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I haven't seen this film, but I have one question though, why the fuss about Bush reading a children's book during 9/11? I mean, it is not like he can do anything while reading for children without his spin doctors and experts...

I haven't seen this film, but I have one question though, why the fuss about Bush reading a children's book during 9/11? I mean, it is not like he can do anything while reading for children without his spin doctors and experts...
because when some one attack your countrey, the first thing you need to do, is say the kids, you have to go, run out, try to get facts on that attack, and ask your experts what to do now?
I mean, stay with the kids, when outside the terrorists attack the countrey, isn't the right way to act for president.

After all, Bush can act Christian and apologize. (Forgivenees is all very Christian) He could do it to the kids. He would love to stay but he has urgent and important business. He thanks them for his time and wishes them well. The security of the Free world needs him.

Sounds good and its true.

But he chose instead to read to the kids. It was a bad decision. Maybe he is sorry but shouldn't just come out and admit that mistake?

Who wants a stubborn husband? Sure it makes good TV when Raymond messes up on Everybody loves Raymond but he at least eventually admits his mistakes. Maybe admitting mistakes is why he is loved by everyone lol.

After all, Bush can act Christian and apologize. (Forgivenees is all very Christian) He could do it to the kids. He would love to stay but he has urgent and important business. He thanks them for his time and wishes them well. The security of the Free world needs him.

Sounds good and its true.

But he chose instead to read to the kids. It was a bad decision. Maybe he is sorry but shouldn't just come out and admit that mistake?

Who wants a stubborn husband? Sure it makes good TV when Raymond messes up on Everybody loves Raymond but he at least eventually admits his mistakes. Maybe admitting mistakes is why he is loved by everyone lol.
That is probably most biased thing I have ever heard...Bush...Christan dont go together in one sentence unless added by not

That is probably most biased thing I have ever heard...Bush...Christan dont go together in one sentence unless added by not
Wow, I've been called bias the opposite way. *bows* I'm going to be actor so thanks.

I haven't seen this film, but I have one question though, why the fuss about Bush reading a children's book during 9/11? I mean, it is not like he can do anything while reading for children without his spin doctors and experts...

I don't understand it either. What would you have our president do? Break down and panic? Throw the book and dart out of the school? Anyway, I'd have to say he did one hell of a job dealing with the 9/11 crisis. He was out there in the streets, consoling the family of victims and giving moral support to all those involved. I find it ridiculous that liberals and left-wing trash focus on such miniscule things such as this.

because when some one attack your countrey, the first thing you need to do, is say the kids, you have to go, run out, try to get facts on that attack, and ask your experts what to do now?
I mean, stay with the kids, when outside the terrorists attack the countrey, isn't the right way to act for president.
Yeah, I just love Monday night quarterbacking on stuff like this.

It's not that big of a deal. He sat there and finished a book. He was doing this to help ease the children's psyches. He didn't sit there because he found the book enthralling. Can you seriously come up with a real bad reason why he sat there, besides Moore's stupid speculation? Hell, that film was a bunch of half truths and lies, so I don't really see why anyone would believe his speculation and reasoning, the most "damning" parts of the movie are after all, when Moore is rambling on and making connections that don't necessarily exist, he just sees them in his own mind. His speculations are not the word of
God or anything. Hell, his speculations are just his opinions, and they're not any more worthy of a documentary than mine.

Hell, I wouldn't even consider his films documentary. Documentaries are neutral, they don't favor one group or another, they inform, not decide. And Moore's "documentaries" definitely decide. I'd have to say they are more along the lines of Propagandistic films than documentaries.


oh yeah, and about that scene...

Here's the thing to remember, Card walked up to Bush, and he whispered in Bush's ear EVERYTHING that was known at the time. Literally. He told Bush that that was everything. He could have rushed off but he wouldn't have learned anything new for at least ten minutes, and he'd have undoubtably caused emotional damage to the kids by doing that, so...

I don't understand it either. What would you have our president do? Break down and panic? Throw the book and dart out of the school? Anyway, I'd have to say he did one hell of a job dealing with the 9/11 crisis. He was out there in the streets, consoling the family of victims and giving moral support to all those involved. I find it ridiculous that liberals and left-wing trash focus on such miniscule things such as this.

Well in all fairness, Bush went to the scene and promised to help repair the damage and make America safer. And then in all fairness he never delievered on his promise (we're still waiting for the funding promised to us for our fire dept., police, hospitals, etc.)

Well, he must be doing something right. He's still our president, after all.

Well in all fairness, Bush went to the scene and promised to help repair the damage and make America safer. And then in all fairness he never delievered on his promise (we're still waiting for the funding promised to us for our fire dept., police, hospitals, etc.)
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Fahrenheit 9/11 was his one sided view of things. However people are regarding it as the truth.

I thought he handled 9/11 calmly as well. And got up slowly and walked off. Because when the countries in attack, he wouldn't EXACTLY know that it's a plane that crashed into the WTC's.

Sunshine States have put it best...

" I find it ridiculous that liberals and left-wing trash focus on such miniscule things such as this."

To be fair to the guy at the time no one had any idea of the scale of the attacks at that stage.

That movie is full of lies, and if you left-wing want to whine about him finishing a book to help calm children, you should know four or so major liberals sat around for forty minutes without doing anything.

It isnt a big deal. How many hours did JFK lock himself in the Oval office during the Cuban Missile Crisis? Presidents have to remain calm. When the Pentagon gets hit and two towers destroyed. It is a pretty big deal and you cannot just point the finger on someone with in a couple minutes of it happening. If the nation is under attack and you have the president in a secured location....why would you move him?

Okay, I'm not a leftist, or even leftist limp wristed liberal trash... but...

He would have emotionally damaged the kids by running off to act as President at a time of national emergency? Oh, well, better a national emergency than some kids crying. I mean who can afford to waste precious minutes attempting to do your job when there's a beautiful press opportunity?

And no one, left or right, seemed to criticize his actions at the time. Nope, 9/11 gave him the shield of a smooth veneer of doubt. For a long time there, you couldn't criticize JACK SHIT about the nation or government without being called a muslim terrorist. 9/11 became our holy day and no heathens were allowed to touch it. OMGZ U TERRORIST LETS N00K IRAQ.

Well, so it turned out to his political benefit. The press were there, and of course he knew that too, and reading to children was a press opportunity in the first place - 9/11 was icing on the media fuckfest cake. Wow, look how calm he is - and he obviously cares about children, you can hardly blame him for... inactivity at a time of national crisis... err moral values!

Anyway, Fahrenheit 9/11 was a dumb movie. Anyone who's read Machiavelli can figure out whats going on. People shouting bumper sticker slogans are lost here.

Well, he must be doing something right. He's still our president, after all.

What do you mean, "he"? You mean his spin doctors, propaganda writers, and Cabinet, right?

He just sits around on his duff and lets all of this happen.

I don't understand it either. What would you have our president do? Break down and panic?

Someone must be blind. I could have sworn I read a viable course of action just a couple of posts above yours. :rolleyes:

After all, Bush can act Christian and apologize. (Forgivenees is all very Christian) He could do it to the kids. He would love to stay but he has urgent and important business. He thanks them for his time and wishes them well. The security of the Free world needs him.

Sounds good and its true.

But he chose instead to read to the kids. It was a bad decision. Maybe he is sorry but shouldn't just come out and admit that mistake?

Who wants a stubborn husband? Sure it makes good TV when Raymond messes up on Everybody loves Raymond but he at least eventually admits his mistakes. Maybe admitting mistakes is why he is loved by everyone lol.
There was nothing he could have done. Nothing at all. Until his secret service agents had made sure they had all the information they wouldn't have allowed him to go anywhere anyway. This is quite possibly the stupidest non-issue in the movie and given Kerry and Osama's references to it, of the campaign.

Come on we all know that if Gore had been president, he would have ran out of the class room, gone to the nearest military base, suited up with guns and plenty of ammo, and headed over to Afghanistan. He would have personally hunted down and killed those responsible, all in the time it took Bush to read that book. Hell, Kerry would have joined him with his trusty double barrel shotgun and his wind surfing board.