Adam and Eve
Legless Pirates
16-11-2004, 15:48
Sorry if I got this part of the bible all wrong...
Adam and Eve had 2 sons (and one of them killed the other)... How did Mankind procreate after that?
UpwardThrust
16-11-2004, 15:50
Sorry if I got this part of the bible all wrong...
Adam and Eve had 2 sons (and one of them killed the other)... How did Mankind procreate after that?
Gay sex (ignore the biology for a moment)
One of the sons had sex with his mother?
Green israel
16-11-2004, 15:54
Sorry if I got this part of the bible all wrong...
Adam and Eve had 2 sons (and one of them killed the other)... How did Mankind procreate after that?
they had a girl too, but in most of the time, the bible don't talk on the girls.
Greenmanbry
16-11-2004, 15:54
Incest was allowed during the time of Adam and Eve's children's lives..
Dunno what the bible says though.
This part of the bible is messed up.
Skip to the part where god starts to kill everyone and everything will make sense.
Ther Bible tells that: Cain found a woman who didn't even exist, had sex with her even though everyone on the face of the Earth would want to kill him, and had several kids.
In other words, read the ancient Babylonian myth the Eden myth is based on and it'll make more sense.
Caine and Abel are simply the only two children named in that part of the text. Seth was their third son, and many assume an unnamed daughter was born as well. In any case, the world was populated, according to the Bible, via incest. It's hard to imagine how four people constitute a viable genetic pool...
As to who Caine met in the lands east of Nod, that would be Lillith, who the Christian bibles neglect to mention. She was Adam's first wife, according to older versions of the story. She was cast out for willingly taking the fruit of knowledge, or for not submitting to Adam or God. Take your pick, the stories can vary.
The Isthmus
16-11-2004, 15:55
Reread it again, it said had "Other sons and daughters" . . . which means a lot of incest . . . :eek:
I really like the old testament, has lotsa of sex and wars. Just skip the "god killed the cool guys" parts and will be a fine book.
Yea, they had other sons and daughters: All of them AFTER the events I stated. Here's the timeline of the second creation story according to the bible itself
It went like this.
Adam + Eve
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Abel X Cain \
X | Woman from Nod
| \
| Their Children
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Seth
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Other children
Adam and Eve had a third son after Cain killed Abel. His name was Seth. (That's my name. Heh.)
He bore children after that.
UpwardThrust
16-11-2004, 16:07
Just think of the family reunion these people must have had :-D
Legless Pirates
16-11-2004, 16:08
Just think of the family reunion these people must have had :-D
6 billion and counting...
UpwardThrust
16-11-2004, 16:09
6 billion and counting...
Me and you might even be 254231th cousins! (vs second cousins)
Legless Pirates
16-11-2004, 16:10
Dude.... I had sex with a few of my cousins.... sick. I'm never having sex again
UpwardThrust
16-11-2004, 16:13
Dude.... I had sex with a few of my cousins.... sick. I'm never having sex again
AH me too! ewwwww
There was a study done in England that showed that 1 in every 6 men can be geneologically connected to Ghengis Kahn.
There was a study done in England that showed that 1 in every 6 men can be geneologically connected to Ghengis Kahn.
That's because the Khan's empire stretched from Poland to the very shores of Japan. He beat the hell out of everyone he came across.
Grave_n_idle
16-11-2004, 17:10
That's because the Khan's empire stretched from Poland to the very shores of Japan. He beat the hell out of everyone he came across.
I can't be sure, but didn't G.W. Bush attend the "Genghis Khan School of Diplomacy"?
Sukafitz
16-11-2004, 17:28
That book says that Adam lived for 930 years and had other sons and
daughters; five altogether. Obviously there was some incest going on.
Other Incest found in Genesis, 19:30-38
After God saved Lot and most of his family from the destruction of Sodom &
Gomorrah, he went with his two daughters to live in a cave. His daughters
got their father drunk and had sex with the old guy so they could preserve
the seed of their father.
Genesis 19:36. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
The Jewish and Christian belief is pretty confused. I've heard several times
from religious nuts that Cain being marked meant that he was now a black
man.
DeaconDave
16-11-2004, 17:31
I can't be sure, but didn't G.W. Bush attend the "Genghis Khan School of Diplomacy"?
According to John Kerry its pronounced "Jhengis".
What an ass clown.
Conceptualists
16-11-2004, 17:37
According to John Kerry its pronounced "Jhengis".
What an ass clown.
According to my mother as well. Maybe it is a Catholic thing.
Anyway, where you there with Gengis? How can you know for sure?
Druthulhu
16-11-2004, 17:39
Sorry if I got this part of the bible all wrong...
Adam and Eve had 2 sons (and one of them killed the other)... How did Mankind procreate after that?
Adam and Eve had three sons. And the Bible does not mention the birth of daughters until the two daughters of Lamech, probably because he did not have any sons.
Siljhouettes
16-11-2004, 17:40
That book says that Adam lived for 930 years and...
I call bullshit!
DeaconDave
16-11-2004, 17:53
According to my mother as well. Maybe it is a Catholic thing.
Anyway, where you there with Gengis? How can you know for sure?
But how did Jhengis pronounce nuclear?
That's the real question then.
Grave_n_idle
16-11-2004, 18:06
But how did Jhengis pronounce nuclear?
That's the real question then.
You see your mistake, there? Text-book error...
It's pronounced Noo-kew-ler.
Demented Hamsters
16-11-2004, 18:18
I vaguely remember from somewhere that they had 99 offspring. A lot, but as they lived for 900+ years with no TV I guess they had to do something to pass the time.
In that happy place with the wizards and pixies and fairy dust and chocolate trees and moon cheese.
No, I don't believe in the Bible. How could you tell?
Friend Computer
16-11-2004, 18:28
Who said the bible had to make sense?
I could feed my dog a Scrabble set and it'd crap out a more coherent religious text than that.
Sukafitz
16-11-2004, 18:31
That book says that Adam lived for 930 years and had other sons and
daughters; five altogether. Obviously there was some incest going on.
Other Incest found in Genesis, 19:30-38
After God saved Lot and most of his family from the destruction of Sodom &
Gomorrah, he went with his two daughters to live in a cave. His daughters
got their father drunk and had sex with the old guy so they could preserve
the seed of their father.
Genesis 19:36. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
The Jewish and Christian belief is pretty confused. I've heard several times
from religious nuts that Cain being marked meant that he was now a black
man.
I call bullshit!
Just read the danm book if you want to prove me wrong.
Andaluciae
16-11-2004, 18:34
All I have to say is I like Adam's odds with Eve!
Andaluciae
16-11-2004, 18:34
That's because the Khan's empire stretched from Poland to the very shores of Japan. He beat the hell out of everyone he came across.
Except the Poles and the Japanese!
La Terra di Liberta
16-11-2004, 18:35
Adam and Eve had girls who would have had sex with their sons. Hence, we are all related and all inbread. Comforting thought, isn't it?
Quentulus Qazgar
16-11-2004, 18:40
The guy had sex with a monkey perhaps? :fluffle:
Druthulhu
16-11-2004, 18:47
Except the Poles and the Japanese!
The Peter Principle as applied to conquest?
Hyakugoyjuuichi
16-11-2004, 18:50
take a look at how old these guys gets. Adam is 600 years old.. Genesis really isn't realiable until the time oe Noah, and that shows the bible shouldn't be taken too serisuly. Its not exactly what it says thats important, its the message every book is trying to get across thats worth reading it for.
Andaluciae
16-11-2004, 18:54
The Peter Principle as applied to conquest?
yeah, basically
Greedy Pig
16-11-2004, 19:39
I think during those times, the gene's were still more 'pure' than now.
Actually I think we are more directly related via Noah's family, rather than Adam and Eve.
PLus even till today, there's still lots of cousin-cousin marriages in 2nd and 3rd world countries.
People, the bible is a symbolic book, it don´t make sense because the guy who wrote it never tought that people would ACTUALLY think it was literall!
I imagine the guy writing "then adam and eve got kicked out of paradise" and thinking "well, they will know that this is a metaphor, right? ...right...? Oh... ... I think they will... I mean... no one is THAT dumb..."
Green israel
16-11-2004, 20:55
People, the bible is a symbolic book, it don´t make sense because the guy who wrote it never tought that people would ACTUALLY think it was literall!
I imagine the guy writing "then adam and eve got kicked out of paradise" and thinking "well, they will know that this is a metaphor, right? ...right...? Oh... ... I think they will... I mean... no one is THAT dumb..."
yes, maybe he think also: they know that the bible don't mean to say how to live, he just old laws book.
Angry Keep Left Signs
16-11-2004, 21:02
Reread it again, it said had "Other sons and daughters" . . . which means a lot of incest . . . :eek:
I'm sure there are web pages dedicated to bible incest stories. Not sure they'd help much with the conversation, they would be interesting to see though.
Sdaeriji
16-11-2004, 21:15
According to John Kerry its pronounced "Jhengis".
What an ass clown.
It is pronounced "Jhengis".
Druthulhu
16-11-2004, 21:26
yes, maybe he think also: they know that the bible don't mean to say how to live, he just old laws book.
The purpose of law is to tell you how to live. :)