Don't go it alone, Blair tells US
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4014353.stm
Mr Blair will again appeal for people in Europe not to ridicule American arguments and parody their leadership.
And what are we going to say to Mr Blair? "Bugger Off" comes to mind.
Sanctaphrax
15-11-2004, 20:55
I second that motion.
Presgreif
15-11-2004, 20:58
When are the next elections in the UK? Isn't it time to switch to a nice Conservative government?
Petsburg
15-11-2004, 21:00
I think the historic 3rd term is out of the window now. Out with labour and in with the Lid Dems.
Blair's a prat, and having seen him on the news arriving to make that speech, I think there's plenty of mileage in mocking him for a while. He looked like a damn penguin...
And I don't think there is such a thing as a "nice Conservative government", I wouldn't trust them to run a laundrette, let alone the UK. Especially now they tossed Boris off of the front bench, he was funny.
Vittos Ordination
15-11-2004, 21:03
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4014353.stm
And what are we going to say to Mr Blair? "Bugger Off" comes to mind.
I think we do need a little less arrogance amongst the Europe and America here. I believe America pretty well started the whole thing, with expecting Europe to follow us into something like Iraq and insulting them when they didn't. But Europe needs to understand that the world isn't going anywhere if the U.S. isn't on board. So I think both sides need to listen to Blair and not tell him to "bugger off".
Presgreif
15-11-2004, 21:03
No way man, Margaret is my hero. I L000veed her! :D
I'll give you that, Thatcher was kind of cool. Not sure we'd have retaken the Falklands if John Major had been in power, or even Blair for that matter.
I think the historic 3rd term is out of the window now. Out with labour and in with the Lid Dems.
Nah, sadly the alcohol lead, ultra PC, spineless, populist, hypocritical lefties that constitute the Liberal Democrats will trot home in 3rd place just like they always do.
What a choice:
Labour and it's Foundation Hospitals, compulsary ID cards and following Bush on his world tour of places he doesn't really like.
Conservatives and their... do they even have any policies that Labour hasn't appropriated?
Liberal Democrats and their "only party against the war" routine.
Screw it, I'll vote Green if they put up a candidate, I can at least agree with them on more issies than I can the big three.
Chicken pi
15-11-2004, 22:17
And I don't think there is such a thing as a "nice Conservative government", I wouldn't trust them to run a laundrette, let alone the UK. Especially now they tossed Boris off of the front bench, he was funny.
And Michael Howard is a bit creepy...
Presgreif
15-11-2004, 22:27
What a choice:
Labour and it's Foundation Hospitals, compulsary ID cards and following Bush on his world tour of places he doesn't really like.
Conservatives and their... do they even have any policies that Labour hasn't appropriated?
Liberal Democrats and their "only party against the war" routine.
Screw it, I'll vote Green if they put up a candidate, I can at least agree with them on more issies than I can the big three.
Hey, I voted Green in these past Canadian elections. They didn't get any seats, but damn did I feel good about myself. :)
Petsburg
15-11-2004, 22:33
What a choice:
Labour and it's Foundation Hospitals, compulsary ID cards and following Bush on his world tour of places he doesn't really like.
Conservatives and their... do they even have any policies that Labour hasn't appropriated?
Liberal Democrats and their "only party against the war" routine.
Screw it, I'll vote Green if they put up a candidate, I can at least agree with them on more issies than I can the big three.
Anyone but the BNP or UKIP.
Labour will take their third term, but with a smaller majority. I think the swing will generally be towards the Lib Dems. They have a fair chance to get second place.
Don't forget that nationwide, the Lib Dems get close to the number of votes as the Tories. The problem is that they're close-second in a lot of constituencies. If they can get the swing they need to turn those close-seconds into actual seats, they have a good chance.
Von Witzleben
15-11-2004, 22:42
"Increasingly both Europe and America are coming to realise that lasting security against fanatics and terrorists cannot be provided by conventional military force but requires a commitment to democracy, freedom and justice."
Yes. So let's follow a religouse fundamentalist. The Crusader, Sir Bush. Woof, woof Mr. Blair.
Drashonaf
15-11-2004, 22:54
I get the feeling that next election will end in another Labour government, not because they won, just because no one got off their asses and beat them
Siljhouettes
15-11-2004, 22:56
When are the next elections in the UK? Isn't it time to switch to a nice Conservative government?
No way, Tories in power would definitely not be in the best interests of my country! ;)
I want to see the Liberal Democrats (is that a name to make US Republican blood boil or what?!) win, but I don't think that will happen.
ProMonkians
15-11-2004, 23:08
Yeah Labour will win again unfortunately. I also predict that UKIP and the SNP will also gain. thus more chimps in parliment.
I'm going to stay home on polling day, that way whatever happens it is somebody else's fault.
Portu Cale
15-11-2004, 23:13
Blair supported Bush in an attempt to "moderate" the US actions. He failed. And i bet he regrets to have supported bush, now.
The French tried to actively block the US. They Failed
Europe will only succeed if she talks in one,single voice.
Blobites
16-11-2004, 08:11
Blair supported Bush in an attempt to "moderate" the US actions. He failed. And i bet he regrets to have supported bush, now.
The French tried to actively block the US. They Failed
Europe will only succeed if she talks in one,single voice.
Blair supported Bush for economic and sycophantic reasons not to mention thinking a war would boost his re-election chances in much the same way Thatcher thought over the Falklands conflict.
Bush got away with it in the US and got re-elected, more fool the US electorate.
Blair will probably get re-elected because the wounds of the last Conservative Government are still healing and fresh in the minds of the British electorate (the ill fated Poll tax, unemployment etc).
Europe will never sing from the same song sheet, they may end up using a common currency but there are still too many fundamental differences in each of our cultures to ever agree wholeheartedly on most things.
DemonLordEnigma
16-11-2004, 08:20
Meh. Why am I not surprised?
In the end, does it matter what Blair or anyone else says when you know perfectly well we won't listen?