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this forum is designed to ask christian identity their views and opinions and how to promote without censorship and moderators this is the 2nd time you closed this topic what is it that you find objectionable!

-- 1) This FORUM is to discuss matters of a general nature -- ergo its being called the General forum. Your THREAD may be about Christian Identity.

--2) I don't know why it was closed before. However, reposting a topic that has twice been shut is known as a BAD IDEA. Reposting locked threads will result in unpleasant consequences for nations that choose to repeat this action.

--3) I'll be popping in... if I see flaming or other rulebreaking, I will be MOST UNPLEASED.

--Katganistan

does everyone agrre we come from the line of adam

No.

Besides, isn't Judaism matrilineal? So wouldn't we come from the line of Eve?

^--me talking out of my ass.

'Ask a' threads are locked on sight. It's as simple as that.

Period. Case Closed. Zip up you fly.

this forum is designed to ask christian identity their views and opinions and how to promote without censorship and moderators this is the 2nd time you closed this topic what is it that you find objectionable!
English motherfucker, do you speak it?

Seriously though, try make coherent sentences. Also if your topic was closed in the past (that is what you said right?) don't make it again.

this forum is designed to ask christian identity their views and opinions and how to promote without censorship and moderators this is the 2nd time you closed this topic what is it that you find objectionable!The problem is that it's called "ASK A..." if you read the stickies at the top, they frown on "ASK A..." threads and close them outta habit.

this forum is designed to ask christian identity their views and opinions and how to promote without censorship and moderators this is the 2nd time you closed this topic what is it that you find objectionable!

Well ... let's see ... maybe it's because doing a google of "christian identity" yeilds some very nasty, bigotted, white supremecist drivel and, thus, this thread and any like it will clearly degenerate into flame-bait faster than you can say "white people are the only true israelites" or post your silly picture of the Jewsnake.

If I could lock it, I would, but alas, I am a mere mortal.

Can you give me your personal opinion on what should be done concerning gay rights/marriages?

How is it that Jesus could be anglo-saxon when the anglo-saxon race only came into being around the 6th century AD?

How is it that Jesus could be anglo-saxon when the anglo-saxon race only came into being around the 6th century AD?The same way Cleopatra was. It's called Hollywood defining reality.

Come on over to my place:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357296

There's no "Ask A" in the title! ;)

jesus is my homeboy :)

The same way Cleopatra was. It's called Hollywood defining reality.

Heh, but correct me if i'm wrong, Jesus being "anglo-saxon" is the main creed of these guys.

How is it that Jesus could be anglo-saxon when the anglo-saxon race only came into being around the 6th century AD?

Everyone knows he was a Celt of Jewish-Egyptian ancestry. :)

Heh, but correct me if i'm wrong, Jesus being "anglo-saxon" is the main creed of these guys.the best explination for this... comes from... of all places... "Who's the Boss" When the kid(foget his name) comments on a picure of Jesus being the 'Negative' and the priest states "Jesus appears to us in in the form that we are most comfortable with. To you, he appears as will be comfortable to you. to us, he appears in a form comfortable to us. But the form does not matter... it's his teachings and guidence that we should be concerned with for he lives within all of us." [paraphrasing for twas a loong time ago.] Hollywood portrays him as an ango-saxton and unfortunatly, Hollywoods vision tends to be the defining one. :(

Everyone knows he was a Celt of Jewish-Egyptian ancestry. :)

And he escaped the crucifixion then travelled across Asia and died in Japan :p

English motherfucker, do you speak it?

Seriously though, try make coherent sentences. Also if your topic was closed in the past (that is what you said right?) don't make it again.

Hammolopolis, knock it off.

Anyone who does not believe in the Bible or Christianity does not believe we came from Adam and Eve. Therefore, your first question is exclusionary.

To use logic, going from your premise: if one were to believe that they do derive from that line, since Adam and Eve were the FIRST humans, and ALL humans derive from them, then they were the father and mother all humans.

Therefore, all variations are simply those you might find among families -- some are taller than others, some are slimmer than others, some have brown eyes, some have green, some have freckles, some are fairer, some are darker.

which is the real one and which is the fake one twelvearyannations or aryan-nations?

from http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=372486 :

Now a word of explaination:

Austrealite subscribes to a pseudo-intellectual theory that says that most modern Jews are descended from the Khazars, who converted.

Now, the "scholar" who can up with this brillient gem showed his true credentials by declaring the Khazars to be Hamites, and so Austealite goes on in saying that the Jews are not Shemites.

But the Khazars were Turks, who were Tartars, who were Mongols, who were... Shemites. The so-called "scholarship" behind Austrealite's beliefs is thus ludicrously flawed, and nothing sensible should be imagined as coming from them. Austrealite may know the meaning of the word "S(h)emite", but he does not know how to properly apply it, just like logic, and like the word "Israelite". You see, Austrealite thinks that he is an Israelite. Why? Because he is white, that is, a Japhethite (not a Shemite). After all, wouldn't G-d WANT the Whites to be His Chosen People?

Do you like the obvious hypocricy of a Jephethite claiming to be a true Israelite, while denying the Jews that claim because, although they are Shemites, they may have inherited some racial descent from other Shemites? Just watch... it gets better...

I don't have much time, so I'll be quick. First off, the Khazars are not decendants of Shem, Second, I'm not white, and you are racist for using that word as a White person can be one of many different Races...

Let's please leave this thread to its own inherent risks of lockage and take it over here:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=373362

:)

First of all and just as a total side-note, this looks... interesting... for want of a better word. I really don't know what to think of it yet. It has all the lack of footnote support that the worst of the CI people use, but still it looks... interesting:

http://www.angelfire.com/home/thefaery5/origin.html

OK that's just something I found, unrelated to the issue.

First off:

turk

n. [Per. Turk; probably of Tartar origin: cf. F. Turc.] 1. A member of any of numerous Tartar tribes of Central Asia, etc.; esp., one of the dominant race in Turkey.

tartar
n 1: a salt...

. . .

3: a member of the Mongolian people of central Asia who invaded Russia in the 13th century [syn: Tatar, Tartar, Mongol Tatar]

mongolian

n. 1. A native or inhabitant of Mongolia.
2. A member of the Mongol people.
3. Anthropology. A member of the Mongoloid racial division. No longer in scientific use.

mongol

n. 2. A member of any of the traditionally nomadic peoples of Mongolia. See Mongolian.
3. Anthropology. A member of the Mongoloid racial division. No longer in scientific use.

mongoloid

adj. 1. Anthropology. Of or being a major human racial classification traditionally distinguished by physical characteristics such as yellowish-brown skin pigmentation, straight black hair, dark eyes with pronounced epicanthic folds, and prominent cheekbones and including peoples indigenous to central and eastern Asia. Not in scientific use. See Usage Note at race1.

Now in virtually every system of biblical linealogy I have seen, Ham = Africa, Jepheth = Europe, and Shem = Asia + the Americas (Noah's blessing having expanded their tents). If you've got another one, let us see it, and its provenence. BTW the nations of the sons of Noah as described in Genesis don't extend much farther than the Meditarranean and the Middle East.

Second of all, YOU have said, Austrealite, that you are a true Israelite (or whatever spelling affectation you chose to use), and that the true Iraelites are Euro-Americans, Euro-Australians, and Europeans. Thus I have concluded that you are of european stock. Are you saying that I am a racist because I use the term "Whites" tp refer to Europeans and their emmigrees? That's rather an extreme response, don't you think? Why not simply inform me of what racial descriptor you prefer to refer to yourself?

Or are you one of those who regards the use of the traditional racial terms to be a form of racism itself? Or perhaps you are somehow describing yourself as a true Israelite by some other means than by being of european descent?

Perhaps you call yourself a true Israelite by dint of faith in Christ? If so, aren't you saying that G-d's true test is of faith, and not of race? And if that, why do you immediately fall back to racial arguments in your attempts to claim that the Jews of today are unrelated impostors of the Jew's of Y'shua's time?

-- 1) This FORUM is to discuss matters of a general nature -- ergo its being called the General forum. Your THREAD may be about Christian Identity.

--2) I don't know why it was closed before. However, reposting a topic that has twice been shut is known as a BAD IDEA. Reposting locked threads will result in unpleasant consequences for nations that choose to repeat this action.

--3) I'll be popping in... if I see flaming or other rulebreaking, I will be MOST UNPLEASED.

--Katganistan

People, we have recently seen a few complaints of Mods being biased and merciless and capricious. Maybe this is an example (not locking this particular "ask a" thread, that is), but we have an opportunity here to discuss a potentially rather touchy subject, as well as one to show our maturity. Let's do that.

Katganistan, I apologize for the flame bait of mine in my imbedded post, but I felt that it was needed to provide the proper context while attempting to transplant the subthread into a more appropriate thread. Austrealite and I have before proven able to debate this civilly, and I am sure we can again. :) Peace.