NationStates Jolt Archive

14th October 2004

To: Kofi Annan
From: The Fallujah Shura Council

"In Fallujah, the Americans have created a new vague target: al-Zarqawi. Almost a year has elapsed since they created this new pretext and whenever they destroy houses, mosques, restaurants, and kill children and women, they said: "We have launched a successful operation against al-Zarqawi." The people of Fallujah assure you that this person, if he exists, is not in Fallujah and we have no links to any groups supporting such inhuman behaviour. We appeal to you to urge the UN to prevent the new massacre which the Americans and the puppet government are planning to start soon in Fallujah."

Ah well. I don't suppose anyone is in the least interested in what the people actually living there have to say, are they? Obviously, they are "insurgents" to a man, aren't they? Even the children. Might as well bomb the bastards.

Ah well. I don't suppose anyone is in the least interested in what the people actually living there have to say, are they? Obviously, they are "insurgents" to a man, aren't they? Even the children. Might as well bomb the bastards.
You said it.

You said it.

With obvious sarcasm.

With obvious sarcasm.Unfortunatly, the UN does not understand this Sarcasm thing... they will allow the US to level Fallujah to the ground with the UN and Fallujah's council's blessing.

Unfortunatly, the UN does not understand this Sarcasm thing... they will allow the US to level Fallujah to the ground with the UN and Fallujah's council's blessing.

Except that the last I heard the UN did not saction the war in Iraq, Bush and Blair took that decision themselves.

Except that the last I heard the UN did not saction the war in Iraq, Bush and Blair took that decision themselves.Ah, but with this letter, it's obvious that the state in fallujah calls for desprate measures... and since the USA and British are already there...

14th October 2004

To: Kofi Annan
From: The Fallujah Shura Council

"In Fallujah, the Americans have created a new vague target: al-Zarqawi. Almost a year has elapsed since they created this new pretext and whenever they destroy houses, mosques, restaurants, and kill children and women, they said: "We have launched a successful operation against al-Zarqawi." The people of Fallujah assure you that this person, if he exists, is not in Fallujah and we have no links to any groups supporting such inhuman behaviour. We appeal to you to urge the UN to prevent the new massacre which the Americans and the puppet government are planning to start soon in Fallujah."

Ah well. I don't suppose anyone is in the least interested in what the people actually living there have to say, are they? Obviously, they are "insurgents" to a man, aren't they? Even the children. Might as well bomb the bastards.

Source, please? :-D

14th October 2004

To: Kofi Annan
From: The Fallujah Shura Council

"In Fallujah, the Americans have created a new vague target: al-Zarqawi. Almost a year has elapsed since they created this new pretext and whenever they destroy houses, mosques, restaurants, and kill children and women, they said: "We have launched a successful operation against al-Zarqawi." The people of Fallujah assure you that this person, if he exists, is not in Fallujah and we have no links to any groups supporting such inhuman behaviour. We appeal to you to urge the UN to prevent the new massacre which the Americans and the puppet government are planning to start soon in Fallujah."

Ah well. I don't suppose anyone is in the least interested in what the people actually living there have to say, are they? Obviously, they are "insurgents" to a man, aren't they? Even the children. Might as well bomb the bastards.

How on earth would 99.99% of the people in future know anything about where al-Zarqawi is hiding, the only people who would know are not the type who're going to tell us. Furthermore the phrase "if he exists" hardly smacks of an intelligent, objective analysis.

I wonder what Ken Bigley and the like would think of al-Zarqawi being some non-existent pretext. The problem is that people like you are always going to object to whatever the U.S does in Iraq regardless, as a result your opinion becomes almost meaningless. Personally I believe that if the U.S does not demonstrate its willingness to resolve the insurgency by defeating the militants in Falljuah the outcome will be that similar pockets will spring up all around the country.

Source, please? :-D

You can read the full article here.


http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_12976.shtml

How on earth would 99.99% of the people in future know anything about where al-Zarqawi is hiding, the only people who would know are not the type who're going to tell us. Furthermore the phrase "if he exists" hardly smacks of an intelligent, objective analysis.

I wonder what Ken Bigley and the like would think of al-Zarqawi being some non-existent pretext. The problem is that people like you are always going to object to whatever the U.S does in Iraq regardless, as a result your opinion becomes almost meaningless. Personally I believe that if the U.S does not demonstrate its willingness to resolve the insurgency by defeating the militants in Falljuah the outcome will be that similar pockets will spring up all around the country.

I fail to see how my opinion or the millions of others who think the same as I (That the war in Iraq was wrong) is almost meaningless.
Am I to assume from what you say that the USA are 100% right and the the rest of the thinking world is wrong over Iraq??
I don't know if al-Zarqawi exists or not, I was merely pointing people in the direction of a letter from the administrators of Fullujah that the media have somehow convieniently overlooked.
And please don't presume to paint me as an uncaring person regarding Ken Bigley and the other hostages murdered by either al-Zarqawi or another group using this name as a screen, I care passionately about the life full stop, mine, yours and every other person in the world, including the Iraq's.

America call them insurgents, I call them Iraq citizens defending themselves against an invading force, exactly the same as you would be if someone invaded your country (and I mine).

Originally Posted by Blobites
14th October 2004

To: Kofi Annan
From: The Fallujah Shura Council

"In Fallujah, the Americans have created a new vague target: al-Zarqawi. Almost a year has elapsed since they created this new pretext and whenever they destroy houses, mosques, restaurants, and kill children and women, they said: "We have launched a successful operation against al-Zarqawi." The people of Fallujah assure you that this person, if he exists, is not in Fallujah and we have no links to any groups supporting such inhuman behaviour. We appeal to you to urge the UN to prevent the new massacre which the Americans and the puppet government are planning to start soon in Fallujah."

Ah well. I don't suppose anyone is in the least interested in what the people actually living there have to say, are they? Obviously, they are "insurgents" to a man, aren't they? Even the children. Might as well bomb the bastards.

Are you French?

I fail to see how my opinion or the millions of others who think the same as I (That the war in Iraq was wrong) is almost meaningless.
Am I to assume from what you say that the USA are 100% right and the the rest of the thinking world is wrong over Iraq??
I don't know if al-Zarqawi exists or not, I was merely pointing people in the direction of a letter from the administrators of Fullujah that the media have somehow convieniently overlooked.
And please don't presume to paint me as an uncaring person regarding Ken Bigley and the other hostages murdered by either al-Zarqawi or another group using this name as a screen, I care passionately about the life full stop, mine, yours and every other person in the world, including the Iraq's.

America call them insurgents, I call them Iraq citizens defending themselves against an invading force, exactly the same as you would be if someone invaded your country (and I mine).


Well the rest of the wold has been wrong so many other times so why should we go along with you now?

Are you French?

Does it matter what nationality I am?

Here's some more light reading for all you pro war peeps.

http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2003-08/10/article10.shtml

The Taliban said Bin Laden was innocent, too. :rolleyes:

And the media has "overlooked" this because a blog is not a good source of information. Especially ones that contain things like

"There are millions of people who voted for John Kerry in the elections who now feel angry, demoralized and impotent. There are millions who did not vote at all. They were either convinced that their vote did not matter or refused to validate a corrupt, corporate-driven electoral process with their vote. They were not "apathetic" as often charged in the corporate media. When combined, the people who voted against George W. Bush and those who refused to vote outnumber those who voted for George Walker Bush by enormous margins. They also have a great deal in common. That common ground can serve as a basis for real change in this country and the 2008 national elections are not the solution.
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The solution lies in organization. Organize, organize, organize - "The People". American government as we've known it is in the midst of complete and total failure. Most Americans are simply not yet aware that this government is in rapid decline. We must fight back now. There is no other choice.

We will not stop. We will not be defeated.
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These are not times for the faint of heart. We are all called upon to man the decks and for the many to defeat the few. They are collapsing under their own weight and under their own foolish choices. That collapse is already well underway but we must not stand by and wait. We must stand up and fight back, giving them no quarter. Are you afraid? Well, of course! Aren’t we all? But we must not be depressed, complacent and succumb to that fear. There has never been a greater opportunity to bring about real, positive change in this country than right now.
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Courage takes place in the fields of fear, never in its absence. "Winning" takes on many forms and the weakest of all victories are military victories. It is true! - "They can kill the body, but not the spirit" - just as they haven't destroyed the spirit of the indomitable Vietnamese, Palestinians, Afghans, Venezuelans or Iraqis. Sacrifice is a stranger to most Americans. Most do not know the meaning of the word - after growing up on the sugars of immediate gratification. Now we are all called upon to sacrifice. What do we have to lose? Our jobs? Our SUVs and cars? Our houses? Our television sets? Our children? Our lives? What does life mean if it is not lived truly, madly and deeply?"

Does it matter what nationality I am?

Here's some more light reading for all you pro war peeps.

http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2003-08/10/article10.shtml


First of all you picked one of the most bias sources on the internet and second they got that information from one marine and other than that there is no other proof that the United States used Napalm.

First of all you picked one of the most bias sources on the internet and second they got that information from one marine and other than that there is no other proof that the United States used Napalm.

Did you even read the article?

The source for the material in this piece came from independant correspondent for the Sydney Morning Herald and the San Diego Union-Tribune amongst others.