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WELLINGTON (Reuters) - A woman in New Zealand says she is breastfeeding her pet puppy because she wants it to protect her baby daughter as they both grow up.
Kura Tumanako told the NZPA news agency that she had started breastfeeding the Staffordshire bull terrier pup after her baby stopped taking her milk.
"I didn't want to waste it so I gave it to Honey Boy," she said.
According to NZPA, Tumanako said she had fed the dog twice a day for the past week but would probably wean it off in about six weeks' time. Her baby, now 2 months old, is on bottled milk.
"I wanted to raise it (the pup) with my baby," she said. "I wanted to bring it up with a baby. It will protect her as they grow up," said Tumanako.
"He drinks more than the baby. It doesn't hurt, but it's a little bit ticklish."

From Oddly Enough - Reuters



WELLINGTON (Reuters) - A woman in New Zealand says she is breastfeeding her pet puppy because she wants it to protect her baby daughter as they both grow up.
Kura Tumanako told the NZPA news agency that she had started breastfeeding the Staffordshire bull terrier pup after her baby stopped taking her milk.
"I didn't want to waste it so I gave it to Honey Boy," she said.
According to NZPA, Tumanako said she had fed the dog twice a day for the past week but would probably wean it off in about six weeks' time. Her baby, now 2 months old, is on bottled milk.
"I wanted to raise it (the pup) with my baby," she said. "I wanted to bring it up with a baby. It will protect her as they grow up," said Tumanako.
"He drinks more than the baby. It doesn't hurt, but it's a little bit ticklish."

Yum yum! :)

That's not healthy for the puppy - different animals produce different milk because their young have different nutritional requirements - you could kill a baby by giving it cow's milk for example.

Sheep, dogs, wonder if there's a pattern :confused:

I live in Wellington, I wonder if I know that person...




Nope.

Yuck!

Call me a narrow-minded old Bastard, but thats just plain disgusting!

I wonder if the dog would grow 6 feet tall?

Yuck!!

Agreed! If that dog's slobber is ANYWHERE near as slimy and stinky as my dog's... eugh!

That's not healthy for the puppy - different animals produce different milk because their young have different nutritional requirements - you could kill a baby by giving it cow's milk for example.

Nope - interspecies nursing is done all the time.
I've seen lioncubs with domestic cats and even puppies to a nursing pig.

Sick

That's not healthy for the puppy - different animals produce different milk because their young have different nutritional requirements - you could kill a baby by giving it cow's milk for example.

I don't believe you could kill it by giving any animal another's milk. The only problem there really would be is that each species' milk is the most efficient for their offspring. Breast milk is the best for human children, but there are substitutes that can be used. I know a few people who were never breast fed.

And on the topic, a little weird, but *shrug*

That's not healthy for the puppy - different animals produce different milk because their young have different nutritional requirements - you could kill a baby by giving it cow's milk for example.
The breast milk of one's own mother is generally considered best for mammals, providing that milk is 'nutritious, adequate in quantity and not-toxic (ie the the milk provides the necessary nutrients and energy per mil, there is enough there to meet the needs of the infant, and the milk contains no toxic components such as alcohol consumed by the mother or a virus that the mother has been exposed to). However if nutitious adequate not-toxic milk cant be provided directly from the young's mother, milk from a lactating mother of the same species is generally the best replacement, however if this is not available, milk from another species can (depending on a variety of factors) prove to be a viable alternative with no long-term harmful effects resulting from the substition (particularily if the infant has had the important 'first feed' from it's mother).
In this case, vets spoken to in connection with the scenario saw no definable problem so far as the puppy was concerned, they did seem to think that the milk of the puppies mother would be better, but so long as the puppy is adequately nourished (which it appears to be) they see no problem; if the puppy was unable to deal with the milk, it would already be apparent. Provided the puppy does not have an adverse reaction to the milk, and is receiving adequate nutrition there appears to be no problem from the puppy's point of view. That being said, I personally would not encourage humans to eat from something that another species has eaten from....my personal advice would be either feed them from seperate breasts if you must nurse directly, or (much) better still, get a pump, express the milk and feed puppy in a bowl that humans dont eat from (although so far as I understand in this case the woman wanted to nurse the puppy direct so it feed with her daughter).

I don't believe you could kill it by giving any animal another's milk. The only problem there really would be is that each species' milk is the most efficient for their offspring. Breast milk is the best for human children, but there are substitutes that can be used. I know a few people who were never breast fed.

And on the topic, a little weird, but *shrug*

agreed

I wonder what animal rights has to say about this

hehe...those crazy aussies

hehe...those crazy aussies
Kiwis aint aussies dude.

I wonder what animal rights has to say about this
They would probably think it was weird, in my opinion if they had good sense they might have qualms about the hygiene element (regarding the daughter's health), however as animal rights professionals (I assume that is who you mean by 'animal rights') they have no cause for concern that I can see, and if I remember correctly an animal rights organisation that was asked for comment indicated that they did not view it as a form of cruelty.

Has the world gone mad ?!

I mean WTF. Haha

No, seriously WTF.

^It's actually if you examine it objectivly, not as weird as it seems. Humans do nurse each others young direct from the breast, and non-human mammals sometimes nurse the young that are not their own, both within their species pool, and even (so I understand) outside their own species pool. So nursing the young of another occurs within human societies, and occurs among other mammals, and nursing cross species is shown to occur among non-human mammals. I believe there is a society (I think in the Pacific/Asia Pacific region) where women regularly nurse piglets. Certainly many human societies have normalised milk feeding from cows and goats and other mammals, although we tend to do so 'by the bottle' rather than 'from the breast'... ;)

Anyway, I do find it weird personally, and I would hope anyone participating in such an acitivity knew enough to ensure that her own health and the health of any other nursing children was protected. As I indicated in my first post, it's not something I'm comfortable with, but that doesnt mean there is something wrong with it, after all I'm uncomfortable eating pumpkin, and that's actually good for you apparently.... :p ;) :D

^It's actually if you examine it objectivly, not as weird as it seems. Humans do nurse each others young direct from the breast, and non-human mammals sometimes nurse the young that are not their own, both within their species pool, and even (so I understand) outside their own species pool. So nursing the young of another occurs within human societies, and occurs among other mammals, and nursing cross species is shown to occur among non-human mammals. I believe there is a society (I think in the Pacific/Asia Pacific region) where women regularly nurse piglets. Certainly many human societies have normalised milk feeding from cows and goats and other mammals, although we tend to do so 'by the bottle' rather than 'from the breast'... ;)

Anyway, I do find it weird personally, and I would hope anyone participating in such an acitivity knew enough to ensure that her own health and the health of any other nursing children was protected. As I indicated in my first post, it's not something I'm comfortable with, but that doesnt mean there is something wrong with it, after all I'm uncomfortable eating pumpkin, and that's actually good for you apparently.... :p ;) :D


No, this is screwed up for both the kid and the dog. And I say that coming from a family that breeds fox terriers. So I'd like to think that I know a bit about dog behavior.

Nope - interspecies nursing is done all the time.
I've seen lioncubs with domestic cats and even puppies to a nursing pig.

It's a matter of not getting the proper immunities from another creature's milk. Young animals haven't developed such things on their own, and rely on mother's milk to provide them early in life. So yeah, doing such a thing poses some risk to a young animal, but it isn't poisoning them or anyhting.

That....was.........interesting.

You're all sick for clicking the link to read this thread! Wait....I was just curious if we should move this thread to desperate housewives.

Of course, it's possible to grow up to be healthy without breastfeeding. The oldest of my three cousins, for example, had an allergic reaction to his mother's milk; he had to drink formula from day one. Today, he's just fine-- healthy, athletic, and reasonably intelligent. Specifically, he's going to community college on a baseball scholarship. (Also, he outgrew the milk allergy.)

But then, I'm sure everyone here knows what anecdotal evidence proves...

You're all sick for clicking the link to read this thread! Wait....I was just curious if we should move this thread to desperate housewives.

Actually, I was curious how a mother could protect her baby from a puppy by breastfeeding the animal...the thread's got a strange title.

It's a matter of not getting the proper immunities from another creature's milk. Young animals haven't developed such things on their own, and rely on mother's milk to provide them early in life. So yeah, doing such a thing poses some risk to a young animal, but it isn't poisoning them or anyhting.

Yah, that I can't speak to. But I'll tell you this, if you want to ruin a puppy, this is probably one of the best ways to go about it.

I think it's a bad idea because the dog is going to grow up thinking it is at least the child's equal, probably the superior because the dog will reach maturity first. Has anyone seen how pups decide pecking order? If the top dog thinks any of the others is getting above their station, the top dog will do whatever it thinks is necessary to stop the rebellion asap. This usually involves nipping at least. Dog behaviourists recommend that you don't let your dog sleep on your bed in case it starts thinking it is the dominant animal (apparently in natural conditions the top dog will sleep wherever it wants and the rest of the pack accomodate it) so how much worse will it be if the dog sees the human baby not being breastfed while it (the puppy) is still being favoured?

Apart from all else - she's breastfeeding the puppy but not the baby??? :confused:

"He drinks more than the baby. It doesn't hurt, but it's a little bit ticklish."

So very wrong.

Of course, it's possible to grow up to be healthy without breastfeeding. The oldest of my three cousins, for example, had an allergic reaction to his mother's milk; he had to drink formula from day one. Today, he's just fine-- healthy, athletic, and reasonably intelligent. Specifically, he's going to community college on a baseball scholarship. (Also, he outgrew the milk allergy.)

But then, I'm sure everyone here knows what anecdotal evidence proves...


How did he find out he'd outgrown the allergy to his mother's milk ... :eek:

Actually, I was curious how a mother could protect her baby from a puppy by breastfeeding the animal...the thread's got a strange title.

Actually, that's why I clicked on it too. From a puppy...not by the puppy.

What the fuck...

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