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Personally I just love women. Their beautiful, soft-skinned, long legged, and intelligant individuals(well most of them anyways...) ;)

Anyways pick which sex you think is better(doesnt have to be for obvious and/or sexual reasons) and tell us why you think that sex is better.

under the age of 17-18 : men
over - women

basically, girls are whiney, self centered, and annoying. women and smarter and much less whiney.

Wow, this just screams flamebait *dons firesuit*

me

Men, hands down. Just live with a chick for a month or two and see if I'm wrong.

Neither is better than the other.

Anyways pick which sex you think is better(doesnt have to be for obvious and/or sexual reasons) and tell us why you think that sex is better.
[Emphasis mine.]

...but it can be, right? :D

--The Jovial States of Cogitation
"Laugh about it for a moment."
NationStates Self-Proclaimed Court Jester

...

Wow, this just screams flamebait *dons firesuit*
Not really, not in my opinion, anyway. I'm watching the topic, but I'm not particularly concerned; this looks safe enough.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
NationStates Game Moderator

It's a case by case basis really. I'd rather be a man when it comes to public toilets but I'd rather be a woman when it comes to being kicked in the yarbles.

It's a case by case basis really. I'd rather be a man when it comes to public toilets but I'd rather be a woman when it comes to being kicked in the yarbles.

lol that should be a quote

Men. Women can be awfully cold. :(

guys are better. We dont spend hundreds of dollars on shoes and can fix anything. Plus we dont have those womenly problems.

Men - explore your inner woman and grow.
Women - wouldn't you like a little more man in you.

See, we can all get along. :)

that's a tough one...

i'd say each sex balance balances the other out. like, i keep my boy from doing stupid crap and he keeps me from being a total bitch all the time. our system works well.

It's all so Vandreadian.

guys are better. We dont spend hundreds of dollars on shoes and can fix anything. Plus we dont have those womenly problems.

I can't fix a thing. Plus, I know plenty of guys who experience monthly mood swings that can only be described as PMS.

Me, I see strengths and weaknesses to both sexes. That's why I wear dresses alot: to blur the lines.

It's a comfort thing. Really, it is. Shut up.

Men can pee standing up. That's gotta be worth something!
(I won't say anything serious because I think the whole idea behind this debate is pretty silly in the first place)

Is "Tree" A legitimite answer? I dont like people much.

My girlfriend seems to find out about everything I ever say or do...so I'm gonna say women...Love ya Athenopolis/Morgendorffer Lane! *nervous laugh*

Women, because I am one.

Women are the epitome of creation. Softness concealing steel. Emotional intelligence beyond compare. Gentle, loving, creative, nurturing, sensual, wonderful ... WOMAN!

Well, men do run the world.

Women are the epitome of creation. Softness concealing steel. Emotional intelligence beyond compare. Gentle, loving, creative, nurturing, sensual, wonderful ... WOMAN!

Puhleeeeease. Creation? Where's the numbers for all that sexist crap? How many female composers throughout history compared to male? Ditto for artists, authors, architects, engineers?

Emotional intelligence? I don't see it. No more than the average male.

Sensual, sure. As in, enjoys getting boned by half the football team, sensual. Pfft.

under the age of 17-18 : men
over - women

basically, girls are whiney, self centered, and annoying. women and smarter and much less whiney.

I quote a song "older women are beautiful lovers..." i love that song

Neither is better than the other.

Yep.

Women are usually better, as long as they're not Feminazis (Aka Feminists) protesting men being alive
feminists had thier time, but it's not now, we have equal (or at least women arent being treated poorly anymore(Men are now taking over that feild) )
Feminists suck, we should get rid of them

All things considered, humans in general are a sad lot, and that I second Ravea's nomination of the Tree. Humor aside, I'm glad to be a man, though. My reasoning won't make sense to anyone who isn't a Dark Tower fan, so I'll shut up now.

From what I've seen at my highschool men are superior in pretty much every way. But the world isn't my highschool.

why all this sexist BS, Im sick of it, if I was to answer that Men are better, I'd be a horrible person and I'd be considered sexist, if i were to answer women, I'd be "Whipped"
think about it, no more sexism or anything else that's as completely inane as it

Both and neither.
I make friends, fall in love with a person. PERSON. Gender's only an issue if they make it one.
Or what to do between the sheets. .
As for whoever runs the world- oh,yeah. They're doing such a FINE job! (in case you missed it- that's SARCASM.)

Women.
Because 7 of 9 is hotter than Picard, and Scully is hotter than Mulder.

I don't see it. Sensual, sure. As in, enjoys getting boned by half the football team, sensual. Pfft.

Obviously, there are quite a lot of things you don't see. I pity you.

I can't decide...

I like being female, but those guys are just irresistable sometimes...

Then again, they can be ugly and jackasses. Of course, my fellow girls can be preppy little bitches too.

I think I'll go with les hommes, because although guys piss me off by hitting on me when they're unattractive and being gay when they're the best ever, girls outside my cool little bubble of an alternative school are bitchy and catty and OWW!

Women scare me because of their alien mindset and seemingly extra-terrestrial origins.

Men (my gender) annoy me with a seeming "cool" factor tied to immaturity and stupidity. My god, we can be morons at times. And insensitive and all that.

Honestly, looking up at the two presented sides, I'd say we're both pretty equal.

I like men and women?
Though there are some men and women who really piss me off...

Well, men do run the world.
That's what we let you believe. It's just part of the masterplan we have...hsss...

We both have our strengths and weaknesses. I don't think they make any sex superior, but..

To me women don't seem to be ambitious. Ever heard of a woman who wants to take over the world? Ambition is good, it gives live a purpose. It makes you give the best you've got, which is ultimately to the benefit of society. I want to take over the world, and i will! :D

....this post is stupid. Why is this even important? What could possibly be gained from discussing this, apart from some sort of idiotic justification for mindless sexual discrimination?

To me women don't seem to be ambitious. Ever heard of a woman who wants to take over the world? Ambition is good, it gives live a purpose. It makes you give the best you've got, which is ultimately to the benefit of society. I want to take over the world, and i will!
Ah, generalisations... Where would we be without them?

And theres a difference between realistic ambition and... building castles in the air. (I'm trying for diplomacy here)

To me women don't seem to be ambitious. Ever heard of a woman who wants to take over the world? Ambition is good, it gives live a purpose.

Unless that was some sort of joke I suggest you and everyone else making irrational generalisations back up your arguments right now with good evidence or argument.

Well faggots like men, and normal men like women.

Well faggots like men, and normal men like women.
This board really attracts the cream of the internet, does it not?

For the tough jobs requiring physical strength men make better slaves, and their simple-mindedness makes them easily subdued. However, women's tender flesh make them a delicassy amongst most civilized peoples and posess a greater degree of stamina that makes them good subject for experimentation.

We both have our strengths and weaknesses. I don't think they make any sex superior, but..

To me women don't seem to be ambitious. Ever heard of a woman who wants to take over the world? Ambition is good, it gives live a purpose. It makes you give the best you've got, which is ultimately to the benefit of society. I want to take over the world, and i will! :D
I've always wanted to take over the world. (and I'm a girl)
I'm not sure if I still want to.... it seems kind of pointless.
Although, I am probably smart enough to do it.....
We'll just have to see. Maybe after I've finished high school and college.

I've kind of been watching this thread.... just wanted to see what people were thinking. Personally I've always wanted to be a guy, just so I'd have people to play x-box with. There aren't many girls who love to play, and even the ones who do aren't very good. I don't have a problem playing with guys, but really there aren't any guys willing to play with girls. (well, and now I'm a teen, so having some guy over to play video games would look.... like we liked each other)
But then, being a girl can be fun to.
In the end I'd say it's about equal.

Men... they drink more beer

Nothing beats a dame.

Nothing beats a dame.
Muslims beat women....

....this post is stupid. Why is this even important? What could possibly be gained from discussing this, apart from some sort of idiotic justification for mindless sexual discrimination?

Would you rather people have a debate to decide whether cats or dogs are better than the other? It's pretty much the same thing.

I was going to make some kind of reply here but somehow it seems an exercise in futility. Women have their strengths, Men have theirs and neither seem better just different...

Ok some peeps seem to take this a bit to serious, this is not sexism are us (if it was it'd be a men only or women only thingy). But back to the question, i'd have to say Hermaphrodites (androgynous persons) simply to support the underdogs!

I was going to make some kind of reply here but somehow it seems an exercise in futility. Women have their strengths, Men have theirs and neither seem better just different...

Vive la diferance! Is that French? Day-um! :(

This seems kind of bias as to how most of the people in this game I'm presuming are guys, but girls are still better :-P

Women are usually better, as long as they're not Feminazis (Aka Feminists) protesting men being alive
feminists had thier time, but it's not now, we have equal (or at least women arent being treated poorly anymore(Men are now taking over that feild) )
Feminists suck, we should get rid of them

Aha! Another person who has bought into the idea that a few extremists (man-hating women) represent the whole (all feminists). That's like saying that all Americans are gun-toting, cousin-marrying morons... or that all men are misogynist jerks. It's just not so! Once again, let me pull up the definition of feminism:

Main Entry: fem•i•nism
Pronunciation: 'fe-m&-"ni-z&m
Function: noun
1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
2 : organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests
- fem•i•nist /-nist/ noun or adjective


Feminists want equitable treatment for women AND men. We don't all hate men...how can we when we are married to them, sired by them, related to them in various ways... you say that feminism had it's time and now we are equal. You show a surprising lack of global knowledge. Even in the industrialised Western countries, where equality is closer to becoming a reality, there are still blatant inequities. Did you know that Rwanda is the only country in the world to have a balanced representation of men and women in politics? Their record on gender equity in other areas is less than stirling, however. In many countries, women are still treated as chattel (property), and have little or no say over their own lives, much less the right to work or involve themselves in politics. To say that feminism is no longer needed is doing an injustice to the terrible position the MAJORITY of women on this Earth are still in. Just because you live in a country where women don't get forced into arranged marriages doesn't mean that women enjoy equity with men. Equity, not equality.

Main Entry: eq•ui•ty
Pronunciation: 'e-kw&-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Etymology: Middle English equite, from Middle French equité, from Latin aequitat-, aequitas, from aequus equal, fair
1 a : justice according to natural law or right; specifically : freedom from bias or favoritism

As for the topic of this thread...I find it very surprising that so few have mentioned how ridiculous it is. Who is better? You are implying that one gender has more value than the other. How incredibly sexist, no matter what your choice! We certainly are not equal (the same), and hooray for that! We can not make one gender subservient to another...it is counterproductive and based entirely on gender prejudices. There should be an option to choose "Neither...I value BOTH genders"!

That's what we let you believe. It's just part of the masterplan we have...hsss...

I knew someone would answer that, and it was you.

Obviously, there are quite a lot of things you don't see. I pity you.

Blah blah blah. Obviously there a quite a lot of things everyone doesn't see.

Unless we happen to be omniscient.

As it turns out, the only omniscient individual (rumored to be) in existence is God, who is, I hear, male. But don't let me detract from your condescending cluck-clucking ad hominem digressions by addressing the topic instead!

Muslims beat women....

Oh boy...ANOTHER generalisation. Carefull...your prejudice is showing...

Women. Who else can make babies and which one is more sensative?

I take it on a case by case basis, because the majority of both sexes are idiots/assholes. But, personally, I'd rather be a man becase a. NO PERIOD and b. NO CHILDBIRTH. Who cares about getting kicked in the balls? It may hurt, but it doesn't last as long as any of the above.

Bah. I can't choose on a sexual basis either because I'm bisexual. Oh noes.

Muslims beat women....

*cracks up*

Blah blah blah. Obviously there a quite a lot of things everyone doesn't see.

Unless we happen to be omniscient.

As it turns out, the only omniscient individual (rumored to be) in existence is God, who is, I hear, male. But don't let me detract from your condescending cluck-clucking ad hominem digressions by addressing the topic instead!

LOL! Well, God isn't male or female, I wasn't trying to be "condescending," and I was responding to another post. :)

how is this still going on? we should have won by now hehe :)

Unless we happen to be omniscient.

As it turns out, the only omniscient individual (rumored to be) in existence is God, who is, I hear, male. But don't let me detract from your condescending cluck-clucking ad hominem digressions by addressing the topic instead!

Normally I don't brag, but I can't let you go on without correcting this obvious error.

I, too, happen to be omniscient, and I'm female. And no, I would not do God if He were the last superior being in the cosmos.

Normally I don't brag, but I can't let you go on without correcting this obvious error.

I, too, happen to be omniscient, and I'm female. And no, I would not do God if He were the last superior being in the cosmos.

LOL! Oh, BROTHER! :rolleyes:

LOL! Oh, BROTHER! :rolleyes:

I knew you would say that. ;)

Women are usually better, as long as they're not Feminazis (Aka Feminists) protesting men being alive
feminists had thier time, but it's not now, we have equal (or at least women arent being treated poorly anymore(Men are now taking over that feild) )
Feminists suck, we should get rid of them

Doh, shut your trap. Im a feminist, and im not even female. If you cant see that women are generally being discriminated against, and that this is wrong, you should open your eyes.

That beeing said, women are way better. They smell better, they look a lot better (generally), and when women tries to take over the world it is cool and sexy, but when men do it, they have to have a cute cat they can stroke, just to look a bit less stupid. And they still manage to tell the people intent on stopping them their master plans. Gah.

Aha! Another person who has bought into the idea that a few extremists (man-hating women) represent the whole (all feminists). That's like saying that all Americans are gun-toting, cousin-marrying morons... or that all men are misogynist jerks. It's just not so! Once again, let me pull up the definition of feminism:

Actually, from what I've seen, feminists DO hate all men.

Feminists want equitable treatment for women AND men. We don't all hate men...how can we when we are married to them, sired by them, related to them in various ways... you say that feminism had it's time and now we are equal. You show a surprising lack of global knowledge. Even in the industrialised Western countries, where equality is closer to becoming a reality, there are still blatant inequities. Did you know that Rwanda is the only country in the world to have a balanced representation of men and women in politics? Their record on gender equity in other areas is less than stirling, however. In many countries, women are still treated as chattel (property), and have little or no say over their own lives, much less the right to work or involve themselves in politics. To say that feminism is no longer needed is doing an injustice to the terrible position the MAJORITY of women on this Earth are still in. Just because you live in a country where women don't get forced into arranged marriages doesn't mean that women enjoy equity with men. Equity, not equality.

The person who wrote this post should worry about, "equality," in their own nation. There is NOTHING anyone can do about foriegn nations except bomb the Hell outta them, (which generally won't work in this case).

As for the topic of this thread...I find it very surprising that so few have mentioned how ridiculous it is. Who is better? You are implying that one gender has more value than the other. How incredibly sexist, no matter what your choice! We certainly are not equal (the same), and hooray for that! We can not make one gender subservient to another...it is counterproductive and based entirely on gender prejudices. There should be an option to choose "Neither...I value BOTH genders"!

I bet.

12.ANYTHING YOU CAN DO
ANNIE OAKLEY, FRANK BUTLER and CHORUS:

ANNIE OAKLEY FRANK BUTLER:
Anything you can do,
I can do better.
I can do anything
Better than you.

No, you can't.
Yes, I can. No, you can't.
Yes, I can. No, you can't.
Yes, I can,
Yes, I can!

Anything you can be
I can be greater.
Sooner or later,
I'm greater than you.

No, you're not. Yes, I am.
No, you're not. Yes, I am.
No, you're NOT!. Yes, I am.
Yes, I am!

I can shoot a partridge
With a single cartridge.
I can get a sparrow
With a bow and arrow.
I can live on bread and cheese.
And only on that?
Yes.
So can a rat!
Any note you can reach
I can go higher.
I can sing anything
Higher than you.
No, you can't. (High)
Yes, I can. (Higher) No, you can't. (Higher)
Yes, I can. (Higher) No, you can't. (Higher)
Yes, I can. (Higher) No, you can't. (Higher)
Yes, I can. (Higher) No, you can't. (Higher)
Yes, I CAN! (Highest)

Anything you can buy
I can buy cheaper.
I can buy anything
Cheaper than you.

Fifty cents?
Forty cents! Thirty cents?
Twenty cents! No, you can't!
Yes, I can,
Yes, I can!
Anything you can say
I can say softer.
I can say anything
Softer than you.
No, you can't. (Softly)
Yes, I can. (Softer) No, you can't. (Softer)
Yes, I can. (Softer) No, you can't. (Softer)
Yes, I can. (Softer)
YES, I CAN! (Full volume)
I can drink my liquor
Faster than a flicker.
I can drink it quicker
And get even sicker!
I can open any safe.
Without bein' caught?
Sure.
That's what I thought--
you crook!
Any note you can hold
I can hold longer.
I can hold any note
Longer than you.

No, you can't.
Yes, I can No, you can't.
Yes, I can No, you can't.
Yes, I can
Yes, I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I No, you C-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-N'T--
CA-A-A-A-N! (Cough, cough!)
Yes, you ca-a-a-an!

Anything you can wear
I can wear better.
In what you wear
I'd look better than you.
In my coat?
In your vest! In my shoes?
In your hat! No, you can't!
Yes, I can
Yes, I CAN!
Anything you say
I can say faster.
I can say anything
Faster than you.
No, you can't. (Fast)
Yes, I can. (Faster) No, you can't. (Faster)
Yes, I can. (Faster) Noyoucan't. (Faster)
YesIcan! (Fastest)
I can jump a hurdle.
I can wear a girdle.
I can knit a sweater.
I can fill it better!
I can do most anything!
Can you bake a pie? No.
Neither can I.
Anything you can sing
I can sing sweeter.
I can sing anything
Sweeter than you.
No, you can't. (Sweetly)
Yes, I can. (Sweeter) No, you can't. (Sweeter)
Yes, I can. (Sweeter) No, you can't. (Sweeter)
Yes, I can. (Sweeter) No, you can't, can't, can't (sweeter)
Yes, I can, can, can (Sugary)

Yes, I can! No, you can't!

Both have their strengths and weaknesses, but I LOVE being a girl :).

I would however (given the chance) be a "guy for a day", just to see what it was like. I think it would be rather interesting.

When women tries to take over the world it is cool and sexy, but when men do it, they have to have a cute cat they can stroke, just to look a bit less stupid. And they still manage to tell the people intent on stopping them their master plans. Gah.


Women NEVER try to take over the world. They are only ever sexy agents under the true villian, and are only there as eye candy, nameless secretaries, or hideously ugly old German women who scream incessently. The GUY is always the villian, just like the hero who saves the day is also a GUY. Good women always die in these flicks, or get the hero in more trouble. :mp5:

Women.

Men's advantage over women is that they are physically stronger.

Women's over men is that they have empathy and emotional intelligence.

Nowadays, physical strength has little to do with success.

Forgive me for being lazy and not having read the whole thread! I just wanted to make a remark on feminism...the problem with it in general is that there is no one agreed feminist perspective. Some strands of feminist theory freely acknowledge men and womens' differences, and seek to 'celebrate' them while still maintaining equality. It's very tiny fringe groups of radical feminists that believe they're better than men and should be superior. Feminism in general, in my opinion, is both poorly named and represented. The overwhelming majority seek equality, not superiority; therefore, I personally think the word 'equalitism' (!!!) would be a better umbrella term to describe feminist ideals. Also, the traditional view of feminists is that they're bra-burning, moustache growing, man haters - but as someone said above, that's simply not the case (it would be difficult to function without men...also, moustaches don't suit all men never mind women, and most now accept that bras are just a practical necessity given the female body shape!).

Believing the media image of feminism, I despised it with a burning passion. When I actually studied the real ideals of it in the final year of my degree, I realised I actually agreed with a lot of the (more mainstream) ideas, which was a shock! I always believed in equality, and was never in agreement with the 'women are better than men' idea; as I say, it turned out that belief in equality was broadly feminist!

OK...to answer the question...despite all of the above, I get on a lot better with men than I do with women (in case you hadn't gathered it, I *am* a woman ;)). As a general rule, I prefer stereotypical male passtimes and have stereotypical male emotions and thoughts. However, I don't think men are better than women - I just think my interests tally better with those of men. It doesn't mean that usual female emotions/beliefs/activities/etc are any better than mine!

Sorry to go on forever!

Men can pee standing up. That's gotta be worth something!
(I won't say anything serious because I think the whole idea behind this debate is pretty silly in the first place)


You stole that right out of FRIENDS

:headbang: cause in most cases women are more unstable. Could be (& r sexy & loving) but depends on what mood their in, & their mood swings are more sudden and extreme.

If a guy had the mood swings and emotinal reasoning that most women do than he would be diagnosed with some sort of Phycological problem!

Women NEVER try to take over the world. They are only ever sexy agents under the true villian, and are only there as eye candy, nameless secretaries, or hideously ugly old German women who scream incessently. The GUY is always the villian, just like the hero who saves the day is also a GUY. Good women always die in these flicks, or get the hero in more trouble. :mp5:

If a woman "tried" to take over the world it would already be taken over that's all there is to it. Excuse me, the guy isn't always the protagonist nor the antagonist... For example-- Cat woman (Villain), Wonder Woman (Hero). There's a lot more, and this doesn't even matter in a 'real-world' situation. There would be likily an "enemy" or an "ally" depending on which country or group you were in at the time. Hero's wouldn't really come into play nor would villain's because in the real world it's not single people that do these things but nations or groups. Example: America claims itself independant -- Who was the good guy and who was the bad guy? I'm sure if you were English you would think the Americans were the bad guys and flip for the Americans believing the English were the bad guys. Thus, you're entire post nullifies itself.

Well, men do run the world.


Clearly you've never heard the saying, "Behind any good man is a better woman," ;)

So, on that Woman are better because without us men would just dress badly and say/do dumb stuff :) .

Kidding, I LOVE GUYS!!!!!

Women have their faults (nagging, bitching, and generally being too sensitive).

Conclusion: Neither is Better, they Rock together!!!!

Puhleeeeease. Creation? Where's the numbers for all that sexist crap? How many female composers throughout history compared to male? Ditto for artists, authors, architects, engineers?

Emotional intelligence? I don't see it. No more than the average male.

Sensual, sure. As in, enjoys getting boned by half the football team, sensual. Pfft.

Congratulations! You win the award for the most ignorant and brainless comment on the thread! I bet you get lots of women with that attitude. Because, like you said, they just "enjoy getting boned by multiple men", so all you have to do is bring along all your mates and ask them for sex, right? Also, comparing the numbers of male to female composers etc. is hardly any basis for comparison, because, in case you were ignorant of this too, up until recent times the world was brutally maleocentric; woman COULDN'T be any of the above, regardless of how much talent they might've had. Even now we live in a maleocentric society, but it is a lot more relaxed than in the past.

I am a guy, and my sexual preference is for women at that, but I still much prefer women. I don't believe in equality on any other field, but I do on the issue of sex. What can I guy do that a woman can't, and vice-versa? Apart from obvious, biological things such as having a baby. I think that each sex has faults of its own just as much as the other, however it is moronic, testosterone induced attitudes such as the one above that makes me spend all my time with women.

Ask yourself, what makes a man or a woman? Is it the attitude? Is it the biology? If it's the former, then I'm a woman, the latter, I'm a man. I walk like a woman, I talk like a woman, I usually think like a woman. I prefer to go shopping and try on dresses than to watch/play sports and sit back with a beer. I can't stand cars, but I love gossip and watching girly movies. I'll do make up with my girl friends, but I won't go to the pub with a bunch of guys. But in the reverse, I also like typically masculine things, such as joining the military, skateboarding, playing computer games (I know, it's not masculine, but it is considered that way), I date women, etc. So what does that make me?

The issue of sex is all in the mind. In the womb we all start out the same, and when we're six feet under we all decompose in the same way. The only differences between men and women are biological. Yes, hormones urge us to act in a certain way, and I've no doubt my femininity comes from an excess of oestrogen compared to a normal guy. However, oestrogen doesn't mean that the person is going to be bitchy, slutty, stupid or a man-hater, and testosterone doesn't mean the person is going to be idiotic, ignorant, oafish and agressive. You're the one who decides how you turn out, hormones are a guide, don't use them as a crutch or an excuse. Open your mind and consider the possibility that we're all the same when it comes down to it, and stereotypes just don't fit. Yes, there are some women out there who might enjoy to elope with multiple men, but they don't ALL like that, so don't assume it. The same goes for men, I, for one, revile the thought of being with several women.

This is not to say that this argument is pointless. Hell, I love to argue and will jump at the oppurtunity. :D Just saying, people should be less ignorant and sexist when it comes to this topic.

Women... assuming they are not feminist. Come on: women can cook, clean, sew... I can barely do any of those things. :p

Women are usually better, as long as they're not Feminazis (Aka Feminists) protesting men being alive
feminists had thier time, but it's not now, we have equal (or at least women arent being treated poorly anymore(Men are now taking over that feild) )
Feminists suck, we should get rid of them
Feminists are OK, just the Female Supremacists (aka feminazis) are evil.

:mp5: Men are better because when we start something we finish it even though it might be late we still get it done. Like the wars men started them and ended them where as women would have been complaing that they broke a nail on d-day or sumat daft like that :mp5:

I knew you would say that. ;)

Oh really? Then in future I will refrain from replying to your posts, allowing you to give full reign to your omnisience. :)

Both have their strengths and weaknesses, but I LOVE being a girl :).

I would however (given the chance) be a "guy for a day", just to see what it was like. I think it would be rather interesting.

You would find yourself strangely drawn to beer, sports programs and "action" games, and would probably be in a perpetual state of advanced excitation! LOL! :D

Women and Men are totally different. Naturally I'd say women are better! In response to earlier comments about womanly problems and shoe affixiations...
Ye all won't be here if ye're mothers didn't have 'womanly problems'. It's not our fault that we get PMS, you try having 8 hour cramps for 2 days and the occassional vomiting spurt. It's completely draining.
As for shoes...they're so pretty! There is nothing wrong with buying loads of shoes. Due to the general small height of women we simply must invest in several (hundred if you can afford it) pairs of shoes..a pair for every colour of the rainbow..A
And bags..lots of bags.
Men have car parts and computer games and 'secret' stashes of certain hugh hefner publications etc.
Any way shoes are therapy so leave them alone..if anyone has a problem with this then..its hand bags at dawn!
Women Rule.....Men are also good for certain things..I'll leave it up to ye're imaginations :fluffle:

The hand that rocks the cradle really does rule the world.

A boys best friend is his mother. Whats that mother? Please, I don't want to have to kill her, mother! Please!


"Maybe I should get off the line so you can talk to another mother killer!"-Norman Bates

Their beautiful, soft-skinned, long legged, and intelligant individuals(well most of them anyways...) ;)


I could say the same for men ;)

Everybody has their what they do best categories. Typically women are better at some tings while men are better at other things. On the individual aspects there are of course always shades of gray and outliers.

Wow the polls are very close......(reminds me of the 2000 election in a way)

Wow the polls are very close......(reminds me of the 2000 election in a way)
Currently running at precisely 61 to 61. There's a message in there somewhere ........ or a mod edit.

was 62 to 61 in favor of men. Voted women to make it back to 50/50 :)

hah the women still won(even though the polls were very close, I thought it would be a landslide victory for the women but owell)

poll aside, I'd just like to point this out. Despite claims of superior emotion, women have made multiple statements on this topic that lack control of the emotion arrogance. You defeat your claim of intelligence with stupidity. I quote:

If a woman "tried" to take over the world it would already be taken over - The Jen

I, too, happen to be omniscient, and I'm female. - Fnordish Infantry

(In reference to a statment pointing out that men do, in fact occupy most governmental positions of power. That's statistical, not arrogance, mind. )
That's what we let you believe. It's just part of the masterplan we have...hsss... - Helioterra

One notes that women have to lie in order to feel they're making a valid argument. That's not emotionally intelligent. I'm done now.

poll aside, I'd just like to point this out. Despite claims of superior emotion, women have made multiple statements on this topic that lack control of the emotion arrogance. You defeat your claim of intelligence with stupidity. I quote:

If a woman "tried" to take over the world it would already be taken over - The Jen

I, too, happen to be omniscient, and I'm female. - Fnordish Infantry

(In reference to a statment pointing out that men do, in fact occupy most governmental positions of power. That's statistical, not arrogance, mind. )
That's what we let you believe. It's just part of the masterplan we have...hsss... - Helioterra

One notes that women have to lie in order to feel they're making a valid argument. That's not emotionally intelligent. I'm done now.

You do realize that those statements were made with sarcasm, right?

Men. Women can't urinate out of a speeding car.

That's stupid isn't it? Why should men be better cause they can urinate out a speeding car?
If they are better then at least give a decent reason. I mean, come on.

I'd have to say that both are on pretty equal terms. Men a strong and when things go wrong, they have a way of making you feel safe (Especially my boy). But women are more sensitive and understanding... AND RELIABLE!!!

I am reminded of two quotes by a distinguished American hero. Can you guess who he was?

"I have a hammer! I can put things together! I can take things apart! I can alter my environment while making a horrible din the entire time! Ah, it's great to be a male!"

"What's it like being a girl? Is it like being a bug? I imagine both bugs and girls have a dim perception that nature played a cruel joke on them, but they lack the intelligence to really comprehend the magnitude of it."

Ah, yes, but in all seriousness (the above quotes were quoted precisely because they are so very wrong IMO), I would say it depends on the circumstance. Guys in my experience are great company when you want to go hiking or fishing or to a strip club. On the other hand, cuddling someone with a hairy back just isn't my idea of a good time. To the extent that I like to do. . .er, most of the above (again, sarcasm. . . no really, I'm serious), I have a need for companionship with people of both genders equally.

:mp5: Men are better because when we start something we finish it even though it might be late we still get it done. Like the wars men started them and ended them where as women would have been complaing that they broke a nail on d-day or sumat daft like that :mp5:

:eek: *Cigalle's jaw drops in amazement at the ignorance and stupidity of man eating cows and many other people on this thread*

Guys in my experience are great company when you want to go hiking or fishing or to a strip club

That's because women (and a lot of men) realise how derogatory and exploitative strip clubs are.

That's because women (and a lot of men) realise how derogatory and exploitative strip clubs are.

Apparently you didn't notice how sarcastic I was. . .which is odd, because I mentioned it twice.

That's stupid isn't it? Why should men be better cause they can urinate out a speeding car?
If they are better then at least give a decent reason. I mean, come on.

:rolleyes: Yes I actually think that men are superior to women because they can urinate from a speeding car. Please don't make me start putting little </sarcasm>s at the end of posts...

Being devoutly religous I would be forcd to say that indeed men are better. According to the Bible women are ships of the devil and easily decieved. It also pretty much says that it is a mans world. Therefore I come to the conclusion that men are better and women are just here to serve us.

Neither is better than the other.

so true

From a purely objective point of view, I would have to go with women (though I'm male myself). Simply because humans could technically still reproduce without males through cloning and such (ask the scientists). And that is all I have to say.

id have to say women because your mom is much better than most men...(sry it just ahd to be said...)

I am reminded of two quotes by a distinguished American hero. Can you guess who he was?

"I have a hammer! I can put things together! I can take things apart! I can alter my environment while making a horrible din the entire time! Ah, it's great to be a male!"

"What's it like being a girl? Is it like being a bug? I imagine both bugs and girls have a dim perception that nature played a cruel joke on them, but they lack the intelligence to really comprehend the magnitude of it."

Ah, yes, but in all seriousness (the above quotes were quoted precisely because they are so very wrong IMO), I would say it depends on the circumstance. Guys in my experience are great company when you want to go hiking or fishing or to a strip club. On the other hand, cuddling someone with a hairy back just isn't my idea of a good time. To the extent that I like to do. . .er, most of the above (again, sarcasm. . . no really, I'm serious), I have a need for companionship with people of both genders equally.


I know, do you want me to say here? What do i get?

Apparently you didn't notice how sarcastic I was. . .which is odd, because I mentioned it twice.

oops :( sorry...

it's getting hard to separate the serious responses from the jokes. For example the post by Oauru.....is that a joke? We can only hope.

I quote a song "older women are beautiful lovers..." i love that song

The Statler Bros., I love that song. Anywho women are better, until you end up like me and in the friend zone. That'll piss ya off. Seems like everytime I meet a girl I somehow end up in the friend zone, we still party together and I will get a little peek sometimes but I never can close the deal. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

The Statler Bros., I love that song. Anywho women are better, until you end up like me and in the friend zone. That'll piss ya off. Seems like everytime I meet a girl I somehow end up in the friend zone, we still party together and I will get a little peek sometimes but I never can close the deal. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

Well maybe your trying to hard to be a nice guy(which women want as their friends) try being a typical arrogant asshole to a woman and im sure you and her will be getting it on in no time ;)

Congratulations! You win the award for the most ignorant and brainless comment on the thread!

Aw, shucks! Really, it was nothing!

I bet you get lots of women with that attitude.

Whether I do or don't hardly has any relevance to the truthfulness of what I wrote. Or do you think life is all about a competition, who gets the most women, and he who gets the most is somehow more correct? Less brainless? Sounds like you sorta think that.

Because, like you said, they just "enjoy getting boned by multiple men", so all you have to do is bring along all your mates and ask them for sex, right?

They do, but I didn't say that was *all* they enjoyed.

Furthermore, your second statement doesn't follow logically. Assuming women enjoy getting boned by multiple men, does not mean women instantly acquiesce to any request involving that.

Also, comparing the numbers of male to female composers etc. is hardly any basis for comparison, because, in case you were ignorant of this too, up until recent times the world was brutally maleocentric; woman COULDN'T be any of the above, regardless of how much talent they might've had. Even now we live in a maleocentric society, but it is a lot more relaxed than in the past.

Huh. I suppose Clara Schumann COULDN'T have written all that music, then, due to brutal "maleocentricity." Musta been a man?

The truth is women could, especially in fields like music (which women, especially upper class, were taught in) but the raw talent pool was evidently smaller.

It IS a basis of comparison... just because you don't like the results doesn't invalidate the basis or relevance to the thread.

Whereas your ad hominem arguments are totally irrelevant and show only that you feel threatened by what I say.

Ask yourself, what makes a man or a woman? Is it the attitude? Is it the biology? If it's the former, then I'm a woman, the latter, I'm a man. I walk like a woman, I talk like a woman, I usually think like a woman.

Would that explain your inability to rationally address subjects without overflow of estrogen?


Open your mind and consider the possibility that we're all the same when it comes down to it, and stereotypes just don't fit.

If we're all the same, stereotypes do fit. In fact, isn't "we're all the same" your stereotype?

If we're not all the same, stereotypes still fit, since all stereotypes have at least a kernel of truth to them.

The same goes for men, I, for one, revile the thought of being with several women.

Lie.

In a natural environment the male is supieror, it is the males responsiblity to provide. In a primitive society the males have complete control and the females are usually highly valued assets of the male. From this point Men begin to further the society, they construct, and invent tools, weapons, and recently machines. Machines begain to save people hours of labor and time. Soon it was not long until machines such as the stove, dish washer, washer, dryer, and fridge etc. could be found in all households. These machines created by men began saving the common domestic house wife hours upon hours. The need for the female in the family to take care of such work began to dimish. Soon the average women becomes educated with the new found spare time provided by the machines. Women become educated, education leads to questioning. When people a large group of educated people have much spare time they begin to question the rules of society, thus we have a civil rights movement.

Women are mentally equal to males (do not confuse this with organazational skills! ON AVERAGE THEY DOMINATE IN THAT). Once the society the men have created no longer requires physical strength Women and Men become equals.

Of course women did provide plenty of support to the men while they were creating the society but there role in society as we know it creation as the man.

The stereotypes of women (matieralistic) Men (immature) are not natural but simply a biproduct of our culture. Therefore you cannot judge either gender upon this. From a health standpoint men are much better though, we are much less likely to develop many diseases.

Well, I am a man, but alas, so is George W. Bush... so women it is.

Well, I am a man, but alas, so is George W. Bush... so women it is.
LOL that is great and so true

Well, I am a man, but alas, so is George W. Bush... so women it is.


heh good thinking :)

under the age of 17-18 : men
over - women

basically, girls are whiney, self centered, and annoying. women and smarter and much less whiney.

Are you kidding. I'm a guy, voited for girls. Most guys are egotistical pricks. Then again I'm a homo so i dunno.

Clearly men are supirior. Women can't even figure out the importance of being able to piss from a speeding car!

:D

Well to sleep with I prefer a man but for friendship I prefer women, and I think barring extraordinary specimens like Goran Visnjic, or Antonio Banderas, well men are aesthetically less pleasing than women. That's why men paint so many pictures of women, men agree women are far more beautiful.

Whether I do or don't hardly has any relevance to the truthfulness of what I wrote. Or do you think life is all about a competition, who gets the most women, and he who gets the most is somehow more correct? Less brainless? Sounds like you sorta think that.

No, that was not the point of the comment at all. The point of the comment was that your statements are ignorant and sexist, and that with an attitude like that you would turn the average girl away. I don't get many girls myself, but I don't turn them away with my sexist attitude - because it doesn't exist.

They do, but I didn't say that was *all* they enjoyed.

Again, showing your ignorance. How many girls do you actually talk to? Go ask how many of them actually enjoy that. You do realise that pornographic videos aren't representative of real life, don't you?

The truth is women could, especially in fields like music (which women, especially upper class, were taught in) but the raw talent pool was evidently smaller.

That is absolute bollocks. Have you even read a history book before? Let's go back a long way, to ancient Athens. Women were not seen and not heard. They weren't allowed out of the house, they couldn't be educated beyond what they learnt from family tutors and what not, they didn't even get called by first names. They were "the wife of (man)", or "the second daughter of (man)" etc. If we move forward in time to, say, Rome, they get a bit more freedom, but anything a woman did had to be behind the main scene. They were allowed to SUGGEST to a man, though it was frowned upon still, but they couldn't walk in and say I want this done, or do it themselves. You want more recent times? Shakespearian England, women couldn't be actors, they couldn't have jobs, they were banned from public schools and tutored at home. Yes, they were taught music and composition, and expected to play at home to the entertainment of family and friends, but anything a woman tried to publicise would be met with the most harsh resistance possible, and if it did manage to air itself, it would be looked upon with utter disdain. It wasn't until the industrial ages that women were finally given some freedom to join in on the arts and composition, and here we see an increasing number of them. One person comes to mind, though her name eludes me, is the Swedish singer of the 1800's (1840's I think) that was an astounding international success, very popular in the US. A female singer before this time that wasn't in an opera was frowned upon and hardly given the chance to excel.

Whereas your ad hominem arguments are totally irrelevant and show only that you feel threatened by what I say.

Hardly. I'm secure in the fact that I know what you're saying is incorrect and comes from ignorance.

Would that explain your inability to rationally address subjects without overflow of estrogen?

I am rationally discussing the subject. I attacked you at the outset because this degree of sexism is something that angers me, but if you didn't notice, I ceased to make any assaults and to simply argue each point. I will not deny that my thoughts have a bent on oestrogen, but I do still have testosterone, and I can see both sides of the coin. Like I said, I believe in equality. I still have male friends, and I still participate in male activities.

If we're all the same, stereotypes do fit. In fact, isn't "we're all the same" your stereotype?

If we're not all the same, stereotypes still fit, since all stereotypes have at least a kernel of truth to them.

"We're all the same" is used in the utmost broadest sense possible. What I mean by that is we're all Humans, we all have the same basic biology, we all start out the same, we all end the same. We all have the chance to mould ourselves how we want. You can't stereotype men, because there will always be outliers, I am a perfect example of that. You can't stereotype women either, for the same reason, and I have female friends that personify that example too, being far more masculine than I myself am. Stereotypes may have some, slight, totally obscured, half-truths in them, for SOME people... then again, some people might fit the stereotype to the tee, but I could then go out and find a hundred thousand that don't fit it at all.

Lie.

Not at all. I am a one woman man. I don't go out looking for girls to pick up at bars, I don't have sex with random women, and I don't wish to elope with multiple women. I come into relationships by having a discussion with someone, finding them captivating and asking them out on a date, or they develop from what began as a friendship. Once I am in a relationship, it will take me several weeks until I wish to sleep with the girl, at which point I only want that girl and no others present. Sex isn't something primeval and indulgent to me, I don't do it to have wild, lustful sex with multiple people. I do it because I have strong feelings for a person and I want to share something special and intimate with them. As such, having multiple people is pointless, because I'm not sharing anything special with them, it's the former description.

Again, this is hardly the stereotype for a guy now, is it?

NB: While I despise you for your sexism, I love a good argument and I respect you for your ability to keep me on my toes.

As a historian I hate making a loose statement without evidence. Jenny Lind, Swedish superstar singer, made her debut in Berlin, 1844. Popular across Europe and in the US: http://www.sweden.se/templates/FactSheet____5789.asp

Are you kidding. I'm a guy, voited for girls. Most guys are egotistical pricks. Then again I'm a homo so i dunno.

So am I. I'm egotistical, selfish and not nice at all to anyone I don't consider a close friend. Like I said before, I don't believe on equality on any level apart from the issue of sex, simply because I don't see any reason for there to be discrimination between the two.

it's getting hard to separate the serious responses from the jokes. For example the post by Oauru.....is that a joke? We can only hope.

I don't think it was a joke, and this is precisely why I so strongly revile organised religion. They are the source of many a prejudiced and discriminatory attitude, especially concerning women and alternative sexual choices.

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The stereotypes of women (matieralistic) Men (immature) are not natural but simply a biproduct of our culture. Therefore you cannot judge either gender upon this. From a health standpoint men are much better though, we are much less likely to develop many diseases.
Though we do have an unfortunate tendency to drop dead younger.

From a purely objective point of view, I would have to go with women (though I'm male myself). Simply because humans could technically still reproduce without males through cloning and such (ask the scientists). And that is all I have to say.

Ahh, but why is reproduction necessarily a good thing? :D
I think I'm going to vote the third write in for Trees.

Trees are nice.

And often green.

Except in the fall when they're bright orange and yellow.







Except for evergreens.

God, what a stupid question. We both suck. Men have both wonderful and horrible qualities. Women have both wonderful and horrible qualities. Why must we discriminate? Stop the fucking hate!

Well women dont like being roeshamboed* either imagine it hurts less

Women are bitches at any time 0 to BITCH in 4 seconds

Men can pee standing up

Men can fix stuff

I vote men are better but i love womenjust need to keep them under your thumb :D