NationStates Jolt Archive


ODB dead at age 35

Incertonia
15-11-2004, 15:12
And the world wept. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6479388/) That's young though. I mean, I just turned 36 about a week ago. Now I haven't led as, umm, interesting a life as ODB did, but still, 35 is young for a death that didn't involve gunfire or some other sort of violent intervention.
Legless Pirates
15-11-2004, 15:15
I think 35 year old junks just don't live that long
Kryogenerica
15-11-2004, 15:41
You can drop dead from a lifestyle-induced heart attack no matter how young you are... I know that it wasn't listed in that story (which I only looked at to find out who OBD was) but it's pretty obvious. People younger than that die every day through no fault of their own. He chose to do the whole "live fast die young" thing and did. No real surprise there...
Demented Hamsters
15-11-2004, 16:27
I don't find it all that incredible. You abuse your body with drugs and alcohol for several years (2 decades in this case) and it's going to catch up with you soon. Cocaine weakens the heart muscle pretty significantly.
Just look at all those old rockers who have dropped dead over the last few years, as they've tried to keep going. You just can't do it. Party hard for years and then think you're body can still keep going full-on is crazy. Bill Wyman excepted of course.

Beware: I've gone off on a tangent here.

Talking of dying young(ish), I read last week that Iris Chang - the author of 'The Rape of Nanking' committed suicide. She left behind a husband and a 2-yr-old son.
If you don't know what the book was about (I urge you all to read it, but be warned it's particularly disturbing), here's a link that explains it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/223038.stm
The Japanese still deny it ever happened and have refused to apologise. In fact they refuse to apologise for anything they did during the occupation of China and WWII.
If you google 'Rape of Nanking' one of the first sites is one claiming it's all lies(and you're hurting international relations - ie. World/Japan - by mentioning it). They base this solely on Japanese historian's views, which of course refuse to accept that Japanese soldiers did anything cruel. One actually says this - that it's not in the Japanese mind to act like this. The reason for the deaths were because the Chinese were brutal and cannabilistic (no really, he says the Chinese were cannibals in 1937), so any atrocities were from the Chinese fighting themselves. Which in itself is quite ironic, as the rest of the site goes on about how it never happened (but doesn't notice the contradiction of having one person saying it did, but the Chinese did it).

I watched a program on the building of the Burma-Ragoon railway ('Bridge over the river Kwai') a couple of weeks back and the Japanese commander of the worst camp (where less than 1/3 of 1200 POWs survived) up until his dying day claimed all the deaths were from the POWs not being used to eating rice! He of course faced no trial when he returned to Japan - after all he had done nothing wrong. No POWs or Asian slaves were hurt in building the railway. One of the most poignant moments in the documentary was one old POW saying how he felt when they were liberated. He said all he could think about was the fact he could once again say 'No'. It made him feel like he was a human again.

Late last year, 400 Japanese men went over to China and had a 3-day, Hotel-wide orgy with 500 Chinese prostitutes on the anniversary of the Japanese occupation of China (1931, of which Nanking followed 6 years later). Remember the Japanese had lots of 'comfort' women, which they, surprisingly, deny. Any mention to it is usually along the lines of the women enjoyed it.
Imagine the outcry if Germans did something similar in Poland on the anniversary of the Warsaw uprising or the opening of Austwitz.
Utopio
15-11-2004, 17:55
Damn....

Makes me even more glad (and privaleged) I saw Ol' Dirty Bastard and the rest of the Wu-Tang at T in the Park.

Dont buy drugs kids.



Become a rapper and they give you them for free!
Freedomfrize
15-11-2004, 19:14
Mozart and Purcell and Schubert too died in their thirty-something (lazy to check, but almost sure I'm right). Well's that was a lot more of a loss.
Desertwoman
15-11-2004, 19:19
yeah mozart was an alchy.
Sdaeriji
15-11-2004, 19:26
I find it difficult to mourn the death of someone selfish enough to collect welfare checks while being a multi-million dollar rap artist.
Keruvalia
15-11-2004, 20:10
yeah mozart was an alchy.

Actually, eating raw pork was what finally killed Mozart, not the booze. He was also undergoing mercury treatments for syphillis, which probably induced some of his madness in his later years (allowing him to compose such bizarre things as The Magic Flute).

Oh ... and he was 36 when he died.

I find it difficult to mourn the death of someone selfish enough to collect welfare checks while being a multi-million dollar rap artist.

It never ceases to amaze me that whenever someone dies, no matter who they are, there is always someone willing to say, "So what? He/She was a putz anyway".
Free Soviets
15-11-2004, 20:33
I find it difficult to mourn the death of someone selfish enough to collect welfare checks while being a multi-million dollar rap artist.

personally, i found that to be hilarious. a disservice to all those that haveto spend time reapetedly showing that welfare fraud is only a minor problem, but hilarious none the less.
Goed Twee
15-11-2004, 20:55
That's one of the reasons the author Murakami was so incredibly contraversial for a while, because he unabashedly wrote about the war and about horrors that occured in it.
Presgreif
15-11-2004, 20:56
This sucks very badly. Naty=sad. :(
Tuesday Heights
15-11-2004, 21:27
Oh, well, just another rich druggie in the ground. :rolleyes:
Areyoukiddingme
15-11-2004, 22:05
Good Riddence.

Old Douch Bag is gone, another scumbag will take his place.