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Resigning - Why is everyone leaving the Bush administration?


Anyone have some hard hitting anaylsis



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Resigning - Why is everyone leaving the Bush administration?


Anyone have some hard hitting anaylsis



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Analysis? Yeah. It's because Bush is retarded, just like half the country.

Because your Bush is gay. :D

It's not unusual for several cabinet members and others to leave an administration after the first term. There are usually a variety of reasons for their doing so, usually having to do with personal goals and plans.

It's not unusual for several cabinet members and others to leave an administration after the first term. There are usually a variety of reasons for their doing so, usually having to do with personal goals and plans.


i still find it very odd... its like something is wrong

Some CIA insiders say that Bush appointee Peter Goss has been systematically forcing out several of the many Bush detractors in the CIA.

As for Powell, you could see that one coming, he was constantly at odds with Cheaney and Rumsfeld, and he constantly lost. I have heard that Ashcroft has been having health problems, possibly related to stress. I think he is going to try his hand in the public sector.

It's not unusual for several cabinet members and others to leave an administration after the first term. There are usually a variety of reasons for their doing so, usually having to do with personal goals and plans.


It is common. If you consider the major crisis that has beset this administration, I don't doubt that several of them aren't just burnt out. Can you imagine the pressure those folks are under? whew!!

Analysis? Yeah. It's because Bush is retarded, just like half the country

Just remember, Bush scored higher on intelligence tests than Kerry. You just shot yourself in the foot on that one. :p

Just remember, Bush scored higher on intelligence tests than Kerry. You just shot yourself in the foot on that one. :p



haha, well, i went to the same highschool and college as Bush family members, had the same teachers... and they were "C students and retarded" according to my VERY conservative debate teacher

Maybe i should run the country?

Because your Bush is gay. :D

wow... that was hard-hitting... :headbang:

haha, well, i went to the same highschool and college as Bush family members, had the same teachers... and they were "C students and retarded" according to my VERY conservative debate teacher

Maybe i should run the country?

Bush and Kerry both managed to get Ivy League educations. Not easy getting in so they both must have had something rattling around in their heads. I don't know if there is enough money in the world to get me to take the president's job for one day. I'd probably die of stress within 10 minutes.

Analysis? Yeah. It's because Bush is retarded, just like half the country.
Now you say half … but you don’t specify …

Maybe you mean your half? (Whichever half you fall in under)

Seriously

why can't there ever be a political debate on NS without a few idiots always saying its because (INSERT NAME) is gay, or retarded. Come on grow up and debate. If he is gay and retarded tell us how....because you look gay and retard everytime you say something like that.. If you can't participate in a grown up way then don't.

Because your Bush is gay. :D

Hmmm explains the whole gay marrage thing

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It is common. If you consider the major crisis that has beset this administration, I don't doubt that several of them aren't just burnt out. Can you imagine the pressure those folks are under? whew!!



Just remember, Bush scored higher on intelligence tests than Kerry. You just shot yourself in the foot on that one. :p
Well after months of abuse from people like the vast majority of this board, the personnal attacks, the vitriol, I would leave for the private sector, too. Why stay around to have your family attacked, your intelligence attacked, your religious beliefs attacked in a vulgar way, leaving is a better option. Plus, new blood in the administration is good.

Powell is leaving because he´s still angry for Bush forcing him reading that crap in front of the UN and wave Dubya´s sperm sample around as a "bottle of Anthrax!11!1!!". Though he did solider on bravley like the Iraqi Information Minister until the time came to give a damn and resign.

More power to him. I´m sorry to see him go, he was a good man who certainly deserved a better master.

Bush and Kerry both managed to get Ivy League educations. Not easy getting in so they both must have had something rattling around in their heads. I don't know if there is enough money in the world to get me to take the president's job for one day. I'd probably die of stress within 10 minutes.

Actually it is very easy when you have their backgrounds. I would imagine that any college in America would moisten their pants at the opportunity to enroll the grandson of Prescott Bush, let alone the son of the head of the CIA.

Hmmm explains the whole gay marrage thing

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Doesn't it though? Some historians say that Hitler was gay, suffered from self loathing, and therefore oppressed homosexuals. I don't know if this makes sense, but still...

Some CIA insiders say that Bush appointee Peter Goss has been systematically forcing out several of the many Bush detractors in the CIA.

As for Powell, you could see that one coming, he was constantly at odds with Cheaney and Rumsfeld, and he constantly lost. I have heard that Ashcroft has been having health problems, possibly related to stress. I think he is going to try his hand in the public sector.


So you think that people who disagree with Bush are being forced out to make it easier for Bush to expedite his wishes?

Perhaps that's on a wish list, but I'm thinking that these repubicans like the idea of a republican government, and will both make more money elsewhere and not be associated with Bush's chocies this go-around.

Bush and Kerry both managed to get Ivy League educations. Not easy getting in so they both must have had something rattling around in their heads. I don't know if there is enough money in the world to get me to take the president's job for one day. I'd probably die of stress within 10 minutes.


i am in an Ivy, and trust me, there are some really really stupid people here, there are also some that are .... yea, wow. But with a background like bush, i dunno if the ladder is a reliable example

So you think that people who disagree with Bush are being forced out to make it easier for Bush to expedite his wishes?

Perhaps that's on a wish list, but I'm thinking that these repubicans like the idea of a republican government, and will both make more money elsewhere and not be associated with Bush's chocies this go-around.

The present administration is working very hard to completely restructure the make-up of the CIA. A great deal of the existing CIA thinks it is unnecessary, expensive, and poorly timed. There have been a lot of confrontations over the restructuring between Peter Goss and his appointees and the existing higher level officials resulting in a number of resignations.

Doesn't it though? Some historians say that Hitler was gay, suffered from self loathing, and therefore oppressed homosexuals. I don't know if this makes sense, but still...
I’ve heard that one too

Though some part of me just thinks that it is attributing a feature to him just because it is a nice thought to think “he is what he always hated”

But I don’t know if it will ever actually be proven :)

I’ve heard that one too

Though some part of me just thinks that it is attributing a feature to him just because it is a nice thought to think “he is what he always hated”

But I don’t know if it will ever actually be proven :)

No, I don't think its provable at this point. Still, its fun to ponder these things. :)

Two reasons:

1. Because, having served in the administration, they can now make WAY more money in the private sector.

2. Because, having served in the administration, they can't stomache it any longer.

My guess is, it's pretty much 50-50 for each of them.

why can't there ever be a political debate on NS without a few idiots always saying its because (INSERT NAME) is gay, or retarded. Come on grow up and debate. If he is gay and retarded tell us how....because you look gay and retard everytime you say something like that.. If you can't participate in a grown up way then don't.Because there really are a large number of children here - and many of them are parroting the very sad things they hear from the adults in their lives.

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Resigning - Why is everyone leaving the Bush administration?


Anyone have some hard hitting anaylsis



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Firstly, in most two term presidencies the cabinet is constantly changing, in fact it's surprising his cabinet didn't have more attrition than it did. Secondly most two term presidents also force turnover for the new term cabinet, Bush isn't

My guess?

They're either being pushed out for not being yes-men, or they're tired of being expected to be yes-men and thus are getting out of the situation.

Considering that all news outlets seem to think Powell's resignation was prompted by Bush more than himself, his is probably the former.

My guess?

They're either being pushed out for not being yes-men, or they're tired of being expected to be yes-men and thus are getting out of the situation.

Considering that all news outlets seem to think Powell's resignation was prompted by Bush more than himself, his is probably the former.

I think that his resignation was more of a mutual thing, and was much more a result of the infighting between him and Rumsfeld, Cheaney, and Wolfowitz as Bush almost always sided with the latter threesome.

I think that his resignation was more of a mutual thing, and was much more a result of the infighting between him and Rumsfeld, Cheaney, and Wolfowitz as Bush almost always sided with the latter threesome.

Exactly my point. The other three agreed with what Bush had already decided, while Powell refused to be a yes-man.

Exactly my point. The other three agreed with what Bush had already decided, while Powell refused to be a yes-man.

Actually, Cheaney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz are far from yes-men, and I could never imagine them being so. While Bush does run the White House, contrary to what many believe, that triumverate has been very crucial in the formulating of many of his plans.

Actually, Cheaney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz are far from yes-men, and I could never imagine them being so. While Bush does run the White House, contrary to what many believe, that triumverate has been very crucial in the formulating of many of his plans.

Well, I'm just basing this off of how the administration typically chooses advisors. Perhaps a few are special - or are more involved in pushing for the choice of yes-men in the first place.

Well, I'm just basing this off of how the administration typically chooses advisors. Perhaps a few are special - or are more involved in pushing for the choice of yes-men in the first place.

I would say that Alberto Gonzalez and Peter Goss do toe the party line, so I feel they are little more than yesmen.

Powels leave is not unexpected as he stated since he started that he was leaving after his term, he wants to pursue other things in life, plus I'm sure his wife still worries about him. So far Bush only has 6 cabinet openings, Clinton at the end of his first term had 7.

The CIA purges and the cabinet reshuffling are separate issues. Cabinet resignations are quite common after the first terms for reasons already mentioned here. The CIA purges are something different. I don't have enough solid information yet.

Analysis? Yeah. It's because Bush is retarded, just like half the country.
Obviously you are a complete ignorant as well as Presgreif.

The reason Collin Powell (in the service for more than 30 years and in office for 4 years) Spencer Abraham (has been working as a politician for more than 20 years), Dr Rod Paige (has been working in education and politics for more than 20 years) and a few others or resigning is because they believe it is there time to retire. They have been working for a long time and it is there time. As well it is going to be the time for other people like myself to retire when its time.

To the ignorant idiots like Pudding Pies, you should not give your opinion on a forum or anywhere else unless it is serious or it makes sence. Other wise, shut the f@#k up

OK, here's a little hard-hitting analysis.

Even including today's resignations, the Bush adminstration has a lower level of turnover than the previous six adminstrations.

Hard hitting enough for ya?

I would say that Alberto Gonzalez and Peter Goss do toe the party line, so I feel they are little more than yesmen.
Who is Peter Goss? :D
If you're going to cast baseless aspersions on someone, at least get their name right. If you can't get that right, you obviously don't know enough about them to make bullcrap comments.

It is common. If you consider the major crisis that has beset this administration, I don't doubt that several of them aren't just burnt out. Can you imagine the pressure those folks are under? whew!!



Just remember, Bush scored higher on intelligence tests than Kerry. You just shot yourself in the foot on that one. :p

It was a military intelligence test, not an IQ test. So you just shot yourself in the foot. And no it means nothing, because I dont think anyone could have done a worse job on this war than Bush.

It was a military intelligence test, not an IQ test. So you just shot yourself in the foot. And no it means nothing, because I dont think anyone could have done a worse job on this war than Bush.

The dude who claimed that Bush was smarter than kerry was admittedly a Conservative so he may have been less than impartial.

Actually I wish I could have seen what Bush was like before he drank himself blind for 20 years detroying 99.9999 percent of his brain cells. Maybe at one point in his life Bush had a glimmer of intelligence flickering around behind those beady eyes of his.

Analysis? Yeah. It's because Bush is retarded, just like half the country.

Retarded, no, stupid idiot redneck hillbillys to the south and midwest, yes. Its the blue states that are smart, there is a website on this forum before that listen dumb states, the lowest IQ for a blue state was an average of 100, which is actually average, the highest was 113 (Connecticut) the highest red was 101, I believe it was Ohio. But correct me if Im wrong, the dumbest red state, was Mississippi with an avg. IQ of, OMG! 85! Thats pretty dumb. So dont judge us all, judge per state, thats my feeling. Such as I dont judge all of Europe or Asia.

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Resigning - Why is everyone leaving the Bush administration?

Anyone have some hard hitting anaylsis
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The Neo-Cons no longer have any need for moderation. They've allegedly made enough gains, scored enough "political capital," that they don't want anybody screwing up their diabolical schemata.

(Wow, just used the plural form schemata. Just cut my reading audience in half.)

Personally, I think Powell was less-than-politely asked to get the (*^&* out of the way, and he decided to be graceful about it.

Open the floodgates.

Personally, I think Powell was less-than-politely asked to get the (*^&* out of the way, and he decided to be graceful about it.
It couldn't be that he just doesn't wanna work with those people for another four years?

It couldn't be that he just doesn't wanna work with those people for another four years?

I'm sure that's true as well.