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After seeing some scores on history exams in the US, a question popped in my mind. The most widely missed question was about the first triumverent.
Ok there are 4 different ways of spelling - triumverete, triumvirate, triumvirete, and triumverent

So here is my question:
1) Do you know what the original Triumverent was?

2) Do you know who made up the original Triumverent?

Now I know European schools are better, on the whole, then the US's; but I like to see some of us prove it. Give your conutry too, that helps tell why you dont know. (US student)

Give it your best, if you come up with some of the other Triumverents you get extra points. Yes, there were more than one Triumverent.

Never heard of it, but I'm 14 so it might be yet to come.

If I had some background context I might be able to recall. Is this a reference to Rome? What time period is it a reference to?

By Triumverant are you refering to the ruling group of three that first Caesar and latter Agustus were part of, Caesar in the first with I belive Polepy(sp) and some other dude and Agustus in the seconed one?

By Triumverant are you refering to the ruling group of three that first Caesar and latter Agustus were part of, Caesar in the first with I belive Polepy(sp) and some other dude and Agustus in the seconed one?
Triumvirate.

By Triumverant are you refering to the ruling group of three that first Caesar and latter Agustus were part of, Caesar in the first with I belive Polepy(sp) and some other dude and Agustus in the seconed one?
Ceasar, Pompey, and Crassus
yes and same august was in one too

and no this is a way spelled triumverent, but it depends on how you are using it also.

Ceasar, Pompey, and Crassus yes and same august was

and no this i spelled triumverent, but it depends on how you are using it also.

Pompey :rolleyes: damn I new I was geting it wrong. Do you happen to remeber who was in it along with August I keep wanting to say Mark Antony but I just can't seem to remember clearly :(

Pompey :rolleyes: damn I new I was geting it wrong. Do you happen to remeber who was in it along with August I keep wanting to say Mark Antony but I just can't seem to remember clearly :(
Octavian, Mark Antony, and Marcus Lepidus

If I had some background context I might be able to recall. Is this a reference to Rome? What time period is it a reference to?
Yes

Octavian, Mark Antony, and Marcus Lepidus
and you win the million dollar question. That is correct. Come down and clam your prise. One free pass to teach americans about the Triumverent.

Caesar, Pompey and Crassus comprised a Roman Triumverate.

Napoleon, Sieyes, and Ducos made up the French Triumverate (Napoleon eliminated Sieyes and Ducos quickly to become the sole Consul)

There was also the Octavian, Mark Antony, Marcus Lepidus Triumverate, but that is the least worthy of mention of the three.

Ceasar, Pompey, and Crassus yes and same august was

and no this i spelled triumverent, but it depends on how you are using it also.
OK, I know what the Triumvirate is. I learned about it in seventh grade history.
"A table with three legs can stand while a table with two cannot."

OK, I know what the Triumvirate is. I learned about it in seventh grade history.
"A table with three legs can stand while a table with two cannot."
Nice.

As for question one, why was it formed/what did they do?

Caesar, Pompey and Crassus comprised a Roman Triumverate.

Napoleon, Sieyes, and Ducos made up the French Triumverate (Napoleon eliminated Sieyes and Ducos quickly to become the sole Consul)

There was also the Octavian, Mark Antony, Marcus Lepidus Triumverate, but that is the least worthy of mention of the three.
Bravo monsieur, Tres bien. Remember some others. there has been a lot. Do you wish to clame your prise of helping me teach my students about the Tri's?

No takers on helping me teach my students?

Well, the world government in Orson Scott Card's Ender series was a triumvirate of Hegemon, Polemarch and Strategos ;) .

Well, the world government in Orson Scott Card's Ender series was a triumvirate of Hegemon, Polemarch and Strategos ;) .
what grade are you in? That is a required reading in 4/5 grade at our school

Well, the world government in Orson Scott Card's Ender series was a triumvirate of Hegemon, Polemarch and Strategos ;) .
will you not accpet that answer? It is valid even if it doesnt exist. :rolleyes:
It is semi-famous, but there wer three ancient triumvirates. that means you all are missing one.

will you not accpet that answer? It is valid even if it doesnt exist. :rolleyes:
It is semi-famous, but there wer three ancient triumvirates. that means you all are missing one.
ahh of course. why wouldnt I, domind telling us the third if it is worth mentioning.

ahh of course. why wouldnt I, domind telling us the third if it is worth mentioning.
dont sound so frightened, i believe you should know the third, you do tutor history. ;)

triumverent? care to translate that? It can't be the same as the triumvirate (vir=man)

Zinoviev, Kamenev, and Joseph Stalin formed a triumvirate after Lenin's death in 1924.

triumverent? care to translate that? It can't be the same as the triumvirate (vir=man)
actually is the right way. There are different ways to spell almost everything. especially latin. and vir wouldnt apply i this case, dont know how much latin you had but not enough obiviosly. But good geuss. :)

Zinoviev, Kamenev, and Joseph Stalin formed a triumvirate after Lenin's death in 1924.Are you sure that is the right way to spell thier names. But yes there was one there too.

http://www.world-war-1.info/figures/joseph-stalin.php
http://mars.acnet.wnec.edu/~grempel/courses/stalin/lectures/StalinTrot.html
http://www.dickinson.edu/~history/dictators/stalin_dictator1.html
http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/section/Stalin-J_RisetoPower.asp

I believe I've seen Zinoviev's and Kamenev's names spelt differently, but it looks like the masses are going with me here.

And heh... Funnily enough, I wouldn't have mentioned it if I didn't know it had existed... so you didn't need to confirm it for me, but thanks anyway sweetheart.

http://www.world-war-1.info/figures/joseph-stalin.php
http://mars.acnet.wnec.edu/~grempel/courses/stalin/lectures/StalinTrot.html
http://www.dickinson.edu/~history/dictators/stalin_dictator1.html
http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/section/Stalin-J_RisetoPower.asp

I believe I've seen Zinoviev's and Kamenev's names spelt differently, but it looks like the masses are going with me here.

And heh... Funnily enough, I wouldn't have mentioned it if I didn't know it had existed... so you didn't need to confirm it for me, but thanks anyway sweetheart.
wow sarcasism runs rampant. He is a guy ya know. Not very much of a sweet one either

I was wondering if the old soviet truimvirate would be mentioned, of course they did get cut up by Stalin quite quickly after deposing of Trotsky, apparently a table with one leg can stand well enough.

For my own contribution; I've always liked to think of the good old holy trinity as a triumvirate :D

wow sarcasism runs rampant. He is a guy ya know. Not very much of a sweet one either

And? Did something I say make you think I was a guy? ;) It's just I got the impression you were trying to warn me away from him... You know, like 'go away, gay man, my friend will bash your face in with his homophobic baseball bat'.

ALLISA
//is very 'sarcasistic'.

I was wondering if the old soviet truimvirate would be mentioned, of course they did get cut up by Stalin quite quickly after deposing of Trotsky, apparently a table with one leg can stand well enough.

For my own contribution; I've always liked to think of the good old holy trinity as a triumvirate :D
I case you didnt notice neither Buddha boy, Israelities et buddist, or i are probably christian

I case you didnt notice neither Buddha boy, Israelities et buddist, or i are probably christian
...Eh? I don't even want to think about what that was going to suggest... Too many possibilities.

By the way, just take me with a pinch of salt. If I'm coming across as aggressive or anything, I'm sorry. It's really not intended to be that way at all.

...Eh? I don't even want to think about what that was going to suggest... Too many possibilities.

By the way, just take me with a pinch of salt. If I'm coming across as aggressive or anything, I'm sorry. It's really not intended to be that way at all.
no im confused. were you coming onto him?

not at all.

not at all.
dang. he could use someone to soften him up

what grade are you in? That is a required reading in 4/5 grade at our school

I first read the book when I was in Grade 4 (got it through one of those scholastic book club flyers). It was the book that first got me into science fiction, and I've read it at least five times since then, as well as the rest of his series.

BTW, a quick research on the web says that the Third Triumvirate was the same as the second i.e. Octavian, Antony and Lepidus, and was formed shortly after the breakup of the first one, and defeated Brutus and Crassus.

I first read the book when I was in Grade 4 (got it through one of those scholastic book club flyers). It was the book that first got me into science fiction, and I've read it at least five times since then, as well as the rest of his series.

BTW, a quick research on the web says that the Third Triumvirate was the same as the second i.e. Octavian, Antony and Lepidus, and was formed shortly after the breakup of the first one, and defeated Brutus and Crassus.
bravo. After brutus was killed the second broke apart and later reformed making the 2 and 3 the same people

Well, I knew about the Roman ones, but that's because I took Classical Studies at school. You kinda can't avoid learning about Roman History, as much as I prefer the Greeks. Didn't really know about the more modern ones, but that's because I didn't take History ever and am not terribly interested in politics.

I keep wanting to mention the boats...haha. Triremes....damn, before I remembered the word I thought the two words had more in common than just "tri-". Random pointless comment.

I'm from New Zealand btw. We learn quite alot about american history here, the Civil War, the black rights movement etc. As well as about the rest of the world. It's likely to do with us being such a small and young country. Our history wouldn't take a whole year to teach. We're also naturally very interested in the rest of the world.

Heheh..

The Scipii the Brutii and the Junii

actually is the right way. There are different ways to spell almost everything. especially latin. and vir wouldnt apply i this case, dont know how much latin you had but not enough obiviosly. But good geuss. :)

No entry found for triumverent.
Did you mean triumvirate?

Suggestions:
triumvirate
triumphant

While surely not the definitive answer of all things lingual, not even a passing acknowledgement of the word. It is, as the rest of the language, effectively dead.

Do ones that will happen in the future count?

Just there's talk of one to be set up due to Arafat's death?

I'll try and find some links