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Does anyone in the US think that Ms Rice could possibly better the diplomatic relations with the rest of the world? I mean, really?

Well, what comes out of her mouth is more likely to be supported by the administration. Colin Powell was mainly used and ignored.

Does anyone in the US think that Ms Rice could possibly better the diplomatic relations with the rest of the world? I mean, really?

Is that what you think the job is? More like negotiate for US interests with the rest of the world.

Don't insult Rottweilers, it isn’t nice.

Powell was so much better than Rice.

I believe that Rice, being only the 2nd Woman Sec. of State (according to CBS), will be an excelent Secretay of State. Definately not as good as Powell, but probably one of the best people capable of the position. I believe that she can improve relations that were severed in Europe. But I think that, bein a woman, it may make people in Muslim countrys not like her, or maybe even the nation.

I believe that she can improve relations that were severed in Europe.

And we would want that... because?

It would be better to keep war from breaking out in Asia, and trying to discourage Palestinian racism in an effort to create a good role model for tolerance in the Middle East.

Both are futile, yes, but unlike trying to appease Europeans, who have no further use for US support (they are now perfectly capable of defending themselves and their artificially strengthened and protected economy requires discouragement of trade with the US,) it will actually yield positive results, and be less intrusive on US isolationism. We also would not have to take sides or otherwise deal with European internal political and policy bickering, except perhaps in the case of our traditional allies Turkey and Greece.

Condelezza Rice seems to be a pain in the neck of liberalism, endorsing and supporting resistance to global shifting towards soviet-styled government policy and appeasement. However, since I am unaware of her making major impact in practice, and thus am unaware of any way to consider her significant as a canidate for Secetary of State.

I believe that Rice, being only the 2nd Woman Sec. of State (according to CBS), will be an excelent Secretay of State. Definately not as good as Powell, but probably one of the best people capable of the position. I believe that she can improve relations that were severed in Europe. But I think that, bein a woman, it may make people in Muslim countrys not like her, or maybe even the nation.
Her first job will to purge the State Department of 'moderates'. I doubt the fact that she wields a vagina will help in Europe, no matter how red it may be. In case you haven't noticed Muslim countries already don't like the Bush administration and are quite right in the awareness that she is and was on the inside of the 'attack Iraq' crew at the White House. A war they feel is part of a US decalred open season on Muslims everywhere.

And we would want that... because?

It would be better to keep war from breaking out in Asia, and trying to discourage Palestinian racism in an effort to create a good role model for tolerance in the Middle East.

Both are futile, yes, but unlike trying to appease Europeans, who have no further use for US support (they are now perfectly capable of defending themselves and their artificially strengthened and protected economy requires discouragement of trade with the US,) it will actually yield positive results, and be less intrusive on US isolationism. We also would not have to take sides or otherwise deal with European internal political and policy bickering, except perhaps in the case of our traditional allies Turkey and Greece.

Condelezza Rice seems to be a pain in the neck of liberalism, endorsing and supporting resistance to global shifting towards soviet-styled government policy and appeasement. However, since I am unaware of her making major impact in practice, and thus am unaware of any way to consider her significant as a canidate for Secetary of State.
Turkey isn't a European country. No matter how much Bush wants it to be. It's not.

Does anyone in the US think that Ms Rice could possibly better the diplomatic relations with the rest of the world? I mean, really?
Yes. Of course. :D

I didnt mean it in the since as in just because she is a woman she will fix relations. I was saying that I think she will try and get the relations fixed.

Turkey isn't a European country. No matter how much Bush wants it to be. It's not.

Turkey is considered a European country.

Poor statesmen from other countries, they'll be forced to look at and be in the room with condoleeza rice now on a regular basis.

If i were a national leader i'd flatly refuse to meet with her.

If they accused me of being anti-women i'd reply "no no, send me madeline albriet"

If they accused me of being anti-black, i'd reply "no no, send me colin powell"

Turkey is considered a European country.
Ermm...no. It's not.

Ermm...no. It's not.

Ermm...yes. It is.

I believe that Rice, being only the 2nd Woman Sec. of State (according to CBS), will be an excelent Secretay of State. Definately not as good as Powell, but probably one of the best people capable of the position. I believe that she can improve relations that were severed in Europe. But I think that, bein a woman, it may make people in Muslim countrys not like her, or maybe even the nation.

3d woman if you count Warren Christopher.

Ahhh Condi Condi Condi........

In my opinion, judging by her performance in her previous post, she will essentially be a reinforcement of the Bush isolationist ethos. Her appointment appears to be more of a 'reward' for her previous work than a tactical decision by the Bush camp.

Which means that now Powell's gone, the moderates in the Administration are being purged. Armitage is gone too, right? She will either do as she's told by Bush, or create policies which are in line with neocon thinking regardless.
She wont try to mend relations with Europe, most European leaders probably wont trust her and will want to meet with Bush himself.
She wont improve relations in the Middle East, but then, nobody could really, at this stage.
She MIGHT act on Africa, but probably only as a side project.
And Asia, well, I don't know to be honest.......the best thing she could do is make best buds with Russia, even better than current buds.

Ermm...yes. It is.
Actually only part of Turkey is a part of Europe. The majority is a part of Asia. So sayith the CIA.

I didnt mean it in the since as in just because she is a woman she will fix relations. I was saying that I think she will try and get the relations fixed.
She will do what she is told. She is not autonomous.

Good old Stewart :p

"Let's see, she...well, she knows four languages...she's an excellent pianist...she's even good at figure ice skating. In fact, it appears she can do almost anything. Looks like the only thing she can't do is make peace with other countries"

Actually, she makes me think of a rattlesnake rather than a rottweiler... or some other cold-blooded apod venimous animal...
(shrugs)

(not that I'm a big fan of rottweilers, but they're a lot closer to human than Rice)

Ermm...yes. It is.
No way. Asia is called Asia because of the Asia that is now called Minor, which is Turkey. Turkey is not a European country and even less one of the EU, i.e. "true" Europe.

And if anyone thinks the US could possibly go on with its policies abroad as they were conducted in recent decades, he will soon realize that it gradually loses the intellectual and financial capabilities to do so. The US has already lost all trustworthiness due to the massive mistakes Bush has made so far (not getting control over Afghanistan or even Bush's former friends of the Taliban, not getting control over Iraq where the situation is getting worse every single day costing the US tax payer billions of dollars, generating a huge budget deficit, killing millions of jobs, etc.) and if he continues his isolationistic and unilateral policies the US will lose more and more partners in international diplomacy and in trade. In many countries the euro has already replaced the dollar as the stable foreign currency to rely on.

Her first job will to purge the State Department of 'moderates'. I doubt the fact that she wields a vagina will help in Europe, no matter how red it may be. In case you haven't noticed Muslim countries already don't like the Bush administration and are quite right in the awareness that she is and was on the inside of the 'attack Iraq' crew at the White House. A war they feel is part of a US decalred open season on Muslims everywhere.

No matter how red what is, Europe, or her vagina? :confused: