'm still not sure what that has to do with forcing young Americans to fight overseas for.

Jesus Christ was no socialist. Doesn't the Bible specifically say, "thou shalt not steal?" That's what socialism is. Taking money from someone who earned it (against their will), and giving it to someone who didn't.

I am appalled and disgusted that you said Ho Chi Minh. That man was one hell of a sick dude. In the late 1940s he used to bury political rivals alive so that only their heads were above ground, and then have harrows driven across the field, tearing their heads apart. In the 1950s, he launched a 'land reform' campaign that called for the extermination of 5% of the population of each village. Tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands were killed. The Viet Cong- which were controlled by Hanoi- committed the most barbarous crimes in history. They jammed wooden chopsticks into childrens' ears so that their eardrums burst, just for listening to a teacher talk about religion. They then pulled out the teacher's tongue with a crude pair of pliers and cut it out. They decapitated, disemboweled, and impaled people frequently. They beat three year old girls beyond recognition with rifle butts. They broke each of a person's fingers and toes and ripped out all their nails, one at a time. They castrated old men and stuffed their genitals in their mouths. They slashed open pregnant women's wombs, impaled little boys' heads with bamboo sticks, booby-trapped dead bodies so that when their families came to retrieve them they were blown to smithereens, gang-raped girls and forced the rest of the village to do the same, burned people to death with flamethrowers, buried people alive, beat them to death, etc. And that's just for starters. All with the explicit approval of Hanoi. If Ho Chi Minh was so great, why is that, in 1954, when the country was partitioned along the 17th parallel, over 1,000,000 refugees fled south? As for 'reunifying' the country, if that was such a great thing, why is that, in 1975, the further the communists moved south, the more flooded with refugees Saigon became? Scores of thousands of people tried desperately to board helicopters to get out before the communists took over. Since then, hundreds of thousands- maybe millions- have risked their lives crossing the ocean on flimsy boats to escape the terror. Ho Chi Minh and his thugs killed millions of people, possibly more than three million.

Man, you can't state who you would want to spend your day with without being attacked.

Man, you can't state who you would want to spend your day with without being attacked.

so cry about it, I'm sure the millions of people your hero bruatally murdered will understand the sadness you're feeling right now.... 'being attacked' What the fuck are you whinning about? Don't like it when someone cuts through the bullshit and tells you the truth about what your 'land reformer' really did? -- I'll tell you what, go find a highly populated area of Vietnamese and tell them abuot your 'love' of HCM and see what happens.

so cry about it, I'm sure the millions of people your hero bruatally murdered will understand the sadness you're feeling right now.... 'being attacked' What the fuck are you whinning about? Don't like it when someone cuts through the bullshit and tells you the truth about what your 'land reformer' really did? -- I'll tell you what, go find a highly populated area of Vietnamese and tell them abuot your 'love' of HCM and see what happens.

No, seriously dude. I'm not going to bother argue with you. Ok?

You kidding? Plato loved the manlove :p. Very little hetrosexual about him

Me liking him, not him liking me.

Living: Dr. Bill Cosby;

otherwise: Dr. Albert Einstein.

If I could spend a day with Jesus, it would pretty much be worthless...seeing as how I'll get to spend an eternity with him! (hopefully)

I'd like to spend a day with Solomon. He's probably the wisest man who ever lived, at least in my eyes. His three books in the bible, Ecclestiastes, Proverbs, and song of songs, are among the best in the bible. He's an excellent writer and a brilliant thinker.

Has anyone said Leonardo Da Vinci? Or anyone from the Reinassance?

By the way, it would be quite a bummer to select God (or someone like it) as your one chance, seeing as he may or may not exist...

well guess what, God, whatever form it may be, does exist. What are we, just one big giant accident?

well guess what, God, whatever form it may be, does exist. What are we, just one big giant accident?

While agree with you, you're not going to convince anyone. Everyone thinks that there is no god, they are merely an accident, they may do as they please, that they are their own gods.

Basically, they don't like authority in general.

While agree with you, you're not going to convince anyone. Everyone thinks that there is no god, they are merely an accident, they may do as they please, that they are their own gods.

Basically, they don't like authority in general.

I'm not trying to convince anyone. It's just what I feel makes the most sense.

I'm not trying to convince anyone. It's just what I feel makes the most sense.

Yeah, you were trying to argue with him...you can't argue with anyone here, they won't change their beliefs because of something you say.

Yeah, you were trying to argue with him...you can't argue with anyone here, they won't change their beliefs because of something you say.

If I was trying to argue you would know it, that was simply an idle remark. I don't have the patience to start a debate here.

Stalin! My Hero! Not really, probably Einstein.

Idols are blasphemous. After all, God said that there is only one true god- Himself.

Nils Bohr, the developer of the Copenhagen school of quantum mechanics.

Nils Bohr, the developer of the Copenhagen school of quantum mechanics.

An excellent choice, and a name I've mentioned on threads similar to this one. I take my hat off to you, sir.

An excellent choice, and a name I've mentioned on threads similar to this one. I take my hat off to you, sir.
Kewl! Have you read "The Conscious Universe," by Menas Kafatos and Robert Nadeau? If not, I highly recommend you do.

Out of all those on here, you may find my essay at http://ParadigmAssociates.org/ParadigmSpirituality.html most interesting. Don't let the title throw you. It's mostly about Purpose and how the universe helps us decide it. :)

Yeah, you were trying to argue with him...you can't argue with anyone here, they won't change their beliefs because of something you say.

I used to think it was possible to change the thinking of others here by argument, but having read your post, I am now convinced that you are right, and that it is not. :)

revised to be less common:

Living: the SOB that murdered his wife, my high school girlfriend. (No, not my idol, but I would LOVE to have him to myself for a day! :mad: )

Dead: Maria Geopert-Mayer, joint winner of the 1958 Nobel Prize for Physics.

Undead: there's no such thing, silly! :)