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This is a topic which has enraged me since puberty. If women are equal to men why can't we see their breasts. It's perfectly o.k. to see greased up man breasts, but if a female shows her nipple christians will crap themselves and women will period all over the place.

Go to Europe. You'll be happy there.

For some bizarre reason women going topless is frowned upon here - not by the blokes how'd be leering at them though.

I'd be surprised if I saw women going around topless since its winter, but I wouldn't care.

Go to Europe. You'll be happy there.
Really?

*looks around*

Nope, no bare boobs here. Mind you its below freezing so I don't blame the ladies.

Though I am sure if the women were allowed to go topless it soon would loose its “forbidden” draw that it now has

Soon as its common place it will no longer be desired to the extent that it is

For some bizarre reason women going topless is frowned upon here - not by the blokes how'd be leering at them though.
Unless you are in Ibiza or Benidorm. Although it's the fall already. Perhaps Tenerife then.

This is a topic which has enraged me since puberty. If women are equal to men why can't we see their breasts. It's perfectly o.k. to see greased up man breasts, but if a female shows her nipple christians will crap themselves and women will period all over the place.

Are you sure this is a topic that's enraged you since puberty?

Women have been legally going topless here in Canada for over ten years and nothing horrible has happened. Actually, it's quite liberating. Not that it's often warm enough for either sex to go topless.

There is nothing sexual about it; the perverted Christians just made it so. :P

There is nothing sexual about it; the perverted Christians just made it so. :P
To be fair they were not the only one to come up with that more ;) its been going on for a lot longer then christianity

lawchange: only women are allowed to go topless. Would definitally improve the quality of life :D

:fluffle: there's plenty of female nudity and sexual scenes in the movies and TV where I'm at. I think what we need is more male nudity!!

lawchange: only women are allowed to go topless. Would definitally improve the quality of life :D

I agree, toplessness SHOULD be banned in the case of abundant back hair. Eeew.

I would love the option of going topless, not that I really would I think I am a bit shy... but to have that option in the summer would be wonderful

I agree, toplessness SHOULD be banned in the case of abundant back hair. Eeew.
That and in the case of fat guys... *shudder*

Yup this all fits in with equal opportunity :D

I spent this Summer in Europe, and the topless thing ... I was really enjoying it! Its nice not to have to wear a shirt ...

This is a topic which has enraged me since puberty. If women are equal to men why can't we see their breasts. It's perfectly o.k. to see greased up man breasts, but if a female shows her nipple christians will crap themselves and women will period all over the place.


Well, as I understand it - the mere glimpse of JAnet JAckson's right nipple was enough to emotionally scar an entire generation of American children for life.

And now you want to see the whole breast?


You want the breast? You can't handle the breast!
(said in my best Jack Nicholson imitation)

Yup this all fits in with equal opportunity :D
Yup! Everyone has an equal opportunity to look at attractive topless people. What more could a civilized society want? ;)

Well, as I understand it - the mere glimpse of JAnet JAckson's right nipple was enough to emotionally scar an entire generation of American children for life.

And now you want to see the whole breast?


You want the breast? You can't handle the breast!
(said in my best Jack Nicholson imitation)
No kidding that was so BS the whole jannet thing

Why only women? this thread is sexist.

If people would be able to realize the difference in lust and admiration. Then we may be able to live in peace and harmony with naked boobies or whatever floats your boat(bear in mind legal). I think that is why we see throughout time a increase of things that are taboo becoming the norm. Because God and with all his infinite wisdom realized that it takes exposure to ever understand, accept anything. We must embrace the informalities of God, in order to understand and accept God. Like the old false saying: "what you don't know dont hurt you", when in actuality what you don't know hurts you the most. Not knowing God or especially choosing not to, will harm you by hiding the truth from yourself. Heck do you think if we knew what was going to happen on september 11th it still would of hurt us? Probably not, because we would of knew how to deal with the truth. This is why we should all seek the truth of our instincts, in place of all of our false thoughts such as lusting over a beautiful thing instead of admiring it(women). Of course a woman probably wouldn't know how to handle a real man that respected the beauty of her instead of exploiting it for personal gratitude. Exactly what someone else already stated. Its the forbidden draw and the instinct to rebel for (what we think) is forbidden, when we stop thinking it is forbidden we clear the fog in our minds that show the truth as being a normal part of life. A woman is a beautiful creature from God, meant to be loved and cherished not exploited.

Why only women? this thread is sexist.
No its not ... just hinging on the fact that men already have the right

Exposure diminishes sentitivity and "prurient" interest, and that would be a bad thing, in my humble opinion. :)

Exposure diminishes sentitivity and "prurient" interest, and that would be a bad thing, in my humble opinion. :)

You could move to siberia. Then it wouldn't matter if women were allowed to or not.

No its not ... just hinging on the fact that men already have the right

d'oh, I'm sorry. I apologize !!!!

I thought it was about complete nudity.

Anyway why women shouldn't be topless? Because if they are, the boobs grow. Until they hit the ground. ugly.

Anyway why women shouldn't be topless? Because if they are, the boobs grow. Until they hit the ground. ugly.

Um...I'm pretty sure that has never happened to anyone.

Exposure diminishes sentitivity and "prurient" interest, and that would be a bad thing, in my humble opinion. :)

Yeah, the porn industry will lose millions if people stop being so excited by breasts.

Exposure diminishes sentitivity and "prurient" interest, and that would be a bad thing, in my humble opinion.

I have to disagree by saying what we got here is a failure to communicate between the sexes. Expecting both men and women to have the same interest in sex is like asking for a black or white person to show the same color of skin as the other. Two different shades to the eye on the outside but coming from something that is exactly the same from within. We do not all have to seek the same answer in order to be right. Men and women just have different sexual interests just as some women will differ from another and many men will to another man. We always seem to expect a uniform answer to a multi pronged question. We are working on an impossible answer if we expect a single answer (one way of interest)for so many differing questions(men and women all differ on what beholds a prurient thought, or of dreams, fantasies and expectations). So I have to say that exposure actually only increases and opens up to understanding and accepting our differences in sexual matters that we all hold to a better state of being.
Just to be a little off the wall it is just how our left and right thumb print differs from each other, our left and right eye prints differ. Heck many men and womens left and right boobs or pecks or whatever you choose to call them differ. Being different is cool, being different is being a human being. Being different has been put off as being imperfect, well folks then being imperfect is being real. Anotherwards those that seek us or anyone else to be the same are truly being fakes. Not cool dude :)

They already can go topless around where I live. Well except on TV. They just never do though. Although i have heard stories usually involving the, how shall I put this, the excessively unattractive.

Better still... make a law stating that if men want to continue to be able to be shirtless in public, they have to shave their underarm hair, keep them to a nice George Michael-stubbleyness, or at the very least comb out the deodorant dreadlocks...and lets groom the back hair to a nice smooth metrosexual gleam while we're at it! ;)

the women need to dress what they want, and less is better.
but if they dress provocative, they can't conyinue with all their feminism.

I agree, toplessness SHOULD be banned in the case of abundant back hair. Eeew.
Seconded!

I have to disagree by saying what we got here is a failure to communicate between the sexes. Expecting both men and women to have the same interest in sex is like asking for a black or white person to show the same color of skin as the other. Two different shades to the eye on the outside but coming from something that is exactly the same from within. We do not all have to seek the same answer in order to be right. Men and women just have different sexual interests just as some women will differ from another and many men will to another man. We always seem to expect a uniform answer to a multi pronged question. We are working on an impossible answer if we expect a single answer (one way of interest)for so many differing questions(men and women all differ on what beholds a prurient thought, or of dreams, fantasies and expectations). So I have to say that exposure actually only increases and opens up to understanding and accepting our differences in sexual matters that we all hold to a better state of being.
Just to be a little off the wall it is just how our left and right thumb print differs from each other, our left and right eye prints differ. Heck many men and womens left and right boobs or pecks or whatever you choose to call them differ. Being different is cool, being different is being a human being. Being different has been put off as being imperfect, well folks then being imperfect is being real. Anotherwards those that seek us or anyone else to be the same are truly being fakes. Not cool dude :)

I was referring to nerve senstitivity.

You could move to siberia. Then it wouldn't matter if women were allowed to or not.

Heh! Not a chance!

Yeah, the porn industry will lose millions if people stop being so excited by breasts.

Not what I was referring to at all.

Women have been legally going topless here in Canada for over ten years and nothing horrible has happened. Actually, it's quite liberating. Not that it's often warm enough for either sex to go topless.

Go UBC's naked beach haha

the women need to dress what they want, and less is better.
but if they dress provocative, they can't conyinue with all their feminism.
Hmmm I thought the act of being topless would be a feminist movement (at least by the women) equal rights and all

I don't see why not. I live in Texas, and most of the year it's friggin' hot. Guys get to take their shirts off in public and I don't. Where's the justice? :confused:

Hmm . . . well I do oppose censorship (including things like nudity . . . the inner guy inside of me says 'Yes!')

I'm torn on this one. If you ask me, should women go around topless, I'd have to say I'd prefer not. On the other hand, if you asked me should they have the right to, I'd say yes.

Yup this all fits in with equal opportunity :D
The ERA was never passed. If it was women would already be allowed to go topless.

Topless, is that it?!?!?!
Women should have freedom and all that, but they should also be allowed to show their most prized posestions aswell.
After all, its only natural, right?

im with that one person we should be allowed to go topless... do i want them to no but we should still have the right to

and men really should shave its so gross *ewww*

bump

what school was that..i hear the word transfer echoing round in my head :P j/k seriously though, I do believe in equal rights etc, and agree that from a poltical perspective i dont see why it isnt done already. We appear to be so against old ideas that we have slipped into positive discrimination in many cases now.

what school was that..i hear the word transfer echoing round in my head :P j/k
:rolleyes:

I find the story distinctly unlikely anyway.

Women should be allowed to go topless, provided they're good-looking. I mean, you wouldn't want to see an obese, wrinkled, dried-up old prune with a drooping stomach swaying between her knees and shriveled breasts walking around topless, would you? :eek:

Women should be allowed to go topless, provided they're good-looking. I mean, you wouldn't want to see an obese, wrinkled, dried-up old prune with a drooping stomach swaying between her knees and shriveled breasts walking around topless, would you? :eek:

Meh. You have to take the good with the bad, unfortunately.

Women should be allowed to go topless, provided they're good-looking. I mean, you wouldn't want to see an obese, wrinkled, dried-up old prune with a drooping stomach swaying between her knees and shriveled breasts walking around topless, would you?
Please dont i wanna sleep i dont wanna be faced with nightmares..lol

Women should be allowed to go topless, provided they're good-looking. I mean, you wouldn't want to see an obese, wrinkled, dried-up old prune with a drooping stomach swaying between her knees and shriveled breasts walking around topless, would you? :eek:
Not especially, but making the good looking requirement is rather discriminatory.

I think that before we decide if women should go topless we oughta screen the idea very carefully and take a representative sample. I will post my email address for the ladies to submit to soon...

This is a topic which has enraged me since puberty. If women are equal to men why can't we see their breasts. It's perfectly o.k. to see greased up man breasts, but if a female shows her nipple christians will crap themselves and women will period all over the place.

If woman were topless than boobs wouldnt be a desired thing anymore, just like hands, in ancient China woman covered there hands and they were considered sexy but now they arent and nobody cares about them.

but if they dress provocative, they can't conyinue with all their feminism.

where did that come from?

I agree, toplessness SHOULD be banned in the case of abundant back hair. Eeew.
Why? It's just hair. Hell, should baring unshaved legs be banned? How about arms? And just look at men- many of them have hair on their FACES! The only difference between that and hair anywhere else is the type of lice that can infest it. What's the problem?

I say we let everyone tromp about naked if that's what they want- and if the puritans object, we start burning THEM at the stake.

If women are equal to men why can't we see their breasts. It's perfectly o.k. to see greased up man breasts, but if a female shows her nipple christians will crap themselves and women will period all over the place.

If we are so equal to men then how come it is o.k to show a clitoris on t.v and not an erect penis? Even if boobs in public were "allowed", i believe that there would be little support for this new 'opportunity'. Plus as a woman, and i think guys should be prepared to accept this - there is obviously something far more attractive about women's breasts (therefore more intimate, special, and private) than a set of man boobs whose vast majority are saggy and sport little/no sex appeal wheras almost any set of boobs can get a bloke a bit ruffled. As for boobs on t.v, you obviously don't watch a lot of t.v after the nine o'clock watershed because - get this - they're everywhere! Have you not been paying attention?

lawchange: only women are allowed to go topless. Would definitally improve the quality of life :D

Hrmm... let's see - for who? I'm sure sex crime would be rocketing up so life quality for women would probably be at a new low.

where did that come from?
Probably from the fact he's never met a provocatively dressed feminist...because they don't exist. That would be "oppression" by us men if they had to dress sexy.


(On the other hand, of the various feminists and lesbians I have met, hell just walk through New Haven and you'll see enough to last you a lifetime, there have been a grand number of: 0 hot ones)

Hrmm... let's see - for who? I'm sure sex crime would be rocketing up so life quality for women would probably be at a new low.


Sex crimes are about power, not about sex. Please don't confuse the two.

That being said, I wouldn't mind going topless if my breasts weren't so saggy when I take off my bra...summers are too hot for t-shirts sometimes. Bras make it worse. >.>

As others have said, if seeing bare boobs becomes a common thing, it loses its appeal. And for that exact reason, I think public nudity should be legalized. The sooner we get over our forbidden desire to see boobs, vaginas, penises, etc, the sooner we can start appreciating what really matters.

Not especially, but making the good looking requirement is rather discriminatory.

Sounds like one of George Carlin's inventions:

A light that shines only on things worth looking at.

Where I live, going around the house dressed only in your underwear, or even naked, is all right as long as you don't go by the windows. Nudity makes perfect sense when it is very hot out; in winter, of course, it's not such a good idea.

And many people already understand that a sense of liberation from customs results from nudity; that's what nudist colonies are all about. In the original story, Jesus was naked on the cross; they put on the loincloth later, for modesty. The David and many other Michelangelo sculptures were naked. Emphasis on the were, because he was forced to cover the David. Later the fig leaf was taken off. Who cares? The human body is beautiful; this sense of modesty is a social affectation.

Clothes aren't God's will, rather they are the will of old geezers who wish to control through mores.

Sex crimes are about power, not about sex. Please don't confuse the two.

You miss my point, and i didn't say that, please don't get confused. Rape trials sometimes do not end in a conviction as the victim is often said to have provoked the attack i.e. flirting. If pairs of baps were wondering around getting a tan and turning on the male population, are they asking for attention? And do we really expect men to control their instincts to look and touch when they are everywhere? Wow, this could be torture! Men, be careful what your asking for.

Probably from the fact he's never met a provocatively dressed feminist...because they don't exist. That would be "oppression" by us men if they had to dress sexy.


(On the other hand, of the various feminists and lesbians I have met, hell just walk through New Haven and you'll see enough to last you a lifetime, there have been a grand number of: 0 hot ones)

well then we either have different definitions of sexy and hot, or you don't know what feminism is and in fact are basing your opinions on who is a feminist (and a lesbian for that matter) entirely on how they dress. i'm going with the second one. in other words hasty generalization and circular argument.

it would be oppression if they are required to dress sexy. it is not oppression to dress sexy because you want to. feminism is about choice and equality. it is not a dress code or a set of demands about how women must live their lives. it is the opposite of that.

most people (men and women) you meet these days are feminists to some extent. it would be nice if they were more concious and consistent about it, but we are making progress. does anybody look down on women going to college and not getting married right out of high school because they decide to persue other goals anymore? for that matter, is it forbidden for women to dress up all sexy and go dancing without being escorted by their spouses or a family member? cause that's feminism in action.

And do we really expect men to control their instincts to look and touch when they are everywhere? Wow, this could be torture!

i know it sounds crazy when you are in jr. high in america, but somehow people have generally managed to not go on huge rape sprees at the mere thought of boobies. maybe where you come from people wear parkas all the time, but around here there's boobies all over that are only covered by thin layers of cloth. somehow, we get by.

They can do it here all they like.

One reason Ontario pwns you.