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Bob Dylan

Neo Alansyism
12-11-2004, 18:43
I love his music, and I was just wondering if anyone else did.
Arammanar
12-11-2004, 18:44
I like him well enough. Not my favorite, but definitely not bad.
The True Right
12-11-2004, 18:44
Nope, he can't sing either. I think Don Corleone could sing better then that overrated whack job.
Vittos Ordination
12-11-2004, 18:44
I love his music, and I was just wondering if anyone else did.

I'm a fanatic.

Although, I believe he was a christian, and would be very opposed to your fascist views.
Neo Alansyism
12-11-2004, 18:45
I'm a fanatic.

Although, I believe he was a christian, and would be very opposed to your fascist views.

He was a jew, than a christian, than a hesatic jew, and now he's a christian again. But don't think twice it's alright.
FutureExistence
12-11-2004, 18:45
I like some of his stuff.
And I think he was a Christian for a bit, dunno if he still considers himself as such.
Neo Alansyism
12-11-2004, 18:46
Hasn't anyone ever heard "Idiot Wind?" Dylan has a very angry, dark side to him.
Vittos Ordination
12-11-2004, 18:46
Nope, he can't sing either. I think Don Corleone could sing better then that overrated whack job.

Whaaaa? Overrated whack job? He revolutionized pop music. His lyrics have not been touched in nearly 40 years. And yeah he can't sing, that doesn't seem to stop anybody today.
Neo Alansyism
12-11-2004, 18:48
Whaaaa? Overrated whack job? He revolutionized pop music. His lyrics have not been touched in nearly 40 years. And yeah he can't sing, that doesn't seem to stop anybody today.

Hasn't anyone heard "Tonight I'll be staying here with you" Or "Lay Lady Lay", or "Jokerman?" Dylan can sing when he wants to.
Vittos Ordination
12-11-2004, 18:49
Hasn't anyone ever heard "Idiot Wind?" Dylan has a very angry, dark side to him.

He certainly did, that was a very angry song. But that was general exception to the rule.
Great Void
12-11-2004, 18:49
Yeah... saw this coming. I actually have something in common with Alansyist... Oh well.

Fanatic here too. But the fanaticism has calmed down a bit. Even stopped collecting his bootlegs when I hit the amount in which i can listen to 3 of his gigs per day for a full year. Maybe I'll pick it up again.
Vittos Ordination
12-11-2004, 18:50
Hasn't anyone heard "Tonight I'll be staying here with you" Or "Lay Lady Lay", or "Jokerman?" Dylan can sing when he wants to.

On Lay, Lady Lay he shows some range. But it still sounds like a cat being dragged behind a car.
Dobbs Town
12-11-2004, 18:52
Dude, the man can sing, don't forget his voice was never the same after that accident he had in the 70s...I'm trying to remember, I think it was a spill off his motorcycle...well, anyways,

There are far worse offenders than Bob - Leonard Cohen, Bill Shatner, Pat Boone...all of 'em have voices that could force a chicken to grow teeth, just to set 'em on edge...
Great Void
12-11-2004, 18:54
Hasn't anyone ever heard "Idiot Wind?" Dylan has a very angry, dark side to him.
Yea, but he was angry at his ex... not hostile towards the entire world. :)

EDIT: BOTT is his only themed record really. And what if his voice leaves something to be desired. It's 'unique'.
Neo Alansyism
12-11-2004, 18:55
Dylan's song Masters of War is brillant.

The electric guitar version in "Real Live," not the orginal
Neo Alansyism
12-11-2004, 18:56
Yea, but he was angry at his ex... not hostile towards the entire world. :)

No, by that time he was over Sara. Listen to the lyrics. He was angry with all of the lies and hypocrisies of humanity.
Neo Alansyism
12-11-2004, 19:05
I'm listening to Idiot Wind right now.

Oh it ended now I'm listening to "Lilly, Rosemarry, and the Jack of Hearts"
Great Void
12-11-2004, 19:07
No, by that time he was over Sara. Listen to the lyrics. He was angry with all of the lies and hypocrisies of humanity.
Oh sure. One can find what meanings one wants in those lyrics... much like all in his lyrics. It's just he himself has always said he was writing the relationship out of his chest. Who am I to say he is angry with the humanity. Now I could... but I think I don't want to contradict him.
Neo Alansyism
12-11-2004, 19:08
He was angry with Sara, but the first bits of the song was about the press. It eventually degenrates into bashing his ex.
Vittos Ordination
12-11-2004, 19:08
Alansyists, if you haven't heard of them, I would suggest Nick Drake, Iron and Wine, and Elliott Smith. Their lyrics are more introspective and less political but they are along the same singer-songwriter lines as Dylan.
Futurepeace
12-11-2004, 19:10
I like him well enough. I got to see him perfom at the Iowa State Fair a few years back...he looked like death, but it was a good show!
Neo Alansyism
12-11-2004, 19:10
Alansyists, if you haven't heard of them, I would suggest Nick Drake, Iron and Wine, and Elliott Smith. Their lyrics are more introspective and less political but they are along the same singer-songwriter lines as Dylan.

Never heard of any of them. My neighbor told me the last guy was gay. :)

Here's a site with all the Mighty Quin versions:

http://www.diamondgeezers.org.uk/sounds/eskimo.html
Dobbs Town
12-11-2004, 19:11
My SO and I have had a tradition for many, many years...our secret vice, watching the show 'COPS' on Saturday nights. There's a certain amount of Schadenfreude going on with this preoccupation, although we tell ourselves we're just researching police treatment in various US municipalities, figuring where we wouldn't want to find ourselves.

Anyway, this last season, they spent a great deal of time in Patterson, New Jersey, and a great deal of that time was spent in the company of one officer Frank Diamante, surely one of the single-least likeable police officers ever to grace the idiot box. Usually, I pay little attention the cops themselves, the emphasis being on the suspects and incidents, but Frankie-boy just got under my skin.

This guy assumes the absolute worst in people, hanging around the edges of various housing projects and pouncing on anybody heading in or out of what he terms 'drug areas'. He would have been perfectly suited to life under Mussolini or Franco - and now whenever his smug mug shows up onscreen, I'm off to channel surf.

So imagine my surprise late one night, listening to WinAmp with the headphones on, when the Dylan song 'Hurricane' came on, and I finally realized that Bob was singing about Patterson, New Jersey. Reuben Carter was framed by the Patterson cops and served time for crimes he never committed. Carter now lives outside of my hometown, Toronto.

What I found most disheartening was that Dylan's observation, 'in Patterson, that's just the way things go - if you're black, you might as well not show up on the street, unless you wanna draw the heat' is still as valid today as it was 25+ years ago. Way to go Passaic County PD!

The last time I saw officer Diamante's face show up onscreen, I made a point of whipping out my dick and wiping it all over his face. My SO was in stitches.
Great Void
12-11-2004, 19:11
I suggest you get the New York sessions of Blood OTT. It has alternative lyrics to all of the BOTT songs. Priceless!
Vittos Ordination
12-11-2004, 19:14
Never heard of any of them. My neighbor told me the last guy was gay. :)

Here's a site with all the Mighty Quin versions:

http://www.diamondgeezers.org.uk/sounds/eskimo.html

Elliott Smith did a great deal of that whiny Dashboard Confessional style stuff later in his career. He committed suicide a couple years back.

I would also recommend Sufjan Stevens, he has written an entire CD about Michigan entitled, Greetings from Michigan, the Great Lakes State. His most recent album is also a very good listen, but it is intensely spiritual.
Neo Alansyism
12-11-2004, 19:16
Elliott Smith did a great deal of that whiny Dashboard Confessional style stuff later in his career. He committed suicide a couple years back.

I would also recommend Sufjan Stevens, he has written an entire CD about Michigan entitled, Greetings from Michigan, the Great Lakes State. His most recent album is also a very good listen, but it is intensely spiritual.

I don't live in Michigan.

My dad moved to Florida a little while after reagan obliterated it's ecnomy.
Vittos Ordination
12-11-2004, 19:19
I don't live in Michigan.

My dad moved to Florida a little while after reagan obliterated it's ecnomy.

In that case, don't listen to it, it is utter rubbish.