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Remote-controlled hunting

Vonners
17-11-2004, 17:19
[Moderator Edit - Cogitation] "Texans - Lazy Bastards" is a misleading thread title. [/modedit]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/16/life.hunting.reut/index.html

HOUSTON, Texas (Reuters) -- Hunters soon may be able to sit at their computers and blast away at animals on a Texas ranch via the Internet, a prospect that has state wildlife officials up in arms.

The Web site already offers target practice with a .22 caliber rifle and could soon let hunters shoot at deer, antelope and wild pigs, site creator John Underwood said on Tuesday.

Texas officials are not quite sure what to make of Underwood's Web site, but may tweak existing laws to make sure Internet hunting does not get out of hand.

"This is the first one I've seen," said Texas Parks and Wildlife Department wildlife director Mike Berger. "The current state statutes don't cover this sort of thing."

Underwood, an estimator for a San Antonio, Texas auto body shop, has invested $10,000 to build a platform for a rifle and camera that can be remotely aimed on his 330-acre (133-hectare) southwest Texas ranch by anyone on the Internet anywhere in the world.

The idea came last year while viewing another Web site on which cameras posted in the wild are used to snap photos of animals.

"We were looking at a beautiful white-tail buck and my friend said 'If you just had a gun for that.' A little light bulb went off in my head," he said.

Internet hunting could be popular with disabled hunters unable to get out in the woods or distant hunters who cannot afford a trip to Texas, Underwood said.

Berger said state law only covers "regulated animals" such as native deer and birds and cannot prevent Underwood from offering Internet hunts of "unregulated" animals such as non-native deer that many ranchers have imported and wild pigs.

He has proposed a rule that will come up for public discussion in January that anyone hunting animals covered by state law must be physically on site when they shoot.

Berger expressed reservations about remote control hunting, but noted that humans have always adopted new technologies to hunt.

"First it was rocks and clubs, then we sharpened it and put it on a stick. Then there was the bow and arrow, black powder, smokeless power and optics," Berger said. "Maybe this is the next technological step out there."

Underwood, 39, said he will offer animal hunting as soon as he gets a fast Internet connection to his remote ranch that will enable hunters to aim the rifle quickly at passing animals.

He said an attendant would retrieve shot animals for the shooters, who could have the heads preserved by a taxidermist. They could also have the meat processed and shipped home, or donated to animal orphanages.
Omicron Alpha
17-11-2004, 17:23
Where's the so-called 'thrill of the hunt' in that, exactly?
Joey P
17-11-2004, 17:28
I have a very nice PS2 game called dangerous hunts. It allows you to hunt in the US, Canada, and two African countries. It's fun, but it's not really hunting. Just like that dumb Texan Idea.
Torching Witches
17-11-2004, 17:31
Where's the so-called 'thrill of the hunt' in that, exactly?

Couldn't agree more. If people must hunt, they should do it with very simple equipment to even up the score a bit. Show a bit of bloody respect for the animal (excuse the pun):

We were looking at a beautiful white-tail buck and my friend said 'If you just had a gun for that.'

I rest my case.
New SwissLand
17-11-2004, 17:38
Sweet christ. Texans have proven once again that they are the dumbest people in the world. That is not how you go hunting. What a stupid idea.
Kellarly
17-11-2004, 17:39
animal friendly version

www.moorhuhn.de/
Terran Empire
17-11-2004, 17:45
Sweet christ. Texans have proven once again that they are the dumbest people in the world. That is not how you go hunting. What a stupid idea.

yes texas is the worst state in the U.S. even though Alabama was the one state that had the confederate congress during the civil war, or that Florida cannot count(2000 election). No none of that matters becasue texas has a virtual hunting game....moron go move to canada you draft dodgeing hippe.
Siljhouettes
17-11-2004, 17:47
Kind of defeats the purpose of hunting, I think. I doubt it would be very popular.
Cogitation
17-11-2004, 17:56
New SwissLand and Terran Empire: If this keeps up, I will issue official warnings. Knock it off, now.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
New Exodus
17-11-2004, 17:56
Okay, lets conveniently forget that even stupider and crazier ideas have come from all over the world and plenty of other states. Lets bash Texas because we don't like certain politicians who have come from Texas. Hey, lets even forget that astronauts, famous scientists, technology firms (Texas Instruments, anyone?) and a good chunk of American history has its roots in Texas.

Now I'm not for hunting, and I think hunters should only be allowed weapons that are no more complicated than a bow. What we see here is just another redneck (they aren't that common in Texas, and I would know) who has discovered that technology can make money. As a result, random morons, the "disabled hunters," and poachers will get a crack at shooting animals from the comfort of their home. However, the title of this thread suggests that Texans are lazy, when the article even says that this would be used by non-Texans, since it would be all too easy for most Texans to go hunting, disabled or not. Just keep perspective.
DeaconDave
17-11-2004, 17:58
This is one of the funnier things I have read.

What happens to the deer. Do they ship it to you?
Vonners
17-11-2004, 18:00
Okay, lets conveniently forget that even stupider and crazier ideas have come from all over the world and plenty of other states. Lets bash Texas because we don't like certain politicians who have come from Texas. Hey, lets even forget that astronauts, famous scientists, technology firms (Texas Instruments, anyone?) and a good chunk of American history has its roots in Texas.

Now I'm not for hunting, and I think hunters should only be allowed weapons that are no more complicated than a bow. What we see here is just another redneck (they aren't that common in Texas, and I would know) who has discovered that technology can make money. As a result, random morons, the "disabled hunters," and poachers will get a crack at shooting animals from the comfort of their home. However, the title of this thread suggests that Texans are lazy, when the article even says that this would be used by non-Texans, since it would be all too easy for most Texans to go hunting, disabled or not. Just keep perspective.

Yawn....glad to see the PC police are still around
Wolf America
17-11-2004, 18:02
Internet hunting could be popular with disabled hunters unable to get out in the woods or distant hunters who cannot afford a trip to Texas, Underwood said.

Did anyone read that?

Texas is the only state that can rule itself, if Texas leaves the union.

Yes, Texas is the worst state in the U.S. even though Alabama was the one state that had the confederate congress during the civil war, or that Florida cannot count (2000 election). No none of that matters because Texas has a virtual hunting game....moron go move to Canada you draft dodging hippie.

Do you have a poll said the Texas is the worst states in the United States of America?
Cogitation
17-11-2004, 18:03
What happens to the deer. Do they ship it to you?
I think so.

/me points to the end of the article:
He said an attendant would retrieve shot animals for the shooters, who could have the heads preserved by a taxidermist. They could also have the meat processed and shipped home, or donated to animal orphanages.
--The Democratic States of Cogitation
Founder and Delegate of The Realm of Ambrosia


Wolf America: Don't feed the trolls.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Vonners
17-11-2004, 18:07
This is one of the funnier things I have read.

What happens to the deer. Do they ship it to you?

Just this once....

He said an attendant would retrieve shot animals for the shooters, who could have the heads preserved by a taxidermist. They could also have the meat processed and shipped home, or donated to animal orphanages.
Wolf America
17-11-2004, 18:07
Okay, lets conveniently forget that even stupider and crazier ideas have come from all over the world and plenty of other states. Lets bash Texas because we don't like certain politicians who have come from Texas. Hey, lets even forget that astronauts, famous scientists, technology firms (Texas Instruments, anyone?) and a good chunk of American history has its roots in Texas.

Power to you, man.

Now I'm not for hunting, and I think hunters should only be allowed weapons that are no more complicated than a bow. What we see here is just another redneck (they aren't that common in Texas, and I would know) who has discovered that technology can make money. As a result, random morons, the "disabled hunters," and poachers will get a crack at shooting animals from the comfort of their home. However, the title of this thread suggests that Texans are lazy, when the article even says that this would be used by non-Texans, since it would be all too easy for most Texans to go hunting, disabled or not. Just keep perspective.

I say to h*** with a bow when you have a good gun. That you can hit a deer at 250 - 300 yards away with it.
Wolf America
17-11-2004, 18:09
Wolf America: Don't feed the trolls.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation


Ok but I was showing the part about disabled hunters.

The second part is because TE pissed me off. Nobody talks about my home state. Sorry about feeding the trolls.
Omicron Alpha
17-11-2004, 18:11
I say to h*** with a bow when you have a good gun. That you can hit a deer at 250 - 300 yards away with it.

If you're going to need that deer to live, then maybe. But where's the challenge in shooting something from 250 - 300 yards away when it can't even defend itself anyway? Are you afraid of the deer, or something? Are you on a bet to see who can kill the most deer in a day?
Wolf America
17-11-2004, 18:20
If you're going to need that deer to live, then maybe. But where's the challenge in shooting something from 250 - 300 yards away when it can't even defend itself anyway? Are you afraid of the deer, or something? Are you on a bet to see who can kill the most deer in a day?

Where is the challenge? There is challenge. Say that the deer does not get any closer to you and stay at 250 - 300 yards. Do you think a arrow can go that far and kill the deer?

When it can't even defend itself anyway. Are you saying that you would go toe to hoof with a deer?

Are you afraid of the deer, or something? No.

Are you on a bet to see who can kill the most deer in a day? No. I'm not a poacher.
Vonners
17-11-2004, 18:22
Ok but I was showing the part about disabled hunters.

The second part is because TE pissed me off. Nobody talks about my home state. Sorry about feeding the trolls.

Nobody talks about my home state

So you do not agree with freedom of speech.

How juvenile.
Joey P
17-11-2004, 18:23
If you're going to need that deer to live, then maybe. But where's the challenge in shooting something from 250 - 300 yards away when it can't even defend itself anyway? Are you afraid of the deer, or something? Are you on a bet to see who can kill the most deer in a day?
The challenge is in getting that close to begin with. Not to mention lining up a shot at a wary target that has a tendency to move quickly and plenty of cover to run behind.
DeaconDave
17-11-2004, 18:27
To be honest, I kind of tuned out after the remote controlled gun.

It was hard to concentrate after reading that. My bad.
Omicron Alpha
17-11-2004, 18:27
Do you think a arrow can go that far and kill the deer?

There's the challenge!

When it can't even defend itself anyway. Are you saying that you would go toe to hoof with a deer?

I would if I had a bow and arrow. Or a spear or something. There's no 'thrill' if your life isn't in any danger anyway.
Vonners
17-11-2004, 18:31
There's the challenge!



I would if I had a bow and arrow. Or a spear or something. There's no 'thrill' if your life isn't in any danger anyway.

obviously all humans were vegetarians before the invention of the gun
Eutrusca
17-11-2004, 18:38
This is one of the funnier things I have read.

What happens to the deer. Do they ship it to you?

Yes. As part of our "Ship-a-deer Package," we can ship your freshly shot deer directly to your home. For a small additional fee, we will even drive your car to a remote area, strap your deer across the hood, then drive it back to your home and park it in your driveway! All of your neighbors will think that you have been on a successful deer hunt. Dive your friends and neighbors wild with envy! Be the talk of the town!
Vonners
17-11-2004, 18:40
Yes. As part of our "Ship-a-deer Package," we can ship your freshly shot deer directly to your home. For a small additional fee, we will even drive your car to a remote area, strap your deer across the hood, then drive it back to your home and park it in your driveway! All of your neighbors will think that you have been on a successful deer hunt. Dive your friends and neighbors wild with envy! Be the talk of the town!

LOL!! Brilliant!!!!
Vonners
17-11-2004, 20:20
http://www.whitetails.com/deer251.jpg
TheOneEyedRooster
17-11-2004, 20:27
Remore Control Hunting.
Sounds like I could shoot a human being and get away with it.
TheOneEyedRooster
17-11-2004, 20:34
You only use a rifle one week out of the year for deer hunting and it's just a
muzzle loader. The rest of the time you use bow hunting, and some popular
crossbows can make that 250-300 yard distance.

There already is a way to hunt by remote that many people use for photography. A friend of mine has a video camera on his property
that transmits directly to his computer, he always talks about sticking
a muzzle loader out there, but he likes going out hunting too much.
New Exodus
18-11-2004, 02:14
Originally Posted by Wolf America
Do you have a poll said the Texas is the worst states in the United States of America?

Texans are not draft dodging hippies.
Just letting you know, WA, but I think Terran Empire was being sarcastic in the same way I was. I was a little thrown off by that and also thought TE was bashing Texas, but then I noticed that TE starts pointing out that other states have done worse/crazier things. Most importantly, I'm pretty sure that TE is calling Swissland a draft-dodging hippie, which suggests that TE is more-or-less on our side. (Might want to edit that last part of your post out)

Oh, and Texas really is the greatest state in the Union.