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Any good Time Travel resources?

Camel Eaters
19-11-2004, 00:06
I'm doing a paper for a class and I can't really find anything and was wondering if anyone here knows some resource or another that I could use?
Willamena
19-11-2004, 00:15
Don't know if this will help.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/time-travel.htm

What is the subject of your paper?
Camel Eaters
19-11-2004, 00:18
Aw you know some basic temporal mechanics and theory explanation.
The Tribes Of Longton
19-11-2004, 00:51
Aw you know some basic temporal mechanics and theory explanation.
ANd some random big swirly things, gigantic electrodes, huge levers, a rubber chicken, tritium, cheese (only brie will do) and the blood of an atacaman llama dead for 3 weeks under the light of a new moon.

Or not. I was gonna try stealing the dagger of time from the Sultan's palace. Although that damn grand visier worries me...
Katganistan
19-11-2004, 00:55
H.G. Wells' The Time Machine might be a good place to start.
Camel Eaters
19-11-2004, 01:05
Thanks although I don't know where to find a llama.
The Tribes Of Longton
19-11-2004, 01:10
Thanks although I don't know where to find a llama.
The atacaman desert. duh :D
Nation of Fortune
19-11-2004, 01:14
how about you duct tape a duck to a microwave, that works. Or you could short the circuit out on an electric wheelchair.
Iztatepopotla
19-11-2004, 01:14
Unfortunately the only good time-travel resources are in the future. You could try to find a time-traveller (they are the ones who don't understand little things we take for granted) or wait around 300 years.
Communist europa
19-11-2004, 01:15
relativity and the lorentez transformations might be a good thing to look at as well, also, read up on taychons (its not 100% related I know, but it is related to a good degree)
Soviet Narco State
19-11-2004, 01:29
relativity and the lorentez transformations might be a good thing to look at as well, also, read up on taychons (its not 100% related I know, but it is related to a good degree)
no, no, no, you have to spin the earth in the reverse direction to go back in time!
Where did you go to school!
New Granada
19-11-2004, 01:34
Unfortunately the only good time-travel resources are in the future. You could try to find a time-traveller (they are the ones who don't understand little things we take for granted) or wait around 300 years.


If he wants to find a time traveller he need look no further than a man by the name of Warren Buffet.

Who, having discovered a time machine would not go back in time and pick stocks to become the richest man in the world?
Stroudiztan
19-11-2004, 01:47
Watch the Back to the Future trilogy.

In reverse order.

Yesterday.
Willamena
19-11-2004, 04:49
no, no, no, you have to spin the earth in the reverse direction to go back in time!
Where did you go to school!
LOL!!!!

This is the best thread yet.
EmoBuddy
19-11-2004, 04:57
We're all time travelers - it's just that we can only go forward at a slow pace.

Time travel by humans will never happen because if it could, we would be having visitors from the future (duh).
Cogitation
19-11-2004, 05:10
Who, having discovered a time machine would not go back in time and pick stocks to become the richest man in the world?
/me raises his hand.

Time travel for the sake of personal gain is one of the most severe violations of the Temporal Prime Directive.

--The Jovial States of Cogitation
Department of Temporal Investigations
Starfleet Command
Phatt101
19-11-2004, 05:18
Listen here. you can go faster and faster. if something were to go fast enough they would make a quantom leap. meaning going from one point to another instintaniusly. But think here. what if you go faster then that. Then you would go back in time. do ya get what I am saying. it takes time to get to one place. but then then you get there instantly. any faster would have to send you back in time.
SenatorHoser
19-11-2004, 05:18
http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~johnmm/sexualphysics/procreation.htm
MDKCorp
19-11-2004, 05:34
Easy.

1. Find a supernova.
2. Get within a few hundred thousand miles of it.
3. Microwave some stove-top popcorn.
4. When the magnetons combine with the gravitons and graviolis, BAM! Instant wormhole leading back to the time of some major historical event.

**WARNING** make sure you have a backup microwave if you want to come home.
Violets and Kitties
19-11-2004, 05:42
http://www.johntitor.com/ (http://johntitor.com/)

Centered around oned supposed time traveller but has link to other time travel type boards.
The Holy Palatinate
19-11-2004, 05:47
Time travel for the sake of personal gain is one of the most severe violations of the Temporal Prime Directive.

{travels back in time}
{Does some serious lobbying, bribing and currying of favour}
"Time Travel for the sake of personal gain is the sole perogative of The Holy Palatinate"

--The Jovial States of Cogitation
Department of Temporal Investigations
Starfleet Command


.....much better!
Camel Eaters
19-11-2004, 05:47
Listen here. you can go faster and faster. if something were to go fast enough they would make a quantom leap. meaning going from one point to another instintaniusly. But think here. what if you go faster then that. Then you would go back in time. do ya get what I am saying. it takes time to get to one place. but then then you get there instantly. any faster would have to send you back in time.
But you gotta' worry about critical mass. Because when you approach it (the speed of light) everything becomes much heavier and heavy things suck.
The Holy Palatinate
19-11-2004, 05:50
Listen here. you can go faster and faster.
No you can't. energy = mass; the faster you go, the more mass you have, as your kinetic energy is part of your mass. Eventually, nearly all of your mass is kinetic, and you need close to infinite energy to go any faster. If energy is propelling itself and nothing else, then it travels at light speed, because that's what light is; anything else is slowly due toi the extra baggage.
Lux Liber
19-11-2004, 05:52
Time travel by humans will never happen because if it could, we would be having visitors from the future (duh).

Maybe we are and just don't know it. Maybe people from the future are very shy. Either that or they DO have the technology and just don't want to use it. We ARE the cause of any problems they have in the future, you know. They probably just don't like us.
Ambivila
19-11-2004, 05:55
We're all time travelers - it's just that we can only go forward at a slow pace.

Time travel by humans will never happen because if it could, we would be having visitors from the future (duh).

We ARE having visitors from the future, it's just that I don't talk about my travels with just anyone.
The Holy Palatinate
19-11-2004, 05:56
We're all time travelers - it's just that we can only go forward at a slow pace.
True.

Time travel by humans will never happen because if it could, we would be having visitors from the future (duh).
False. Firstly, most theories for time travel don't allow you to go back before the creation of the device, as you move through/around it, so these don't cause a problem.
Whether a true time travel device would create a paradox is unclear (given we've no idea what it would involve) but I doubt it. One of the standard indications of time is the 'entropic arrow' - entropy increases over time. If this is an accurate reflection of what time is, rather than a convenient clock, then no problem - the increase in entropy means that the present you currently percieve will decay when time travel is used, collapsing into a new 'present' with a higher level of entropy; in other words, this present time without time travellers will decay into a present that does have time travellers. But not yet; time is the entropy, no matter what year humans assign to it; the apparent paradox is caused by taking our own worldview too seriously.
Of course, if this is the case, using time travel would be insane, but surely it's worth risking time and space for a chance to spank Cleopatra's behind?
Camel Eaters
19-11-2004, 05:57
Hmm. sex at light speed. I would watch that. But what about masturbation at light speed?
The Holy Palatinate
19-11-2004, 06:01
Maybe we are and just don't know it. Maybe people from the future are very shy. Either that or they DO have the technology and just don't want to use it. We ARE the cause of any problems they have in the future, you know. They probably just don't like us.
They'd also be worried about disease. The current race between diseases and the medical community isn't likely to end anytime soon; so diseases from the future, which the locals will consider mildly annoying, would likely become genocidal pandemics if released here.
Also, going back before the Edwardian era would be revolting for us; open sewage systems, spitting in public, no real hygiene - so possibly future improvements in living standards makes 20th-21st century living standards look like squalor.
Travelling back in time would be regarded similarly to taking a holiday in the Sudan....
Camel Eaters
19-11-2004, 06:02
Of course, if this is the case, using time travel would be insane, but surely it's worth risking time and space for a chance to spank Cleopatra's behind?
Hell yeah it would. And maybe something a little more.
C4n4d4
19-11-2004, 06:12
"The Man Who Folded Himself" by Dan Gerrold. it is considered to be THE book on time travel. it covers everything including what really happens with paradoxes.
The Dark Lord Chaos
19-11-2004, 06:21
and the truth of the matter is that time travel is so filled with time paradoxes and potential parallel realities that if someone ever did figure out how to make it work it would be so complicated that it wouldn't be practical at all for anyone who wanted to keep their sanity. like what if you went back in time and killed your grandfatherwhen he was a young man? you parents would never be born, therefore you would never be born, therefore you couldn't have gone back in time to kill him, in which case he would have procreated and so would your parents and so you could go back in time and kill your grandfather as a young man, so you parents would never be born, therefore you would never be born, therefore you couldn't have gone back in time to kill him, and so on and so forth in an endless loop throughout all of time. try to wrap you head around that one, literally.
Zwitterionia
19-11-2004, 06:24
Hmm. sex at light speed. I would watch that. But what about masturbation at light speed?
What about it? It's a typical weeknight...
Zwitterionia
19-11-2004, 06:32
and the truth of the matter is that time travel is so filled with time paradoxes and potential parallel realities that if someone ever did figure out how to make it work it would be so complicated that it wouldn't be practical at all for anyone who wanted to keep their sanity. like what if you went back in time and killed your grandfatherwhen he was a young man?

The philosophical ramifications of modern physics don't prevent sucha paradox. Within the scope of a multidemsional universe (beyond the 3 or 4 we sense/manipulate), all the possible exist. It's like drawing a cube on a sheet of paper. You have to have an ability to understand objects beyond the existence of that single plane to see the cube. If not, it's just some kind of weird hexagon. In that sense, there are might be coordinates beyond the (x,y,z,time) in which you never existed but to which you might travel if you can willfully move through all the non physically observable dimensions. It's kind of like riding a bus. All the lines are concurrently running, and they all look mostly the same at any given stop or depot. But they all have different yet not completely unique paths that they will travel. Killing you grandfather would simply garner you a transfer. You would still be you. You would still exist. Your old town would still exist. But you would be somewhere else, on a different path, where maybe you hadn't existed before.
Camel Eaters
20-11-2004, 00:07
Dude this really is the best thread ever!

Camel Eaters!!!!!

Zwitterionia rocks!!!!
Bodies Without Organs
20-11-2004, 00:11
We're all time travelers - it's just that we can only go forward at a slow pace.


'Slow' compared to what?
Joey P
20-11-2004, 00:52
Try "Donnie Darko"
Camel Eaters
20-11-2004, 17:34
bwather