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What do you think of Canadians??

Mystic Vikings
16-11-2004, 03:27
We Canadians are always taught that we are held in high esteem by the rest of the world... I've always thought that we're kind of arrogant in assuming so too. I would like to hear feedback from non-Canadians as to what you think of us. All the stereotypes that come to mind, all the stuff about our participation in the wars, anything and everything that you think of when you think of Canadians.
Roachsylvania
16-11-2004, 03:29
America Junior

Sorry, but that's what people in the U.S. think.
The Senates
16-11-2004, 03:29
They rock, eh?
Hammolopolis
16-11-2004, 03:31
Apparently they're very happy being America's hat.
(Stolen from Jon Stewart)
Florida Oranges
16-11-2004, 03:31
I think mostly aboot lumberjacks and pooblix when I think of Canada.
Mystic Vikings
16-11-2004, 03:31
America Junior

Sorry, but that's what people in the U.S. think.
meh, we like to pretend we aren't... but then again, not many Canadians would vote for Bush
Haxorzz
16-11-2004, 03:31
Honestly, I think we fly under most people's radar.
They know we're there, they just don't care.
Imperial Puerto Rico
16-11-2004, 03:32
From an American:

You guys are cool. The only stereotype we have of ya'll is that you put "eh" behind ever sentence and say "Aboot" instead of "About."

:)
Mystic Vikings
16-11-2004, 03:32
I think mostly aboot lumberjacks and pooblix when I think of Canada.
what's pooblix?
Mystic Vikings
16-11-2004, 03:34
this is all well and good, but what are your opinions about Canada's participation in WWI and WWII?
Roachsylvania
16-11-2004, 03:34
It's not really "aboot," it's more "a-ba-oot." They sorta put a short "a" sound before the vowel. Or maybe it's more of an "e." It's hard to describe, but if you ever watch any Canadian TV, you can tell.
Ashmoria
16-11-2004, 03:36
whats not to like?
Florida Oranges
16-11-2004, 03:36
what's pooblix?

Publix in Canadian. As for the world wars, down here in Florida they didn't teach us shit about the Canadians in the world wars. Hell, I didn't even know there was a Canada up until a couple weeks go.
Ravea
16-11-2004, 03:39
I like em. They seem a little nicer than the average American, and thier cities are clean. They do talk kinda funny, though.
Mystic Vikings
16-11-2004, 03:39
Publix in Canadian. As for the world wars, down here in Florida they didn't teach us shit about the Canadians in the world wars. Hell, I didn't even know there was a Canada up until a couple weeks go.
what do you learn about WWII anyway? I've always been interested in American education..
Guitar Muzic
16-11-2004, 03:40
From an American:

You guys are cool. The only stereotype we have of ya'll is that you put "eh" behind ever sentence and say "Aboot" instead of "About."

:)
Hm, Canadians....
(another American)
Don't really know enough to say....
I've got a questions, do you actually say "eh" all the time? Because every once in a while I go through "Canadian faze" where I say "eh" all the time. And aboot. I say that to.
Seriously the first thing I thought of is this stupid joke my brother keeps telling (I must have heard it 80 times within the last 5 days)

So when the Canadians were choosing their name they drew random letters out of a hat. The first letter was "C" so the person drawing called out "C, eh" and the guy who was writing it down wrote "Ca" The first guy drew another letter: "N" so he called out "N, eh" so then you have "Cana" Then "D" and "D eh" and then "Canada".
Anyway, I don't think that's what really happened. (I hope this won't affend anyone. It is just a joke, and anyway if my brother tells it one more time......)
Florida Oranges
16-11-2004, 03:41
I learned that if I want any real information about world history, I should stay away from American history textbooks.
Mystic Vikings
16-11-2004, 03:48
Hm, Canadians....
(another American)
Don't really know enough to say....
I've got a questions, do you actually say "eh" all the time? Because every once in a while I go through "Canadian faze" where I say "eh" all the time. And aboot. I say that to.
Seriously the first thing I thought of is this stupid joke my brother keeps telling (I must have heard it 80 times within the last 5 days)

So when the Canadians were choosing their name they drew random letters out of a hat. The first letter was "C" so the person drawing called out "C, eh" and the guy who was writing it down wrote "Ca" The first guy drew another letter: "N" so he called out "N, eh" so then you have "Cana" Then "D" and "D eh" and then "Canada".
Anyway, I don't think that's what really happened. (I hope this won't affend anyone. It is just a joke, and anyway if my brother tells it one more time......)

canadians only say 'eh' when an american is nearby, we like to confuse and confound you guys...

canada is a native american word meaning 'village' most of our provincial names are also taken from native american language... 'canada' was named Canada because the translators weren't that good...
Guitar Muzic
16-11-2004, 03:50
canadians only say 'eh' when an american is nearby, we like to confuse and confound you guys...

canada is a native american word meaning 'village' most of our provincial names are also taken from native american language... 'canada' was named Canada because the translators weren't that good...
Hm, interesting.
The Senates
16-11-2004, 03:51
The only Canadian I met who said "eh" at the end of practically every sentence was a park ranger in rural Ontario. (Man, that was the nightmare camping trip from hell, but Canada overall is cool.)
Mystic Vikings
16-11-2004, 03:51
and of course, we have quebec... a province comprised of french people, half of which is trying to seperate.

Here's what Canada has always been in my experience of living here, a while lot of groups that don't get along all the time, but somehow, we've made it this far without doing too many fragrantly stupid things. Hopefully we'll continue going on. (not that I said 'not too many'... actually we've made a whole lot of mistakes)
Keruvalia
16-11-2004, 03:58
I have not met all Canadians, so I wouldn't know.

I've liked the ones I've met. I think it's fun to play slack-jawed American and say, "Canada? Ooh! Say something in Canadian!" Canadians don't seem to have much sense of humor about that.

I'd also like to say thanks for sending us all your talented people. You can keep Celine Dion, though. I think she's gone over.
La Terra di Liberta
16-11-2004, 04:29
I am, of course, a Canadian and proud of it and when people say we are America Junior, well they're dead wrong. The people in the two countries think very differently than each other, have different values and beliefs, see the world differently etc. One British person said on a different website "I hate those damn Canadians, they mooch off us and the US" to which a Canadian replied "Canadas not the queen's b*tch anymore, so get over it."
Galliam
16-11-2004, 04:34
They cured diabetes in Canadians...

...Someday they'll be able to do real people.

I don't really care, you guys are fun to make fun of. We never feel genuinely influenced in any way by you. Nothing you do matters for much more than fodder for jokes. Nobody strait HATES you that I know though.
Thanlania
16-11-2004, 04:34
I have not met all Canadians, so I wouldn't know.

I've liked the ones I've met. I think it's fun to play slack-jawed American and say, "Canada? Ooh! Say something in Canadian!" Canadians don't seem to have much sense of humor about that.

I'd also like to say thanks for sending us all your talented people. You can keep Celine Dion, though. I think she's gone over.


No....please dear God no!!!


We just got rid of her....please....please....PLEASE KEEP HER!!!!!!!


/ahem :D
La Terra di Liberta
16-11-2004, 04:37
No....please dear God no!!!


We just got rid of her....please....please....PLEASE KEEP HER!!!!!!!


/ahem :D




Air Canada wants her to make another one of her "You and I were meant to fly" songs. :D.
Canaba v2
16-11-2004, 04:39
Politcal Message from a coding canadian....

/bush
The Holy Palatinate
16-11-2004, 04:52
Thoughts about Canada, in the order they arrived:
I love the smell of a burning white house in the morning....
My stomach rolled as I remember the photos from Dieppe.
Mounties, and a digression into Monty Python's Lumberjack song.
Remembered surfing the Canadian govt website on the Magnetic North Pole, back when I was wondering whether we could use it to maglev our way into space.
Wayne and Shuster (showing my age)
And then memories of the Canadians I've known, all of whom I've liked.

On reflection, yeah - I think most people I know have a pretty high opinion of Canadians. Those who are anti-US feel sorry for you and those who are pro-US treat you as allies (ditto the pro/anti French divide). And the smart alecks think that a Canadian is an American sans lobotomy.....
Elghinn
16-11-2004, 05:00
and of course, we have quebec... a province comprised of french people, half of which is trying to seperate.

Here's what Canada has always been in my experience of living here, a while lot of groups that don't get along all the time, but somehow, we've made it this far without doing too many fragrantly stupid things. Hopefully we'll continue going on. (not that I said 'not too many'... actually we've made a whole lot of mistakes)

Yes and Quebec will be free one day !
It's not that we don't like you, it's that we are very different and you don't seem to understand it and give us the tools to protect our culture and society.
Cosgrach
16-11-2004, 05:01
In all honesty I don't think too much about any foreign country.

As far as how schools teach history, I remember that most of my knowledge on WW2 came from reading on my own. Granted it's been awhile, but most of the history we were taught was pre-1900.
Eutrusca
16-11-2004, 05:08
We Canadians are always taught that we are held in high esteem by the rest of the world... I've always thought that we're kind of arrogant in assuming so too. I would like to hear feedback from non-Canadians as to what you think of us. All the stereotypes that come to mind, all the stuff about our participation in the wars, anything and everything that you think of when you think of Canadians.

I've been to Canada many times and always found Canadians to be kind and helpful, especially the female types. :)

As an American Army veteran, I somewhat resented the Canadian tendency to allow draft-dodgers and deserters to harbor there, but I don't think that's typical of most Canadians.

I love the Canadian wilderness and would want to live there permanently, if it weren't so damned cold all the time! Heh!

So by and large, I like Canada and think it's a pretty great place. :)
Ogiek
16-11-2004, 05:12
Top Ten Myths About Canada and Canadians


1. We live in igloos. We live in houses, and they are very well built houses.


2. Canadians do not have the same technology as Americans. Canadians have access to the same technology as Americans and the rest of the civilized world.

3. There is snow everywhere all year long. Anyone who has spent a summer in Vancouver, Toronto, or Montreal will strongly disagree with this.

4. We don't get the same movies Americans do. We get the same movies, on the same day, and our censorship is less severe. Furthermore, the Paramount theater in Montreal is the most attended and most lucrative movie theater in North-America.


5. Canada does not have a film industry. We have a thriving film industry, and many of the syndicated US TV shows, not to mention major studio motion pictures are filmed here. Canada is renowned to have some of the best production crews in the world.


6. Canadians all say "eh" and "aboot". Sure, some of us do, but Canada is a big country with many different people who speak many different languages with different dialects.


7. Everyone in Quebec speaks French. Although a large percentage of the Province's population is Francophone, there is also a large number of Anglophones and Allophones.


8. Canadians have less guns than Americans. Canadians have just as many, if not more; we just have less murder. If you want stats and figures, see Michael Moore's excellent documentary, Bowling for Columbine.


9. Canada's national sport is Hockey. Not true. While Hockey is very popular, and considered our national pastime, our national sport is Lacrosse. Oh, and we invented Baseball too.

10. Canadians policemen are all Mounties dressed in red uniforms. Our cops are the same as American cops.

http://www.canadians.ca/
Elghinn
16-11-2004, 05:33
7. Everyone in Quebec speaks French. Although a large percentage of the Province's population is Francophone, there is also a large number of Anglophones and Allophones.

More precisely, 15% of the Quebec population speaks french...
But there is also a large % of french people arround Canada who are being assimilate...
Andaluciae
16-11-2004, 05:35
They're people from up north, eh?
The Senates
16-11-2004, 05:36
I love Quebec, Montreal is my favorite Canadian city. I didn't speak French very well the first time I went there, and everyone was really nice about my lousy pronunciation and happy to correct me without laughing.
Slap Happy Lunatics
16-11-2004, 05:40
We Canadians are always taught that we are held in high esteem by the rest of the world... I've always thought that we're kind of arrogant in assuming so too. I would like to hear feedback from non-Canadians as to what you think of us. All the stereotypes that come to mind, all the stuff about our participation in the wars, anything and everything that you think of when you think of Canadians.
I have heard it reported that relative to most Americans they are , um . . . thrifty. Mind you that is only from waiting staff.
Blood Wolf tribe
16-11-2004, 05:40
:upyours: that is such bull shit!!!! USA has way more guns than CA!! and michael moore is a fatass liar!!! also, bowling for columbine was not a documentary because it was totally one sided.
Ogiek
16-11-2004, 05:42
:upyours: that is such bull shit!!!! USA has way more guns than CA!! and michael moore is a fatass liar!!! also, bowling for columbine was not a documentary because it was totally one sided.


Documentaries do not have to be balanced (in fact most aren't).

Given the level of anger you display on a relatively mild thread I hope you aren't one of the people who owns a gun.

Chill, brother.
Slap Happy Lunatics
16-11-2004, 05:42
canadians only say 'eh' when an american is nearby, we like to confuse and confound you guys...

canada is a native american word meaning 'village' most of our provincial names are also taken from native american language... 'canada' was named Canada because the translators weren't that good...
You mean to say the translator said, "Kanad . . . eh?
Andaluciae
16-11-2004, 05:43
Well, Bowling was a documentary, and it was funny. Fahrenheit was neither. Fahrenheit sucked. And as to Michael Moore's status as a liar, I'd suspect that he's told about as many lies as everyone else on the planet. Most of his probably have to do with sugared donuts and the doctor though.
Slap Happy Lunatics
16-11-2004, 05:47
I am, of course, a Canadian and proud of it and when people say we are America Junior, well they're dead wrong. The people in the two countries think very differently than each other, have different values and beliefs, see the world differently etc. S N I P
People in New York City "think very differently than each other, have different values and beliefs, see the world differently" than people 100 miles north of us. What does that prove?


JUST JOKING! ;)
Glinde Nessroe
16-11-2004, 05:49
Canadians have a wider spread general interest in the rest of the world, (Unlike america). Canadians are said to be alot like Australians and we go well in each others counrties due to similar laws etc.
Slap Happy Lunatics
16-11-2004, 05:50
Yes and Quebec will be free one day !
It's not that we don't like you, it's that we are very different and you don't seem to understand it and give us the tools to protect our culture and society.
Cripes! They gave you French as a required language! What more do you want? Crepes Suzette in bed?
Kanabia
16-11-2004, 05:53
Canadians have a wider spread general interest in the rest of the world, (Unlike america). Canadians are said to be alot like Australians and we go well in each others counrties due to similar laws etc.

Yup, Australia and Canada are like "cousins" as it were.
Blood Wolf tribe
16-11-2004, 05:59
Documentaries do not have to be balanced (in fact most aren't).

Given the level of anger you display on a relatively mild thread I hope you aren't one of the people who owns a gun.

Chill, brother.i own several guns thank you very much. and the only reason i get so pissed is because i dont appreciate you slamming the good old USA. i dont know how you canadians deal with yer taxes :rolleyes:
New Scott-land
16-11-2004, 06:04
i own several guns thank you very much. and the only reason i get so pissed is because i dont appreciate you slamming the good old USA. i dont know how you canadians deal with yer taxes :rolleyes:

Cause it all goes to a good cause, like our quite useful healthcare and education systems.
Falklenburg
16-11-2004, 06:05
We Canadians are always taught that we are held in high esteem by the rest of the world... I've always thought that we're kind of arrogant in assuming so too. I would like to hear feedback from non-Canadians as to what you think of us. All the stereotypes that come to mind, all the stuff about our participation in the wars, anything and everything that you think of when you think of Canadians.

The America Junior answer isn't far from the mark, as we share a lot of similarities. Large counttires with no immediate thrweat on our borders, democratic societies, continuing flow of immigrants that are integrated "resonably" well into each society. the cultural differences between the US and Canada are no more extreme than say California and Louisianna. Oh and Canada seems to have a disproportionate amount of Comedians/Comic actors.
Canada is certainly one of the nicest countries and exerts a politcal and economic influence well out of proportion to is population numbers. Canada seems to have a bit of a complex about the US, which is understandable as we are 10 times your size (pop and econ) and anything that hits us would most likely effect you. Canada maintains an admirable sense of independence, no doubt from whipping the US in the last two wars fought. M thats about it

this is all well and good, but what are your opinions about Canada's participation in WWI and WWII?

Don;t know a lot about Canadian participation in WWI, assume they served in the BEF. did they have their own general officers? I know the Assies had Brits over them. The Canadian Air corp have several excellent pilots if I recall correctly, oither than that I don;t know.

WWII? Hmm the Brits screwed you at Dieppe, had your own beach at Normandy (Juneau I believe) and the third largest army on the western front. A combined American/Canadian unit called the Devil Brigade fought in Italy (Saw the movie..but read snipits that it was based on reality). Have alos read that the Canadians were concidered the best infantry.
Unfree People
16-11-2004, 06:06
i own several guns thank you very much. and the only reason i get so pissed is because i dont appreciate you slamming the good old USA. i dont know how you canadians deal with yer taxes :rolleyes:
There does need to be a bit of calming down in this thread.

Unfree People
Forum Moderator
Blood Wolf tribe
16-11-2004, 06:08
when i think of canada, i think of peace love'n hippies and a messed up health system.
Midlands
16-11-2004, 06:08
We Canadians are always taught that we are held in high esteem by the rest of the world...

I'm rolling on the floor, laughing... Seriously, folks, how can anyone possibly hold in high esteem the only nation in the world without any positive national identity and whose only identity is defined purely negatively as "We are not Americans!"?! I don't mean to dump on you, but hey, I dislike the French even more (much more), however if you ask them what it means to be French, they'll talk about the Gauls, Charlemagne, Napoleon, the Mongolfier brothers, the Lumier brothers, history, literature, arts, science, French language, food, wine etc., but it will never occur to them to say "we are not the Germans!". Not so with the Canadians - ask them and you'll just basically hear numerous ways in which Canada is different from the US (and mostly - and proudly - define Canada as a nation with "free" health care, after which declaration they'll promptly leave for their appointment at an American doctor's office :-).
Asarwak
16-11-2004, 06:10
I'm an Australian and over here we tend to think very highly of Canada.
I think the countries are similar in a number of ways
-large county with few people, that mostly populate a large thin stretch of land
-federated westminster style democracy
-commonwealth members
-both of us trash the english language almost as badly as the poms...
Blood Wolf tribe
16-11-2004, 06:10
Cause it all goes to a good cause, like our quite useful healthcare and education systems.i pitty your healthcare system.
Buben
16-11-2004, 06:12
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9. Canada's national sport is Hockey. Not true. While Hockey is very popular, and considered our national pastime, our national sport is Lacrosse. Oh, and we invented Baseball too.

Did we really invent baseball, I thought that was america...
I know for certain that basketball was invented by a canadian
Blood Wolf tribe
16-11-2004, 06:14
There does need to be a bit of calming down in this thread.

Unfree People
Forum Moderatorwhat can i say? you said you wanted an opinion.
Asarwak
16-11-2004, 06:14
I'm rolling on the floor, laughing... Seriously, folks, how can anyone possibly hold in high esteem the only nation in the world without any positive national identity and whose only identity is defined purely negatively as "We are not Americans!"?! I don't mean to dump on you, but hey, I dislike the French even more (much more), however if you ask them what it means to be French, they'll talk about the Gauls, Charlemagne, Napoleon, the Mongolfier brothers, the Lumier brothers, history, literature, arts, science, French language, food, wine etc., but it will never occur to them to say "we are not the Germans!". Not so with the Canadians - ask them and you'll just basically hear numerous ways in which Canada is different from the US (and mostly - and proudly - define Canada as a nation with "free" health care, after which declaration they'll promptly leave for their appointment at an American doctor's office :-).


No, I think Australia is also lacking national identity.

and I cant imagine a Canadian needing to go to a US doctor.
Legit Business
16-11-2004, 06:15
america and canada are alot like coke and pepsi cola

they have different packaging for their products (healthcare) but you poor them into a glass and they look the same.

HOWEVER

you gulp them down and they taste just a little bit different,

like pulp fiction with "its the little differences" "royale wit' cheese"
Zincite
16-11-2004, 06:23
You're certainly held in high esteem by the half of America that was disenfranchised in 2000 and utterly horrified two weeks ago. In fact, some of us are planning on moving up north with you. The rest of us are either lazy, under 18, or figure the more of us leave the fewer are left to keep fighting the good fight. Or we liked France better.

Like that other person said, though, I think a lot of this is that you do fly under peoples' radar. Your main source of "high esteem" and righteous-in-my-opinion pride is that you manage to be a highly developed country without pissing anyone off. That's quite some restraint - or maybe you just don't have as many nuts that think it's our business to convert the rest of the world to democracy. Anyway... don't be arrogant, but do be proud.
Unfree People
16-11-2004, 06:24
what can i say? you said you wanted an opinion.Hmmm? The only reason I've posted in this thread is to ask people to be nicer to each other.

Ogiek, you've managed to flame him back, that's not very appropriate either.

Unfree People
Forum Moderator
Legit Business
16-11-2004, 06:24
?????

What the hell are you talking about? Look over this thread. Lots of people slamming Canada, but I don't see people going after the U.S.

But what if they did?

The U.S. is the 800lb gorilla sitting on the world's porch, consuming most of the world's resources, creating most of the world's pollution, selling most of the world's weapons, and spending almost as much on "defense" as the rest of the world combined, but let anyone utter the tiniest criticism of the U.S. and insecure, crybaby Americans start falling all over themselves about how much the world hates America.

Boo-hoo. You are like some rejected lover on Oprah. Do you love me? Do you still love me?

Of course if knuckle draggers, such as yourself, would travel outside your borders you would realize that most of the rest of the world actually admires and respects Americans...they just aren't ready to drop to their knees and genuflect.

if we are creating most of the worlds population then dont we need most of the reasources, what do you suggest we stop making babies. and also i want more than one car in my garage because i can. and if you dont like it i say we need the instant invasion of canada to let you all know who the most badass sob is
Ogiek
16-11-2004, 06:28
Hmmm? The only reason I've posted in this thread is to ask people to be nicer to each other.

Ogiek, you've managed to flame him back, that's not very appropriate either.

Unfree People
Forum Moderator

I apologize and will withdraw the post.
The Senates
16-11-2004, 06:28
if we are creating most of the worlds populationExcept that we're not. Try China.

and also i want more than one car in my garage because i canExcellent. I want to dump garbage all over the earth because I can. I want to chop down trees and dump waste in the oceans and emit thousands of tons of Carbon Dioxide into the atmosphere because I can. I want to fuck everything up, because I can...

and if you dont like it i say we need the instant invasion of canada to let you all know who the most badass sob isSweet, agree with you or die! What a highly intelligent way to express opinions!
Legit Business
16-11-2004, 06:33
Except that we're not. Try China.

Excellent. I want to dump garbage all over the earth because I can. I want to chop down trees and dump waste in the oceans and emit thousands of tons of Carbon Dioxide into the atmosphere because I can. I want to fuck everything up, because I can...

Sweet, agree with you or die! What a highly intelligent way to express opinions!

i said IF we are creating most of the population

if you own the land you can do what you want with it chop it burn it whatever.

and if we kill everyone who messes with us then nobody will have th balls to diagree
The Senates
16-11-2004, 06:38
i said IF we are creating most of the population

if you own the land you can do what you want with it chop it burn it whatever.

and if we kill everyone who messes with us then nobody will have th balls to diagree
Um. I'm glad you admit we're not creating most of the population and therefore do not automatically deserve the disproportionate amount of resources we consume.

If you own the land and ruin it, you're fucking everyone's life up in the next generations. That's selfish and fundamentally wrong.
Roma Islamica
16-11-2004, 06:38
Well, I guess Canadians are held in decent esteem, but, probably not as much as you think. You are like someone else said "America Junior", except with none of the military might. Canada is still under Britain, and is not a nuclear power. People look to you as a decent nation, a great place to live, but not as anything that could EVER be threatening, and therefore you aren't the center of attention you think you are. The US, France, Britain, Germany, etc. are more prominent on the international scene than Canada. China, India, Japan are some others that are above Canada. LOL, you're right Canadians are arrogant, though so are all of those other countries above you, the US included. I guess the only thing is, Canada has no military might to back it up.
Ogiek
16-11-2004, 06:39
if we kill everyone who messes with us then nobody will have the balls to diagree

Now was that Stalin, Hitler, or Mao who originally said that?
Legit Business
16-11-2004, 06:41
Um. I'm glad you admit we're not creating most of the population and therefore do not automatically deserve the disproportionate amount of resources we consume.

If you own the land and ruin it, you're fucking everyone's life up in the next generations. That's selfish and fundamentally wrong.

wrong says who you. dont you try and curtail my civil liberties. you lefty commi pinko. i can do what i want when i want and ill drive my surburban and burn as much gas as i can, your just like mike moore and your anti gun crusade
Legit Business
16-11-2004, 06:45
Now was that Stalin, Hitler, or Mao who originally said that?

may have been bush i think he gives off that vibe, he thinks hes a bit of a cowboy
Canad a
16-11-2004, 06:51
I am Canadian. And well, I think very low of my people since most are arrogant and claim victory over the War of 1812. It was a war not only between the United States and Great Britain but was a great war between Prussia, France, and Great Britain. The United States didn't play a great deal, they just told the French that they'd cause the Brits trouble. In the end, Canadians nor the Americans won. The most successful are between the three European powers.

Thirdly, we are no longer active in the international community as we did in the 1970s to late 1980s. After the Mulroney Government, Canada's peacekeeping/making forces where cut and military funding decreased until recently. Our Government lies when it says we have 'free healthcare', nothing is free in a quasi-Socialist Capitalist government which Canada is true to be. We still have to pay for medical insurance, which I find pathetic.
Mindstaristan
16-11-2004, 06:52
It seems to me (as a canadian) that we spend an awful lot of time asking people what they think of/ know about us. It gets to the point where we're like that needy girl who didn't get asked to the prom and bores her friends to tears fishing for compliments afterwards when all they really want to say to her is "why didn't YOU ask someone?"

As for a cohesive national identity, I would argue that our multilateral approach to international affairs, our (eroding) concern with public welfare and supports, our history as a mosaic society (rather than a melting pot), our progressive social policies (gay rights, drug laws, the fact that we don't put all of our black people in prisons), combined with several public institutions and rituals (CBC, HNIC, The Grey Cup, Curling, Lacrosse, and the general more european bent of such things (RUGBY!)), our unique vernacular, and a sense of geography bind us together in the common myth of Canadianess. That and our inferiority complex.

All any society has is the myths it tells itself to bind it together. And that's what they are; myths.
The Senates
16-11-2004, 06:58
wrong says who you. dont you try and curtail my civil liberties. you lefty commi pinko. i can do what i want when i want and ill drive my surburban and burn as much gas as i can, your just like mike moore and your anti gun crusade
A few brain cells seriously died when I read your post. I'm killing a lot more by replying to it.

First, I don't consider 'pinko commie' an insult. Second, land usage rights have NOTHING to do with 'civil liberties'. Third, I never said the words 'gun' or 'Moore' in any of my posts on this thread.
Ice Hockey Players
16-11-2004, 06:59
I recently took a weekend trip up to Niagara Falls and was amazed by how friendly everyone was up there...I was also amazed by how easy it was to get lost on the U.S. side of the border as well as once we got over to Canada. Of course, Niagara Falls is sort of like a demo version of Canada, I imagine...it's clean, really nice, scenic, and my hotel room had a hell of a view. It looked down at the Falls itself...and at night, they were lit up. It was absolutely spectacular, even if it was the offseson...which was cool because they threw in two expensive breakfasts for two (myself and my girlfriend, of course...the honorable Queen of Apples and Bununus) and one really expensive dinner at the hotel restaurant. There's still something about looking out your window while you're eating breakfast and seeing Niagara Falls.

Truthfully, I always thought of Canadians as friendly. I am sure many more of them are...per capita, anyway...than Americans. I would move to Canada some time...not because I voted for Kerry, but because Ontario's a hell of a lot nicer of a place to call home than Ohio, in my opinion. Besides, what does the U.S. have that can top Niagara Falls? Maybe the Grand Canyon, but for me, Niagara's closer anyway...
Mindstaristan
16-11-2004, 07:01
I am Canadian. And well, I think very low of my people since most are arrogant and claim victory over the War of 1812.

more of that post prom whining is what it is. no one with a brain would dare claim that Canada could decisively win a war with the US

Thirdly, we are no longer active in the international community as we did in the 1970s to late 1980s. After the Mulroney Government, Canada's peacekeeping/making forces where cut and military funding decreased until recently.

Ah, but international involvement is not merely measured with a gun my fellow canuck. Multilateral agreements brokered and supported by Canada are still happening, though maybe not as frequently as either of us would like?


Our Government lies when it says we have 'free healthcare', nothing is free in a quasi-Socialist Capitalist government which Canada is true to be. We still have to pay for medical insurance, which I find pathetic.

We have free basic healthcare, and in order to fund the system, those that can, are asked to purchase healthcare premiums. We do, however have universal basic coverage...for now.
Hyraphornia
16-11-2004, 07:37
hmmm... so far, all Americans can say is that:

1) Our military is better than yours

2) Your health care sucks

3) your tax system sucks

4) no one cares about you

5) we could invade you if we wanted to

6) We could shoot you all too.


Is it just me, or does every american who has posted here against Canada have some "Bully" tendencies, and is trying to make up for their own shortcomings?

Note, i said, only those who have posted here against Canada. I love America, and some American ladies. Woo. :fluffle:
Ogiek
16-11-2004, 07:41
Is it just me, or does every american who has posted here against Canada have some "Bully" tendencies, and is trying to make up for their own shortcomings?

"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Never has there been a country more powerful than the United States in the 21st century.
Sakido
16-11-2004, 07:48
Well i don't remember what the name of the comedian is who said this, but, "Their national symbol is a leaf. Don't fuck with Canada, or they'll... dry up and blow away."

I'm just kidding. I don't have anything against Canadians. I've got friends from there. I think they're kind of funny actually.
Cosgrach
16-11-2004, 07:55
Is it just me, or does every american who has posted here against Canada have some "Bully" tendencies, and is trying to make up for their own shortcomings?

Note, i said, only those who have posted here against Canada.

heh I'm not sure why you think indifference is a "bully" tendency, or that I'm posting against Canada. I didn't write that to put down Canada or Canadians, I simply don't care. If it makes you feel better I care as much or more about Canada than I do about Wyoming. ;)
Kerotan
16-11-2004, 08:11
I'm from England.

My personal perception of Canada is 'It's pretty much the same as America, but less people, cleaner and bit more diplomatic'
Yammo
16-11-2004, 08:34
There are 2 main differences between Australia and Canada

1. The Weather.

2. There is no way on earth that an Aussie would have a clothing label called "Roots Kids" ;)
Canad a
16-11-2004, 10:45
The Canadian people however did protect their borders successfully from American invasions over decades prior to Confederation. Though however, in current day we do not have military might and personnel in total that can hold our national capital within fifteen minutes.

Our government has been signing multilateral agreements that are unnessecary or we don't have the enough resources to comply to our duties as the world's peace keepers. The Liberal Government is responsible for the sell out of our great vast nation. I demand we have an active role, all we do is now sit on the side lines, offer financial aid or a pat on the back for our allies but we are still not helping them in the time of need.

Yes we have to buy premiums but our government propagates to us that our healthcare system is a free one, nothing is free in a capitalist government.
Smiggins Hole
16-11-2004, 10:59
canada kicked the US's arse in the war of 1812. If they didnt how did they manage to burn down the white house??? :headbang:
JuNii
16-11-2004, 11:01
We Canadians are always taught that we are held in high esteem by the rest of the world... I've always thought that we're kind of arrogant in assuming so too. I would like to hear feedback from non-Canadians as to what you think of us. All the stereotypes that come to mind, all the stuff about our participation in the wars, anything and everything that you think of when you think of Canadians.Honestly? I think of Canadians as Good Friends to our North. No... Really... I Do.
New Fuglies
16-11-2004, 11:12
Most American bald eagles are Canadian. :D
Deeelo
16-11-2004, 11:34
I don't know any Canadians. The Canadians I've met on the internet do seem to have a strong tendancy toward these What do you think of Canadians? threads, I think it's a little strange. As far as Canadian involvement in world affairs goes, you seem to say a great deal and do very little. When Canadians are directly involved in things they seem to try to take a great deal of credit. I've always thought of Canadians and Americans as being very similar. In both good and not so good ways.
Sinuhue
16-11-2004, 21:53
:upyours: that is such bull shit!!!! USA has way more guns than CA!! and michael moore is a fatass liar!!! also, bowling for columbine was not a documentary because it was totally one sided.

i own several guns thank you very much. and the only reason i get so pissed is because i dont appreciate you slamming the good old USA. i dont know how you canadians deal with yer taxes

How is saying that Canadians own more guns than Americans slamming the US? We haven't even STARTED U.S bashing yet.
Joey P
16-11-2004, 22:19
I love hockey and Molson (export ale and triple x). Therefore I love canada.
Takuma
16-11-2004, 23:02
I'm Canadian....

We rock! But the US is good too! And Australia!
Calm Minds
16-11-2004, 23:07
From an American:

You guys are cool. The only stereotype we have of ya'll is that you put "eh" behind ever sentence and say "Aboot" instead of "About."

:)

the proper use of eh
the very canada "eh" is only use after a statment that we would like a reply to
a canadian says, cold weather eh
what we are saying, cold weather dont you think
New Scott-land
16-11-2004, 23:11
In theory at least we're concerned what our international rep is. We could be like the US and say who cares? We'll frick it all anyways.

Australia and Canada are both awesome places to go. I've been in both for extended periods of times, and both are very nice.

Just as a note though.
It's implausible to think that the USA could easily take (Enter Clause here:) And HOLD Canada.

I'd like to think the International Community would step in, and, considering the trouble with Iraq you had, how would you do in a country that is bigger, More populated, and with a higher technology level? It'd be practically impossible to police our country.
Freedomfrize
16-11-2004, 23:18
(just throwing the first things that come to my mind) - I have the image of a large country with plenty of space where everything is broad and clean, beautiful nature, good social system, likeable people with civilised values. And it's friggin' cold there. :)
Zouloukistan
16-11-2004, 23:19
I'm Canadian, and I think that Canada and Australia are good countries. However, I don't like the diplomacy of the USA (a little too... bloody... )
Calm Minds
16-11-2004, 23:20
More precisely, 15% of the Quebec population speaks french...
But there is also a large % of french people arround Canada who are being assimilate...

only half right 15% of people in quebec only speak french, its cloes to 75% of people are biligual and one is french
Freedomfrize
16-11-2004, 23:20
... oh and I was forgetting the excellent health system of course.
Zouloukistan
16-11-2004, 23:20
(just throwing the first things that come to my mind) - I have the image of a large country with plenty of space where everything is broad and clean, beautiful nature, good social system, likeable people with civilised values. And it's friggin' cold there. :)
everyone I know who never came here thinks like that
Ikaalistania
16-11-2004, 23:22
From an european perspective... Canadians are the north american good guys where USA represents the evil. Still, I believe most people don't know how great differencies there are between those two countries.
Freedomfrize
16-11-2004, 23:22
everyone I know who never came here thinks like that
lol! True, I never visited. And what do people who went there think?
Canad a
16-11-2004, 23:22
Canada did not kick anyones ass in the War of 1812. We may have burnt down the White House and the rest of Washington, D.C.; however, it it was our people did in retailation when the Americans burnt down York which was our capital at the time. We may have repeled American invasions, all we won was freedom from our nation being run by the people to the south. You need to take history.

You see Molson Canadian is no longer Canadian owned it is now currently owned by an American Alcohol Company. One thing that once held great symbolism of Canadian nationalism is now American. Soon they'll have commericals going, 'I am. American.'
Calm Minds
16-11-2004, 23:23
i own several guns thank you very much. and the only reason i get so pissed is because i dont appreciate you slamming the good old USA. i dont know how you canadians deal with yer taxes :rolleyes:
free heathcare, cheeper post secondary schools, cheeper drugs to name a few we pay more in taxes but then we dont pay out more in our daily lives
New Scott-land
16-11-2004, 23:25
all we won was freedom from our nation being run by the people to the south.

I'd say that in and of itself was worth fighting for. Especially considering the last four years. :rolleyes:
Canad a
16-11-2004, 23:33
free heathcare, cheeper post secondary schools, cheeper drugs to name a few we pay more in taxes but then we dont pay out more in our daily lives

Calm Minds, reality check for you - the Canadian Healthcare is not free at all -we have to pay for premiums explained earlier in this topic. Our education maybe cheaper right now but the price is increasing all over the nation in post secondary institutes.

You see. The Canadian culture is pretty much drying up dialects in Nova Scotia are being depleted. The media is 85 to 90% American.
The Abomination
16-11-2004, 23:34
As a Brit, I'm proud to feel that in some way we contributed to Canada.

Canada is what America would have been like if King George hadn't been actually insane and had accepted the request for parliamentary seats and reduced trade taxes.

Independent, peaceful, respected, rich and with beautiful scenery.
Willamena
16-11-2004, 23:37
As a Brit, I'm proud to feel that in some way we contributed to Canada.

Canada is what America would have been like if King George hadn't been actually insane and had accepted the request for parliamentary seats and reduced trade taxes.

Independent, peaceful, respected, rich and with beautiful scenery.
On behalf of Canada, thank you.

And thanks to Queen Victoria, whose birthday still gives us an excuse for a day off work.
Canad a
16-11-2004, 23:37
You see if the British did not allow Canada to grow more independant from the British Empire, we would abandon our forms of diplomacy and use the same tactics that the Americans used during their War of Independence.
Calm Minds
16-11-2004, 23:38
"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Never has there been a country more powerful than the United States in the 21st century.

dude the 21st century is only 4 years old give it some time before making comments like that, its bad carma
Dobbs Town
16-11-2004, 23:46
America Junior

Sorry, but that's what people in the U.S. think.

May the Simpsons rot in Hell for throwing that particular non-thought into the collective American subconscious. It's as blitheringly stupid as calling Mexico 'Spain Junior'.
Calm Minds
16-11-2004, 23:46
Calm Minds, reality check for you - the Canadian Healthcare is not free at all -we have to pay for premiums explained earlier in this topic. Our education maybe cheaper right now but the price is increasing all over the nation in post secondary institutes.

You see. The Canadian culture is pretty much drying up dialects in Nova Scotia are being depleted. The media is 85 to 90% American.

i pay $20 a month(it pays to be poor) its better then paying for a $5000 operation, its not free but i dont feel the hit to my check book
Siljhouettes
16-11-2004, 23:54
I've been to Canada and the people seem to combine what is best about Americans, British and French (well, dunno about the French bit ;)).

this is all well and good, but what are your opinions about Canada's participation in WWI and WWII?
Underrated.
Siljhouettes
16-11-2004, 23:58
[B][SIZE=4]7. Everyone in Quebec speaks French. Although a large percentage of the Province's population is Francophone, there is also a large number of Anglophones and Allophones.
Allophones? German speakers?
Minas Mordred
17-11-2004, 00:04
Go Canada. We invented hockey, bacon, igloos and good beer.
Minas Mordred
17-11-2004, 00:06
I've been to Canada and the people seem to combine what is best about Americans, British and French (well, dunno about the French bit ;)).


Underrated.


Thank you canada's participation was excellent. in ww1 we sent over 600,000 men. Largest army sent to a war in history at that time.

i like to notice how my nieghbors to the south were fashionably late again..... hahah jk.
Calm Minds
17-11-2004, 00:06
Go Canada. We invented hockey, bacon, igloos and good beer.


mmmmmmmmm beer and bacon i know what im having for supper
Dorfl
17-11-2004, 00:14
665 neighbour of the beast
The Holy Palatinate
18-11-2004, 05:50
I'm rolling on the floor, laughing... Seriously, folks, how can anyone possibly hold in high esteem the only nation in the world without any positive national identity and whose only identity is defined purely negatively as "We are not Americans!"?!
Hmmm - and tell me, who was it who said 'The first thing any American should learn to say in a foreign language is "don't shoot, I'm a Canadian!"'?


No, I think Australia is also lacking national identity.

Yeah right. We can go anywhere in the world and have the locals immediately ID us, but no outsider can tell the difference between the different Aussie states. We have a single dialect covering a continent. Our entertainers riddle the American and British industry...sure we're lacking a national identity!
Why don't you turn the question on it's head, and ask what is required for a national identity? You might be surprised as to where the question leads you.
Andaluciae
18-11-2004, 05:56
I'd say once again that they're from up North of the lakes. I've seen a couple down south of the lakes, but not a whole lot.

I think they're a generally nice group.
The Holy Palatinate
18-11-2004, 05:58
Canada is what America would have been like if King George hadn't been actually insane and had accepted the request for parliamentary seats and reduced trade taxes.

The taxes were to pay for a war the American colonies had demanded that Britain fight; the parliamentary seats were to block the anti-slavery legislation triggered by the constitutional rulings of the English Courts. If Britain had buckled to the colonial demands the US civil war would have covered the entire British Empire - or, alternatively, slavery would still be legal. Either way, the world would be a much uglier place.
Poor old George was insane, but the advice he was given wasn't. No, probably what happened was for the best - with the 'loss' of the American colonies the empire continued the peaceful abolishment of slavery leaving the US to deal with the matter in their own fashion.
Free Gaelic States
18-11-2004, 16:19
i own several guns thank you very much. and the only reason i get so pissed is because i dont appreciate you slamming the good old USA. i dont know how you canadians deal with yer taxes :rolleyes:

Actually, the US is a great country with a lot to admire. I think that when we get down to it, myself and most other canadians beleive this. Please don't think that because we disagree with your government policy, we hate your country. Most of us gripe about our policys too, but we still love Canada.
Free Gaelic States
18-11-2004, 16:28
i pitty your healthcare system.

Why? We only pay about 2,500 US per capita every year, while americans pay about 4,000 US. And everyone here is covered, unlike the approximately 40 million americans woh have no coverage at all? How is this worse than the american system?
Stroudiztan
18-11-2004, 16:55
WWII? Hmm the Brits screwed you at Dieppe, had your own beach at Normandy (Juneau I believe) and the third largest army on the western front. A combined American/Canadian unit called the Devil Brigade fought in Italy (Saw the movie..but read snipits that it was based on reality). Have alos read that the Canadians were concidered the best infantry.

We also had some pretty bitchin' combat engineers.
Rasados
18-11-2004, 18:15
um a better america?thats how i see canada.america filled with a majority of dems....mmm blueness.you got mostly the same media,the same products.but your not psycho neocon christian fundamentalists. :sniper:
Ogiek
18-11-2004, 22:54
Okay, so you probably heard this before:

"Canada could have had French culture, American know-how, and English government. Instead it got French government, English know-how, and American culture." (John Colombo)
Ogiek
18-11-2004, 22:55
Okay, so you probably heard this before:

"Canada could have had French culture, American know-how, and English government. Instead it got French government, English know-how, and American culture." (John Colombo)

I think this is a take off on the old joke about Europeans:

In Heaven, the English are the police, the Swiss are the bankers, the French are the cooks, the Italians are the lovers and the Germans are the mechanics. In Hell, the English are the cooks, the Swiss are the lovers, the French are the mechanics, the Italians are the bankers and the Germans are the police.
Nicod
18-11-2004, 22:59
Nice people, living in a watered down liberal tyranny, and who think there is no evil in the world (except those who would fight it).

Best,

The Emperor of Nicod
The SARS Monkeys
18-11-2004, 23:44
The Canadians helped us a whole lot on D-day. Had an entire beach. Thanks from an American. BTW, do Canadians always have eh at the end of their sentences.
New Shiron
18-11-2004, 23:52
We Canadians are always taught that we are held in high esteem by the rest of the world... I've always thought that we're kind of arrogant in assuming so too. I would like to hear feedback from non-Canadians as to what you think of us. All the stereotypes that come to mind, all the stuff about our participation in the wars, anything and everything that you think of when you think of Canadians.

I am a big fan of Moosehead Bear, Canada's best import to the US (other than cheap prescription meds).

Also, thanks for Peter Jennings, a whole slew of actors and actresses, and for putting up with Quebec so we don't have to.
Ragbralbur
19-11-2004, 02:47
A word on the War of 1812:

The United States declared war on Great Britain. This put them in a position where they were the agressors. Their form of agression was to attack Canada. As the aggressors, they needed to take land to be considered the winner of the war. As defenders, we needed only to repel invasion, and we did. The Treaty of Ghent showed this. Prewar conditions returned to normal. The result was that the aggressor took no land. This means the aggressor lost the war. As such, the War of 1812 was an American loss and thus a British, or in our case Canadian victory.
Stroudiztan
19-11-2004, 02:55
The Canadians helped us a whole lot on D-day. Had an entire beach. Thanks from an American. BTW, do Canadians always have eh at the end of their sentences.

And thanks to you for your country's work in the war as well. As for the Eh thing, we all *can* do it, but some elect not to, I guess. I embrace it. It's like having a little Canadian flag tacked onto the end of everything I say.
Clontopia
19-11-2004, 02:56
this is all well and good, but what are your opinions about Canada's participation in WWI and WWII?

In the US public schools we where taught(in my day) that American single handely saved the world in both wwI and wwII.
Clontopia
19-11-2004, 02:58
In the US public schools we where taught(in my day) that American single handely saved the world in both wwI and wwII.

BTW I know it is not true. I just wanted to let you know what I was taught. I learned the truth, That we had alot of help, In colledge histroy class
Jenrak
19-11-2004, 03:15
Yeah........Canada......
Crazy there.....but nice.
Communist Opressors
19-11-2004, 03:23
WRETCHED CANADIAN SCUM!!!!!! THEY MUST ALL DIE!!!!!!!!!!!![/sarcasm] Seriously, Canada to me has always been our quiet peaceful neighbor to the north. i would LOL when ever i heard the phrase "Canadian Military might" (which i actualy did once). Over all they'r a nice country, a little cold and a little hockey obsessed but cool. Less crime too.
The Coral Islands
19-11-2004, 03:51
Allophones? German speakers?


Actually, Allophone is a special Canadian word invented to mean "a person who does not speak either French or English as her/his mother tongue".

Breathe Deep, Seek Peace, God Bless!
Principal Kie Turtlecrest
Principality Of The Coral Islands
http://pciweb.tripod.com

P.S.: I am a Canadian in Real Life, and very happy to be so. When I think of Canada; I think of a former Prime Minister of ours, Lester B. Pearson, who participated in the conference that led to the creation of the UN. He also came up with the wonderful idea of Peacekeeping (My Dad was a Peacekeeper!). I also think of John Peters Humphrey, who wrote the Universal Declaration Of Human Rights. Canada is in the lucky position of being a country that got her independance by asking politely. Basically, I think of us as lovers of peace. Just think; the Canadian equivalent of "Liberty, Fraternity, and Equality" or "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" is "Peace, Order, and Good Government"!
Viking Yak Herders
20-11-2004, 04:46
WRETCHED CANADIAN SCUM!!!!!! THEY MUST ALL DIE!!!!!!!!!!!![/sarcasm] Seriously, Canada to me has always been our quiet peaceful neighbor to the north. i would LOL when ever i heard the phrase "Canadian Military might" (which i actualy did once). Over all they'r a nice country, a little cold and a little hockey obsessed but cool. Less crime too.
every canadian soldier has training equivalent to a US navy seal, we don't have much, but what we got is good
Viking Yak Herders
20-11-2004, 04:57
[QUOTE=Roma Islamica]Canada is still under Britain, and is not a nuclear power. QUOTE]
we're not under britain... they just like to say we're part of their commonwealth...
Mystic Vikings
21-11-2004, 00:33
bump

just because every soldier has navy seal equivalent, doesn't mean that the us couldn't take us over on a whim...
Bervie States
21-11-2004, 01:22
I learnt in standard grade (scottish exams) history was that in ww1 the canadians had british commanders but after everyone got slaughtered "going over the top" in ww2 the canadians demanded to have canadians as there commanders. Always had a soft spot for canadians myself, where i come form most of the population left for there during the highland clearances and i have a lot of relatives there. Also i hear they and america have more highland games than scotland.
Katganistan
21-11-2004, 01:29
America Junior

Sorry, but that's what people in the U.S. think.

Speak for yourself.

I happen to like Canadians -- we do share some common culture (after all, we both got our start from England). You've got some beautiful country I'd like to see up there.

I consider Canadians to be our northern neighbors and cousins -- but a country unto itself, just the same.
Marxlan
21-11-2004, 02:11
I learnt in standard grade (scottish exams) history was that in ww1 the canadians had british commanders but after everyone got slaughtered "going over the top" in ww2 the canadians demanded to have canadians as there commanders. Always had a soft spot for canadians myself, where i come form most of the population left for there during the highland clearances and i have a lot of relatives there. Also i hear they and america have more highland games than scotland.
Well, that's about right, but Canadians took command of Canadian forces during WW1 too, after it became apparent that the British didn't know what the hell they were doing. First battle where all Canadian divisions fought together under the command of General Currie was the battle of Vimy Ridge (The general consensus is that it was a huge victory: Take that, Fritz!)

Oh, and we all know that draft dodgers during 'Nam came up to Canada, but how many people know about the approximately 30,000 Canadians that went South and lied about their nationality so they could fight alongside American forces?
Newfstonia
21-11-2004, 02:24
every canadian soldier has training equivalent to a US navy seal, we don't have much, but what we got is good

Heh, truth. My father and brother were both in the Forces. No we don't have the money or numbers or tech... And in that we'd prolly get smished after a while in a war. But Like Viking said - Please don't take this as a slight on America - our soldiers are harder trained. Heh, my friend lived on a reserve base in St. John's and his father a Sargent. He even said that RCR, Canada's first line of infantry, is nuts. Cutting themselves and crap. Whoa. Knowing some of the training my Bro went through, I can believe it (All his instructors were ex-Airborne regiment)

We have JTF as well, which I've heard call one of the top fighting forces in the world and Seals and Rangers such have been known to try out and not make the cut. In Afghanistan, when digging out Al Quida, it was Canadian JTF that was up in the mountains for days, spotting and venturing into the caves.

But yeah, small numbers of these good soldiers and old tech drops the edge a lot. We have some things though. The C7 is nice, having a flatter trajectory then the M16, as well as still being issued with fully automatic. I remember us also haveing the best gas mask patent and next best winter kit to Russia... or Syberia or something. But jeeze, we're still using Leopard tanks and those are mothballed. ^_^;;;
Meriadoc
21-11-2004, 02:26
There is only 1 Canadian I have any beef whatsoever w/: ABC News' Peter Jennings. I grew up listening to country music (no ignorant stereotypes, please) and love Toby Keith. When this jackass said Keith couldn't sing on that 7/4 special just because of the "boot in your ass" line in Courtesy of the Red, White, & Blue, it made me realize that he doesn't give a rat's ass how Americans felt after 9/11. Me to Peter Jennings: :upyours:
Marxlan
21-11-2004, 02:29
We have JTF as well, which I've heard call one of the top fighting forces in the world and Seals and Rangers such have been known to try out and not make the cut. In Afghanistan, when digging out Al Quida, it was Canadian JTF that was up in the mountains for days, spotting and venturing into the caves.

I always wondered, why is it Joint Task Force 2? I mean, there isn't a Joint Task Force 1, so why the two at the end? It's very confusing.
Newfstonia
21-11-2004, 02:30
Oh, as a little note to a post earlier in here.... I really don't get the Quebec seperation deal. I've nothing against Quebec, but come on. You can have your 'unique culture' and still be a part of Canada. Every province just about has it's own culture. Heck, I'm from Newfoundland and that's about as different as it gets! I fear the french language just dosn't seem reason enough to leave. Well, not french... Quebecuois. A very slang ridden coloquel (Bad spelling, sorry, heh.) version of french wich many actual french can't understand. heh, much the same that many english speaking people can't understand someone from Newfoundland as we have a very different butchered dialect too. ^_^

Lard tunderin', I tinks I'll stop dere. ^__^
Marxlan
21-11-2004, 02:33
There is only 1 Canadian I have any beef whatsoever w/: ABC News' Peter Jennings. I grew up listening to country music (no ignorant stereotypes, please) and love Toby Keith. When this jackass said Keith couldn't sing on that 7/4 special just because of the "boot in your ass" line in Courtesy of the Red, White, & Blue, it made me realize that he doesn't give a rat's ass how Americans felt after 9/11. Me to Peter Jennings: :upyours:
"Boot in your ass"? Judging from the context this remark had something to do with the attacks of September 11, 2001?
Newfstonia
21-11-2004, 02:35
I always wondered, why is it Joint Task Force 2? I mean, there isn't a Joint Task Force 1, so why the two at the end? It's very confusing.

I think - and take this with a gain of salt because my memory is like a whicker basket trying to hold water, heh - there originally was JTF. It was an anti-terrorism unit for homeland security. Later formed JTF2 as they stated venturing out from Canada doing the covert ops bit.

Heh, I still remember my bro telling me about the time some JTF2 guys came up to the base to train. Civy clothes, some had long hair. Only way you could tell who they were was that they were all massive gronks and had beepers. ^.^;
New Granada
21-11-2004, 02:41
I hold canadians in very high esteem, they are civilized and run a civilized country.
Laskin Yahoos
21-11-2004, 02:52
We Canadians are always taught that we are held in high esteem by the rest of the world...
If, by 'the rest of the world,' you mean Western Europe, then yes. How could France hate one of its former colonies?

However, if you mean 'planet Earth, excluding Canada,' then no. Canada is seen to be one of the proliferators of weapons of mass capitalism.
Meriadoc
21-11-2004, 02:58
"Boot in your ass"? Judging from the context this remark had something to do with the attacks of September 11, 2001?
Yes it did. Here are the lyrics to that verse:

Ohh Justice will be served
And the battle will rage
This big dog will fight
When you rattle his cage
And you'll be sorry that you messed with
The U. S. of A.
'Cause we'll put a boot in your ass
It's the American way
Ifracombe
21-11-2004, 03:23
i like canada, for good reasons. Canada (along with Australia) is the only developed country that does not consume more than it has the capacity to produce, and we also have started taking on the states in many ways. The world no longer needs (though it would really really like) the US to pull off major treaties and such. The Montreal Protocol to ban landmine was a canadian venture (announced by my universies Presidant, Lloyd Axeworthy), which by the way the US signed, then pulled out of. And the international criminal court, which the US refuses to sign, probably because of those darned war crimes. Kyoto protocal, etc, etc.

I think it would be a nice experiment to see the world forein investors pull all their money out of US. See what they would do then. kill everyone? maybe they would try. The US dollar has always been way over valued, and now people are finally waking up. Canadian are flooding into the states...to buy cheap shit.
Viking Yak Herders
24-11-2004, 21:47
Oh, as a little note to a post earlier in here.... I really don't get the Quebec seperation deal. I've nothing against Quebec, but come on. You can have your 'unique culture' and still be a part of Canada. Every province just about has it's own culture. Heck, I'm from Newfoundland and that's about as different as it gets! I fear the french language just dosn't seem reason enough to leave. Well, not french... Quebecuois. A very slang ridden coloquel (Bad spelling, sorry, heh.) version of french wich many actual french can't understand. heh, much the same that many english speaking people can't understand someone from Newfoundland as we have a very different butchered dialect too. ^_^

Lard tunderin', I tinks I'll stop dere. ^__^
well, the cajun people in Lousiana have their own dialect as well... and technically, it's closer to ancient french than the Quebecois because the cajun's ancestors are the exiled acadian settelrs...

:) you are now versed in canadian history, have a nice day.
Dobbs Town
24-11-2004, 21:51
well, the cajun people in Lousiana have their own dialect as well... and technically, it's closer to ancient french than the Quebecois because the cajun's ancestors are the exiled acadian settelrs...


What about the Acadians living in New Brunswick right now?
Viking Yak Herders
24-11-2004, 21:53
What about the Acadians living in New Brunswick right now?
some of them hid int he forests I think... but the majority were sent downstream by the british
Viking Yak Herders
24-11-2004, 21:54
actually... I don't think I'm sure anymore...
Letora
24-11-2004, 22:35
Yes and Quebec will be free one day !
It's not that we don't like you, it's that we are very different and you don't seem to understand it and give us the tools to protect our culture and society.

Hate to tell you pal, but most of Quebec is Crown land... If you seperated that land that is crown land goes to us...
Letora
24-11-2004, 22:40
I always wondered, why is it Joint Task Force 2? I mean, there isn't a Joint Task Force 1, so why the two at the end? It's very confusing.

It's called Joint Task Force-2 because of the fact Canada had another Counter-Terrorist Team called...SERT (Special Emergency Response Team), which was run by the RCMP...

JTF-2 was formed after the RCMP's SERT was disbanded...
Canad a
28-11-2004, 21:23
Joint Taskforce 2 (JTF2) is the Special Forces/Counter-Terrorists Group of the Canadian Forces. SERT was not disbanded it's duties are strictly throughout Canada. JTF-2 does not just fight terrorism but it also does domestic issues with Aboriginal rebels.
Mystic Vikings
29-11-2004, 00:34
Hate to tell you pal, but most of Quebec is Crown land... If you seperated that land that is crown land goes to us...
:confused: we still use a crown land system? I thought that the westminster statute thing annulled all of the old stuff.
Mystic Vikings
29-11-2004, 00:35
:confused: we still use a crown land system? I thought that the westminster statute thing annulled all of the old stuff.
well, it isn't really a system... but still... my bad
Canad a
29-11-2004, 00:36
Quebec is still underview of the British North America Act. Quebec did not sign the Canada Act of 1982.
Shaunavon
29-11-2004, 08:54
Quebec is still underview of the British North America Act. Quebec did not sign the Canada Act of 1982.

NO, the supreme court ruled that the Constitution Act of 1982 does apply to Quebec. However, Quebec uses section 33 of that act to override the charter.
Free Gaelic States
29-11-2004, 16:44
canada kicked the US's arse in the war of 1812. If they didnt how did they manage to burn down the white house??? :headbang:

Interesting historical note. The american national anthem is about watching the White House burn, and the tune is an old British drinking song. This comes from my History teacher, a very reliable source, hope it gives you a chuckle.
Silent Truth
29-11-2004, 16:46
I like Canadians. They have good music like Grand Theft Bus and Lotus.
Mystic Vikings
29-11-2004, 20:57
Interesting historical note. The american national anthem is about watching the White House burn, and the tune is an old British drinking song. This comes from my History teacher, a very reliable source, hope it gives you a chuckle.
intereting... and there's an old folk song that I heard was sung whent eh white house was being burned by the canadians

"oh we burn burn burn burn burn burn burn burn..."
seriously, I heard that it's an actual song...
Shaunavon
29-11-2004, 21:05
In regards to the War of 1812, I suggest you listen to the Arrogant Worms version of those events, it is pretty awesome.
Canad a
29-11-2004, 23:20
As I have explained early in this thread, Canada did not beat the American's ass, we retaliated against them. They burnt down the city of York, which was the capital at the time.
Scouserlande
29-11-2004, 23:23
Love em, British friends with funny acsents and the same good old liberaly values across the adlantic. Im british and have lots of canadian relatives.
Be a bit nicer if they(canada) phoned home (u.k) now and again mind.

Serousily Canada is British as is Austrailia. I dont see why some people dislike this, it is hardly disputable.

Can some one teach me that song, it be great for the pub.
Kiwi-kiwi
29-11-2004, 23:58
As I have explained early in this thread, Canada did not beat the American's ass, we retaliated against them. They burnt down the city of York, which was the capital at the time.

This is true. On a slightly random note, I visited the grave of the/one of the guys who burnt down the Whitehouse. Now THAT was an interesting Canadian History field trip...
Jayastan
30-11-2004, 00:11
Hopefully with all the alberta oil money, canada can start to rebuild our military. Maybe we can get rid of the liberals and start on that. We need to live up to our peacekeeping duties and stop things like rwanda from happening....
Shaunavon
02-12-2004, 04:39
As I have explained early in this thread, Canada did not beat the American's ass, we retaliated against them. They burnt down the city of York, which was the capital at the time.

Well actually, the Britished caused the war, and America was retaliated by attacking us. However, the war itself was in fact a draw, while the Brits dominated most of the military with one hand behind its back, the U.S. ended up getting free reign in western North America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812
Mistress Kimberly
02-12-2004, 04:44
I think Canada is pretty cool. Some day I plan on going up there. (Probably when my friends all start fleeing from the evil that is Dubbya).
Dakini
02-12-2004, 04:48
Hm, Canadians....
(another American)
Don't really know enough to say....
I've got a questions, do you actually say "eh" all the time? Because every once in a while I go through "Canadian faze" where I say "eh" all the time. And aboot. I say that to.

i don't say eh or aboot and i drink beer that is actually beer, not water. sorry, just a cheap shot at the shit you americans call beer.

So when the Canadians were choosing their name they drew random letters out of a hat. The first letter was "C" so the person drawing called out "C, eh" and the guy who was writing it down wrote "Ca" The first guy drew another letter: "N" so he called out "N, eh" so then you have "Cana" Then "D" and "D eh" and then "Canada".
Anyway, I don't think that's what really happened. (I hope this won't affend anyone. It is just a joke, and anyway if my brother tells it one more time......)

actually our country name means village in iroquoi (i think) according to the heritage moment thing, someone assumed that the natives called the land canada, when it was really a village...
Dakini
02-12-2004, 04:51
I like Canadians. They have good music like Grand Theft Bus and Lotus.
wow! you know about grand theft bus?
Mystic Vikings
08-12-2004, 01:40
what started as a simple gag pack has turned into a huge phenomenon for americans visiting different countries, they buy 'canada packs', t-shirts, lapel pins etc. with canadian flags on them, along with simple question and answer books concerning canadian slang and politics... the trouble is that they act more canadian than most canadians do, now everyone wearing a canadian flag is an american, everyone who doesn't try is a canadian...
Sel Appa
08-12-2004, 02:45
When I went to Nova Scotia during the Summer of 2003, I found everyone very hospitable and kind. We stayed at a REAL Bed & Breakfast(except they had luncxh and dinner too.). It was in an old house and supposedly there was a ghost that haunted it.

I think Canadians are Americans who are a lot kinder than Americans. They don't take advantage of each other or insult each other.
Kleptonis
08-12-2004, 03:06
America+more liberal government-a few million people=Canada.

Thats the impression I get at least.
Mystic Vikings
12-12-2004, 01:06
America+more liberal government-a few million people=Canada.

Thats the impression I get at least.
you forgot the socialist element in it...
1337itude
12-12-2004, 01:31
Canadian government: Great.

Canadian people: Infuriating. They're like French people, but they speak English, so you know what they're saying when they make elitist jackhole claims.
Rudenstein
12-12-2004, 01:40
Hm, Canadians....
(another American)
Don't really know enough to say....
I've got a questions, do you actually say "eh" all the time? Because every once in a while I go through "Canadian faze" where I say "eh" all the time. And aboot. I say that to.
Seriously the first thing I thought of is this stupid joke my brother keeps telling (I must have heard it 80 times within the last 5 days)

So when the Canadians were choosing their name they drew random letters out of a hat. The first letter was "C" so the person drawing called out "C, eh" and the guy who was writing it down wrote "Ca" The first guy drew another letter: "N" so he called out "N, eh" so then you have "Cana" Then "D" and "D eh" and then "Canada".
Anyway, I don't think that's what really happened. (I hope this won't affend anyone. It is just a joke, and anyway if my brother tells it one more time......)

I like the joke and no, not all Canadians say "eh". In Quebec we say "le".
Iraqestonia
12-12-2004, 02:06
Canada is great because we are more tolerant, less annoying, and I tend to think we have one of the greatest health and education systems in the world. I read all the time about how schools in the US are falling apart because they can't afford to renovate. Well, I'm 16, and my school has a weight room, lockers, a huge library, several computer labs, a theatre, cafeteria, 3 gyms, and it's all government-funded. My mom is a nurse, so when I get a wang to the head, we don't pay a dime, thanks to our health care.

Two things annoy me about Canada. First of all, when I go down to the States, I notice there is a WAY bigger selection of pop and candy. Second, I resent the fact that things cost more up here. And I wish the NDP was in power, but meh. At least the Liberals are better than the Conservatives.
Infine
12-12-2004, 02:14
I'm Canadian and I like to think that we are a lot like America, but w/o the controversy :p . But seriously, thanks to all of the Americans who were so nice about us.

We don't actually say eh that often if you live here, and most people laugh when somebody does. We call a couch a chesterfield and are very proud of having free healthcare, even if it does sap so much money out of our economy. Whoever it was that said that Canadians' stomachs roll when they see pictures of Dieppe, or commercials for Rememberance Day (our form of Veteran's Day) they were bang on. We are proud to have been elected by the UN the nicest place to live so much, and we don't really want any overhauls of anything.

That pretty much sums up a little bit of what Canada is from one Canadian's perspective, thanks to all of you south of the border that still like us, even if we are so much more liberal than you...
Infine
12-12-2004, 02:16
Canadian government: Great.

Canadian people: Infuriating. They're like French people, but they speak English, so you know what they're saying when they make elitist jackhole claims.

sry bout that, but you gotta realize how left-wing we are compared to the average American, most of the people I know are very nice. Also, it doen't help that the vast majority of us think that your president is a, well, ummm, a dipshit.
Pwnsylvakia
12-12-2004, 03:22
Interesting historical note. The american national anthem is about watching the White House burn, and the tune is an old British drinking song. This comes from my History teacher, a very reliable source, hope it gives you a chuckle.

Its actually about the shelling of Ft. McHenry in Baltimore harbor