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After seeing probably the 100th "If America Fought _____, Who Would Win?" thead (yes, the Canadian one) I thought "How would America fare if it got jumped?" How does this sound, and someone give in any thoughts on the reality of this.

After the war on terror came to a close with the Bush Administration, North Korea, China, and select other Middle Eastern Nations (Iran mainly) thought "America is going down" so they fake a large amount of attacks and make it look like America is too big for its own good. In a domino effect, Germany, Russia, France, Brazil, and the UK (Inlcuding Australia and Canada) all see the anti-american views and know that America is too large.

So, North Korea and China (With Russian weapons mainly) and Iran take action agenst the Americans. Soon, a few other nations help in the defencive war effort.

How does this sound, and how would America fair in this?

An other thoguht, how about if it was just a China (Allied With) North Korea Vs. America War?

Any thoughts on this?

After seeing probably the 100th "If a black guy Fought _____, Who Would Win?" thead (yes, the Canadian one) I thought "How would a black guy fare if it got jumped?" How does this sound, and someone give in any thoughts on the reality of this.

After the war on terror came to a close with the rednecks, Koreans, Chinese, and select other Arabs thought "That black guy is going down" so they fake a large amount of attacks and make it look like America is too big for its own good. In a domino effect, the Germans, Russians, French, Brazilians, and the and the English (even the Aussies and Canadians) all see the anti-american views and know that America is too large.

So, the Koreans and Chinese (With Russian weapons mainly) and an Arab take action agenst the the black guy. Soon, a few other nations help in the defencive war effort.

How does this sound, and how would the black guy fair in this?

Any thoughts on this?



Think about it. A black guy being jumped by a bunch of asians....who the **** do you think will win?


This only will be understandable if you understand the culture of California. Play GTA: San Andreas if you don't.

What would happen if we got jumped? 2 things

1) Los Angeles class submarines

2) Minuteman II Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles

I think Evil Kineval could jump America

In all Seriousness, if America was ever invaded by multiple nations and if America was actually losing, don't be suprised to see just about ever nuke in the US' Arsenal being launched.

As an American, if said scenerio happened, I would support the destruction of the world.

Well, it'd be like the one and only time I got jumped.

Ending in a thrashing that the Jumper wasn't expecting. Why you would attack a 230 pound wrestler and think you could get away with your face intact is beyond me. The same situation for America.

how can you say that?
you would rather see the wholen world dead, than just yourself?
thats sick

to blazes with them all nuke em to the stone age and let the strong survive

how can you say that?
you would rather see the wholen world dead, than just yourself?
thats sick

You damn right.

Besides, be honest with yourself here.

You're telling me if America was invaded by multiple nations and was losing you wouldn't expect a few thousand nukes being launched by America? You're f'ing nuts if you think America will not.

I for one will be celebrating it if it did happen.

You damn right.

Besides, be honest with yourself here.

You're telling me if America was invaded by multiple nations and was losing you wouldn't expect a few thousand nukes being launched by America? You're f'ing nuts if you think America will not.

I for one will be celebrating it if it did happen.
I wouldn't be surprised, but I can't say I'd really enjoy the subsequent nuclear winter more than being ruled by the Chinese/Iranian/North Korean/French/Whoeverian government.

After seeing probably the 100th "If America Fought _____, Who Would Win?" thead (yes, the Canadian one) I thought "How would America fare if it got jumped?" How does this sound, and someone give in any thoughts on the reality of this.

After the war on terror came to a close with the Bush Administration, North Korea, China, and select other Middle Eastern Nations (Iran mainly) thought "America is going down" so they fake a large amount of attacks and make it look like America is too big for its own good. In a domino effect, Germany, Russia, France, Brazil, and the UK (Inlcuding Australia and Canada) all see the anti-american views and know that America is too large.

So, North Korea and China (With Russian weapons mainly) and Iran take action agenst the Americans. Soon, a few other nations help in the defencive war effort.

How does this sound, and how would America fair in this?

An other thoguht, how about if it was just a China (Allied With) North Korea Vs. America War?

Any thoughts on this?

the American government has pondered this question before and come up with a pretty impressive deturnet - nuclear submarines

Children please! Put your penises away and stop bragging about how much damage you can do to the world wtih them. Greatness is not measured by how big your gun is; its measured by how well you can use it. Big guns HELP you do great things, but they aren't great things in themselves.

So please, stop masturbating your egos to the tune of the apocolypse.

Children please! Put your penises away and stop bragging about how much damage you can do to the world wtih them. Greatness is not measured by how big your gun is; its measured by how well you can use it. Big guns HELP you do great things, but they aren't great things in themselves.

So please, stop masturbating your egos to the tune of the apocolypse.

Oh shut up and go preen in the mirror. This is probably the most intelligent nation vs. nation thread (which is kind of like saying a dirty blonde is smarter than a platinum blonde) and you have to kill it.

The question was asked 'What would America do?' Well, if the whole world attacked us, we'd obviously lose and I wouldn't get to see the World Series or the Superbowl anymore... so hell yeah, I'd buy some winter clothes and say nuke the hell out of everyone. Football in snow is great and we have domes for baseball.

If nukes got involved big time?

Everyone dies.
The end.

If nukes got involved big time?

Everyone dies.
The end.

indeed but i think a lot of people on this site would not mind this happening, as long as America is the one ending things
everyone is crazy

umm, firstly i doubt America could get jumped. an if invaded, the other nations would need to beat America's navy, if not, they lose. they need to navy to supply troops and bring more in. An then enlistment would go throught the roof. The US can't be jumped, because of it's massize navy.

indeed but i think a lot of people on this site would not mind this happening, as long as America is the one ending things
everyone is crazy


And this is how the America haters subtely turn any discussion on here to a hate the US argument. Trust me, the last thing I want is to... well, wake up next to Rosie O'Donell, but aside from that, the second to last thing I want is a nuclear war.

BUT...

The freaking thread is called What if America got Jumped?

Now maybe you read that differently than me, but I see it as me and my boys are watching TV, sitting in the den eating a friggin bowl of Cheerios and suddenly Ho Chi Korean comes busting down my door with an AK yelling "Ya No Wa! Mo Ki We! Ay Ei Ie Oh Yu!". Naturally we whoop his ass, only to find the Germans and French and Japanese waiting outside with grenades going "Seig oui oui sayonara!". At this point our odds of living the way we want to are kind of slim as we can't beat everyone IN THE WORLD, so hell yeah... nuke those farthest away first. If the rest don't quit it, throw a few shorter passes, Boom boom, fallout, done.

So yes... people here are saying we would finish a conflict of this scope in the only way left to us, because surrender is not an option. The important thing to remember about this scenario is that we were eating friggin' Cheerios and all the rest of yous kicked down OUR door... so quit whining.

I could see America coming under attack from North Korea, as I suspect they do have the missile range to hit the west coast, or at least Hawaii.

I couldn't, however, see France or Germany launching an invasion. Nor Iran for that matter.

1 - France. Oh come on, it's the damned French! And anyway, France AND Germany would attempt to pull some other EU nations in it (I know there's a EU -v- USA thread, so I won't go into it.)
2 - Germany. While I do suspect Germany has the manpower to fend off a small part of the US Military, they couldn't for a long time. And, Britain still has army bases in Germany, and I expect America does too. Too great a risk.
3 - North Korea. Only if provoked...if you guys start putting heftier sanctions on them, or launch an invasion, then they probably would attack the USA, or Japan, because they know they'll be beat before it's even started, and Kim Jong Il wants to go out in a blaze of glory. What better way for a Commie to go out in a blaze of glory than to Nuclear ICBM the USA?
4 - Iran. Once again, they'll only hit if you attack them. And what could they hit? India? Israel? American bases around the area? There is no way a Iranian nuke or whatever could hit much furthur than the eastern mediterranean.

But...if America got attacked by a big group of countries, including the UK (not gonna happen), I would expect it would be the bloodiest war in history. Which is blatently obvious, but I would also expect the USA would win.

After seeing probably the 100th "If America Fought _____, Who Would Win?" thead (yes, the Canadian one) I thought "How would America fare if it got jumped?" How does this sound, and someone give in any thoughts on the reality of this.

After the war on terror came to a close with the Bush Administration, North Korea, China, and select other Middle Eastern Nations (Iran mainly) thought "America is going down" so they fake a large amount of attacks and make it look like America is too big for its own good. In a domino effect, Germany, Russia, France, Brazil, and the UK (Inlcuding Australia and Canada) all see the anti-american views and know that America is too large.

So, North Korea and China (With Russian weapons mainly) and Iran take action agenst the Americans. Soon, a few other nations help in the defencive war effort.

How does this sound, and how would America fair in this?

An other thoguht, how about if it was just a China (Allied With) North Korea Vs. America War?

Any thoughts on this?

December 7, 1941 A date which will live in Infamy! The United States of America was suddenly and Brutally attacked by naval and Air Forces from the empire of Japan!

Remember that speech? Its from FDR on December 8, 1941, a day after Pearl Harbor were Japan did Jump us! We fought back tooth and nail and wound up defeating Japan.

September 11, 2001 we got jumped again and once again, our forces are fighting a very brutal enemy that doesn't believe in surrendering or facing us head on but to hide in Civilian areas and engage us but forgetting that under the Geneva Convention, wherever they shoot at us from, is a legal Military Target.

What would happen if we got jumped? 2 things

1) Los Angeles class submarines

2) Minuteman II Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles

Minuteman III ICBM and Ohio class Ballistic submarines

The important thing to remember about this scenario is that we were eating friggin' Cheerios and all the rest of yous kicked down OUR door... so quit whining.

HA! Nicely put! :cool:


"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." -Japanese Admiral Yamamoto, 1941

While it's not so true anymore, the number of armed citizens in this country is unlike anything any of those rivals mentioned have seen before. In reality, if a country was to try and invade us, the only hope for success would be nuclear launch against us first. There wouldn't be much left to conquer after that, and the conquerors wouldn't have homes to go to (we would launch right back).

For the forseeable future, the only way for the United States of America to die is if we kill it ourselves.

If America Got Jumped...

They'd simply unleash Cheney and he'd devour all the enemies' souls. He's good at that.


"Jacques Chirac! Your soul is MINE!"
*WHOOOSH!*
"Flawless Victory!"

After seeing probably the 100th "If America Fought _____, Who Would Win?" thead (yes, the Canadian one) I thought "How would America fare if it got jumped?" How does this sound, and someone give in any thoughts on the reality of this.

After the war on terror came to a close with the Bush Administration, North Korea, China, and select other Middle Eastern Nations (Iran mainly) thought "America is going down" so they fake a large amount of attacks and make it look like America is too big for its own good. In a domino effect, Germany, Russia, France, Brazil, and the UK (Inlcuding Australia and Canada) all see the anti-american views and know that America is too large.

So, North Korea and China (With Russian weapons mainly) and Iran take action agenst the Americans. Soon, a few other nations help in the defencive war effort.

How does this sound, and how would America fair in this?

An other thoguht, how about if it was just a China (Allied With) North Korea Vs. America War?

Any thoughts on this?
the only fact that sure in that story is Israel stand with USA and maybe the countries against USA attacked her first, on the first fight at the war. somehow I think that israel ,in response, (if you believe to va'anunu story) lunch nuke missles in amount that could destroy whole the world some times.
and then after Israel will destroyed too, from all the damage she will had, USA will stay the only countrey at the world, and nobody will be against her anymore.

or not, but that will ruined the whole story.

For an intelligent answer to this question,the question should have started with-"IF NOBODY had nukes..."
The US would lauch every nuke at everyone everywhere simultaneously,if they thought they'd lose.
The only chance for the loss of the states would have to be a popular uprising by the People of the U.S against the government,while simultaneously being attacked,and a coordinated strike by Chinese surgical EMP blasts at every silo they know,and don't know about.And I say chinese cause I read something like that about 5 years ago,not because I hate the Chinese.

And that is a good point, which leads to the fact that America is not the only one with Nukes...

USA
UK
Russia
France
India
Pakistan
France
Israel
North Korea (Nearly)
South Korea (Not far off from what the UN have said)
Iran (Probably Not far off)
Brazil (Not far off)


Out of those 11 countries then, the scenario that has been put forth is that, France, Germany, North Korea and China and Iran gang up on America.

As already stated Germany has UK and US bases on it's turf, but the US (correct me if wrong) have been slowly reducing the presence there, not sure about the UK.

France do have Nukes, if they struck first, they could have a chance of 'jumping' America, although I would say that France would have to pray that the US do not see it coming, which is probably unlikely.....but still. France would probably prefer allies.

Motive?


China have Nukes, but they are in a good situation at the moment, can not really be called Communist. Only if the US pissed them off, might they do something. Which leads us to North Korea.

North Korea, like Japan in the late 30's, are having economic sanctions placed on them by the US. Japan carried out Pearl Harbor in the hope the US would be crippled. Although it is indeed dangerous to try and mirror past events with the present, if North Korea were pushed, they may strike first.

Let's say the US invade North Korea, or declare war. Well North Korea has suspected Nukes, but where have we heard that before?

Back to the subject, North Korea has a pact with China, where if North Korea is attacked, China is bound to defend North Korea.

A few factors to consider: China may not be so interested in that pact now, BUT would they get a little annoyed at US Troops on their doorstep in N Korea?

Personally, I can't see US invading North Korea, suprisingly, I can see China doing it.

Why?

North Korea are worrying China, China having a nuclear neighbour is not really good for China, and I can see tensions arising between the two, as they may jostle for supreme asian power. I believe China would win, economically....Militarily.....a long war, if nukes are not used.


Iran probably do not have the technology to hit the US yet, although suggestions arise that Iran shares it's technology with North Korea. Israel will probably try to destroy Iran's nuclear plants, and well, that could get nasty.

The US may try to invade Iran, although the UK has said it would not support it. If this happens, I think this could seriously expose the US, as I can't see anyone supporting an attack on Iran aside from Israel.

Iran pre emptive strike? Unlikely. But who knows.

This is all specualation, and in reality, I can't see France or Germany attacking the US, and vice versa. But who knows what the future shall bring.

December 7, 1941 A date which will live in Infamy! The United States of America was suddenly and Brutally attacked by naval and Air Forces from the empire of Japan!

Remember that speech? Its from FDR on December 8, 1941, a day after Pearl Harbor were Japan did Jump us! We fought back tooth and nail and wound up defeating Japan.

September 11, 2001 we got jumped again and once again, our forces are fighting a very brutal enemy that doesn't believe in surrendering or facing us head on but to hide in Civilian areas and engage us but forgetting that under the Geneva Convention, wherever they shoot at us from, is a legal Military Target.

A good point. Whenever America has been attacked, it has fought back and fought back viciously. I think this is why no "normal" country would try to attack the USA. The Soviets didn't and neither will the Chinese and certainly not the EU. We have both a nuclear deterrent and a proven willingness to use any means necessary to defend ourselves.

The quote by Yamamoto is good one. Another one to keep in mind is from a US general during the height of the Cold War when he was asked how a nuclear war could be won. His answer was something like this, "If the whole world gets blown up and there's only one Soviet soldier and two Americans left and the two Americans gang up and beat the Soviet to death, then we've won the nuclear war."

If anyone seriously tries to "jump" the US, they have to realize that, even if they succeed in destroying us, we'll be sure to take them with us.

The US may try to invade Iran, although the UK has said it would not support it. If this happens, I think this could seriously expose the US, as I can't see anyone supporting an attack on Iran aside from Israel.
you kidding right? except of oil minerals, amd ancient fight with bush's family usa had all the reasons they use on iraq, to attack iran:
Iran has uncovential weaponary.
Iran is in their way to neuclar weaponary.
Iran support terror (with unclear contect to Al-qaida)
Iran endangre their neighbours.
and Iran is radical Islamic dictatorship.
what more reasons do you need?