NationStates Jolt Archive


How many of you actually believe a draft will occur in the US?

Imperial Puerto Rico
14-11-2004, 08:48
Just curious.

Oh, by the way, Iran has agreed to drop their Nuclear Program. (I have to give a thanks to Chiraq (Yuck...), Schroeder, and Blair)
Tuesday Heights
14-11-2004, 08:57
A draft won't happen. Ever again.
Lunatic Goofballs
14-11-2004, 08:59
A draft is very unlikely. I just installed double-pane windows and had everything recaulked. :)
Andaluciae
14-11-2004, 09:00
A draft would clearly mean the death of the party in power at the time. Not just the "death" of the democrats after the civil war, I mean total death, as in the death of the Federalist party. No more, ever.
Alzhiemerica
14-11-2004, 09:00
A draft is very unlikely. I just installed double-pane windows and had everything recaulked. :)

Hahahahaha :D
Andaluciae
14-11-2004, 09:00
A draft is very unlikely. I just installed double-pane windows and had everything recaulked. :)
I approve! much funny!
Skepticism
14-11-2004, 09:01
A draft would clearly mean the death of the party in power at the time. Not just the "death" of the democrats after the civil war, I mean total death, as in the death of the Federalist party. No more, ever.

Unless it becomes genuinely necessary, as a draft will be if we keep on invading countries in some vague attempt to combat the ideal of terrorism.
Imperial Puerto Rico
14-11-2004, 09:02
Tuesday Heights and the other guy are correct. But according to the poll, two paranoid liberal idiots voted.
Vittos Ordination
14-11-2004, 09:02
Another draft would require another Soviet Unionesque mutual enemy to be even remotely supported.
The Force Majeure
14-11-2004, 09:12
no way...won't happen.
Imperial Puerto Rico
14-11-2004, 09:13
Update:

Make that four (4) idiots that voted in this poll so far...
Ogiek
14-11-2004, 09:18
If the United States had a draft we would not have invaded Iraq. Right now too many people can ignore the war because it has no impact on them. However, if there were a fair draft in place, and the sons and daughters of the wealthy had to put their lives on the line I can guarantee support for this pointless war in Mesopotamia would have been non-existent.
Imperial Puerto Rico
14-11-2004, 09:22
if there were a fair draft in place, and the sons and daughters of the wealthy had to put their lives on the line

You sound like a Red to me...
Lunatic Goofballs
14-11-2004, 09:23
I like you. You're silly. :)
Imperial Puerto Rico
14-11-2004, 09:25
I like you. You're silly. :)

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Lunatic Goofballs
14-11-2004, 09:26
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LOL! It must be mine!
Monkeypimp
14-11-2004, 09:29
I voted for the 3rd option. If there is another country invaded over the next several years, I think a draft will probably be needed if they want to properly pull it off.
Ogiek
14-11-2004, 09:34
You sound like a Red to me...

A Red? You mean someone from a red state? A Republican?
Imperial Puerto Rico
14-11-2004, 09:38
A Red? You mean someone from a red state? A Republican?

A Commie/Socialist...that or another Liberal.
Ogiek
14-11-2004, 09:45
A Commie/Socialist...that or another Liberal.

Hmm, a commie, a socialist, or a liberal. Can't make up your mind? Those are all three very different ideologies.

However, my previous post comes straight out of traditional American beliefs and practices. During World War II men of all social and economic ranks bunked, fought, and died together. President Roosevelt's sons served in the navy. As did the future presidents Kennedy and Bush (the elder), both of whose fathers were millionaires.

The current war is not being fought by the sons and daughters of congressmen or millionaires, nor, given GOP tax giveaways, even paid for by them.

Perhaps you just toss around political labels because you have no actual political arguments?

This topic reminds me of a joke. What is the difference between Vietnam and Iraq?

George W. Bush had a plan to get out of Vietnam.
Sarvikuono
14-11-2004, 10:23
i hope so :)

it's a good way to punish the nation for the re-election of that war criminal..
Weedeater Death
14-11-2004, 11:50
As a NCO in the US Army a draft is bad buisness all around. It severely dimineshes the quality of soldiers on the ground and therefore the efectiveness of the total force (just look to Veitnam) Wile the imediate benifits are an increase in manpower the amount of time that leaders mst use to instill discipline and counsel soldiers takes away from time that would be better spent else where. Point blank a drafted soldier is a liability not an asset if they don't want to be there then they will not have their head in the buisness at hand and that gets people (not just themselves killed).
As to wther or not I believe this will occur or be necesssary NO the current strength of the US Armed forces is at a level that the only way we would need to institute a draft is if there was another global scale war. obviously if we where to become involved in several small scale conflicts then the need would arise. However it is important to remember that the President alone cannot issue a declaration of war he needs the aproval of Congress and while the current President may view a war as necessary More level heads in congress woud prevail (primarily because of our current troop commitment)
Meulmania
14-11-2004, 12:00
I think America would only bring back the draft if America itself was getting attacked or it was planning to attack a superpower.
Ogiek
14-11-2004, 12:02
However it is important to remember that the President alone cannot issue a declaration of war he needs the aproval of Congress and while the current President may view a war as necessary More level heads in congress woud prevail (primarily because of our current troop commitment)

Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 is DEAD and Congress has no balls. The last time Congress declared war was in 1941. Since then the U.S. has gone to war in Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, Afghanistan, and Iraq and that doesn't count the little stuff such as Kosovo, Grenada, Haiti, etc.
Gwazwomp
14-11-2004, 12:13
id say there could be a draft in the future...if the world was in SHIT!

im talking world war 3 here sorta scale fighting... :mp5: :sniper: :gundge: :eek: :mp5: :sniper: bangbangbang bang! nuke! bang! nuke!

ps: im not american
Sarvikuono
14-11-2004, 12:25
However it is important to remember that the President alone cannot issue a declaration of war he needs the aproval of Congress and while the current President may view a war as necessary More level heads in congress woud prevail (primarily because of our current troop commitment)


Yeah, but he can send troops overseas for 90 (or was it even more) days without asking anyone. Don't know about you but I personally don't see the difference in this and declaration of war. I mean the result is exactly the same, a war..