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Sorry, guys, but I looked at AOL news, so I can't really give you a source.

Evidentally, someone believes he found Atlantis off of Cyprys. He has evidence, but he has not said anything (I just skimmed the article).

Think of it, though. Finding the Aincent Mythical City.

If Atlantis was found tomorrow, what would you do? Would you care? Would this spark anything?

I want your input.

It would certainly cause several historians to shoot themselves in the foot.

"Doh, we WERE completely wrong about the origins of ancient civilization!"

I think it would be cool. But I wouldnt want them to go and explore it too much. Because if we have made it this far with out it, we could keep on going without it. I think that it would like, alter the couse of world history, and there would be a lot of unexplained stuff. I dunno too much crap :S

How many times have people claimed they found Atlantis?

And what on earth are you doing on AOL? Get a real service provider!

Atlantis, yeah right...you keep on thinking that. I remember a couple of years ago they found some Egyptian palace or something like that under water. An anchient city, tomb, or palace that is found underwater does not make it Atlantis.

It's a possibility but just because its a possibility dosen't mean its true.

About 6 months ago, some Danish scientist said he had proved that Ireland was in fact Atlantis.

There's also archaeological evidence that Atlantis is/was in the West Indies apparantly.

Moreover, I don't care if it resurfaces (pun intended) as everyone from there would still be dead.

There's also archaeological evidence that Atlantis is/was in the West Indies apparantly.



That may explain how Native Americans came to the Americas, or maybe Atlantis was an ancient Native American tribe?

The so-called 'proof' behind the theories of Atlantis are little more than incredible speculation and assumption, all started by a couple of words in an ancient text -- written by a person who supposedly heard about it from a couple of priests, who were likely having a laugh at his expense at the time. Read 'The Atlantis Blueprint' or 'Fingerprints of the Gods' if you're after something entertaining, anyway.

As such, I find it highly unlikely that Atlantis has been discovered, nor will it be, as I see no real reason why we should assume it even existed.

That may explain how Native Americans came to the Americas, or maybe Atlantis was an ancient Native American tribe?

I thought most people these days accepted the existence of a now-lost land bridge between North America and North Asia?

Moreover, I don't care if it resurfaces (pun intended) as everyone from there would still be dead.
[Emphasis mine.]

...we hope.

--The Jovial States of Cogitation
"Laugh about it for a moment."
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I thought most people these days accepted the existence of a now-lost land bridge between North America and North Asia?
You mean the one connecting Kanchatka to the Alaska under the Bering Straits?
Nah, that theory is just TOO easy. they MUST have travelled by sea to Atlantis from the East and then moved on to North America.

[Emphasis mine.]

...we hope.

--The Jovial States of Cogitation
"Laugh about it for a moment."
NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court Jester
dun dun DUNNNNNN!!!!!!! :)

i have aol but i dont see the story

The so-called 'proof' behind the theories of Atlantis are little more than incredible speculation and assumption, all started by a couple of words in an ancient text -- written by a person who supposedly heard about it from a couple of priests, who were likely having a laugh at his expense at the time.

Worse. The whole story makes its first appearance in a fictional text. Plato made it up.

Puh, some say Atlantis is what is now Antarctica. Some think it was Ireland. Others think it was an Inca city at lake titicaca (sp). Australia. Skandinavia. Iceland. And so on. But no one can actually prove their claims. Although some seem more believebal then others.

Well, he did claim that it came from historical texts he had found.

But then, he also claimed that there's no such thing as a triangle on earth (.....and for my specialist subject tonight I choose.....PLATO!)

That may explain how Native Americans came to the Americas, or maybe Atlantis was an ancient Native American tribe?

The Native Americans, it is believed, are people who walked across the Bering Straits from what is now Asia.

Moreover, I don't care if it resurfaces (pun intended) as everyone from there would still be dead.

Um, not necessarily. The Chinese have been in Asia for a few thousand years... perhaps there might be descendants of such people SOMEWHERE.

Well, he did claim that it came from historical texts he had found.

But then, he also claimed that there's no such thing as a triangle on earth (.....and for my specialist subject tonight I choose.....PLATO!)

Yes... but Plato also "claimed" that they Myth of Er was related by Er himself after coming back from the dead.

Plato rarely meant his works to be taken literally. Hence the dialogue form. We have to think about who is saying what, and why. There was no Atlantis.

Yes... but Plato also "claimed" that they Myth of Er was related by Er himself after coming back from the dead.

Plato rarely meant his works to be taken literally. Hence the dialogue form. We have to think about who is saying what, and why. There was no Atlantis.
Whats Er? Emergency Room?

Well, my questioning of his authority was implied.........

And the Chinese came from the Proto-Indo humans who also gave Northern Europe and Asia their people, apparantly.

Oh yeah, and Atlantis isn't Ireland, Atlantians were apparantly a technologically advanced race, which counts us out.....

Yeah supposedly Plato's writings led the explorers to find the sunken city. Sounds credible, I bet it turns out corrrect. Archaeologists found troy a few years ago which was another city which wasn't really supposed to exist.

Sorry, guys, but I looked at AOL news, so I can't really give you a source.

Evidentally, someone believes he found Atlantis off of Cyprys. He has evidence, but he has not said anything (I just skimmed the article).

Think of it, though. Finding the Aincent Mythical City.

If Atlantis was found tomorrow, what would you do? Would you care? Would this spark anything?

I want your input.

iv heard Atlantis has been in many places, just today on CNN i heard someone say it was near Cypress, then in world issues class we talked about it being once apart of Cuba, where the crap is this place supose to be?

Yeah supposedly Plato's writings led the explorers to find the sunken city. Sounds credible, I bet it turns out corrrect. Archaeologists found troy a few years ago which was another city which wasn't really supposed to exist.
Well, it doesn't anymore. Brad Pitt and Sean Bean saw to that. And I think it was found a bit more then just a few years ago.

I thought it was found at the tail end of th e19th century, but I may be confusing it with Pompeii, honestly my archaeological history AINT what it used to be.......

And I'm not saying Atlantis never existed, I'm just saying it's not been founc, and probably wont be.

And it's NOT Ireland.

depends on if they call a "city they found underwater" Atlantis.

Besides, the original was probably destroyed, not sunk. Lot's of cities got flooded, Atlantis was HUGE no mere city, it was more of a small country in size.

If it were found It would probably prove my belief that there is no real super-civilization of Atlantis. Just a community of people who dissappeared. That is what it would mean.

[I added the stuff in brackets]

...we hope [they would be dead if Atlantis resurfaced].

We do? wouldn't that mean a)they had discovered the secret to (near) eternal life and b)they had also discovered how to live underwater and c)all this without modern technology?

Well, in all seriousness (Hahahaha!), wouldn't it be cool to find it?

If Atlantis was found tomorrow, what would you do? Would you care? Would this spark anything?I don't know...I don't know much about what it's supposed to be like, but here's a link claiming it's under the South China Sea.
http://www.atlan.org/
Bow down to Nianacio! It is the home of Atlantis! :D

[I added the stuff in brackets]

We do? wouldn't that mean a)they had discovered the secret to (near) eternal life and b)they had also discovered how to live underwater and c)all this without modern technology?
Do we want these secrets, waht with overpopulation of the world as it is????????

There's also archaeological evidence that Atlantis is/was in the West Indies apparantly.
If you're thinking of a giant 'wall' that's under water, from what I remember it's actually a natural rock formation. These things do pop up now and again. Much like the Giants causeway in Ireland looks like it must be artificial, but isn't.
Likewise a few years some ppl in NZ thought they had found an ancient wall, thousands of years old (thus well before the Maori landings) but on close inspection it turned out to be natural. Big square-shape blocks of rock can form naturally occasionally.

Also, from what I remember, isn't the only account we have is Plato's? That's what makes me think it didn't exist, for a few reasons.
For one, not everything Plato said was correct. He had such a command over the Western World all his pronouncements were assumed to be true for centuries. This has made Atlantis pretty much an ingrained part of our collective psyche.
Two, no other ancient story from any other source has ever been found to back him up.
Three, what's to say it wasn't just a nice story he decided to write to entertain/ Or one to prove some obscure philosophical point?

Sorry, guys, but I looked at AOL news, so I can't really give you a source.
Here's a link to the story (or a similar one) for you:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/30/1064819881656.html?oneclick=true
I like the end comment:
Holidaymakers in Ayia Napa were less impressed. "I couldn't care less," said one Briton. "If you're looking for Atlantis, I'll tell you where it is. It's on the left before you get to Larnaca ... the Atlantis Night Club Cabaret.
"But get there early if you want a seat - it gets quite full." :)

But then, he also claimed that there's no such thing as a triangle on earth (.....and for my specialist subject tonight I choose.....PLATO!)

Yes, but within Plato's philosophy, that statement concerning the lack of actual triangles is utterly correct - the only things which have real existence are the Forms themselves: any triangles that we may think we encounter are only illusory approximations to the Ideal triangle.

Yeah supposedly Plato's writings led the explorers to find the sunken city. Sounds credible, I bet it turns out corrrect. Archaeologists found troy a few years ago which was another city which wasn't really supposed to exist.

The existence of Troy was far more likely than the existence of Atlantis. Now, of course, it's infinitely more likely because we know it to exist. And I'm not entirely sure how Plato's 'writings', such as they were, led anybody to Atlantis... or anywhere else, for that matter.

Here's a link to the story (or a similar one) for you:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/30/1064819881656.html?oneclick=true
I like the end comment:
:)


And, on quite another subject, DH where did you get your signature quote from??? :p

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1098162.htm

ABC News also brought out an article.

Frankly, I'd be excited if it were true. There are all sorts of implications for this, especially should it turn out it wasn't just a prehistoric city, but actually did have technology highly advanced for that time.