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The answer really is simple, and I'm surprised no one has come across it yet.
We've been off barking up random, ineffectual trees really. We keep arguing about social policy, foreign policy and economic policy. How the EU has healthcare for it's citizens, how the US has lower taxes and unemployment. All this stuff evens out to zilch.

We've also heard all sorts of reasons involving history. Tales of American's roaring down the streets of liberated Paris to rub out even more Germans during WWII, and tales of French officers and equipment being vital to the American efforts during the American Revolution and WWI.

These are all fine and dandy, but in reality the true reason is simple: Cola variety. During my trip to Europe I seemed to only see Coca-Cola products. No Pepsi products at all. Now this would be tolerable if it weren't for the fact that I could only find five different varieties of cola. I came across coke, diet coke, Fanta, Mezzo Mix and some sort of other drink. I never ever saw anything else. Hell, my Uni offers only coke products, but there are nearly 15 different types of coke products available. I can get sprite, or fanta, or mello yellow or whatever. But in Europe I invariable only found those five products.

So, here is the conclusive argument about why the US is better than Europe!

w00t i second that motion?

The answer really is simple, and I'm surprised no one has come across it yet.
We've been off barking up random, ineffectual trees really. We keep arguing about social policy, foreign policy and economic policy. How the EU has healthcare for it's citizens, how the US has lower taxes and unemployment. All this stuff evens out to zilch.

We've also heard all sorts of reasons involving history. Tales of American's roaring down the streets of liberated Paris to rub out even more Germans during WWII, and tales of French officers and equipment being vital to the American efforts during the American Revolution and WWI.

These are all fine and dandy, but in reality the true reason is simple: Cola variety. During my trip to Europe I seemed to only see Coca-Cola products. No Pepsi products at all. Now this would be tolerable if it weren't for the fact that I could only find five different varieties of cola. I came across coke, diet coke, Fanta, Mezzo Mix and some sort of other drink. I never ever saw anything else. Hell, my Uni offers only coke products, but there are nearly 15 different types of coke products available. I can get sprite, or fanta, or mello yellow or whatever. But in Europe I invariable only found those five products.

So, here is the conclusive argument about why the US is better than Europe!

Dude, Sprite and Pepsi do exist in every European country I've been to. I've only seen Mezzo Mix in Germany though.
So your argument is for nought so far.

soft drinks are where it's all at.

I found Pepsi products sparingly while in Germany.

Dude, Sprite and Pepsi do exist in every European country I've been to. I've only seen Mezzo Mix in Germany though.
So your argument is for nought so far.
alas, sprite is a coke product. I sure never saw pepsi though.

http://www.sprite.com/
(at the bottom of the page in the copyright info)

I was in Germany (2 weeks), Austria (4 days) and France (3 days) and I was in Pepsi withdrawl.

pepsi products are for n00bs anyway

coke is for men

Deciding what country is better by what soda products they serve is as dumb as anything that comes out of George "Dubya" Bush's mouth.

Who needs coke products when we have many varieties of gods favourite drink Scotch,single malt aged 12years plus. ;)

Deciding what country is better by what soda products they serve is as dumb as anything that comes out of George "Dubya" Bush's mouth.
It's called being silly, foo.

You can still get Mello Yello in the states...... they stopped selling that here back in the 1980's. Some lame scandal about defofrmed babies or something. I am still in mourning.

You can still get Mello Yello in the states...... they stopped selling that here back in the 1980's. Some lame scandal about defofrmed babies or something. I am still in mourning.
Yep, I get it with break...fas...t...deformed babies? Where? Can I see 'em? That's sweet!

It's called being silly, foo.

Fine, then ill join in. America sux cuz u got to be 21 b4 u can drink alcohol, Canada is slightly better. they are at 18. But i heard in europe that if u can hold the bottle, you can drink it.

Fine, then ill join in. America sux cuz u got to be 21 b4 u can drink alcohol, Canada is slightly better. they are at 18. But i heard in europe that if u can hold the bottle, you can drink it.
*chokes on aim speak*
point...taken...

good point acirema whatsit. Alcohol is cool.

Fine, then ill join in. America sux cuz u got to be 21 b4 u can drink alcohol, Canada is slightly better. they are at 18. But i heard in europe that if u can hold the bottle, you can drink it.
tell that to my hall.

America is better because of its strong democratic tradition. That and because it invades countries that represent no threat to it. USA!

America is better because of its strong democratic tradition. That and because it invades countries that represent no threat to it. USA!
read the rest of the thread, it's about drink diversity.

*chokes on aim speak*
point...taken...

speaking of aim...do yall have aim sns? cuz this forum load uberly slow on my comp so it would be way easier to use aim. my sn: treehuggrliberal

speaking of aim...do yall have aim sns? cuz this forum load uberly slow on my comp so it would be way easier to use aim. my sn: treehuggrliberal
yep my sn is gandyalf08

I'm such a LOTR geek...

Pepsi & Fanta are very common in Slovakia. In fact, Coke was quite hard to find except in Bratislava and Kosice...

Being from th US, I read your post with interest. However, you overlooked one thing. Irn-Bru, possibly the greatest soda type beverage ever in history. And it comes from scotland.

Plus in the UK all sode is invariably bottles using cane sugar, whereas here all too ofter high fructose corn syrup is used. (Blech).

Being from th US, I read your post with interest. However, you overlooked one thing. Irn-Bru, possibly the greatest soda type beverage ever in history. And it comes from scotland.

Plus in the UK all sode is invariably bottles using cane sugar, whereas here all too ofter high fructose corn syrup is used. (Blech).
never been to the UK. I'd enjoy being there.

I don't know what any of you are talking about, but i found pespi prodcts in germany.

i was there for two weeks in the summer and i drank pepsi. You guys weren't looking hard enough.

where?

I got it at Wal-mart.

At least in Kasierlauten where i stayed.

As someone not from Europe or USA - general rule is:

If you want fizzy drink, buy American.

A similar rule is:

If you want a beer, drink your own urine before buying American.

Fine, then ill join in. America sux cuz u got to be 21 b4 u can drink alcohol, Canada is slightly better. they are at 18. But i heard in europe that if u can hold the bottle, you can drink it.
I thought it was 19 in Canada. It is in BC, anyway. Down here in Australia it's officially 18, but most start around 15. And if the US is the best for anything, then its because of all the Australian stuff they've bought up.

I don't know what any of you are talking about, but i found pespi prodcts in germany.

i was there for two weeks in the summer and i drank pepsi. You guys weren't looking hard enough.
there is pepsi in germany. it isnt popular and you wont find it in many places. no surprise, pepsi is disgusting! cola is far better.

I am german and I know that there are several Cola varieties: Coca-cola, Pepsi, Dr. Peppers (okay, that's seldom), Jolt... but even more important: Do you americans have Topstar Cola, Finale Cola or Freeway Cola (Topstar is the cheapest cola, I know of, okay, it tastes cheap, but if you just want to stay awake..., Finale cola is ideal for programming and Freeway cola... mmmmmmhhhh... it is the tastiest cola ever, especially the Freeway Blue)

Of course we have both pepse and coke but why would i give my money to those giants. I prefer our own brands. and, as already mentioned, you may have better soft drinks but who drinks those anyway when the beer is as good as it is :) or mother's cranberry juice.

You never heard of Rolla Cola, only 19p for 6 litres!!!

Do you americans have Topstar Cola, Finale Cola or Freeway Cola (Topstar is the cheapest cola, I know of, okay, it tastes cheap, but if you just want to stay awake..., Finale cola is ideal for programming and Freeway cola... mmmmmmhhhh... it is the tastiest cola ever, especially the Freeway Blue)
Mecca Cola? anyone?

Being from England I can say absolutely that we have Coca Cola, Pepsi, Dr Peppers, Fanta, Sprite etc as common place. They can be bought from any small convenience store up to the main supermarkets. The fact I only like Sprite & Pepsi anyway is irrelevant!!

We have better beer over in the UK and also in Belgium, then in the US! I tried it in all 3 countries!

Being from England I can say absolutely that we have Coca Cola, Pepsi, Dr Peppers, Fanta, Sprite etc as common place. They can be bought from any small convenience store up to the main supermarkets. The fact I only like Sprite & Pepsi anyway is irrelevant!!

We have better beer over in the UK and also in Belgium, then in the US! I tried it in all 3 countries!


Best Ale: England and Ireland

Best White Beer: Germany

Best Lager: Czech Republic

Best Stuff for throwing away: Budweiser (American Brand, shortly followed by Coors extra light)

And so ends todays lesson :D

Mecca Cola? anyone?
saw a report about this in tv!
its sold in turk stores they said.
Vanilla Cola rules. great stuff!

saw a report about this in tv!
its sold in turk stores they said.
Vanilla Cola rules. great stuff!
some small "exotic" shops sell it around here but haven't tasted it yet. They give a donation of the profits to ???? can't remember to whom. Humanitarian aid for palestine?

<edit> yep
http://www.mecca-cola.com/en/index.php
</edit>

Coke is all you need anyway.


None of you people have L&P which is my only real alternitive I drink :(

Mecca Cola? anyone? I saw it in a turkish store in the city, I live in...

Cola!
Iron Bru, Dandelion and Buhrdock, Idris Ginger ale, Tizer, Whites lemonade and best of all fentimans.
http://[URL=http://www.fentimans.com/view_all.asp]
Why do we need cola?

Desani

The answer really is simple, and I'm surprised no one has come across it yet.
We've been off barking up random, ineffectual trees really. We keep arguing about social policy, foreign policy and economic policy. How the EU has healthcare for it's citizens, how the US has lower taxes and unemployment. All this stuff evens out to zilch.

We've also heard all sorts of reasons involving history. Tales of American's roaring down the streets of liberated Paris to rub out even more Germans during WWII, and tales of French officers and equipment being vital to the American efforts during the American Revolution and WWI.

These are all fine and dandy, but in reality the true reason is simple: Cola variety. During my trip to Europe I seemed to only see Coca-Cola products. No Pepsi products at all. Now this would be tolerable if it weren't for the fact that I could only find five different varieties of cola. I came across coke, diet coke, Fanta, Mezzo Mix and some sort of other drink. I never ever saw anything else. Hell, my Uni offers only coke products, but there are nearly 15 different types of coke products available. I can get sprite, or fanta, or mello yellow or whatever. But in Europe I invariable only found those five products.

So, here is the conclusive argument about why the US is better than Europe!

No one gives a fuck if you got more different product when your citizens cant even afford to buy them dumb ass american.

No one gives a fuck if you got more different product when your citizens cant even afford to buy them dumb ass american.

Seems you're the dumb ass for not recognising satire

You obviously didn't go into a supermarket! There are all the regulars, Pepsi, Cola, Virgin Cola etc, and then dozens of cheapo crappy varieties made out of recycled sugar and toilet roll tubes. It's like a haven for dentists' (bank managers)!

No one gives a fuck if you got more different product when your citizens cant even afford to buy them dumb ass american.

something tells me he was being a little sarcastic mate

, Virgin Cola etc,
wow virgin cola!
is it for virgins only? or to make someone a virgin again? or maybe if your tired of beeing a virgin, to drink the stuff inside and use the bottle to ... ?

wow virgin cola!
is it for virgins only? or to make someone a virgin again? or maybe if your tired of beeing a virgin, to drink the stuff inside and use the bottle to ... ?

*thinks about the last suggestion for a minute*

nope

As a Brit who's spent some time there, I can confidently say the U.S. does have one really decent beer - Sam Adams !

A fine, hoppy beer... bloody great :)

As a Brit who's spent some time there, I can confidently say the U.S. does have one really decent beer - Sam Adams !

A fine, hoppy beer... bloody great :)

There was a nice brewery that only did about 5000 bottles a year, never tasted such a good beer from a micro brewery before. It was somewhere near sunday river. Thing is, there are some real nice beers over in the US, just that the big corps (like Interbrew etc etc) just buy them out and shut em down to cut out the competition, which sucks really. :(

Thing is, there are some real nice beers over in the US, just that the big corps (like Interbrew etc etc) just buy them out and shut em down to cut out the competition, which sucks really. :(

Yeah, hadn't heard about that, and it's appaling if that really goes on. As you say, there are some micro breweries in the U.S. that are producing some great beer... Budweiser could learn a thing or two from them.

Czech budweiser is the proper budweiser... the American stuff is just brown water.

Yep, agreed, the Czech stuff is pretty good, and a world away from the US version.

Czech budweiser is the proper budweiser... the American stuff is just brown water.

Budweiser Budvar, my favourite beer of all time. i've been lucky enough to go to the brewery :)

Mecca Cola? anyone?

They sell it here, but I never tried it (don't like cola much, except lemon coke)

Don't know where you searched, both Pepsi and Coca Cola are available in all kinds of varieties here.

Along with Red Bull, king of soft drinks and vodka mixers :)

Czech budweiser is the proper budweiser... the American stuff is just brown water.

Budevar (sp?)...indeed a fine drink....

but...

http://gk007a0336.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/carls.1.jpg

Budweiser Budvar, my favourite beer of all time. i've been lucky enough to go to the brewery :)
same here. and the price is right in Budojewice too.

all you crazy coke drinkin folks! here in blighty we only drink tea doncha know!? hehehe seriously tho, tea far surpasses coffee! and coke of all varieties is rank. best tea i've ever tasted is jasmine green tea in china! they do some crackin tea! :D

In Finland we have at least Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Fanta, Sprite, 7up + couple of Finnish products. Not sure if they sell Doctor Pepper anymore.

Budevar (sp?)...indeed a fine drink....

but...

http://gk007a0336.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/carls.1.jpg

Wanting to forget all your problems Sir? Well Sir, have 5 of these and you won't remember anything.

This non-traviling American has a (possibley stupid) question. For some reason, when I hear Pudding (the food) it sound different than the creamy American-sold by jello-peddled by Bill Cosby snack/dessert. is it different?

This non-traviling American has a (possibley stupid) question. For some reason, when I hear Pudding (the food) it sound different than the creamy American-sold by jello-peddled by Bill Cosby snack/dessert. is it different?

In the UK, 'pudding' is simply another word for dessert, if that's what you mean ?

In Finland we have at least Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Fanta, Sprite, 7up + couple of Finnish products. Not sure if they sell Doctor Pepper anymore.
Of course they do. But you have to know the places...

In the UK, 'pudding' is simply another word for dessert, if that's what you mean ?I guess.. I've heard reference to "Rolly polly pudding" and wondered.

I guess.. I've heard reference to "Rolly polly pudding" and wondered.
Suet sponge with jam in it covered in custard,, hmmm

you forgot "black pudding", which basicly is pigblood weener (hmmm, pigblood)

I guess.. I've heard reference to "Rolly polly pudding" and wondered.
Like spotted dick without the fruit but with the jam....ooh er.. carry on moment just on the horizon.

Suet sponge with jam in it covered in custard,, hmmmSounds good. :)


you forgot "black pudding", which basicly is pigblood weener (hmmm, pigblood)Ok, that I also heard of... and a part of me is interested in trying it... and the other part... is waiting to see what it looks like first.

Like spotted dick without the fruit but with the jam....ooh er.. carry on moment just on the horizon.

resist it RESIST IT!!! :p

Ok, that I also heard of... and a part of me is interested in trying it... and the other part... is waiting to see what it looks like first.
If you see it (or smell) first you won't be able to try it anymore...scary stuff.

Come to England, go North. Stop just before you get to Scotland.
Newcastle! Go into a chip shop and ask for a chip stottie with salt and vinigar and a splash of curry sauce! Go outside,eat with fingers, use paper to wipe curry sauce off the front of expensive clothes. Enter nearest pub and ask for a bottle of dog, repeat this step until you feel hungry again, leave the pub and go back to said chip shop and buy a Donner Kebab with either chilli sauce or garlic sauce. Go home. Wake up and after saying sorry to every one you met before going to be start again from step one.

travel North again, miss Edinburgh and go to Glasgow. Go to chip shop and order haggis and chips and ask them to go light on the salt! Find pub etc..

If you see it (or smell) first you won't be able to try it anymore...scary stuff.so is some Seafood I've had... as well as eating sashimi (raw fish) while the fish itself is still alive. [shudder]

Sounds good. :)


Ok, that I also heard of... and a part of me is interested in trying it... and the other part... is waiting to see what it looks like first.

I can't abide the stuff, it's quite grim:

http://www.jackscaife.co.uk/images/Jack-images/blackpuddingl.jpg

so is some Seafood I've had... as well as eating sashimi (raw fish) while the fish itself is still alive. [shudder]
Well, we don't make bloodpuddings, we make bloodpancakes...I can't really say anything...
Or what you think of this traditional gourmet dish
http://www.dlc.fi/~marianna/gourmet/mammi.htm

Seems you're the dumb ass for not recognising satire

Shut up dumb ass americans

Oh and of course blood sausages (we call it black sausage)
http://www.reklaamikari.fi/musta/sausage.html

Coke is great, US is not, erm i guess europe is not too..hmmm :D

Coke is great, US is not, erm i guess europe is not too..hmmm :DI'll drink to that
YO BARKEEP... COUPLE OF COKES HERE PLEASE!

Fine, then ill join in. America sux cuz u got to be 21 b4 u can drink alcohol, Canada is slightly better. they are at 18. But i heard in europe that if u can hold the bottle, you can drink it.

Unless you can find someone to hold the bottle for you, then it's allright to drink whatever you want.

Coca cola enjoy - Yep... and that's in Sweden. ;-)

We got pepsi, pepsi X, pepsi lemon, pepsi max blah blah blah, it's horrible, but if it's the only thing they got, sure I'll buy it.

Dr.Pepper, Fanta, Sprite... yum yum

Czech budweiser is the proper budweiser... the American stuff is just brown water.

Budvar is good, but there are many better beers to be had in Prague. Last time I was there (almost 3 years ago), I drank 5 litres a DAY, usually a different beer every half litre. (That's about a 22oz'er for those non-conversant in the metric system). For 5 days. Didn't gain an ounce. (Might have been all the walking, but hey...)

I'm Slovak, and I love going back to the former Czechoslovakia. Literally every town of ten thousand has their own brewery.

My all time fav, though, is Smadny Mnich, or "Thirsty Monk Beer" by Saris in Slovakia. The best finishing beer of all time. If you can find it, BUY IT!!

wow virgin cola!
is it for virgins only? or to make someone a virgin again? or maybe if your tired of beeing a virgin, to drink the stuff inside and use the bottle to ... ?

You're fairly close. If you drink it once, you're never allowed to drink it again because you're no longer a 'Virgin Cola virgin' and it's only for 'Virgin Cola virgins'... um... yeah, that's right. Confused myself for a minute there. As it's magical cola that tastes 100x nicer than any other brand, and it doesn't damage your teeth, or make you fat, that annoys quite a few people.

The last suggestion would be good, only it comes in cans too :eek:

Or, it could be made by a company called Virgin :p

Best Ale: England and Ireland

Ireland? Nah, though it can claim best stout. Belgium's gotta be up there.

Best White Beer: Germany

Agreed

Best Lager: Czech Republic

Also agreed, though a token mention for Russian lager. Baltika 7: 12% and it doesn't taste half bad (well, not at 1am in the middle of Siberia anyhow).

Best Stuff for throwing away: Budweiser (American Brand, shortly followed by Coors extra light)

Incidentally Budweiser Budvar is now outselling the US variety in the UK.

And so ends todays lesson :D

Teacher, are you drunk?

all you crazy coke drinkin folks! here in blighty we only drink tea doncha know!? hehehe seriously tho, tea far surpasses coffee! and coke of all varieties is rank. best tea i've ever tasted is jasmine green tea in china! they do some crackin tea! :D

Agreed, there's some bloody fantastic tea here. I recommend Ermei mountain from Sichuan if you can ever find it. Best I've had so far.

As it's magical cola that tastes 100x nicer than any other brand, and it doesn't damage your teeth, or make you fat, that annoys quite a few people. so it isnt made with real sugar? its made this artifical sugar (whose english name i cant remember) like pepsi is? then its probably disgusting.

The last suggestion would be good, only it comes in cans too :eek: ouch that hurt. but it hurts anyway, so why care :D

Or, it could be made by a company called Virgin :p the record company? they make coke too? :confused:

so it isnt made with real sugar? its made this artifical sugar (whose enlish name i cant remember) like pepsi is? then its probably disgusting.


And causes depression.

Shut up dumb ass americans

Hate to break the news but I live in the UK.

Now go back to kindergarten like a good little sprog....don't want to have to clean up after yer next tantrum.

the record company? they make coke too? :confused:

It's a British company owned by (Sir?) Richard Branson, the billionaire entrepreneur. I know that he sold one of his sections of Virgin, but I can't remember which one... basically you have Virgin Mobile, Virgin Airlines, Virgin Records, Virgin Coke, and the new-fangled Virgin Galactic that's offering flights into space for a princely sum.

Oh yeah, there's also Virgin Cinema, and probably loads of others that I've forgotten.

Ireland? Nah, though it can claim best stout. Belgium's gotta be up there.



Agreed



Also agreed, though a token mention for Russian lager. Baltika 7: 12% and it doesn't taste half bad (well, not at 1am in the middle of Siberia anyhow).



Incidentally Budweiser Budvar is now outselling the US variety in the UK.



Teacher, are you drunk?


Unfortunately i am sobre, and i think anything with alcohol would taste nice at 1am in the middle of siberia! :p :D

Shut up dumb ass americans

And you said he didn't know satire...

And causes depression.
lol who needs cola for that :(

Get a life. This is old already, but every one is allowed a rant no matter how bizzare and dillusional it may appear to be?
First are you sure you were in the EU? I know how certain people are incapable of reading a political map.
Second, if in fact it was an EU country was it a new member. New states, while fantastic countries are a wee bit backwards.
Thirdly, Pepsi is only nice in the US. Coke is horrible in the US but far nicer in Europe. I have been to most of the countries with in the original 15 member states of the EU and the same applied.
But to base an arguement and a very weak one at that on the availability of mineral drinks is a very very very sad day for Americans. Several of your fellow countrymen/women/elves have been complaining about threads posted re the intelligence of American citizens and how enlosed they are in their own country and you have just gone off and destroyed that.
Honestly!
An amused European.

Bah, who cares about America? It's all about CANADA!
I mean really: Good prices (except on cigarettes), good products, free healthcare, a moderate tax between the UK and America, cheap schooling, a decent education system, and a good standard of living. Not to mention great beer! American beer is like water, but Canadian beer is like moonshine.
Of course we have an idiot parliament that never gets anything done. But our dollar, slowly but surely, is gonna overtake the Americans. Get in while you can!

Get a life. This is old already, but every one is allowed a rant no matter how bizzare and dillusional it may appear to be?
First are you sure you were in the EU? I know how certain people are incapable of reading a political map.
Second, if in fact it was an EU country was it a new member. New states, while fantastic countries are a wee bit backwards.
Thirdly, Pepsi is only nice in the US. Coke is horrible in the US but far nicer in Europe. I have been to most of the countries with in the original 15 member states of the EU and the same applied.
But to base an arguement and a very weak one at that on the availability of mineral drinks is a very very very sad day for Americans. Several of your fellow countrymen/women/elves have been complaining about threads posted re the intelligence of American citizens and how enlosed they are in their own country and you have just gone off and destroyed that.
Honestly!
An amused European.

As another european, i apologise for another who completely missed the point ( :headbang: ) of this thread being a parody, therefore making fun, of the other more 'serious' threads.

And you said he didn't know satire...

sadly that is not satire....that is a rant....however true it might be! :)

As another european, i apologise for another who completely missed the point ( :headbang: ) of this thread being a parody, therefore making fun, of the other more 'serious' threads.

LOL!!! Welcome to Nation States General Forum....

As another european, i apologise for another who completely missed the point ( :headbang: ) of this thread being a parody, therefore making fun, of the other more 'serious' threads. :confused: it was supposed to be a parody??? I got some nice information that I didn't know.... so ... er... thanks... :D

As someone not from Europe or USA - general rule is:

If you want fizzy drink, buy American.

A similar rule is:

If you want a beer, drink your own urine before buying American.


There actually are good american made beers - just not the mass-produced mass-marketed ones (eg. bud, miller, coors...) which suck.

Try some of our tasty micro brews if you're ever in the States.

Some good micro breweries (IMHO):

Magic Hat: a small brewing co. from Vermont. Tasty, tasty beers. There's #9 (the standard ale), Humble Patience (an irish red), Blind Faith (pale ale) and others. Sadly, my favorite - the Pollenator - was not brewed this year

Long Trail Ales: another Vermont brewer. My favorite: the Hibernator, a winter ale, a bit on the dark side but lighter than a porter, with a hint of honey flavor.

Flying Dog litter of Ales: a colorado brewery. With funky names like Tire Biter, Leg-lifter lager, and In Heat Wheat. The beers are as tasty as their names are wacky.

Flying Fish: a brewer from New Jersey. My favorite brew: the Abbey Dubbel, brewed in the trappiste style. Quite delicious.

Foggy Bottom: a DC brewery. Their standard ale is quite nice...and when you're in DC it's CHEAP!

These are just some highlights...there are hundreds of other micro-breweries out there (liberty, catamount, old dominion, victory, yards, etc. etc.)

Yuengling Brewery, the maker of a mighty fine lager beer, used to be a micro-brew but are now the 5th largest beer maker in the US. It's the only mass market beer I will drink, as it is the only good one; and I was drinking it before the nationwide expansion.

Oh - one last thing - I'm not a US made beer only kinda person. I am also a huge fan of belgian and german beers, esp. hefewizens and dubelbocks. Yum, yum!

Now, if you want to talk about wines made in the states - which is a whole other topic that I won't go into now - I'll have to say that 95% of it is crap. Damned california...spreading swill around the world the way mosquitos spread west nile...

so it isnt made with real sugar? its made this artifical sugar (whose english name i cant remember) like pepsi is? then its probably disgusting.

Those parts I made up. But I think they do actually do a diet version, with that stuff I can never spell instead of sugar.


ouch that hurt. but it hurts anyway, so why care :D

I'll take your word for it :p

the record company? they make coke too? :confused:

Off the top of my head, I can think of Virgin Records (of which Virgin Megastores may be part of, otherwise add Virgin's line of stores to the list), Virgin airlines, trains (they still do those? I value my life so I stay away from the British rail system), hot air balloons (they still do those too?), mobile phones, internet, cars (they don't make them, they sell used and pre-registered cars)... I'm probably missing a few. And yeah, they go into space now too. They're pretty diverse, really :D.

EU, doesn't roll off the tongue does it? UK US they do! Can't have the U at the end.

LOL!!! Welcome to Nation States General Forum....


...and the fact that someone can't understand sarcasm in text.... :D

There actually are good american made beers - just not the mass-produced mass-marketed ones (eg. bud, miller, coors...) which suck.

Try some of our tasty micro brews if you're ever in the States.

Some good micro breweries (IMHO):

Magic Hat: a small brewing co. from Vermont. Tasty, tasty beers. There's #9 (the standard ale), Humble Patience (an irish red), Blind Faith (pale ale) and others. Sadly, my favorite - the Pollenator - was not brewed this year

Long Trail Ales: another Vermont brewer. My favorite: the Hibernator, a winter ale, a bit on the dark side but lighter than a porter, with a hint of honey flavor.

Flying Dog litter of Ales: a colorado brewery. With funky names like Tire Biter, Leg-lifter lager, and In Heat Wheat. The beers are as tasty as their names are wacky.

Flying Fish: a brewer from New Jersey. My favorite brew: the Abbey Dubbel, brewed in the trappiste style. Quite delicious.

Foggy Bottom: a DC brewery. Their standard ale is quite nice...and when you're in DC it's CHEAP!

These are just some highlights...there are hundreds of other micro-breweries out there (liberty, catamount, old dominion, victory, yards, etc. etc.)

Yuengling Brewery, the maker of a mighty fine lager beer, used to be a micro-brew but are now the 5th largest beer maker in the US. It's the only mass market beer I will drink, as it is the only good one; and I was drinking it before the nationwide expansion.

Oh - one last thing - I'm not a US made beer only kinda person. I am also a huge fan of belgian and german beers, esp. hefewizens and dubelbocks. Yum, yum!

Now, if you want to talk about wines made in the states - which is a whole other topic that I won't go into now - I'll have to say that 95% of it is crap. Damned california...spreading swill around the world the way mosquitos spread west nile...

*Writes the names down*

Next time i am over (now i'm 21) its gonna be party time!!!

...and the fact that someone can't understand sarcasm in text.... :D

indeed LOL

EU, doesn't roll off the tongue does it? UK US they do! Can't have the U at the end.

They need to add something to it. European Union... Party? Gang? Posse? Orgy? EUP. EUG. EUO. Hmm... Not sure which would be best. I quite like saying EUG out loud, despite the strange looks it's drawing from my co-workers.

They need to add something to it. European Union... Party? Gang? Posse? Orgy? EUP. EUG. EUO. Hmm... Not sure which would be best. I quite like saying EUG out loud, despite the strange looks it's drawing from my co-workers.
How about EUP would go down a storm in Yorkshire eh up!

They need to add something to it. European Union... Party? Gang? Posse? Orgy? EUP. EUG. EUO. Hmm... Not sure which would be best. I quite like saying EUG out loud, despite the strange looks it's drawing from my co-workers.Greater European Union? GEU? Ugh sounds worse. United European Union... UEU? Mmmmm need to think on this one.

Maybe it's not the organisation that needs renaming, but the continent? Europe is such a rubbish word. 'Fantastica' would be a better name. Or 'Dumpsville'. A lot of people from a single part of Europe think that 'France' would be a good name for it, but I don't like that one.

The United Sovereign Nations of Fantastica. There. They can write that on the constitution.

How about EUP would go down a storm in Yorkshire eh up!

:D :D :D

The answer really is simple, and I'm surprised no one has come across it yet.
We've been off barking up random, ineffectual trees really. We keep arguing about social policy, foreign policy and economic policy. How the EU has healthcare for it's citizens, how the US has lower taxes and unemployment. All this stuff evens out to zilch.

We've also heard all sorts of reasons involving history. Tales of American's roaring down the streets of liberated Paris to rub out even more Germans during WWII, and tales of French officers and equipment being vital to the American efforts during the American Revolution and WWI.

These are all fine and dandy, but in reality the true reason is simple: Cola variety. During my trip to Europe I seemed to only see Coca-Cola products. No Pepsi products at all. Now this would be tolerable if it weren't for the fact that I could only find five different varieties of cola. I came across coke, diet coke, Fanta, Mezzo Mix and some sort of other drink. I never ever saw anything else. Hell, my Uni offers only coke products, but there are nearly 15 different types of coke products available. I can get sprite, or fanta, or mello yellow or whatever. But in Europe I invariable only found those five products.

So, here is the conclusive argument about why the US is better than Europe!

Ignorance is bliss it seems. Who needs Coca if you can buy Fernandes at your local store? It's Surinamese, it's cola, it's flavored and above all: it rules!

Hate to break the news but I live in the UK.


Shut up dumb ass anglosaxons.


P.S. Sorry I couldn't resist.
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As a Brit who's spent some time there, I can confidently say the U.S. does have one really decent beer - Sam Adams !

A fine, hoppy beer... bloody great :)
Of all the national beer chains Sam Adams is the best, but on a local scale there is a pretty strong group of microbreweries. Often times these can be found in the midwest, and almost universally family businesses run by the descendants of immigrants.

In the US regional varieties are key. You'll find an awful lot of German type beers in the midwest (where you'll also find the great profaners of beer, but hey), whist in the east you tend to find a more English/Irish type. No one has any idea what they drink in Cali though.

Homebrewers also aid in the quality of American beer.

Even if I'm not supposed to drink it yet...

As another european, i apologise for another who completely missed the point ( :headbang: ) of this thread being a parody, therefore making fun, of the other more 'serious' threads.
eh, oh well. Maybe they need another drink *hands all who fail to see the sillyness a nice (your fav. drink here)*

Shut up dumb ass anglosaxons.


P.S. Sorry I couldn't resist.
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LOL!! Touche :)

I'll take your word for it :p so you dont know for yourself? oh thats sad. :(

Off the top of my head, I can think of Virgin Records (of which Virgin Megastores may be part of, otherwise add Virgin's line of stores to the list), Virgin airlines, trains (they still do those? I value my life so I stay away from the British rail system), hot air balloons (they still do those too?), mobile phones, internet, cars (they don't make them, they sell used and pre-registered cars)... I'm probably missing a few. And yeah, they go into space now too. They're pretty diverse, really :D.
honestly, i really only know virgin records, never heard of the rest.

Maybe it's not the organisation that needs renaming, but the continent? Europe is such a rubbish word. 'Fantastica' would be a better name. Or 'Dumpsville'. A lot of people from a single part of Europe think that 'France' would be a good name for it, but I don't like that one.

The United Sovereign Nations of Fantastica. There. They can write that on the constitution.

Personally I think we should consider a wholsale renaming of all Western Countries. How about this for starters:

USA: "We're Number One, Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh"
UK, Canada and Australia: "No, we're not just like "We're Number One, Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh""
New Zealand: "No, we're not just like "No, we're not just like "We're Number One, Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh"""
France: "Up Yours Rosbif"
Germany:"Look, We're Sorry, OK?"
Italy: "Berlusconiville"
Spain: "We're Big Too"
All other EU countries: "Doormat"

is there really nothing better to argue about?

Personally I think we should consider a wholsale renaming of all Western Countries. How about this for starters:

USA: "We're Number One, Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh"
UK, Canada and Australia: "No, we're not just like "We're Number One, Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh""
New Zealand: "No, we're not just like "No, we're not just like "We're Number One, Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh"""
France: "Up Yours Rosbif"
Germany:"Look, We're Sorry, OK?"
Italy: "Berlusconiville"
Spain: "We're Big Too"
All other EU countries: "Doormat"


:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Personally I think we should consider a wholsale renaming of all Western Countries. How about this for starters:

USA: "We're Number One, Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh"
UK, Canada and Australia: "No, we're not just like "We're Number One, Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh""
New Zealand: "No, we're not just like "No, we're not just like "We're Number One, Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh"""
France: "Up Yours Rosbif"
Germany:"Look, We're Sorry, OK?"
Italy: "Berlusconiville"
Spain: "We're Big Too"
All other EU countries: "Doormat"

yes, we can include Japan and call them "Asian "We're Number One, Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh Neh""

To go back to the black-pudding debate, in Sweden it is made out ale, pig's blood and oat, all mixed together to a pudding and then fried. After a few minuts it is black and ready to eat with lingon-berry jam (I know how it sounds, but I just can't resist it!)!
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=4779&a=87381
http://www.charkdelikatesser.se/recept/recept.asp?R_ID=28

Everyone knows that Julmust and Pommac own Cola (at least in Sweden), so why bother?

What I know "Europe" is not one country with one law, and thus ages for drinking vary. Here it is at 18, although the socials estimated in a research that at least 60% first drink at 13.

These are all fine and dandy, but in reality the true reason is simple: Cola variety. During my trip to Europe I seemed to only see Coca-Cola products. No Pepsi products at all. Now this would be tolerable if it weren't for the fact that I could only find five different varieties of cola. I came across coke, diet coke, Fanta, Mezzo Mix and some sort of other drink. I never ever saw anything else. Hell, my Uni offers only coke products, but there are nearly 15 different types of coke products available. I can get sprite, or fanta, or mello yellow or whatever. But in Europe I invariable only found those five products.
Where in Europe did you go? Where I live we have all of those things + Vanilla Coke. (except Mezzo Mix which I have never heard of)

Originally Posted by Andaluciae
These are all fine and dandy, but in reality the true reason is simple: Cola variety. During my trip to Europe I seemed to only see Coca-Cola products. No Pepsi products at all. Now this would be tolerable if it weren't for the fact that I could only find five different varieties of cola. I came across coke, diet coke, Fanta, Mezzo Mix and some sort of other drink. I never ever saw anything else. Hell, my Uni offers only coke products, but there are nearly 15 different types of coke products available. I can get sprite, or fanta, or mello yellow or whatever. But in Europe I invariable only found those five products.


Loser, we have thousands of different wine regions in Europe, better try that next time instead of looking for coke like a typical US Urhu Qhai or other Hobbit. :p

Where in Europe did you go? Where I live we have all of those things + Vanilla Coke. (except Mezzo Mix which I have never heard of)
to put it short, its cola and fanta mixed together. isnt bad, you should try it sometimes.

It really doesn't matter which cola you try to get into since Japan has the best drinks ever. EU and the uSA are sorely lagging behind them in the drink wars!

It really doesn't matter which cola you try to get into since Japan has the best drinks ever. EU and the uSA are sorely lagging behind them in the drink wars!

Only thing good is Saké, their wines are bwark, I tasted them, even the stuff with woodships from California is better then that.

Cuz we hurr Americanies r p1mp.

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Loser, we have thousands of different wine regions in Europe, better try that next time instead of looking for coke like a typical US Urhu Qhai or other Hobbit. :p
I drank my cola in the morning, so I was after cola then. Alcohol is for after 14:00. After that time I did have some damn good drinks, but, I got nailed by a couple red wines that tasted roughly like kerosene.

After that time I did have some damn good drinks, but, I got nailed by a couple red wines that tasted roughly like kerosene.

Californian red ink in a tetrabrik?
Or verry cheap EU ink?, I never drink bad wine, wetther it is Italian, Californian, Oregon (great Pinot noir), German, Austrian, Hungary (Tokaji) or another region.

Just a question of knowlidge and following the wine actuality (RVF, Hachette, Parker aso.) Takes a while but since it is a hobby, I like to be with my nose in those magazines and by those wines.

Californian red ink in a tetrabrik?
Or verry cheap EU ink?, I never drink bad wine, wetther it is Italian, Californian, Oregon (great Pinot noir), German, Austrian, Hungary (Tokaji) or another region.

Just a question of knowlidge and following the wine actuality (RVF, Hachette, Parker aso.) Takes a while but since it is a hobby, I like to be with my nose in those magazines and by those wines.
I know one of the really bad one's was from somewhere in Northern France.

Being an 18 year old yank and my total alcohol experience at the time being a few cheap (and disgusting) beers at parties, though, I had no knowledge of wines, but I found that I loved most white wines. I like it when wines are somewhat sweet. (and no, unlike most crazy underage (in the US) americans I didn't get drunk while in Europe, the drink was too good to overdo!)

But you Europeans can claim to have made it impossible for me to ever drink cheap beer ever again. I was so spoiled by the German beer, that I tasted a Natty light recently, and I sputtered.

Just my deluded opinion.

But you Europeans can claim to have made it impossible for me to ever drink cheap beer ever again. I was so spoiled by the German beer, that I tasted a Natty light recently, and I sputtered.

Just my deluded opinion.

no offence but i know american beer tasts and looks like piss water :(

..though i don't really like wine :rolleyes:

no offence but i know american beer tasts and looks like piss water :(
I'll be the first to admit that for the mass produced shit.

But there are a goodly number of American micro-breweries. And the beer they make is highly similar to some European beers, chiefly because they are run by immigrants, or the descendants thereof.

Alcohol is for after 14:00.

Pussy ;)

u lucky Americans and Europeans. Down here in NZ we only have coca cola, + vanilla flavour as our only types of cola Dr Peppers is vv rare we got pepsi though :(

Only thing good is Saké, their wines are bwark, I tasted them, even the stuff with woodships from California is better then that.
What about Midori?

i dont think we've got every Cola product yet though we rejoice in the abundance of coke and vanilla and lemon and diet coke with vanilla-y lemony stuff with extract of crap... but we dont have coke and lime yet, as far as ive seen, i await it, not very eagerly.

PS. why cry for pepsi, pepsi's crap.