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Should handwashing after going to the bathroom be mandatory?

La Terra di Liberta
12-11-2004, 19:09
I know this sounds like a stupid question and in reality, it is but do you think it should be? Personally, I am a fanatic about and can't stand that many males don't wash their hands after using the toilet and then go eat. I mean, I know it sounds creepy, but that makes me almost want to vomit. I know, I know I'm paranoid about germs and so you don't need to ask my view on it. Many illnesses spread this way and when people have a cold in my house, it is simply a rule to wash your hands often to minimize the chance of it spreading. Anyways, what do you think? No flaming please and try to stick to no name calling either.
Gnostikos
12-11-2004, 19:15
Orcæ ita! (Hells yeah!)

I'm not paranoid or anything regarding microörganisms, but it is very foolish to not do so. God knows what you'll ingest, and I don't want to shake hands or touch the same door knob as someone who doesn't wash their hands (not necessarily only after going to the W.C.). I know it doesn't help much, but it is a small gesture against communicable diseases, and potentially parasites.
Futurepeace
12-11-2004, 19:17
YES! There are good reasons most places of employment require their employees to wash their hands. I work for the healthcare system, so I am used to always having clean hands, even outside of work. It is a good habit. And yes, it does help keep the spreading of germs down.
Dobbs Town
12-11-2004, 19:18
Yes, it's a no-brainer.

Next?
La Terra di Liberta
12-11-2004, 19:27
My personal favourite sign was at a Subway in Alberta, which said "All employees must wash their hands after using the toilet". Some had scrated out the last few words and wrote "All employees must was their hands after taking a sh*t". Irelevant yes but I'm one post away from a 1000 now.
General Mike
12-11-2004, 19:33
How exactly would you enforce mandatory handwashing? Armed policemen?
Tallaris
12-11-2004, 19:34
I know this sounds like a stupid question and in reality, it is but do you think it should be? Personally, I am a fanatic about and can't stand that many males don't wash their hands after using the toilet and then go eat. I mean, I know it sounds creepy, but that makes me almost want to vomit. I know, I know I'm paranoid about germs and so you don't need to ask my view on it. Many illnesses spread this way and when people have a cold in my house, it is simply a rule to wash your hands often to minimize the chance of it spreading. Anyways, what do you think?
Hey if they want to get sick and die, that's their right, whether it is disgusting or not, just as long as they don't touch me in the process. ;)
La Terra di Liberta
12-11-2004, 19:39
How exactly would you enforce mandatory handwashing? Armed policemen?



Well, they actually tried something at the Salt Lake City Airport a few years ago. A man would stand at the door with a clipboard and mark down the number of people that came into the bathroom and who did and who didn't wash their hands. Now, that's intimidation but I guess it's a start. Yet again though, it brings into question personal privacy and where to draw the line with it.
Nimzonia
12-11-2004, 19:41
I couldn't care less, but there wasn't any poll for that. :p
Tallaris
12-11-2004, 19:42
How exactly would you enforce mandatory handwashing? Armed policemen?
Got a problem with that? I mean it isnt like they'll be watching you take a piss; they'll just watch you wash up afterwards. ;)
Life and Chaos
12-11-2004, 19:45
i think everyone should wash their hands before they use the toilet because your hands have touched some pretty nasty stuff during the day and then your going to go and touch one the most speacial places on your body that has been hiding in your shorts away from everything just chilling waiting all clean like then you touch it with your dirty hands its sick you should wash it off after you use the toilet or wash your hands first
Nutter Butter Bay
12-11-2004, 19:47
i think everyone should wash their hands before they use the toilet because your hands have touched some pretty nasty stuff during the day and then your going to go and touch one the most speacial places on your body that has been hiding in your shorts away from everything just chilling waiting all clean like then you touch it with your dirty hands its sick you should wash it off after you use the toilet or wash your hands first
I am so with you on that.
Ninjamangopuff
12-11-2004, 19:48
I think you should always wash your hands after going to the bathroom, but I don't think it should be made into a law. Plenty of unhealthy things are permitted under the law, for example:

Smoking is legal, even though it significantly increases your risk of death, and provides absolutely no benefit to society.
Driving is dangerous, but it is allowed.
Eating fattening and unhealthy food is legal, even though it is unhealthy.
Having unprotected sex with multiple partners is unhealthy, but it's legal too.

If you force people to wash their hands when they leave the bathroom, you should force all these other issues too. This would start to infringe on freedoms too much though, which I think is why it isn't done.
Tallaris
12-11-2004, 19:56
I am so with you on that.
Me too. I mean I am a chemistry major, so I play around with some pretty nasty chemicals in the lab. Last thing I want to do get acid on my hands and........well anyway I think you get the point. :D

Washing before is just as important as washing after, especially right after you've been playing with strong acids, bases, and other activities, like picking peppers.
GreatBritain
12-11-2004, 20:30
You have to remember that everything inside your body is sterilised naturally, you're more likely to get harmful germs just by waving your hand in the air, that going to the toilet.
Earlier someone mentioned that most colds etc are spread by not washing your hands, which just isnt true, as colds are viral infections which can't be killed by soaps and antibacterials (i.e washing your hands), and are mainly transmitted via the air.

If someone wants to, or dosent want to wash their hands before they eat, thats their decision is it not? Unless you have a habit of eating out of someone elses hand?
Another thing to remember... someone wants to wash their bacteria-ridden hands... they touch the tap to turn it on.. touch the soap (this will kill most of the bacteria but not all),remove the soap under the running water, touch the tap again.. reinfecting your hands, and then go on to infect more things...

I quite like the advert for this on UK tv which shows that your dog's bed is cleaner than your babys highchair, your rubbishbin is cleaner than your kitchen worksurfaces, that your floor is cleaner than your tables.

Think of this nexttime you reach for the tap, a door handle or the next time you sit down to eat dinner. Bacteria is everywhere, inside of us, outside of us, in the earth, water and air... it is part of life as we know it.
Basically.. get used to it.. or theres always those nice plastic bubbles you could live in?
Zincite
12-11-2004, 20:36
A third of your intestinal weight is made of bacteria.

Also, 1 out of 10 people you shake hands with have masturbated recently and not washed their hands since.
Parratoga
12-11-2004, 20:43
Yes. I can't stand people who don't wash there hands. I've love to see there be a law against NOT washing your hands, so many people spread germs and viruses by simply not washing their hands. I always carry around some instant hand stanitizer just in case.


P.S. I also think there should be a law about covering your mouth when you cough. So many disgusting people just curl their tongue and cough out into the air.
Parratoga
12-11-2004, 20:44
Also, 1 out of 10 people you shake hands with have masturbated recently and not washed their hands since.


That's why I don't shake people's hands. ;)
Presidency
12-11-2004, 20:48
The Empire of Presidency has no official position on the issue at this time.
Korarchaeota
12-11-2004, 20:53
good god, yes, it should be mandatory.

your body is getting rid of that stuff for a reason. why risk ingesting it again?
GreatBritain
12-11-2004, 20:59
I agree with you on covering your mouth... even if its more effective at preventing the poor person standing opposite you from being covered with spittle than preventing spreading any nasties.
Technically, you dont need to shake their hand, bacteria (when in the optimum conditions) can grow so quickly that the same bacteria could be anywhere on the person, not just their hands, so even a slight brush against someone would spread the bacteria.

It's likely that everything you touch, see and even breath.. is covered with bacteria,even soap!

ohh..and actually.. because more and more people are using soaps and antibacterials... the bacteria is evolving to be immune to it...
(for the record, bacteria evolving ISNT a good thing for us)
i.e probably none of our medicines which we use now, will be as effective in 20years.
So keep that in mind the next time you wipe out an entire culture with just a soapy cloth!
Dementate
12-11-2004, 21:05
P.S. I also think there should be a law about covering your mouth when you cough. So many disgusting people just curl their tongue and cough out into the air.

Then you'll have to wash your hands every time you cough too.
Dementate
12-11-2004, 21:08
Me too. I mean I am a chemistry major, so I play around with some pretty nasty chemicals in the lab. Last thing I want to do get acid on my hands and........well anyway I think you get the point. :D

Washing before is just as important as washing after, especially right after you've been playing with strong acids, bases, and other activities, like picking peppers.

Sounds like my job...but you usually tend to know right away when you get a strong acid/base on your skin. The intense burning tends to give it away.
Tallaris
12-11-2004, 21:23
That's why I don't shake people's hands. ;)
And that's why I will not be shaking hands anymore. Now excuse me while I throw up. :D
Tallaris
12-11-2004, 21:33
Sounds like my job...but you usually tend to know right away when you get a strong acid/base on your skin. The intense burning tends to give it away.
I was joking partially. Usually you know but not always. I once knew someone who burned a good portion of their arm with nitric acid (I don't remember the concentration, but it definitely wasn't all that dilute) and didn't know about until they noticed they're skin was yellowing. You also have your carcinogens too. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not get those on my "special places", as someone else put it on this thread. Like acids and bases you try to allow contact period, but shit happens.
Esformes
12-11-2004, 21:40
I don't think it should be required. I don't even think it should be allowed. You can't plan a revolution if you get an infection from an unsanitary bathroom and die. Why not just get right to the point? Remove all bathrooms, period. You can't make plans to subvert the government if you have wet pants.:upyours:
Green israel
12-11-2004, 22:04
yes, and if someone don't wash is hand, he need to put in jail and that some one will cut is hands. in if he still refused to wash his hands you need to harm him and his family until he will take his nasty hands and wash them.
or, in another way, just take his picture and put on the wall poster that say: "beaware, don't shake hands with this man".
Lunatic Goofballs
12-11-2004, 22:07
"If you have to wash your hands after touching your dick, why don't you just go ahead and scrub your dick?" -George Carlin.
La Terra di Liberta
12-11-2004, 22:39
A third of your intestinal weight is made of bacteria.

Also, 1 out of 10 people you shake hands with have masturbated recently and not washed their hands since.



That's a cumforting thought. (I hope someone notices the pun)
Quagmir
12-11-2004, 22:58
It should be illegal to urinate or defecate on ones hands, that should be illegal! It is really gross when people do that and dont bother to wash their hands! :mad:
Dementate
12-11-2004, 23:08
I was joking partially. Usually you know but not always. I once knew someone who burned a good portion of their arm with nitric acid (I don't remember the concentration, but it definitely wasn't all that dilute) and didn't know about until they noticed they're skin was yellowing. You also have your carcinogens too. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not get those on my "special places", as someone else put it on this thread. Like acids and bases you try to allow contact period, but shit happens.

That's true about nitric. I typically work with it concentrated. You don't tend to feel anything right away, especially on the hands. Now if it splashed up and gets someplace like on your forehead, then you notice pretty quick.

Also have to work with concentrated HCl and H2SO4 (the bane of my clothes) on a regular basis. But lately I work more with NaOH since I do cyanide analysis. Hmm..wonder how many people would shake my hand if I brought that up...
La Terra di Liberta
12-11-2004, 23:13
It should be illegal to urinate or defecate on ones hands, that should be illegal! It is really gross when people do that and dont bother to wash their hands! :mad:




If someone urinates on their hands and doesn't wash them, that makes me want to vomit. Most definatly illegal for a thousand reasons and yes, there was an example of a hotel in England where they had no sinks in the bathroom for the staff or cooks and had a huge wedding party to serve, The food tasted good enough at the time but a few days later or so later, many of the guest began to get sick and then it was discovered there were no sinks. What the wedding party did after that I'm not sure.
Quagmir
12-11-2004, 23:24
Worse things have happened, though. Do you know how the black death epidemic, and Aids, and communism started? Same reason. Really.
Compuq
12-11-2004, 23:35
There are two reasons for washing my hands after using the bathroom

1st is respect for other people who i have to be around

2nd Is heath/sanitation reasons, But this really only applies to sh*tting, since urine is sterile. But i wash my hands for both because of reason #1.
Darsylonian Theocrats
12-11-2004, 23:57
But lately I work more with NaOH since I do cyanide analysis. Hmm..wonder how many people would shake my hand if I brought that up... I'd shake your hand. Way I see it, if you're still walkin' and talkin', there's nothin there that'll kill me, either.
Imardeavia
13-11-2004, 00:09
Not really. It's good advice, but kind of tricky to enforce. Sort of thing for parents to teach kids.

Mikorlias of Imardeavia